Google Wants To Help More Homes Switch To Solar Energy

[martybegan]

There is no safe storage for nuclear waste.

Solar works, is affordable and clean.

Doesn't seem like a difficult decision.

Actually encasing it in concrete in a secure facility is more than safe.

That's why so many states want to store nuclear waste. You must be joking.

NIMBY and BANANA, nothing more.

People also don't want things like wastewater plants, or garbage transfer stations near them, but they still want their sewage treated and their garbage picked up.

Do those things remain dangerous for millions of years?

You're assuming technology won't advance in the future? Also you should know the cheaper production light water methods have more waste than the better reusable type.

Hopefully they figure out fusion in the next 100 years or so. But I'm sure the something from nothing crowd will find something wrong with that process as well.

 

[Iceweasel]

Hopefully they figure out fusion in the next 100 years or so. But I'm sure the something from nothing crowd will find something wrong with that process as well.

They can't think past the electrical cord plugins for their Leaf.

 

[Brain357]

There is no safe storage for nuclear waste.

Solar works, is affordable and clean.

Doesn't seem like a difficult decision.

Actually encasing it in concrete in a secure facility is more than safe.

That's why so many states want to store nuclear waste. You must be joking.

NIMBY and BANANA, nothing more.

People also don't want things like wastewater plants, or garbage transfer stations near them, but they still want their sewage treated and their garbage picked up.

Do those things remain dangerous for millions of years?

What does it matter the duration if it is dangerous? If properly made and maintained the storage will last as long as we do.

I think it is wise to avoid making dangerous waste which lasts millions of years.

 

[martybegan]

Actually encasing it in concrete in a secure facility is more than safe.

That's why so many states want to store nuclear waste. You must be joking.

NIMBY and BANANA, nothing more.

People also don't want things like wastewater plants, or garbage transfer stations near them, but they still want their sewage treated and their garbage picked up.

Do those things remain dangerous for millions of years?

What does it matter the duration if it is dangerous? If properly made and maintained the storage will last as long as we do.

I think it is wise to avoid making dangerous waste which lasts millions of years.

I think it's wise to remember about the concepts of base load, and that solar and wind cannot meet them without some way to store energy on a macro scale.

If not nuclear, then its back to oil/gas/coal.

One produces waste that is dangerous for a long time, but with a smaller footprint, and known methods of control. The other spreads its waste into the atmosphere, and according to your "side" is bad bad bad bad bad bad.

 

[Brain357]

That's why so many states want to store nuclear waste. You must be joking.

NIMBY and BANANA, nothing more.

People also don't want things like wastewater plants, or garbage transfer stations near them, but they still want their sewage treated and their garbage picked up.

Do those things remain dangerous for millions of years?

What does it matter the duration if it is dangerous? If properly made and maintained the storage will last as long as we do.

I think it is wise to avoid making dangerous waste which lasts millions of years.

I think it's wise to remember about the concepts of base load, and that solar and wind cannot meet them without some way to store energy on a macro scale.

If not nuclear, then its back to oil/gas/coal.

One produces waste that is dangerous for a long time, but with a smaller footprint, and known methods of control. The other spreads its waste into the atmosphere, and according to your "side" is bad bad bad bad bad bad.

Energy storage will catch up. Advances are made all the time.

 

[martybegan]

NIMBY and BANANA, nothing more.

People also don't want things like wastewater plants, or garbage transfer stations near them, but they still want their sewage treated and their garbage picked up.

Do those things remain dangerous for millions of years?

What does it matter the duration if it is dangerous? If properly made and maintained the storage will last as long as we do.

I think it is wise to avoid making dangerous waste which lasts millions of years.

I think it's wise to remember about the concepts of base load, and that solar and wind cannot meet them without some way to store energy on a macro scale.

If not nuclear, then its back to oil/gas/coal.

One produces waste that is dangerous for a long time, but with a smaller footprint, and known methods of control. The other spreads its waste into the atmosphere, and according to your "side" is bad bad bad bad bad bad.

Energy storage will catch up. Advances are made all the time.

Not on the scale of saving power for a city. For that you need physical storage, and the sizes involved are daunting. You can't run a city on a battery.

 

[Brain357]

Do those things remain dangerous for millions of years?

