GOP fought against Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid. But GOP policies started the "great debt".

[NYcarbineer]

I already did it. I am very happy that SS now pays ALL of my necessities, leaving me with my TWO pensions from WORK (you've heard of that right?) to spend on anything I want.

That's great, seriously.
You have it how you like why not let others have it in the way they like??

I want nothing from the government retirement and healthcare wise...
But I am forced into horse shit entitlement programs...

Move to a country with a dictator you agree with then.

I have had enough of dictators... Barry is plenty

Then accept that your beliefs aren't widely supported enough to become law.

I'm used to paying for services and things that will help no one, least of all me and my family. Shit happens
That is what happens in a socialist banana republic...
Lol

Do you want to make all taxes voluntary?

 

[Wildman]

Any Republican who gets Social Security should be ashamed.

glad to be an INDEPENDENT!!

 

[Rustic]

That's great, seriously.
You have it how you like why not let others have it in the way they like??

I want nothing from the government retirement and healthcare wise...
But I am forced into horse shit entitlement programs...

Move to a country with a dictator you agree with then.

I have had enough of dictators... Barry is plenty

Then accept that your beliefs aren't widely supported enough to become law.

I'm used to paying for services and things that will help no one, least of all me and my family. Shit happens
That is what happens in a socialist banana republic...
Lol

Do you want to make all taxes voluntary?

Income taxes are unconstitutional, only put in place because of the tax, spend and print policy's of career politicians and their federal government. Then they saw the opportunity in the years after the Second World War to put in the false security of socialist entitlement programs, knowing it was impossible pay for without total government control of its citizens... And it's been all down hill from there.

 

[Claudette]

Where is the link to anything that supports any part of your BS as fact?

You do know the President responsible for Social Security OPPOSED the long-term existence of the program because, as he warned, of the potential for it to become corrupted and turned into a huge Ponzi scheme, right?! And he was right...

Social Security is not a Ponzi scheme. Your brain is a Ponzi scheme.

What do you call a program that uses other peoples money when yours runs out??


Both SS and Medicare would have been gone long ago if the people paying into it could only take out EXACTLY what they put into the programs.

As it stand now. Once they use their money they use the money of those coming behind them.

 

[BlindBoo]

Income taxes are unconstitutional,

Until 1913.

"The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several states, and without regard to any census or enumeration."

 

[rdean]

Is this another liberal whine thread where they try to pretend they have not been in charge for the last 7 years?

If Democrats have been in control for the last 7 years, why do RWnuts boast about taking over in the 2010 elections and furthering their gains in 2014?

The successes under Obama are because of the GOP.

The failures under Bush are because of the Democrats. Even though Republicans were able to use reconciliation three fucking times. Which means the Democrats were powerless. But it was still the fault of Democrats.

GOP logic.

 

[rdean]

Where is the link to anything that supports any part of your BS as fact?

You do know the President responsible for Social Security OPPOSED the long-term existence of the program because, as he warned, of the potential for it to become corrupted and turned into a huge Ponzi scheme, right?! And he was right...

Social Security is not a Ponzi scheme. Your brain is a Ponzi scheme.

What do you call a program that uses other peoples money when yours runs out??


Both SS and Medicare would have been gone long ago if the people paying into it could only take out EXACTLY what they put into the programs.

As it stand now. Once they use their money they use the money of those coming behind them.

The most successful anti poverty program in world history.

Could you imagine how awful this country would be if we actually lived like "every man for himself", the way Republicans want? Probably why Red States are such a mess. 150 years of conservative economic policy and each one is a basket case.

 

[Claudette]

The most successful anti poverty program in history??

Are you deluded. There is more poverty now then when Johnson first instituted his war on poverty.

You. Are. A. Fool.

 

[easyt65]

...the way Republicans want?

You're just like every other dumbass dime-a-dozen Liberals who make stupid partisan comments like this, trying to speak FOR Republicans out of hate, when you don't know what the hell youre talking about. It's not true, you know it, but it sure sounds good when you're trying to pain the opposition as 'the bad guy'.

