GOP Obstructs Unemployment Benefits extension

[Harry Dresden]

Can a lib please tell me how long is TOO LONG for unemployment benefits to be handed out? Please give me a number of weeks that is TOO MUCH.

:crickets:

They have to find the money somewhere, you just can't let people starve and move out onto the streets. This is a jobless economy right now and until we get healthcare reform and start getting people back to work, they need assistance.

Too bad the Republicans have obstructed so much. Someone might take their input more seriously.

answer the guys question Sarah....how long should the benefits last?.....

 

[Care4all]

Extending unemployment benefits tend to keep people out of the work force since it leaves them free to be picky about the jobs they take. So actually the Republicans are doing the right thing here.
The Dems are of course playing politics with the issue, trying to demagogue it like they always do.

DUHHHHH YEAH!

UNEMPLOYMENT WAS CREATED FOR THAT PRECISE REASON....silly....that is the reason for unemployment, so that one DOES have the ability to find a job on the same level of expertise that they were at or have..........and NOT to have to take the 5 and dime store job.... jimminy christmas... rabb!!!!

sheesh, how old are you?

 

[Harry Dresden]

Any Senator can block a vote. Kyl did so on this bill.

how?
it takes 60 votes to end debate
the dems have 60 votes

I don't believe it was being debated but rather up for vote.

He objected to the vote, because he needed 'more time' to read the bill or some such nonsense. It's a procedural way to delay voting / passage.

Remember how Bachmann's sole objection delayed that resolution?

he needed time to read the bill...and that is nonsense?.....oh thats right Emma feels just pass it and be like ALL the other morons who dont read what they pass....and then you wonder why these guys have such a great approval rating.....

 

[Harry Dresden]

how?
it takes 60 votes to end debate
the dems have 60 votes

I don't believe it was being debated but rather up for vote.

He objected to the vote, because he needed 'more time' to read the bill or some such nonsense. It's a procedural way to delay voting / passage.

Remember how Bachmann's sole objection delayed that resolution?

They never seem to have enough time to read the bill. Ridiculous, I guess we need some Republican replacements who can find the time for their constituents.

as opposed to the Dems who have the time.....take your head out of your ass Sarah....

 

[Single Dad]

Can a lib please tell me how long is TOO LONG for unemployment benefits to be handed out? Please give me a number of weeks that is TOO MUCH.

:crickets:

Under normal circumstances, 26 weeks is enough... THESE are not normal circumstances...

During the Great Depression, right wing pea brains of that era chided FDR for trying to help fellow his Americans...he was roundly criticized for excessive spending by conservative members of Congress, who claimed that the economy would sort itself out "in the long run". Prompting Commerce Secretary Harry Hopkins to reply, "People don't eat in the long run, they eat every day."

Right wing solutions are FANTASTIC...if ONLY human beings would evaporate...

"Have you ever heard of a bleeding heart Republican?"
Paul Craig Roberts - the father of Reaganomics

"We have all made mistakes. But Dante tells us that divine justice weighs the sins of the cold-blooded and the sins of the warm-hearted on different scales. Better the occasional faults of a party living in the spirit of charity than the consistent omissions of a party frozen in the ice of its own indifference."
President John F. Kennedy

How many weeks is TOO LONG? Please answer.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Can a lib please tell me how long is TOO LONG for unemployment benefits to be handed out? Please give me a number of weeks that is TOO MUCH.

:crickets:

Gotta love these assholes. The people out of work now are not the chronically unemployed. They are the people that have worked hard for most of their lives and believed that the system was working for them. Now they know just how wrong they have been.

But you blame them for the situation created by the greed of the already very wealthy. Worked for you dumb bastards real well in the last Great Republican Depression, now, didn't it.

Can you please answer the question? How long would be TOO LONG for someone to receive unemployment benefits? At what point in time should the benefits be STOPPED AS EXCESSIVE? IS THERE ANY LIMIT in your mind?

your asking Fred Astair Dad.....he dont answer he dances around it.....and then he will say, he gave you an an answer....

