Good thing Britain doesn't have the 2nd Amendment and banned guns.....these criminals would be getting shot all over the place.

[bodecea]

This isn't going to stop until brit politicians families start getting raped by these folk.

Looking forward to that?

 

[Blues Man]

I can read any book I want to, unlike in Republican controlled states where books are banned.

No you really can't just ask the kid who went to jail for reading a banned book in the UK

And banned books in the US usually only means that public schools won't have them in their libraries but they are readily available anywhere else. And no one will ever go to jail for reading a book in the US

 

[bodecea]

No books are banned in the U.S....we just try to keep books about children having sex out of our public schools and libraries....

You are right....because as soon as loony MAGAts list a book to be banned, it becomes very very popular to read. Banning books doesn't work.

 

[Blues Man]

Depends on the level of force you use, it's always been like that in most civilised countries.

Yeah better to let some home invader just do what he wants in the UK because if you give him a black eye you're going to jail for assault.

 

[2aguy]

No you really can't just ask the kid who went to jail for reading a banned book in the UK

And banned books in the US usually only means that public schools won't have them in their libraries but they are readily available anywhere else. And no one will ever go to jail for reading a book in the US

And it is the left wing democrats actually keeping normal literature like Mark Twain and To Kill a Mockingbird out of public schools while conservatives are trying to keep books about children performing oral sex on each other and adults raping children out of public schools and libraries...while the left wing democrats are pushing to have those books taught as part of the curriculum.....

 

[2aguy]

You are right....because as soon as loony MAGAts list a book to be banned, it becomes very very popular to read. Banning books doesn't work.

Not calling for any books to be banned, just to keep the books about children having sex, with each other and adults, the books you guys want as part of the school curiculum, out of schools and public libraries...

Why do you want those books, that show children having sex with each other and with adults, accessible to children? Do you want children reading about performing oral sex?

 

[Vagabond63]

Which is the your preferred outcome….the woman and her 14 year old daughter are both brutally raped, or they have a gun they can use to stop the rape? Whether they actually have to shoot the criminal or not?

My preferred outcome in this instance, is that the poor victim never opened the door in the first place, or invested in a door spy hole, or remote camera. Had she done so, this would never have occurred, but that's hindsight.
Whatever makes you think, in this instance, that the victim would ever have gotten the chance to get hold of her gun before she was overpowered?

 

[Blues Man]

My preferred outcome in this instance, is that the poor victim never opened the door in the first place, or invested in a door spy hole, or remote camera. Had she done so, this would never have occurred, but that's hindsight.
Whatever makes you think, in this instance, that the victim would ever have gotten the chance to get hold of her gun before she was overpowered?

Yeah because a criminal will never force his way into a home in the UK because he is too "civilized" right?

And what makes you think she couldn't?

 

[Vagabond63]

Fascism isn't Right Wing, it is socialism........

Dream on. You have no idea what Socialism is, you just try and deflect what the GOP has become onto your Democrat party because the mid-terms are due and you are in panic mode. We find this hilarious over here.

 

[Hollie]

Drivel. The only regimes that reduce the rights of their citizens are the Right Wing populist (aka fascist) regimes that currently exist in many Eastern European countries.

''many Eastern European countries".

I guess you missed the part where I wrote, ''Most of Europe, especially pre WW2, and much now, lives under authoritarian / socialist regimes''.

The fact is, socialism and authoritarianism is the model across do much of Europe.

Are European countries Socialist? - Politic Sphere

Socialism is one of the most used economic models across the globe. It ensures that the ruling governments play a part in the lives of the masses. Many

www.politicsphere.com

From the perspective of taking care of the masses through various government initiatives, European countries can be described as socialist.

 

[Blues Man]

Dream on. You have no idea what Socialism is, you just try and deflect what the GOP has become onto your Democrat party because the mid-terms are due and you are in panic mode. We find this hilarious over here.

Like you political system is the gold standard right?

 

[Vagabond63]

Yeah because a criminal will never force his way into a home in the UK because he is too "civilized" right?

They can try, but they rarely, if ever, succeed if the householder has adequate security in place and is alert to the possibility.

 

[2aguy]

My preferred outcome in this instance, is that the poor victim never opened the door in the first place, or invested in a door spy hole, or remote camera. Had she done so, this would never have occurred, but that's hindsight.
Whatever makes you think, in this instance, that the victim would ever have gotten the chance to get hold of her gun before she was overpowered?