You have no credibility, especially when you falsely try to tell everyone what someone else thinks / believes / wants.

 

[Arizona Willie]

GOP fought tooth and nail against Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid. Social Security - the greatest anti poverty program in the history of the world.

Republicans said these programs will bankrupt the United States. That was their reason. The GOP insists they were fighting for fiscal sanity against the "tax and spend" Democrats.

Isn't it ironic that it was the Bush Tax Cuts that took us down the road to unsustainable deficits? First trillions in tax cuts that did not create jobs. Then the GOP helping business move millions of jobs overseas which led to the closings of tens of thousands of factories costing this country trillions more in revenue.

Then the fiscally sane GOP cut taxes by trillions while waging two wars costing even more trillions.

And they are so ashamed, they blame it on Obama. They aren't even man enough to stand up for what they did. This is why they have to be defeated. Who could vote for a party that is so wrong again and again. Any Republican who gets Social Security should be ashamed.

============

The Republican Party is the party of DEADBEATS.

They refuse to pay any taxes to pay the bills for the things they do.

Bush the Lesser came into office with a Surplus and blew all of it plus trillions more on his wars and the Republicans refuse to pay any taxes to pay for those wars.

During Vietnam we had an Income Tax Surcharge to pay for that war and we came out of it with almost no debt and it was quickly paid off.

But Republi-cants refuse to pay for ANYTHING.

But they love to preach " fiscal responsibility " to the poor and scream at them " get a job and pay your bills " all while they refuse to pay their own.

 

[easyt65]

The Republican Party is the party of DEADBEATS.

They refuse to pay any taxes to pay the bills for the things they do.

Bush the Lesser came into office with a Surplus and blew all of it plus trillions more on his wars and the Republicans refuse to pay any taxes to pay for those wars.

During Vietnam we had an Income Tax Surcharge to pay for that war and we came out of it with almost no debt and it was quickly paid off.

But Republi-cants refuse to pay for ANYTHING.

But they love to preach " fiscal responsibility " to the poor and scream at them " get a job and pay your bills " all while they refuse to pay their own.

Oh WHERE to start with this PATHETIC, opinionated, FACTLESS post....

1. 'GOP = party of deadbeats'
- LINK?
- Liberals who maintain their power by handing out tax payer funded social program benefits to those they have helped to become dependent on the government / liberals for their very survival.


2. 'They (the GOP) refuse to pay any taxes.'
- Obama promised the 'smoothest transition into office evuh'...but that transition was delayed for a while as he tried to find any Democrats on his 'Cabinet Hire' list who had paid their taxes. Most of them were tax dodging deadbeats who had NOT paid their taxes...to include, hypocritically/ironically/humorously, his selection for Secretary of the TREASURY - lil' Timmy 'Tax Cheat' Geithner.
- Charlie 'Tax Cheat' Rangel: This liberal turd sits on the committee that writes tax law, but he has been caught NUMEROUS TIMES NOT paying his taxes, trying to HIDE money, not reporting money, etc. Tax Fraud, Tax evasion...and not one criminal charge filed against him (like we would have done to us). This criminal never even had to pay a fine or pay back interest on the money he owed.
- 'Reverend' Al 'Pass the Plate' Sharpton - Without racism existing in the world this 'Carnival Barker' would have to get a REAL job. Fortunately for him 'racism' is a good business - REALLY good, as evident from the amount of money he owed in taxes but never did...until he was finally caught and FORCED to pay up.

Then you have POS like Harry Reid who - after the last Presidential election - was FINALLY confronted by the media over his abuse of power and lying during his attack on a U.S. Citizen form the floor of the U.S. Senate. Harry admitted using his power and his position as Senate Majority Leader to attack Romney - falsely - from the floor of the Senate and that his accusations against Romney were knowingly FALSE. When asked WHY he would do such a thing he replied, :IT WORKED DIDN'T IT?!'

I can add you to the number of growing libs on this board who have zero credibility. Just because you don't like Republicans and have an opinion you believe that is enough to spew that opinion like it's fact. It's not.