What does it matter the duration if it is dangerous? If properly made and maintained the storage will last as long as we do.

I think it is wise to avoid making dangerous waste which lasts millions of years.

I think it's wise to remember about the concepts of base load, and that solar and wind cannot meet them without some way to store energy on a macro scale.

If not nuclear, then its back to oil/gas/coal.

One produces waste that is dangerous for a long time, but with a smaller footprint, and known methods of control. The other spreads its waste into the atmosphere, and according to your "side" is bad bad bad bad bad bad.

Energy storage will catch up. Advances are made all the time.

Not on the scale of saving power for a city. For that you need physical storage, and the sizes involved are daunting. You can't run a city on a battery.

Yes you will be able to. Germany seems to be figuring it out.

 

[martybegan]

What does it matter the duration if it is dangerous? If properly made and maintained the storage will last as long as we do.

I think it is wise to avoid making dangerous waste which lasts millions of years.

I think it's wise to remember about the concepts of base load, and that solar and wind cannot meet them without some way to store energy on a macro scale.

If not nuclear, then its back to oil/gas/coal.

One produces waste that is dangerous for a long time, but with a smaller footprint, and known methods of control. The other spreads its waste into the atmosphere, and according to your "side" is bad bad bad bad bad bad.

Energy storage will catch up. Advances are made all the time.

Not on the scale of saving power for a city. For that you need physical storage, and the sizes involved are daunting. You can't run a city on a battery.

Yes you will be able to. Germany seems to be figuring it out.

For one hour, and that counts hydro and biomass, both of which are the red headed stepchildren of the renewable movement.

It also happened in the middle of the day, so again, storage issues.

 

[Brain357]

I think it is wise to avoid making dangerous waste which lasts millions of years.

I think it's wise to remember about the concepts of base load, and that solar and wind cannot meet them without some way to store energy on a macro scale.

If not nuclear, then its back to oil/gas/coal.

One produces waste that is dangerous for a long time, but with a smaller footprint, and known methods of control. The other spreads its waste into the atmosphere, and according to your "side" is bad bad bad bad bad bad.

Energy storage will catch up. Advances are made all the time.

Not on the scale of saving power for a city. For that you need physical storage, and the sizes involved are daunting. You can't run a city on a battery.

Yes you will be able to. Germany seems to be figuring it out.

For one hour, and that counts hydro and biomass, both of which are the red headed stepchildren of the renewable movement.

It also happened in the middle of the day, so again, storage issues.

Storage will catch up.

 

[martybegan]

I think it's wise to remember about the concepts of base load, and that solar and wind cannot meet them without some way to store energy on a macro scale.

If not nuclear, then its back to oil/gas/coal.

One produces waste that is dangerous for a long time, but with a smaller footprint, and known methods of control. The other spreads its waste into the atmosphere, and according to your "side" is bad bad bad bad bad bad.

Energy storage will catch up. Advances are made all the time.

Not on the scale of saving power for a city. For that you need physical storage, and the sizes involved are daunting. You can't run a city on a battery.

Yes you will be able to. Germany seems to be figuring it out.

For one hour, and that counts hydro and biomass, both of which are the red headed stepchildren of the renewable movement.

It also happened in the middle of the day, so again, storage issues.

Storage will catch up.

What type of storage?

 

[Brain357]

Energy storage will catch up. Advances are made all the time.

Not on the scale of saving power for a city. For that you need physical storage, and the sizes involved are daunting. You can't run a city on a battery.

Yes you will be able to. Germany seems to be figuring it out.

For one hour, and that counts hydro and biomass, both of which are the red headed stepchildren of the renewable movement.

It also happened in the middle of the day, so again, storage issues.

Storage will catch up.

What type of storage?

Probably better batteries. Smaller will hold more and last longer. Batteries are always improving. Solar will push them to new level.

 

[martybegan]

Not on the scale of saving power for a city. For that you need physical storage, and the sizes involved are daunting. You can't run a city on a battery.

Yes you will be able to. Germany seems to be figuring it out.

For one hour, and that counts hydro and biomass, both of which are the red headed stepchildren of the renewable movement.

It also happened in the middle of the day, so again, storage issues.

Storage will catch up.

What type of storage?

Probably better batteries. Smaller will hold more and last longer. Batteries are always improving. Solar will push them to new level.

