Global Investment in Wind and Solar Energy Is Outshining Fossil Fuels

[Old Rocks]

Sorry. I followed the link and it says solar and wind are subsidized and thee most expensive form of electricity

Lying again, as per usual. Without lies, you would be unable to post, here is the reality;

Lazard’s Levelized Cost of Energy+ (LCOE+)

Lazard’s Levelized Cost of Energy+ is a widely cited report that analyzes the cost competitiveness of renewables, energy storage, and system considerations.

www.lazard.com

 

[Old Rocks]

You can also charge that battery off the grid at night with prices are low, and use it for the peak hours

Oh, so I can use my neighbor's excess solar, when I have none in the day time (and neither does he) and he can recharge from the nat gas grid at night, when neither of us has solar.
Am I borrowing from him at night too?

Ah well, some will be purposely stupid just to support and unsupportable point. Do you know why it is called a grid? Do you suppose that Chicago is not connected to parts of the US that has ample power? You are really going down the rabbit hole in your dislike of solar.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Ah well, some will be purposely stupid just to support and unsupportable point. Do you know why it is called a grid? Do you suppose that Chicago is not connected to parts of the US that has ample power? You are really going down the rabbit hole in your dislike of solar.

Just pointing out the idiocy of the claim that solar plus VPP in Chicago in winter is useful.

 

[abu afak]

Links don't prove shit. As you have proven.

Many of us watch the news and have heard AOC and Bernie sanders state the price is $100 trillion.

Funny thing is, you never actually post what the cost has been, is, and will be, yet you challenge me to prove something you don't know a thing about.

Yes, if Google will not link or allow the comment made, to be found, then it is not true.

Google is the truth.

LOL you ldiot
Sanders' "100 Trillion" is for his whole agenda, not just 'Climate.'
16 Trillion was for Climate.
Why don't you know how to use google?
You are Willfully Ignorant.
It's so easy to get info/FACTS these days yet you Don't.
Stupid? Partisan Lazy just throwing up numbers?

Is Sanders' 'plan' everyone's?
What will staying all Fossil cost?
Does solar cost much less very year? Down 85% in a decade?

IAC

"..The $97.5 trillion price tag is made up mostly of the costs of Sanders’s THREE most ambitious proposals. Sanders concedes that his Medicare For All plan would increase federal spending by “somewhere between $30 and $40 trillion over a 10-year period.”​

He pledges to spend $16.3 trillion on his climate plan. ​

And his proposal to guarantee all Americans a full-time government job paying $15 an hour, with full benefits, is estimated to cost $30.1 trillion.​

The final $11.1 trillion includes $3 trillion to forgive all student loans and guarantee free public-college tuition—plus $1.8 trillion to expand Social Security, $2.5 trillion on housing, $1.6 trillion on paid family leave, $1 trillion on infrastructure, $800 billion on general K-12 education spending, and an additional $400 billion on higher public school teacher salaries.​

The Unaffordable Candidate

It’s been a difficult time for Senator Bernie Sanders, who was hospitalized two weeks ago after suffering a heart attack and whose 46-year-old daughter-in-law has recently died of cancer. Given Sanders’s age (78) and health and familial challenges, his quest for the Democratic presidential...

www.city-journal.org

So that it's really 16 Trillion over 10 years by the most Left wing proposer.
But In fact, the GND is happening without Govt help.
It is exploding because it's economical.

So look before you throw sh*t/LIES up next time
You and the other *holes post NO facts.

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[Captain Caveman]

If you live in California, and have a $400 a month power bill, and are dissing solar, you are one stupid mother.

Here's the renewables on the UK -

Solar in Scotland

www.siser.ac.uk

Not many dots in Scotland for PV installations, that's all down South. It's offshore wind around here.

You see the odd house with panels, but unless it's ideal direction etc.. you would be lucky to recoup the cost of your PV installation.

 

[Captain Caveman]

Global Investment in Wind and Solar Outshines Fossil Fuels

or, in plain english

Global investment in Wind and Solar is Extremely Expensive Compared to Fossil Fuels

of course there is more money spent on wind and solar which only offer a tiny trickle of electricity. You must build by the square mile, for years, before we even have a small percentage of our electricity come from wind or solar

Nuclear is the way forward. Those against nuclear harness the power via PV's from an extremely large nuclear reactor, the Sun.