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Can a lib please tell me how long is TOO LONG for unemployment benefits to be handed out? Please give me a number of weeks that is TOO MUCH.

:crickets:

Under normal circumstances, 26 weeks is enough... THESE are not normal circumstances...

During the Great Depression, right wing pea brains of that era chided FDR for trying to help fellow his Americans...he was roundly criticized for excessive spending by conservative members of Congress, who claimed that the economy would sort itself out "in the long run". Prompting Commerce Secretary Harry Hopkins to reply, "People don't eat in the long run, they eat every day."

Right wing solutions are FANTASTIC...if ONLY human beings would evaporate...

"Have you ever heard of a bleeding heart Republican?"
Paul Craig Roberts - the father of Reaganomics

"We have all made mistakes. But Dante tells us that divine justice weighs the sins of the cold-blooded and the sins of the warm-hearted on different scales. Better the occasional faults of a party living in the spirit of charity than the consistent omissions of a party frozen in the ice of its own indifference."
President John F. Kennedy

You may want to check your facts, During FDR's time, the Republicans were considered Liberals and the Democrats were considered conservatives.

BUT back to the point. The Senate has 60 Democratic votes and it only takes 51, the House has 265 democratic votes and it only takes 218. Remind us again how Republicans are blocking ANYTHING.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Democrats love the Unemployed so much they want every American to be one.

Dems looks back fondly at the Glory Days of FDR where unemployment averaged 17% for 8 whole years

hence....the post by Old Shithead....stay on Unemployment rather than take an actual job....

 

[Harry Dresden]

Can a lib please tell me how long is TOO LONG for unemployment benefits to be handed out? Please give me a number of weeks that is TOO MUCH.

:crickets:

Under normal circumstances, 26 weeks is enough... THESE are not normal circumstances...

During the Great Depression, right wing pea brains of that era chided FDR for trying to help fellow his Americans...he was roundly criticized for excessive spending by conservative members of Congress, who claimed that the economy would sort itself out "in the long run". Prompting Commerce Secretary Harry Hopkins to reply, "People don't eat in the long run, they eat every day."

Right wing solutions are FANTASTIC...if ONLY human beings would evaporate...

"Have you ever heard of a bleeding heart Republican?"
Paul Craig Roberts - the father of Reaganomics

"We have all made mistakes. But Dante tells us that divine justice weighs the sins of the cold-blooded and the sins of the warm-hearted on different scales. Better the occasional faults of a party living in the spirit of charity than the consistent omissions of a party frozen in the ice of its own indifference."
President John F. Kennedy

HOW LONG SHOULD IT BE?......30 wks....a year....2 yrs.....the rest of their lives.....answer the guys question....

 

[Harry Dresden]

DUHHHHH YEAH!

UNEMPLOYMENT WAS CREATED FOR THAT PRECISE REASON....silly....that is the reason for unemployment, so that one DOES have the ability to find a job on the same level of expertise that they were at or have..........and NOT to have to take the 5 and dime store job.... jimminy christmas... rabb!!!!

sheesh, how old are you?

answer the guys question Care.....how long should the Benefits last?.........

 

[Zoom-boing]

Can a lib please tell me how long is TOO LONG for unemployment benefits to be handed out? Please give me a number of weeks that is TOO MUCH.

:crickets:

Under normal circumstances, 26 weeks is enough... THESE are not normal circumstances...

During the Great Depression, right wing pea brains of that era chided FDR for trying to help fellow his Americans...he was roundly criticized for excessive spending by conservative members of Congress, who claimed that the economy would sort itself out "in the long run". Prompting Commerce Secretary Harry Hopkins to reply, "People don't eat in the long run, they eat every day."

Right wing solutions are FANTASTIC...if ONLY human beings would evaporate...