Okay......the criminal, being a criminal, gets around the door and the cameras and now, with the actual event, the woman and her daughter are face to face with the violent criminal you guys keep letting out of jail.....then what?

What outcome do you prefer? That the woman and her daughter are brutally raped or they use a gun to stop it?

As to your question?

Whatever makes you think, in this instance, that the victim would ever have gotten the chance to get hold of her gun before she was overpowered?

Actual, real world experience......

And the fact that I want that woman to have the choice to have a gun if she wants to have one...you don't want her to have that choice....you prefer she and her daughter are raped...



What I want you to know on Gun Violence Awareness Day

I correctly listened to my instincts; I had a feeling that my life was in danger in that elevator and prepared myself mentally for what was potentially to come.

I ran to my car in an attempt to escape and, before I could even get my entire body in my car, I was tackled by my attacker.

This man quickly overpowered me, stabbed at me with a knife, clamped his hand over my mouth multiple times, and repeatedly tried forcing me in the passenger seat of my car while telling me, “We’re going.”

The entire time this was happening, a rusted, serrated knife was being stabbed towards my abdomen and held at my face.

I had been hit in the face, thrown over my driver’s side console, and had rips in my tights from his hands trying to force my legs up and over into the passenger seat.

There are some individuals that think gun owners are “trigger happy” and wanting to pull their weapons out at the first opportunity. There is nothing further from the truth.

The night I was attacked, I fought like hell for my life before reaching for my gun. I kicked, I screamed, I had all ten fingernails ripped off and bloodied from scratching and trying to fight my way out of a literal life and death situation.
Ultimately, I accessed my gun, shot my attacker multiple times, and saved my life. He will be spending years in prison for what he did to me.

Using a gun in self-protection is not a decision one makes lightly; in fact, I never dreamed that I would be forced into a situation where I would have to do so. However, I also never imagined such evil existing in the world so that I would be powerless, wounded, on my back and unable to physically force my attacker off of me.

I owned a gun and had been trained on how to use it. I know how to safely carry and that a gun is a serious and significant weapon; it is not to be used carelessly. Naysayers and people with opposing opinions may try to undermine my situation with hypotheticals. I cannot answer these questions. All I can do is tell the facts of my story and the true account of how I saved my own life.

What I want you to know on Gun Awareness Day is that a gun in the hands of a potential victim is not improperly placed; it can be the only thing keeping her from being brutally raped and murdered.

Without my gun, I would not be alive today.


Guns are not the problem in America; men like my attacker -- who are willing to violently change one person’s life for no reason except for pure evil – are the problem.

Be safe at all times. Be aware of your surroundings. Trust your instincts. Always be able to protect yourself. Refuse to be a victim, and instead be a fighter and a survivor. Live to tell your tale and make a criminal regret the day he chose you as a “soft target.” My gun saved my life, and one could save yours too.
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Mother Shoots Intruder 'Multiple Times' to Save Baby - Breitbart

An Indianapolis mother shot a man “multiple times” after he allegedly broke into the home through the window in the baby’s room.

According to CBS 4, family members said that around noon on March 24, the woman “heard the window get busted and she called her husband and said I think somebody’s breaking in the house.”

She grabbed her pistol and ran toward the sound of breaking glass, only to be confronted by the alleged intruder who shot at her, but missed.

The mother then opened fire and struck the suspect “multiple times.” He was transported to a hospital for treatment.

In addition to being armed, a 911 dispatcher said the suspect was “carrying zip ties and a walkie-talkie.”
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DGU of the Day: Trotwood Ohio Woman Defeats Three Home Invaders - The Truth About Guns

Three men break into a home in Trotwood, Ohio. [Click here to watch the video.] They’re all armed. It is before 6 am, just three days after Christmas. One of the men is armed with a Tec-9 pistol. He enters last. The other two hold what appear to be conventional semi-auto pistols. They bypass two sleeping children to find the mother. The surveillance video shows the three following the mother after they pistol whipped her in the laundry room.

The man directly behind her has the Tec-9. Presumably holds her at gunpoint while the other two attempt to drag off a safe, in a room with two more children. While the two men are occupied with the safe, the woman breaks free from her captor, accesses a hidden pistol, and starts to fire.

