Gingrich closer to Presidential Run

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GETTING THERE
Newt Gingrich isn't fully into the 2008 Republican presidential nomination race yet, but he's getting there. Over the weekend, according to sources with knowledge of the meeting, Gingrich met with advisers at a small, swanky restaurant/retreat in Virginia horse country to discuss laying the logistical groundwork for his formal entry in the race.

"Newt commissioned the memo some time ago, and [longtime Gingrich adviser] Joe Gaylord has been working on it," says a Gingrich insider. "Newt is taking this possible run very seriously and in a way that you would expect: looking at the tactics, the history, the opportunities. He's looking at all the angles."

Gingrich had already commissioned a planning memo that is said to read out at more than 100 pages, covering everything from policy development to travel to the need for the former House Speaker to drop a few pounds for all the TV appearances.

Reviewing the memo was one of the agenda items for this gathering. Gingrich has been visible in conservative and Republican circles of late, pushing a book on his new Republican agenda, and over the past five or so years, he has served as a private sounding board for the Bush Administration, particularly on Washington politics and reform of the American health-care and retirement systems.

As other GOP presidential hopefuls have traveled the country and seen their visibility -- and poll numbers -- rise and fall as the next hopeful comes into view of potential voters, Gingrich to date has not overplayed his hand. He -- along with former New York City mayor, Rudy Giuliani -- remains one of the most popular Republican figures whose name has been mentioned for a presidential run, but who has not gotten fully into the race.

"We're all expecting he's going to accept the memo, go home and add to the piles of materials he's working through to make the decision," says the Gingrich associate. "We expect we'll all be charged with various tasks related to it, and we'll have a decision early in the fall."


IT'S ALL ABOUT THEM
Former President Bill Clinton arrives in Waterbury, Connecticut, today to stump for Sen. Joe Lieberman at a time when poll numbers for the Senator show him in a dog fight for the Democrat nomination for the Senate. Some polls show upstart, anti-war Kossack/MoveOn puppet Ned Lamont leading Lieberman within the margin of error.

Clinton's involvement, according to Democrats familiar with his thinking, was something he was hoping to avoid, but it also highlights the odd dynamics at play in national Democratic politics. "Clinton's presence in Waterbury is less about Lieberman, and more about Hillary's future and the future of the Clintonian wing of the Democratic Party," says a Democrat political consultant in Washington, who has worked for Clinton in the past.

In Clinton's view, the Howard Dean, MoveOn.org, Daily Kos, and My DD activists have served a useful purpose within the party, but have overplayed their hand and now have put the party on a path that could take it over a cliff in the 2006 and 2008 election cycles.

"If Joe Lieberman wins the primary, and wins by a decent margin, then it's another loss for the far left activists of the party who have only been successful in placing one of their own in charge of the party, and that's Howard Dean," says the consultant. "The far left has staked its future to a large degree on beating Lieberman. If they lose that claim, then it makes it a bit easier for the moderates in the party to reassert some control."

And it's Clinton who wants the control. While he has been helpful to the Democrat party, his activities for the Democrats have been limited since Dean took over as DNC chairman. The relationship between Dean and Clinton's wife, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, has been rocky at best.

Clinton's arrival in Waterbury surprised some Democrat observers, particularly since Senator Clinton had announced that she would take no position on the race. But according to the Democrat consultants, that was all part of the Clinton plan.

"The Clintons know that if Joe wins, the MoveOn types are going to turn their guns on another traditional Democrat and they think that traditional Democrat will be Hillary, and they don't need to give those nuts any more ammunition," says the Democrat consultant.

Other national Democrats with bigger aspirations have come out in support of Lieberman, including presidential hopeful Sen. Joe Biden. But Hillary has had the rockiest relationship with the far-left crowd.

In Clinton's view, the organizations that have elevated anti-war protester Cindy Sheehan and law-enforcement assaulter Rep. Cynthia McKinney as the faces of the Democrat party make it increasingly difficult to attract moderate and undecided voters, particularly in general elections. "A lot of us think that the Lieberman race is going to be a watershed for Democrats. That's why you see so much energy around it," says a Democrat activist in New York.

http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=10127
 
I don't think Gingrich stands a chance of winning, but he would help focus the issues. I hope he gets in the race.
 
Newt would immediately be the voice of true conservatives in the primary. I'd give him better than 2:1 odds to win the nomination.
 
5stringJeff said:
Newt would immediately be the voice of true conservatives in the primary. I'd give him better than 2:1 odds to win the nomination.
I agree with you on the voice of conservativism, just don't think his lifestyle would get the nod. Opposit problem of McCain, IF Newt won the nomination, he wouldn't stand a chance in the general election.

He would though, pull the GOP to the correct message, while not allowing the diversions of the DNC to succeed. He's the brain trust on issues.
 