 

[rdean]

The most successful anti poverty program in history??

Are you deluded. There is more poverty now then when Johnson first instituted his war on poverty.

You. Are. A. Fool.

There are more people now.

 

[rdean]

The Republican Party is the party of DEADBEATS.

They refuse to pay any taxes to pay the bills for the things they do.

Bush the Lesser came into office with a Surplus and blew all of it plus trillions more on his wars and the Republicans refuse to pay any taxes to pay for those wars.

During Vietnam we had an Income Tax Surcharge to pay for that war and we came out of it with almost no debt and it was quickly paid off.

But Republi-cants refuse to pay for ANYTHING.

But they love to preach " fiscal responsibility " to the poor and scream at them " get a job and pay your bills " all while they refuse to pay their own.

Oh WHERE to start with this PATHETIC, opinionated, FACTLESS post....

1. 'GOP = party of deadbeats'
- LINK?
- Liberals who maintain their power by handing out tax payer funded social program benefits to those they have helped to become dependent on the government / liberals for their very survival.


2. 'They (the GOP) refuse to pay any taxes.'
- Obama promised the 'smoothest transition into office evuh'...but that transition was delayed for a while as he tried to find any Democrats on his 'Cabinet Hire' list who had paid their taxes. Most of them were tax dodging deadbeats who had NOT paid their taxes...to include, hypocritically/ironically/humorously, his selection for Secretary of the TREASURY - lil' Timmy 'Tax Cheat' Geithner.
- Charlie 'Tax Cheat' Rangel: This liberal turd sits on the committee that writes tax law, but he has been caught NUMEROUS TIMES NOT paying his taxes, trying to HIDE money, not reporting money, etc. Tax Fraud, Tax evasion...and not one criminal charge filed against him (like we would have done to us). This criminal never even had to pay a fine or pay back interest on the money he owed.
- 'Reverend' Al 'Pass the Plate' Sharpton - Without racism existing in the world this 'Carnival Barker' would have to get a REAL job. Fortunately for him 'racism' is a good business - REALLY good, as evident from the amount of money he owed in taxes but never did...until he was finally caught and FORCED to pay up.

Then you have POS like Harry Reid who - after the last Presidential election - was FINALLY confronted by the media over his abuse of power and lying during his attack on a U.S. Citizen form the floor of the U.S. Senate. Harry admitted using his power and his position as Senate Majority Leader to attack Romney - falsely - from the floor of the Senate and that his accusations against Romney were knowingly FALSE. When asked WHY he would do such a thing he replied, :IT WORKED DIDN'T IT?!'

I can add you to the number of growing libs on this board who have zero credibility. Just because you don't like Republicans and have an opinion you believe that is enough to spew that opinion like it's fact. It's not.

Two unpaid for wars. The GOP/Bush legacy. Do you really need a link for that? Really?

 

[Arizona Willie]

The Republican Party is the party of DEADBEATS.

They refuse to pay any taxes to pay the bills for the things they do.

Bush the Lesser came into office with a Surplus and blew all of it plus trillions more on his wars and the Republicans refuse to pay any taxes to pay for those wars.

During Vietnam we had an Income Tax Surcharge to pay for that war and we came out of it with almost no debt and it was quickly paid off.

But Republi-cants refuse to pay for ANYTHING.

But they love to preach " fiscal responsibility " to the poor and scream at them " get a job and pay your bills " all while they refuse to pay their own.

Oh WHERE to start with this PATHETIC, opinionated, FACTLESS post....

1. 'GOP = party of deadbeats'
- LINK?
- Liberals who maintain their power by handing out tax payer funded social program benefits to those they have helped to become dependent on the government / liberals for their very survival.


