ColonelAngus
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Can anyone explain to me how this is not communism?
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How do city-owned grocery stores work? What to expect at NYC's first
What’s affordable, healthy, and consumed all over? Groceries from your local city-owned supermarket. Mayor Zohran Mamdani is generating some buzz this week with his announcement that New York City is gearing up to open its first batch. Joined by a number of city officials, Mamdani on Monday...www.nbcnewyork.com
$30 million and 3 years because it is being built from the ground up and will use UNION WORKERS.
This is a scam and a giant theft of taxpayer money to pay back those who helped get Mamdani elected,
Here is a communist grocery store.
If ONLY CERTAIN ITEMS ARE CHEAPER…PEOPLE WILL GO ONLY FOR THOSE ITEMS.
Also, the private stores can lower their prices.
What Mamdani is doing is trying to put private stores out of business so that people rely on the government.
COMMUNISM DOES NOT WORK!
He claimed the Manhattan store is ground up.It’s not even ground up. The building is already there. It’s a 30 million dollar 3 year remodel.
That is NOT the governments job. In a nutshell.What is a bad idea for a local government (as this sounds like it is) can be a good idea in the macro. I’ve long held that we should do something like this on the federal level. Essentially it is the modern equivalent of “priming the pump” back during the depression.
The way it would work is like this. If you filed a tax return in (pick a year....2028), in 2029, you’re given a $50 stipend to spend. 400M filers X $50.00 is $20 Billion dollars a month or $240B a year. Yes we can afford it; considering out “conservative” presidents ahve spent upwards of 2-6 times that on defense every year. This would also replace a lot of the public assistance that the government dishes out in the form of WIC (to name one program). Every filer gets it; no qualification. If you make $10K a month, you’re getting it too.
The catch is this; the money is only good at the following location; simultaneously, the department of commerce opens an online marketplace that sells only American made products. By that I mean stuff that is made here from American materials. Set a % at that--I say at least 85% made here. Canned food will probably be the largest single segment of items available but I think we could rejuvenate (on a small scale) our textile industry with clothing, curtains, car seat covers, table cloths, cotton diapers, etc... Like the textiles American made furniture and electronics can benefit from the one of the things that is lacking the most; a distribution channel to consumers where price isn’t the determining factor. Few people think to themselves...”Wow, that TEMU end table is just the style I want.” They buy from TEMU because it is cheap. With the subsidy mentioned above, you can lower the price of the goods to Americans. Hel...lAmerican beer and wine can make a come-back and (where practical) can be delivered from wherever the distribution centers are to be located.
The $50 a month would accumulate too (to a total of $600--after that; no mas until you start spending it). If you want to save up for a North Carolina rocking chair...you can.
The key is to get Americans manufacturing again. It would help numerous other sectors but manufacturing drives a lot of spin offs. The can of corn in your cabinet employed the farmers, the cannery, the truckers who delivered it and the store who sold it. Imported cans (if there are such a thing) skip 1/2 of that supply chain. Not so good.

Interesting, I read it was a building the city already owned.He claimed the Manhattan store is ground up.
There are plenty of existing buildings that could be used, but then there is less money to steal.
There are 5 total stores that will cost $75 million.Interesting, I read it was a building the city already owned.
It doesn’t matter really, if it does open it’ll cost over 100 million. If it doesn’t it’ll still cost 100 million. NY is screwed either way.
The additional issue is that major chains are able to contract at lower price per unit than mom and pops / Bodega's. Six or so stores won't get near enough the purchasing power to do that. competing with monsters like Aldis is just an instant loser.There had been a few of these groceries around the country and I believe they all went out of business. So, I don't expect this will last long. Major grocery chains only get about a 2% profit from their sales, so these groceries can't sell their groceries for much cheaper than a real grocery. Since their groceries won't be free these neighborhoods will make the groceries free all by themselves, which is an unsustainable business model. Contrary to what Mayor M thinks, tax payers aren't a bottomless pit of money, which is why all of these other same type of groceries all went out of business. You put these things in high crime, high theft areas and that's what you get, high crime and high theft.
Good point. I think the original article said that the grocery wouldn't have to pay taxes or rents so they could sell things cheaper but, as you pointed out, due to their lower buying power, they would wind up paying higher wholesale prices for the goods they sell than the big chains, and when you talk about putting these things in areas no chain would touch, theft and crime will take their toll, not to mention that I'm sure Mayor M will want to pay everyone in the store a living wage and in order to get people to work in these areas, they would have to anyway. All in all, it's a losing proposition. But, the left's MO has always been when something doesn't work, just do it again and again and again. Surely after many times the law of averages will be on your side.The additional issue is that major chains are able to contract at lower price per unit than mom and pops / Bodega's. Six or so stores won't get near enough the purchasing power to do that. competing with monsters like Aldis is just an instant loser.
They will probably have different prices whether you are black, white, Asian, Jewish, male, female, gay, straight, transexual or disabled.Good point. I think the original article said that the grocery wouldn't have to pay taxes or rents so they could sell things cheaper but, as you pointed out, due to their lower buying power, they would wind up paying higher wholesale prices for the goods they sell than the big chains, and when you talk about putting these things in areas no chain would touch, theft and crime will take their toll, not to mention that I'm sure Mayor M will want to pay everyone in the store a living wage and in order to get people to work in these areas, they would have to anyway. All in all, it's a losing proposition. But, the left's MO has always been when something doesn't work, just do it again and again and again. Surely after many times the law of averages will be on your side.
It probably would have been better to entice major retailers in with tax breaks or a co-op structure. Oh well.Good point. I think the original article said that the grocery wouldn't have to pay taxes or rents so they could sell things cheaper but, as you pointed out, due to their lower buying power, they would wind up paying higher wholesale prices for the goods they sell than the big chains, and when you talk about putting these things in areas no chain would touch, theft and crime will take their toll, not to mention that I'm sure Mayor M will want to pay everyone in the store a living wage and in order to get people to work in these areas, they would have to anyway. All in all, it's a losing proposition. But, the left's MO has always been when something doesn't work, just do it again and again and again. Surely after many times the law of averages will be on your side.
If he had his way, that's how it would be.They will probably have different prices whether you are black, white, Asian, Jewish, male, female, gay, straight, transexual or disabled.
Straight Jewish men will pay the most and black trannies in wheelchairs won't pay a thing.
Here’s the order of who gets preference:If he had his way, that's how it would be.
LOL. You mean give tax breaks to those greedy evil price gougers?It probably would have been better to entice major retailers in with tax breaks or a co-op structure. Oh well.
I don't know about Christians. They seem pretty low on the list.Here’s the order of who gets preference:
1) Illegal aliens
2) Islamists
3) Transgenders
4) Blacks
5) Gays
6) Asians
7) Christians
8) Straights
9) Dogs
10) Jews
This is illegal.The store will be required to pay no taxes or rent, yet the neighboring competitors will face those high costs. That is not capitalism, folks.