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Eat lean meat and vegetables, lift heavy 2 or 3 times a week (age depending). Sprint, or push the prowler sled, and do loaded carries at least once a week.

You will live longer, you will live better, and you will not cower in fear of a bug that 99% of the population shrugs off.

It's a hard world; let the weak fall.
 

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Eat lean meat and vegetables, lift heavy 2 or 3 times a week (age depending). Sprint, or push the prowler sled, and do loaded carries at least once a week.

You will live longer, you will live better, and you will not cower in fear of a bug that 99% of the population shrugs off.

It's a hard world; let the weak fall.

You had me until the last line.
 
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Eat lean meat and vegetables, lift heavy 2 or 3 times a week (age depending). Sprint, or push the prowler sled, and do loaded carries at least once a week.

You will live longer, you will live better, and you will not cower in fear of a bug that 99% of the population shrugs off.

It's a hard world; let the weak fall.

You had me until the last line.
I don't care.

Do what you want.

I will keep doing this, because people have been trying to kill me off and on since I was 15 years old, and I am still here.

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I don't eat lean meat and I am in great shape
..you forgot sleep and hydrate..sleep is very important
 

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For Breakfast, I make a smoothie with
Scope Pea protein mix, Teaspoon and a half Matcha green tea, teaspoon ground cinnamon, half cup of plain yogurt, Almond milk, half a teaspoon coconut oil

At Break, I eat a bowl of fruit mixed with Kiwi, strawberries, blueberries, apple slices, pineapple and Banana, My recipe of trail mix walnuts pecans dark chocolate covered almonds and espresso beans

Lunch I'll have a packet of Tuna and a KIND protein bar

Dinner I'll either grill chicken breast or broil fish and have some type of vegetable and my trial mix then I go walk and do my abs workout. and resistance upper body workout.
 
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From the link;
"The Overland Manifesto – Clint Overland
There are 5 lifts that you must keep holy and do.
Squats, Deadlifts, Overhead Press, Bench Press and Clean and Press.
These are the foundation of everything you build upon. Without these
lifts you are just playing games better left to your betters. Do not
forget or neglect pull ups and dips these are like incense to the IRON
and make it happy.

Learn the correct form of each lift, seek out knowledge and turn it
into wisdom. Worry about doing them right, correct fundamentals and
basics will never do you wrong.

Worry more about getting stronger than you do getting bigger.
Progressively add weight to your lifts and do the form correctly. The
stronger you are the bigger you will become. Keep a journal of your
travels and training, to remind you just how far you come. If you add
2.5 pounds per week to your lifts then the journey is going forward.
Don’t set out without a map or a plan of your trip. Decide what you
want and then how to get there. Don’t vary from the plan every other
week. Be constant and diligent about what you have set out to
accomplish. Keep records and journals of your journey, this way you
can look back on the past and see your progress from where you were to
where you are and plan the move forward.

The Alter of Iron is holy keep it that way clean up
after yourself. If you can’t rack them don’t mess with them. Clean off
the equipment when you are through and stay humble. I have seen men
and women that by right of age and experience cleaning dojo mats and
floors as well as re-racking weight because they have the learned to
respect the Iron as well as themselves.

Strength comes from the positive, size and stamina
come from the negative. Work both sides of the lift. Explode up, slow
release or lower. Make every rep count for something. Do not try and
impress others, be slow to talk, don’t brag, prove who you are by the
things you do. Let others watch and learn from you, don’t be led by
bad examples set the example. Don’t be influenced by peer pressure, be
the pressure that sets the example for others to follow. You will
learn more from your negatives and failures than you will ever earn
from your positives and wins. Complacency kills, it kills the spirit,
murders dreams and slaughters goals. Never settle for what others
believe you are capable of. Fish swim, birds fly, haters hate. It is
as simple as that. Do not let the opinions and words of lesser men
condemn or control you. The truth is they are just jealous of you and
hate themselves for not being brave enough to change.

Do not forget to sleep and to eat. Your body needs
both to repair what you have done to it. You cannot run a car on
empty, nor can you drive far on a flat. Don’t try, you will only hurt
yourself and set your journey back days, weeks, and maybe months.
Protein, fats, carbs they are the building block and cement of your
body, you will never make gains without them. Sleep and rest are the
maintenance and repair days, without them you can’t expect to move on.
Your goals will set your dietary needs.
You have to decide what you are wanting to do then plan and execute your plan accordingly. You have access to the whole world of knowledge right at your fingertips, use it to educate yourself in what and what not to do. Know your body
and how it responds to certain things. Listen to it, your body will
tell you what you need. If you are craving milk then you are needing
fat and calcium most likely. If you are craving meat then you need
more protein. If you are tired and sore then you need to rest. Even if
that means taking a week off and kicking back to drink beer and sleep.
Remember you do not make gains in the gym only. You make gains at the
table and when you are asleep. If you plateau and are not gaining,
then stop for a week let yourself heal, and start fresh with a
refreshed body and spirit.