Once fusion is harnessed, man get rid of these turbines and PV's that litter the planet and wreck havoc on wildlife.

 

[elektra]

LOL you ldiot
Sanders' "100 Trillion" is for his whole agenda, not just 'Climate.'
16 Trillion was for Climate.
Why don't you know how to use google?
You are Willfully Ignorant.
It's so easy to get info/FACTS these days yet you Don't.
Stupid? Partisan Lazy just throwing up numbers?

Is Sanders' 'plan' everyone's?
What will staying all Fossil cost?
Does solar cost much less very year? Down 85% in a decade?

IAC

"..The $97.5 trillion price tag is made up mostly of the costs of Sanders’s THREE most ambitious proposals. Sanders concedes that his Medicare For All plan would increase federal spending by “somewhere between $30 and $40 trillion over a 10-year period.”​

He pledges to spend $16.3 trillion on his climate plan. ​

And his proposal to guarantee all Americans a full-time government job paying $15 an hour, with full benefits, is estimated to cost $30.1 trillion.​

The final $11.1 trillion includes $3 trillion to forgive all student loans and guarantee free public-college tuition—plus $1.8 trillion to expand Social Security, $2.5 trillion on housing, $1.6 trillion on paid family leave, $1 trillion on infrastructure, $800 billion on general K-12 education spending, and an additional $400 billion on higher public school teacher salaries.​

The Unaffordable Candidate

It’s been a difficult time for Senator Bernie Sanders, who was hospitalized two weeks ago after suffering a heart attack and whose 46-year-old daughter-in-law has recently died of cancer. Given Sanders’s age (78) and health and familial challenges, his quest for the Democratic presidential...

www.city-journal.org

So that it's really 16 Trillion over 10 years by the most Left wing proposer.
But In fact, the GND is happening without Govt help.
It is exploding because it's economical.

So look before you throw sh*t/LIES up next time
You and the other *holes post NO facts.

`

AOC green new deal, as confirmed by ceres.org

And yes, in addition to Sanders, $170 trillion democrats want to spend.

 

[elektra]

Lying again, as per usual. Without lies, you would be unable to post, here is the reality;

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Lazard’s Levelized Cost of Energy+ (LCOE+)

Lazard’s Levelized Cost of Energy+ is a widely cited report that analyzes the cost competitiveness of renewables, energy storage, and system considerations.

www.lazard.com

That is not Aba dabba do's link, which I addressed.

Levelized cost? Not real cost, but the magically levelized cost.

Lazard is a hocus pocus study, not reality

 

[elektra]

Here is one of many clean green renewable the sky is falling websites stating we must spend $100 trillion.

The $100 trillion question

INTERVIEW WITH JOEL SOLOMON, CO-FOUNDING PARTNER, RENEWAL FUNDS Q. Your book is called The Clean Money Revolution: Reinventing Power, Purpose, and Capitalism. What kind of economic revolutionary change would you like to see? We must prioritise fair and equal opportunity. Investment in women...

www.theclimatechangeproject.today

 

[Captain Caveman]

Here is one of many clean green renewable the sky is falling websites stating we must spend $100 trillion.

The $100 trillion question

INTERVIEW WITH JOEL SOLOMON, CO-FOUNDING PARTNER, RENEWAL FUNDS Q. Your book is called The Clean Money Revolution: Reinventing Power, Purpose, and Capitalism. What kind of economic revolutionary change would you like to see? We must prioritise fair and equal opportunity. Investment in women...

www.theclimatechangeproject.today

Amazing how Lefties always perceive disaster, and they can fix it with money?

 

[Crick]

Amazing how righties always perceive conspiracies to change things unnecessarily and steal their money in the process.
1) Global warming is an extremely serious problem
2) Global warming is the result of human combustion of fossil fuels
3) Humans can end global warming by ceasing to burn fossil fuels
4) Doing so cannot happen without significant investment in infrastructure change

Which of these facts do you reject?