"Have you ever heard of a bleeding heart Republican?"
Paul Craig Roberts - the father of Reaganomics

"We have all made mistakes. But Dante tells us that divine justice weighs the sins of the cold-blooded and the sins of the warm-hearted on different scales. Better the occasional faults of a party living in the spirit of charity than the consistent omissions of a party frozen in the ice of its own indifference."
President John F. Kennedy

HOW LONG SHOULD IT BE?......30 wks....a year....2 yrs.....the rest of their lives.....answer the guys question....

Their answer is obvious: indefinitely. Cradle to grave.

 

[Bfgrn]

Can a lib please tell me how long is TOO LONG for unemployment benefits to be handed out? Please give me a number of weeks that is TOO MUCH.

:crickets:

Under normal circumstances, 26 weeks is enough... THESE are not normal circumstances...

During the Great Depression, right wing pea brains of that era chided FDR for trying to help fellow his Americans...he was roundly criticized for excessive spending by conservative members of Congress, who claimed that the economy would sort itself out "in the long run". Prompting Commerce Secretary Harry Hopkins to reply, "People don't eat in the long run, they eat every day."

Right wing solutions are FANTASTIC...if ONLY human beings would evaporate...

"Have you ever heard of a bleeding heart Republican?"
Paul Craig Roberts - the father of Reaganomics

"We have all made mistakes. But Dante tells us that divine justice weighs the sins of the cold-blooded and the sins of the warm-hearted on different scales. Better the occasional faults of a party living in the spirit of charity than the consistent omissions of a party frozen in the ice of its own indifference."
President John F. Kennedy

The 1920 Depression Ended In One Year When Government Did Nothing
Vincent Fernando|Oct. 12, 2009, 1:49 PM

In this fascinating speech, economist Thomas Woods explains why you've never heard of the Depression of 1920. Because it was over within a year, as the government let it run its course.

* The first year of the 1920 Depression was worse than that of 1929. Conditions were horrible.
* Yet due to President Woodrow Wilson's stroke near the end of his term, very little was done by the government to stop the economic decline.
* By the summer of 1921, recovery was on the way.
* It's too bad we're scared into thinking that economic downturns automatically require bold government action. History shows they don't necessarily require any.

The 1920 Depression Ended In One Year When Government Did Nothing

FDR was "Great" because he destroyed the US Economy so people would accept Socialism

Hey Frank, right wing PEA brain superficial knowledge of history only makes pea brains like you....well...pea brains. But disingenuous liars like Thomas Woods are dangerous ...

The Post-World War I Recession was caused mainly by a transition from a wartime economy to a peacetime economy. It was short-lived because the solutions were known, AND it took a SHORT time to implement them...Thomas Woods knows that, he's just not honest enough to put truth before right wing extremist ideology...

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A general deterioration of economic conditions in the United States was evident by the spring of 1920. Programs and procedures put in place during World War I had in many instances been removed or modified after the armistice, which resulted in a certain amount of economic dislocation.

In particular, U.S. manufacturers had built up large inventories of goods, but the consuming public was unable to absorb them. At the same time, American exports to overseas nations dropped sharply at war’s end, which deepened the plight of industry.

The results of the recession were high unemployment, a broad series of business bankruptcies and generally falling wages for those Americans who kept their jobs.

Most severe of all, however, was the protracted fall of farm prices — an event that would continue to a greater or lesser extent throughout the decade; when the 1920s later began to roar, few farmers joined in the prosperity. Their effort to gain relief was a frequent appeal during the era, but one that often fell on deaf ears in Washington.

Overall economic prospects improved for many during 1922, which is often cited as the beginning of the great boom. However, the return of prosperity would not go on uninterrupted, because several reverses hit sectors of the economy from time to time in the years before the great market crash of 1929.
Post-World War I Recession

Translation... TOTALLY different causes...