2. 'They (the GOP) refuse to pay any taxes.'
- Obama promised the 'smoothest transition into office evuh'...but that transition was delayed for a while as he tried to find any Democrats on his 'Cabinet Hire' list who had paid their taxes. Most of them were tax dodging deadbeats who had NOT paid their taxes...to include, hypocritically/ironically/humorously, his selection for Secretary of the TREASURY - lil' Timmy 'Tax Cheat' Geithner.
- Charlie 'Tax Cheat' Rangel: This liberal turd sits on the committee that writes tax law, but he has been caught NUMEROUS TIMES NOT paying his taxes, trying to HIDE money, not reporting money, etc. Tax Fraud, Tax evasion...and not one criminal charge filed against him (like we would have done to us). This criminal never even had to pay a fine or pay back interest on the money he owed.
- 'Reverend' Al 'Pass the Plate' Sharpton - Without racism existing in the world this 'Carnival Barker' would have to get a REAL job. Fortunately for him 'racism' is a good business - REALLY good, as evident from the amount of money he owed in taxes but never did...until he was finally caught and FORCED to pay up.

Then you have POS like Harry Reid who - after the last Presidential election - was FINALLY confronted by the media over his abuse of power and lying during his attack on a U.S. Citizen form the floor of the U.S. Senate. Harry admitted using his power and his position as Senate Majority Leader to attack Romney - falsely - from the floor of the Senate and that his accusations against Romney were knowingly FALSE. When asked WHY he would do such a thing he replied, :IT WORKED DIDN'T IT?!'

I can add you to the number of growing libs on this board who have zero credibility. Just because you don't like Republicans and have an opinion you believe that is enough to spew that opinion like it's fact. It's not.

Two unpaid for wars. The GOP/Bush legacy. Do you really need a link for that? Really?

========
Not one word of Easy's rant refuted my claim that Republi-cants refuse to pay any taxes to pay the bills for the things they do.

Not one word.

He just went into a spastic rage over being FACED WITH THE TRUTH.

 

[Claudette]

The most successful anti poverty program in history??

Are you deluded. There is more poverty now then when Johnson first instituted his war on poverty.

You. Are. A. Fool.

There are more people now.

Bullshit. The war on poverty cost billions and there is as many poor people today as there were then.

The war on poverty was a monumental failure brought to you by the Dems. LBJ. All it taught the poor was that the Govt., i.e. the taxpayers of America, would get hosed to bankroll their lives for them.

A monumental failure. Big. Deep. And Wide.

 

[9aces]

The Republican Party is the party of DEADBEATS.

They refuse to pay any taxes to pay the bills for the things they do.

Bush the Lesser came into office with a Surplus and blew all of it plus trillions more on his wars and the Republicans refuse to pay any taxes to pay for those wars.

During Vietnam we had an Income Tax Surcharge to pay for that war and we came out of it with almost no debt and it was quickly paid off.

But Republi-cants refuse to pay for ANYTHING.

But they love to preach " fiscal responsibility " to the poor and scream at them " get a job and pay your bills " all while they refuse to pay their own.

Oh WHERE to start with this PATHETIC, opinionated, FACTLESS post....

1. 'GOP = party of deadbeats'
- LINK?
- Liberals who maintain their power by handing out tax payer funded social program benefits to those they have helped to become dependent on the government / liberals for their very survival.


2. 'They (the GOP) refuse to pay any taxes.'
- Obama promised the 'smoothest transition into office evuh'...but that transition was delayed for a while as he tried to find any Democrats on his 'Cabinet Hire' list who had paid their taxes. Most of them were tax dodging deadbeats who had NOT paid their taxes...to include, hypocritically/ironically/humorously, his selection for Secretary of the TREASURY - lil' Timmy 'Tax Cheat' Geithner.
- Charlie 'Tax Cheat' Rangel: This liberal turd sits on the committee that writes tax law, but he has been caught NUMEROUS TIMES NOT paying his taxes, trying to HIDE money, not reporting money, etc. Tax Fraud, Tax evasion...and not one criminal charge filed against him (like we would have done to us). This criminal never even had to pay a fine or pay back interest on the money he owed.
- 'Reverend' Al 'Pass the Plate' Sharpton - Without racism existing in the world this 'Carnival Barker' would have to get a REAL job. Fortunately for him 'racism' is a good business - REALLY good, as evident from the amount of money he owed in taxes but never did...until he was finally caught and FORCED to pay up.