 

[bripat9643]

Amazing how righties always perceive conspiracies to change things unnecessarily and steal their money in the process.

That's because that's what lefties are always doing.

 

[bripat9643]

Amazing how righties always perceive conspiracies to change things unnecessarily and steal their money in the process.
1) Global warming is an extremely serious problem
2) Global warming is the result of human combustion of fossil fuels
3) Humans can end global warming by ceasing to burn fossil fuels
4) Doing so cannot happen without significant investment in infrastructure change

Which of these facts do you reject?

I reject all of them. They aren't facts. They are leftwing hysteria.

 

[elektra]

Amazing how righties always perceive conspiracies to change things unnecessarily and steal their money in the process.
1) Global warming is an extremely serious problem
2) Global warming is the result of human combustion of fossil fuels
3) Humans can end global warming by ceasing to burn fossil fuels
4) Doing so cannot happen without significant investment in infrastructure change

Which of these facts do you reject?

1) all predictions of problems caused have not materialized. Zero proof that a warmer climate is bad.

2)global warming is caused by fluctuations of the sun. Zero proof CO2 causes warming. CO2 is falsely labeled a pollutant by the government. CO2 is needed for life, for plants.

3) Global warming is not proven. Fossil fuel burning can not be the problem when the solar and wind solution requires more fossil fuels to be burned.

4) our infrastructure is not the problem. And the solution you propose, burn fossil fuels to make solar and wind power, again is what you claim the problem.

 

[elektra]

Wind will be Competitive! (Secretary Chu from 2011)

Yes, what began in 1992 for wind’s PTC was extended in 1999… 2002 … 2004 … 2005 … 2006 … 2008 … 2009 … 2012 … 2014 … 2015 … 2016 … 2019 … 2021.

wattsupwiththat.com

Wind energy, never competitive with fossil fuels, remains uncompetitive as demonstrated by the desperate attempt by the Biden Administration in BBB (Build Back Better) to extend the Production Tax Credit for a 14th time. Yes, what began in 1992 for wind’s PTC was extended in 1999… 2002 … 2004 … 2005 … 2006 … 2008 … 2009 … 2012 … 2014 … 2015 … 2016 … 2019 … 2021.

 

[jc456]

Amazing how righties always perceive conspiracies to change things unnecessarily and steal their money in the process.
1) Global warming is an extremely serious problem
2) Global warming is the result of human combustion of fossil fuels
3) Humans can end global warming by ceasing to burn fossil fuels
4) Doing so cannot happen without significant investment in infrastructure change

Which of these facts do you reject?

post one prediction that has come true.

 

[Captain Caveman]

Amazing how righties always perceive conspiracies to change things unnecessarily and steal their money in the process.
1) Global warming is an extremely serious problem
2) Global warming is the result of human combustion of fossil fuels
3) Humans can end global warming by ceasing to burn fossil fuels
4) Doing so cannot happen without significant investment in infrastructure change

Which of these facts do you reject?

You perceive global warming (I thought it was called climate change) to be so important, you still make use of fossil fuels and items derived/built by using fossil fuels.

Global warming is not all down to man. It's to do with loads of factors, earth and solar processes.

Burning fossil fuel is a tiny part of the planets processes to do with climate. Climate is much more than co2. We are in a co2 drought at 440ppm co2.

Please explain your infrastructure change without causing co2, this will be good to hear

 

[Old Rocks]

I reject all of them. They aren't facts. They are leftwing hysteria.

Every Scientific Society, every National Academy of Science, and every major University in the world has policy statements that AGW is real and a clear and present danger. Against that we have bozos with less than a third grade science education making unsupported claims. LOL Oh, who to believe.

 

[Captain Caveman]

Crick

 

[Captain Caveman]

Every Scientific Society, every National Academy of Science, and every major University in the world has policy statements that AGW is real and a clear and present danger. Against that we have bozos with less than a third grade science education making unsupported claims. LOL Oh, who to believe.

Good to see you described yourself as a bozo, Mr Copy and Paste Brochure Guy.