God... Is Time.

[edthecynic]

Distance and motion are meaningless without time.

Sure, a foot is a foot at noon, but not a foot any other time of day.

You have it ass backwards as always, time is meaningless without motion.

 

[Boss]

We only perceive the present. That is the only 'time' that ever is.

No. It is impossible to perceive the present. Everything you use to perceive is reliant upon passing time. It takes time for light to travel from an object to your eye and the signal to travel to your brain and your brain to register what it experienced. By the time you have perceived it, the time has passed. It is forever a part of the past and you have no perception of anything in the present.

 

[there4eyeM]

Only what one perceives exist, and that happens 'now'.

 

[Boss]

Time is motion, and is proven.

Also, we do percieve the present.

We lofty eyed humans call it "living in the moment."

This is the dumbest god thread quite literally ever, dude.

Then God is motion and also proven.

We do not perceive the present. It's physically impossible. Everything perceived is in the past. You can call it whatever you want and have faith all day long. You cannot prove the present exists in reality. All you have is evidence that the present once existed and has now passed. Speed of light... it's a bugger!

 

[Boss]

Only what one perceives exist, and that happens 'now'.

What you perceive is not happening 'now' in the present. You can say it is... you can believe it. That's called "faith" in something. Your perception is dependent on the laws of nature. In order to see something, light has to travel... this takes time. By the time you have perceived it, time has passed and no longer exists in the present. If you go look at your reflection in the mirror, that was you a nano-second ago, not in the present. You can't see the present yet, it takes time for the light to travel.

Is this not getting through?

 

[Boss]

Second, of course the present exists.

Prove this?

 

[Boss]

Its not simply a perception - its something that we measure that exists in reality that weve given a name to.

You cannot prove what you cannot observe. You can have faith that present time exists.

This is why I think Time is God.

 

[Boss]

A nanosecond is technically the past, but practically now.

LMAO... Well... practically now is not now, is it?

 

[Boss]

Its so fast we are unable to percieve it happening.

Exactly, but we know by physics that it HAS happened and thus what we perceive is already in the past.

 

[there4eyeM]

Nothing external can be proved without possibility of doubt and argument. All perception is subjective. The 'past' is a term we use for memory or to explain what we observe because we need labels.
Logic decrees that perception can only happen in the present. The 'past' is not a place, a location where one can go or visit, the same as the 'future'. They are metaphors for what appears to our consciousness to occur.

Granted, however, that many seem to live in the past. Furthermore, much of humanity would seem to walk in a sleep state, to function under hypnosis, and that doesn't appear as very 'in the present'. Nevertheless, it cannot happen at any other time than now.

 

[Boss]

Second, of course the present exists.

Prove this?

Sure.


Refer back to the formula posted for you a couple of pages ago on how we calculate time.

Note, its JUST a unit of measurement.

The formula itself proves that it exists. I know you wont get that, thats fine...but it does the job youve asked if you understood physics.

Counter that it exists.

I know how to calculate time.

You're supposed to be offering proof that present time exists.

 

[Boss]

Its so fast we are unable to percieve it happening.

Exactly, but we know by physics that it HAS happened and thus what we perceive is already in the past.

The technical past, the practical present.

There's only one present. Your "practical present" is in the past. It's not technical, it's actual.