Then you have POS like Harry Reid who - after the last Presidential election - was FINALLY confronted by the media over his abuse of power and lying during his attack on a U.S. Citizen form the floor of the U.S. Senate. Harry admitted using his power and his position as Senate Majority Leader to attack Romney - falsely - from the floor of the Senate and that his accusations against Romney were knowingly FALSE. When asked WHY he would do such a thing he replied, :IT WORKED DIDN'T IT?!'

I can add you to the number of growing libs on this board who have zero credibility. Just because you don't like Republicans and have an opinion you believe that is enough to spew that opinion like it's fact. It's not.

Two unpaid for wars. The GOP/Bush legacy. Do you really need a link for that? Really?

========
Not one word of Easy's rant refuted my claim that Republi-cants refuse to pay any taxes to pay the bills for the things they do.

Not one word.

He just went into a spastic rage over being FACED WITH THE TRUTH.

Neither Republicans, nor Democrats have paid for the things they've done, with very few exceptions since the 1930's. Not at all since 1957.

That's the truth.

 

[regent]

FDR warned of that massive dependency as well. It is one reason he said SS should never be alliwed to be a long-term program. Liberals learned, however, that dependency = votes / power...for them.

FDR's Social Security program was designed to last and FDR even thought he had fixed it so that Republican could not change it or drop it. Bush made comments about privatizing SS but dropped them quickly when he saw the handwriting.

 

[9aces]

FDR warned of that massive dependency as well. It is one reason he said SS should never be alliwed to be a long-term program. Liberals learned, however, that dependency = votes / power...for them.

FDR's Social Security program was designed to last and FDR even thought he had fixed it so that Republican could not change it or drop it. Bush made comments about privatizing SS but dropped them quickly when he saw the handwriting.

Social Security has never been designed to last. See the numerous changes to "try to save it".

No, it won't be changed because it's political suicide for anyone who tries. But when it fails....what then? And fail it surely will on the path it's on.

 

[Arizona Willie]

The Republican Party is the party of DEADBEATS.

They refuse to pay any taxes to pay the bills for the things they do.

Bush the Lesser came into office with a Surplus and blew all of it plus trillions more on his wars and the Republicans refuse to pay any taxes to pay for those wars.

During Vietnam we had an Income Tax Surcharge to pay for that war and we came out of it with almost no debt and it was quickly paid off.

But Republi-cants refuse to pay for ANYTHING.

But they love to preach " fiscal responsibility " to the poor and scream at them " get a job and pay your bills " all while they refuse to pay their own.

Oh WHERE to start with this PATHETIC, opinionated, FACTLESS post....

1. 'GOP = party of deadbeats'
- LINK?
- Liberals who maintain their power by handing out tax payer funded social program benefits to those they have helped to become dependent on the government / liberals for their very survival.


2. 'They (the GOP) refuse to pay any taxes.'
- Obama promised the 'smoothest transition into office evuh'...but that transition was delayed for a while as he tried to find any Democrats on his 'Cabinet Hire' list who had paid their taxes. Most of them were tax dodging deadbeats who had NOT paid their taxes...to include, hypocritically/ironically/humorously, his selection for Secretary of the TREASURY - lil' Timmy 'Tax Cheat' Geithner.
- Charlie 'Tax Cheat' Rangel: This liberal turd sits on the committee that writes tax law, but he has been caught NUMEROUS TIMES NOT paying his taxes, trying to HIDE money, not reporting money, etc. Tax Fraud, Tax evasion...and not one criminal charge filed against him (like we would have done to us). This criminal never even had to pay a fine or pay back interest on the money he owed.
- 'Reverend' Al 'Pass the Plate' Sharpton - Without racism existing in the world this 'Carnival Barker' would have to get a REAL job. Fortunately for him 'racism' is a good business - REALLY good, as evident from the amount of money he owed in taxes but never did...until he was finally caught and FORCED to pay up.