The physics involved in electricity from batteries preclude the type of storage needed at a macro scale. It's a question of energy density, and thus size.

I suggest you actually understand something before you start swearing by it.

 

[Brain357]

Yes you will be able to. Germany seems to be figuring it out.

For one hour, and that counts hydro and biomass, both of which are the red headed stepchildren of the renewable movement.

It also happened in the middle of the day, so again, storage issues.

Storage will catch up.

What type of storage?

Probably better batteries. Smaller will hold more and last longer. Batteries are always improving. Solar will push them to new level.

The physics involved in electricity from batteries preclude the type of storage needed at a macro scale. It's a question of energy density, and thus size.

I suggest you actually understand something before you start swearing by it.

I suggest you look at what germany is doing.

 

[martybegan]

For one hour, and that counts hydro and biomass, both of which are the red headed stepchildren of the renewable movement.

It also happened in the middle of the day, so again, storage issues.

Storage will catch up.

What type of storage?

Probably better batteries. Smaller will hold more and last longer. Batteries are always improving. Solar will push them to new level.

The physics involved in electricity from batteries preclude the type of storage needed at a macro scale. It's a question of energy density, and thus size.

I suggest you actually understand something before you start swearing by it.

I suggest you look at what germany is doing.

Germany got to 74% in the middle of the day without the need for storage, and with a base load system ready to take up the slack when needed.

I suggest you stop commenting on things you don't understand.

 

[Brain357]

Is there a way that this excess power is stored?

Yes, there is an energy storage technology that has the capability of storing this excess power. The power to gas technology basically converts the excess electricity into gaseous energy by producing a zero carbon hydrogen gas. This gas can then be converted into renewable methane and used as an energy source in future. German auto giant Audi was the first to use this technology by setting up the world’s first 6 MW- ‘power to gas’ plant in its home country.

http://oilprice.com/Alternative-Ene...Struggles-With-Too-Much-Renewable-Energy.html

 

[martybegan]

Is there a way that this excess power is stored?

Yes, there is an energy storage technology that has the capability of storing this excess power. The power to gas technology basically converts the excess electricity into gaseous energy by producing a zero carbon hydrogen gas. This gas can then be converted into renewable methane and used as an energy source in future. German auto giant Audi was the first to use this technology by setting up the world’s first 6 MW- ‘power to gas’ plant in its home country.

http://oilprice.com/Alternative-Ene...Struggles-With-Too-Much-Renewable-Energy.html

That isn't a battery.

 

[Brain357]

Is there a way that this excess power is stored?

Yes, there is an energy storage technology that has the capability of storing this excess power. The power to gas technology basically converts the excess electricity into gaseous energy by producing a zero carbon hydrogen gas. This gas can then be converted into renewable methane and used as an energy source in future. German auto giant Audi was the first to use this technology by setting up the world’s first 6 MW- ‘power to gas’ plant in its home country.

http://oilprice.com/Alternative-Ene...Struggles-With-Too-Much-Renewable-Energy.html

That isn't a battery.

It answers your question.

 

[martybegan]

Is there a way that this excess power is stored?

Yes, there is an energy storage technology that has the capability of storing this excess power. The power to gas technology basically converts the excess electricity into gaseous energy by producing a zero carbon hydrogen gas. This gas can then be converted into renewable methane and used as an energy source in future. German auto giant Audi was the first to use this technology by setting up the world’s first 6 MW- ‘power to gas’ plant in its home country.

http://oilprice.com/Alternative-Ene...Struggles-With-Too-Much-Renewable-Energy.html

That isn't a battery.

It answers your question.

it's another smaller scale solution, as you still need to store the hydrogen gas, the size of which for a small city is pretty damn big. To store it properly would require cryogenic storage, which sucks up even more energy.

 

[warf]

There is no safe storage for nuke waste. Yuca mountain, in Nevada has faults that make it liable to fail in an earth quake.

A storage area in Arkansas recently had a fire.

I know solar works because I live in an off-grid community that is 10 miles from the nearest power line. When the utility finally decided to run power to us nobody wanted it and the offer was rejected.

Solar is affordable while nuclear is the most expensive way to generate electricity.

 

[ClosedCaption]

Oh no this is terrible news!