All three run, but the Tec-9 gunman, Azikiwe Presley, is mortally wounded. His body is found 100 yards from the house. From wdtn.com:

“I got my gun and I started shooting and they ran,” the female caller told dispatchers. “They all three had guns, I’m confused … they must not have had bullets because after I pulled the trigger they just took off, instead of firing back. I don’t know if I hit one or not, I don’t see blood anywhere.”

In this case, the recipient of female dedication to protecting innocent life ran a hundred yards and died. It is not uncommon for a man who is fatally shot to run that far, even with a heart/lung shot. As he was likely the one holding the woman at gunpoint, and the closest, greatest, threat with the Tec-9, it is not surprising that he drew the lethal ticket. Whether through choice or happenstance, the mother made the right tactical decision.
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[2aguy]

They can try, but they rarely, if ever, succeed if the householder has adequate security in place and is alert to the possibility.

And when they do....when they actually bypass all the passive security and are then face to face with one, or more, violent criminals that you and the other leftists keep releasing from jail and prison?

What outcome do you prefer in that situation?

Do you prefer that the woman and her daughter have a gun as a final chance at self defense or that the woman and her 14 year old daughter are brutally raped by the criminal you guys keep releasing from jail? As happened in this actual situation?

 

[Vagabond63]

''many Eastern European countries".

I guess you missed the part where I wrote, ''Most of Europe, especially pre WW2, and much now, lives under authoritarian / socialist regimes''.

The fact is, socialism and authoritarianism is the model across do much of Europe.

Are European countries Socialist? - Politic Sphere

Socialism is one of the most used economic models across the globe. It ensures that the ruling governments play a part in the lives of the masses. Many

www.politicsphere.com

From the perspective of taking care of the masses through various government initiatives, European countries can be described as socialist.

Your own source disagrees with you,
"However, counter arguments say that Europe is more capitalistic than socialistic and tends to prioritize profits over the welfare of people [Source]. This is supported by the fact that many businesses thrive while people suffer. In the past two years, the number of millionaires and poor people in Europe increased. Such is evidence of inequality and distribution of wealth.

Also, many European major companies are privatized and owned by millionaires and billionaires. These countries also have the most marginalized and segregated minority groups who live in the underbellies of ghetto cities. Due to this, one cannot describe European countries as solely socialist."

Next?

 

[2aguy]

Dream on. You have no idea what Socialism is, you just try and deflect what the GOP has become onto your Democrat party because the mid-terms are due and you are in panic mode. We find this hilarious over here.

Panic mode? The democrats are looking at getting their asses kicked...just like the leftists in Sweden and Italy did...because you morons keep destroying your countries....

I know what socialism is, as do you, which is why you have to lie about fascism being socialism.......you have to hide what socialism does.....and that since 1917, all of the government mass murder has been committed by socialists....

 

[Blues Man]

They can try, but they rarely, if ever, succeed if the householder has adequate security in place and is alert to the possibility.

Very few homes are that secure

 

[2aguy]

Your own source disagrees with you,
"However, counter arguments say that Europe is more capitalistic than socialistic and tends to prioritize profits over the welfare of people [Source]. This is supported by the fact that many businesses thrive while people suffer. In the past two years, the number of millionaires and poor people in Europe increased. Such is evidence of inequality and distribution of wealth.

Also, many European major companies are privatized and owned by millionaires and billionaires. These countries also have the most marginalized and segregated minority groups who live in the underbellies of ghetto cities. Due to this, one cannot describe European countries as solely socialist."

Next?

Ooooh.....now you can answer my question...

After the career, violent criminal has bypassed the passive security measures that you love....and is now face to face with the woman and her 14 year old daughter.......you know, considering that getting past those passive measures is what he does as a career criminal.....

Which outcome do you prefer.....that the woman and her 14 year old daughter are brutally raped...as actually happened...or that they use a gun to stop the rape......? Driving off, captureing, or shooting and wounding, or even killing the attacker...so he doesn't simply run away to rape a woman and 14 year old who do not have a gun to stop him?

 

[Vagabond63]

Whatever makes you think, in this instance, that the victim would ever have gotten the chance to get hold of her gun before she was overpowered?

Actual, real world experience.

So you have no answer then, just your normal deluge of cut and paste deflection. Concession accepted.

 

[Vagabond63]

Very few homes are that secure

Perhaps in barbarous America...