Then you have POS like Harry Reid who - after the last Presidential election - was FINALLY confronted by the media over his abuse of power and lying during his attack on a U.S. Citizen form the floor of the U.S. Senate. Harry admitted using his power and his position as Senate Majority Leader to attack Romney - falsely - from the floor of the Senate and that his accusations against Romney were knowingly FALSE. When asked WHY he would do such a thing he replied, :IT WORKED DIDN'T IT?!'

I can add you to the number of growing libs on this board who have zero credibility. Just because you don't like Republicans and have an opinion you believe that is enough to spew that opinion like it's fact. It's not.

Two unpaid for wars. The GOP/Bush legacy. Do you really need a link for that? Really?

========
Not one word of Easy's rant refuted my claim that Republi-cants refuse to pay any taxes to pay the bills for the things they do.

Not one word.

He just went into a spastic rage over being FACED WITH THE TRUTH.

Neither Republicans, nor Democrats have paid for the things they've done, with very few exceptions since the 1930's. Not at all since 1957.

That's the truth.

========
No sir THAT IS A LIE.

We had an Income Tax Surcharge to pay for the Vietnam War.

 

[rdean]

The Republican Party is the party of DEADBEATS.

They refuse to pay any taxes to pay the bills for the things they do.

Bush the Lesser came into office with a Surplus and blew all of it plus trillions more on his wars and the Republicans refuse to pay any taxes to pay for those wars.

During Vietnam we had an Income Tax Surcharge to pay for that war and we came out of it with almost no debt and it was quickly paid off.

But Republi-cants refuse to pay for ANYTHING.

But they love to preach " fiscal responsibility " to the poor and scream at them " get a job and pay your bills " all while they refuse to pay their own.

Oh WHERE to start with this PATHETIC, opinionated, FACTLESS post....

1. 'GOP = party of deadbeats'
- LINK?
- Liberals who maintain their power by handing out tax payer funded social program benefits to those they have helped to become dependent on the government / liberals for their very survival.


2. 'They (the GOP) refuse to pay any taxes.'
- Obama promised the 'smoothest transition into office evuh'...but that transition was delayed for a while as he tried to find any Democrats on his 'Cabinet Hire' list who had paid their taxes. Most of them were tax dodging deadbeats who had NOT paid their taxes...to include, hypocritically/ironically/humorously, his selection for Secretary of the TREASURY - lil' Timmy 'Tax Cheat' Geithner.
- Charlie 'Tax Cheat' Rangel: This liberal turd sits on the committee that writes tax law, but he has been caught NUMEROUS TIMES NOT paying his taxes, trying to HIDE money, not reporting money, etc. Tax Fraud, Tax evasion...and not one criminal charge filed against him (like we would have done to us). This criminal never even had to pay a fine or pay back interest on the money he owed.
- 'Reverend' Al 'Pass the Plate' Sharpton - Without racism existing in the world this 'Carnival Barker' would have to get a REAL job. Fortunately for him 'racism' is a good business - REALLY good, as evident from the amount of money he owed in taxes but never did...until he was finally caught and FORCED to pay up.

Then you have POS like Harry Reid who - after the last Presidential election - was FINALLY confronted by the media over his abuse of power and lying during his attack on a U.S. Citizen form the floor of the U.S. Senate. Harry admitted using his power and his position as Senate Majority Leader to attack Romney - falsely - from the floor of the Senate and that his accusations against Romney were knowingly FALSE. When asked WHY he would do such a thing he replied, :IT WORKED DIDN'T IT?!'

I can add you to the number of growing libs on this board who have zero credibility. Just because you don't like Republicans and have an opinion you believe that is enough to spew that opinion like it's fact. It's not.

Two unpaid for wars. The GOP/Bush legacy. Do you really need a link for that? Really?

========
Not one word of Easy's rant refuted my claim that Republi-cants refuse to pay any taxes to pay the bills for the things they do.

Not one word.

He just went into a spastic rage over being FACED WITH THE TRUTH.

They do that when faced with truth. Not sure why.