"There are people in the world so hungry that God cannot appear to them except in the form of bread."
Gandhi

 

[theHawk]

Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand

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Read more at: Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand: Republicans Must Stop Playing Politics With Unemployment Benefits

I read her entire blog, she in no way explains how or when Republicans blocked any bill.


But rather than do what is right, Republicans did what was politically convenient, twice blocking the extension in an effort to derail other economic recovery programs.

She doesn't even give us the bill's name. The rest of her blog is a sob story of her state (New York) losing so many jobs. Welcome to the Obama-nation Ms. Gillbrand!

How can Repubs block bills so easily when Dems hold majority in the House and Senate? I'd seriously like to know so we can block everything the Dems are trying.

 

[auditor0007]

Can a lib please tell me how long is TOO LONG for unemployment benefits to be handed out? Please give me a number of weeks that is TOO MUCH.

:crickets:

Gotta love these assholes. The people out of work now are not the chronically unemployed. They are the people that have worked hard for most of their lives and believed that the system was working for them. Now they know just how wrong they have been.

But you blame them for the situation created by the greed of the already very wealthy. Worked for you dumb bastards real well in the last Great Republican Depression, now, didn't it.

Can you please answer the question? How long would be TOO LONG for someone to receive unemployment benefits? At what point in time should the benefits be STOPPED AS EXCESSIVE? IS THERE ANY LIMIT in your mind?

In a normal economy, 26 weeks is too long in my opinion. However, in a depressed economy with negative growth, they should be extended until the economy at least shows some actual growth, therefore I can't put an actual time limit on it.

Remember, it is very rare that we have ever remained in a recession as long as this one. Some of you have this belief that everyone can find a job if they just try hard enough. However, that is not the case. Currently, there are over 15 million unemployed; there is nowhere near that number of jobs available. So where do you suggest these people go to find a job when it doesn't exist? Maybe they should go to Mexico?

Nearly six unemployed workers per available job

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Gotta love these assholes. The people out of work now are not the chronically unemployed. They are the people that have worked hard for most of their lives and believed that the system was working for them. Now they know just how wrong they have been.

But you blame them for the situation created by the greed of the already very wealthy. Worked for you dumb bastards real well in the last Great Republican Depression, now, didn't it.

Can you please answer the question? How long would be TOO LONG for someone to receive unemployment benefits? At what point in time should the benefits be STOPPED AS EXCESSIVE? IS THERE ANY LIMIT in your mind?

In a normal economy, 26 weeks is too long in my opinion. However, in a depressed economy with negative growth, they should be extended until the economy at least shows some actual growth, therefore I can't put an actual time limit on it.

Remember, it is very rare that we have ever remained in a recession as long as this one. Some of you have this belief that everyone can find a job if they just try hard enough. However, that is not the case. Currently, there are over 15 million unemployed; there is nowhere near that number of jobs available. So where do you suggest these people go to find a job when it doesn't exist? Maybe they should go to Mexico?

Nearly six unemployed workers per available job

It is not now, nor ever, the responsibility of the Federal Government to pay people not to work. NO MATTER the reason why they lost their job. READ the Constitution. Congress can only use our tax money to pay for those EXPRESSED powers in the Constitution.

 

[auditor0007]

Extending unemployment benefits tend to keep people out of the work force since it leaves them free to be picky about the jobs they take. So actually the Republicans are doing the right thing here.
The Dems are of course playing politics with the issue, trying to demagogue it like they always do.

You betcha, ol' Rabid. Them suckers should be taking minimum wage jobs so they can lose their homes even sooner.

The demagoguery here is done by people like you.

You think unemployment is going to pay a mortgage, car note, groceries, utility bills etc...?!?!? If so then you're as dumb as a box of old rocks.

No it won't, and that is exactly the point. These people aren't sitting on their asses collecting welfare. They are out looking for jobs because they can't support their families on unemployment, but it does help in most cases to keep them from becoming homeless. Your answer is to make them homeless?