Kathianne said:
I agree with you on the voice of conservativism, just don't think his lifestyle would get the nod. Opposit problem of McCain, IF Newt won the nomination, he wouldn't stand a chance in the general election.

He would though, pull the GOP to the correct message, while not allowing the diversions of the DNC to succeed. He's the brain trust on issues.

I think Newt is both smart enough and charismatic enough to win. He's not going to run if he doesn't think he can win it all. As far as the family values issue goes, I'm sure the Dems will try to make it stick, but all Newt has to do is parrot the DNC talking points of 1998: "it's just sex," "it's between two consenting adults," etc.
 
5stringJeff said:
I think Newt is both smart enough and charismatic enough to win. He's not going to run if he doesn't think he can win it all. As far as the family values issue goes, I'm sure the Dems will try to make it stick, but all Newt has to do is parrot the DNC talking points of 1998: "it's just sex," "it's between two consenting adults," etc.

But...but... I thought conservatives were the "family values" folk. Guess cheating on your wife and serving her with divorce papers in her hospital bed after a mastectomy is "moral"?

Newt wouldn't get one democratic vote in a general election. Kathianne is right...opposite problem from McCain. (And not because of the "live and let live thing"... but because he's a hypocrite).
 
President "Newt"? I think he should use his full first name instead... Newton Gingritch..

Imagine if he wins, there will be "Grinch" jokes everywhere...
 
His term as speaker of the House was so fruitful...

...I forget...he was asked to resign in shame???

Yep, the Republican nominee for Pres in '08 INDEED.:)
 
5stringJeff said:
I think Newt is both smart enough and charismatic enough to win. He's not going to run if he doesn't think he can win it all. As far as the family values issue goes, I'm sure the Dems will try to make it stick, but all Newt has to do is parrot the DNC talking points of 1998: "it's just sex," "it's between two consenting adults," etc.

He's the only Republican I'd vote for.
 
Newt's a smart guy and he likes science. I wonder how his pro-science stance will square with the anti-stem cell and "intelligent design" wing of the Republican Party?
 
jillian said:
But...but... I thought conservatives were the "family values" folk. Guess cheating on your wife and serving her with divorce papers in her hospital bed after a mastectomy is "moral"?

Newt wouldn't get one democratic vote in a general election. Kathianne is right...opposite problem from McCain. (And not because of the "live and let live thing"... but because he's a hypocrite).


And And I thought Liberals were live and let live, afterall anyones personal sex life is no one else's business. Certainly if the morality standard set forth by Clinton is the benchmark for moral standards in government then Newt should be a fave amongst Dems :)
 
Bonnie said:
And And I thought Liberals were live and let live, afterall anyones personal sex life is no one else's business. Certainly if the morality standard set forth by Clinton is the benchmark for moral standards in government then Newt should be a fave amongst Dems :)

Dems change their minds more often than-----( shit--I was gonna say 'women' but I better not) OOOOOPS:fifty:
 
Nuc said:
Newt's a smart guy and he likes science. I wonder how his pro-science stance will square with the anti-stem cell and "intelligent design" wing of the Republican Party?

His actual CONSERVATISM would make the difference for them.
 
Kathianne said:
I don't think Gingrich stands a chance of winning, but he would help focus the issues. I hope he gets in the race.

Agreed--If nothing else he may bring some truth to the campaign. That's if the media will give him some play of course.
 
dilloduck said:
Agreed--If nothing else he may bring some truth to the campaign. That's if the media will give him some play of course.

I think between McCain and Newt, Newt would be the choice of most, because we all know McCain is just a liberal dressed in conservatives clothing. I wouldn't vote for McCain ever. If he was the Republican candidate, I'd vote a different party, or write someone in.
 
Unfortunately, Newty is as amoral, greedy and power hungry as his contemporary, Tom DeLay. He, and his ilk, are the last thing this country needs.
 
5stringJeff said:
Newt would immediately be the voice of true conservatives in the primary. I'd give him better than 2:1 odds to win the nomination.

Newt is no different from any of the rest of the authoritarians dressed in conservative clothing that now wield , or seek to wield, power in the GOP. He, no more represents "true conservatives" than Charles Manson represents true Christians.
 
Bullypulpit said:
Unfortunately, Newty is as amoral, greedy and power hungry as his contemporary, Tom DeLay. He, and his ilk, are the last thing this country needs.
Now that is funny! That statement applies to just about any politician you care to name, including either Clinton and the Hon. Mr. Kerry.
 
Bullypulpit said:
Newt is no different from any of the rest of the authoritarians dressed in conservative clothing that now wield , or seek to wield, power in the GOP. He, no more represents "true conservatives" than Charles Manson represents true Christians.

Newt's actions while in the House show him to be a conservative in the true sense of the word, your description notwithstanding.
 

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