There are 15 million unemployed and 3 million available jobs.

http://finance.senate.gov/press/Bpress/2009press/prb100809d.pdf

 

[Andrew2382]

Why should peopel go out and get a job when they can sit their ass at home and collect benefits for 15 months

 

[WillowTree]

Can a lib please tell me how long is TOO LONG for unemployment benefits to be handed out? Please give me a number of weeks that is TOO MUCH.

:crickets:

Under normal circumstances, 26 weeks is enough... THESE are not normal circumstances...

During the Great Depression, right wing pea brains of that era chided FDR for trying to help fellow his Americans...he was roundly criticized for excessive spending by conservative members of Congress, who claimed that the economy would sort itself out "in the long run". Prompting Commerce Secretary Harry Hopkins to reply, "People don't eat in the long run, they eat every day."

Right wing solutions are FANTASTIC...if ONLY human beings would evaporate...

"Have you ever heard of a bleeding heart Republican?"
Paul Craig Roberts - the father of Reaganomics

"We have all made mistakes. But Dante tells us that divine justice weighs the sins of the cold-blooded and the sins of the warm-hearted on different scales. Better the occasional faults of a party living in the spirit of charity than the consistent omissions of a party frozen in the ice of its own indifference."
President John F. Kennedy

You may want to check your facts, During FDR's time, the Republicans were considered Liberals and the Democrats were considered conservatives.

BUT back to the point. The Senate has 60 Democratic votes and it only takes 51, the House has 265 democratic votes and it only takes 218. Remind us again how Republicans are blocking ANYTHING.

Oh, and the truth shall set them free, except they don't want to be free, they gotta have republicans to piss and bitch and whine about donchyaknow?

 

[auditor0007]

Why should peopel go out and get a job when they can sit their ass at home and collect benefits for 15 months

So they can afford to pay their bills and put food on the table and keep a roof over their head? How much do you think the unemployed receive from unemployment? A king's ransom?

When 10,000 people apply for 90 available jobs, this ought ot tell you something about the psyche of the unemployed, but obviously you truly believe that the majority of the unemployed are just lazy fucks who want to live off you the dole.

Ten thousand unemployed apply for 90 jobs in Louisville, Kentucky

 

[The Rabbi]

Extending unemployment benefits tend to keep people out of the work force since it leaves them free to be picky about the jobs they take. So actually the Republicans are doing the right thing here.
The Dems are of course playing politics with the issue, trying to demagogue it like they always do.

DUHHHHH YEAH!

UNEMPLOYMENT WAS CREATED FOR THAT PRECISE REASON....silly....that is the reason for unemployment, so that one DOES have the ability to find a job on the same level of expertise that they were at or have..........and NOT to have to take the 5 and dime store job.... jimminy christmas... rabb!!!!

sheesh, how old are you?

So the rest of us who are working should pay for people to sit around and wait for the perfect job to come around to them?
Hello? Why not just support them in the style they've become accustomed to.
It isn't gov'ts role to make working comfortable for people. Nor to substitute for prudence and planning. Anyone who didnt save money while he was working in case of a layoff is an idiot. If they failed to plan adequately, why is it suddenly my responsibility?
They didnt have savings and got laid off? Sucks to be you. They didn't spend time honing job skills so they would be more employable? Sucks to be you.

You need to go spend time with some immigrants from E.Europe or Afghanistan or the middle east or Asia. Those people will work even menial jobs all the time to make ends meet. They don't sit around waiting for the gov't to help them because in their countries gov't is there to take, not give. I've known people who had day jobs, night jobs and weekend jobs. Yeah, it's tough. So what? Life is tough.

Consider what someone told me: a guy with a pickup truck will never be unemployed. He can haul junk away for people. In the summer he can mow lawns. Some of that junk can be resold at flea markets on the weekends. No one will get rich doing that, but they wont starve either. And they damn sure won't have to rely on the gov't.