Most life lessons can be found under the IRON, but it
is up to you to look for them. Muscles and Faith are similar, if you
do not use and stress them you will stagnate and grow weak. Lift for
you and not for another. Believe that you can and you will if you move
toward that goal. Do nothing and expect nothing.

For every hour you lift, spend two training your mind,
and two training your spirit. Become BLESSED, (Whole, Complete and
Lacking nothing). Take time to meditate on what and why you are doing
it. Look for your flaws and how to erase or improve them. Never be
satisfied. You will never lift enough, learn enough, love enough.
Always seek to do better. Never be afraid to fail at something,
failure means you are trying and you never improve without trying.
There is only one person that you need to compete against that is the
man in the mirror. Be better today than you were yesterday and then
beat the man you are today, tomorrow. This is a marathon that last a
lifetime, not a sprint for the fastest to arrive at the grave.

You are the master of you destiny in the gym as well
as in life. The amount and effort you put in will return to you.
Little exertion means little rewards. This is a marathon not a sprint.
Take each step one at a time and make it a lifestyle not an enforced
requirement. Every time you go to the gym, the dojo or training hall
you are making progress. Whatever you have decided on you have to put
effort and exertion into. It doesn’t matter if it is being a
weightlifter, a martial artist or a painter. You have to put the work
in to receive and enjoy the benefits."
 

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.....I've always drank water and my kids do also...a few weeks ago, they were talking about how hydration is important for the older folks' immune system ..this is common senses--less water = the human body systems break down......
 

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..I don't do much...I stretch everyday ...run around the block 2 times a week....pull ups or push ups with stomach/light weights 2 times a week
..I used to bike to work everyday until the company closed down
 

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.....stretching exercises so when you are over 65 you don't have to be in a wheelchair
 

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Eat lean meat and vegetables, lift heavy 2 or 3 times a week (age depending). Sprint, or push the prowler sled, and do loaded carries at least once a week.

You will live longer, you will live better, and you will not cower in fear of a bug that 99% of the population shrugs off.

It's a hard world; let the weak fall.
Prowler sled? Lay off the drugs and learn English!
 
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Eat lean meat and vegetables, lift heavy 2 or 3 times a week (age depending). Sprint, or push the prowler sled, and do loaded carries at least once a week.

You will live longer, you will live better, and you will not cower in fear of a bug that 99% of the population shrugs off.

It's a hard world; let the weak fall.
Prowler sled? Lay off the drugs and learn English!
 

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I'm going to spend this weekend drinking beer, and playing video games.
 

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Eat lean meat and vegetables, lift heavy 2 or 3 times a week (age depending). Sprint, or push the prowler sled, and do loaded carries at least once a week.

You will live longer, you will live better, and you will not cower in fear of a bug that 99% of the population shrugs off.

It's a hard world; let the weak fall.
Prowler sled? Lay off the drugs and learn English!
You dumb shit a Powler Sled is the brand of PUSH/PULL sled
 

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From the link;
"The Overland Manifesto – Clint Overland
There are 5 lifts that you must keep holy and do.
Squats, Deadlifts, Overhead Press, Bench Press and Clean and Press.
These are the foundation of everything you build upon. Without these
lifts you are just playing games better left to your betters. Do not
forget or neglect pull ups and dips these are like incense to the IRON
and make it happy.

Learn the correct form of each lift, seek out knowledge and turn it
into wisdom. Worry about doing them right, correct fundamentals and
basics will never do you wrong.

Worry more about getting stronger than you do getting bigger.
Progressively add weight to your lifts and do the form correctly. The
stronger you are the bigger you will become. Keep a journal of your
travels and training, to remind you just how far you come. If you add
2.5 pounds per week to your lifts then the journey is going forward.
Don’t set out without a map or a plan of your trip. Decide what you
want and then how to get there. Don’t vary from the plan every other
week. Be constant and diligent about what you have set out to
accomplish. Keep records and journals of your journey, this way you
can look back on the past and see your progress from where you were to
where you are and plan the move forward.

The Alter of Iron is holy keep it that way clean up
after yourself. If you can’t rack them don’t mess with them. Clean off
the equipment when you are through and stay humble. I have seen men
and women that by right of age and experience cleaning dojo mats and
floors as well as re-racking weight because they have the learned to
respect the Iron as well as themselves.

Strength comes from the positive, size and stamina
come from the negative. Work both sides of the lift. Explode up, slow
release or lower. Make every rep count for something. Do not try and
impress others, be slow to talk, don’t brag, prove who you are by the
things you do. Let others watch and learn from you, don’t be led by
bad examples set the example. Don’t be influenced by peer pressure, be
the pressure that sets the example for others to follow. You will
learn more from your negatives and failures than you will ever earn
from your positives and wins. Complacency kills, it kills the spirit,
murders dreams and slaughters goals. Never settle for what others
believe you are capable of. Fish swim, birds fly, haters hate. It is
as simple as that. Do not let the opinions and words of lesser men
condemn or control you. The truth is they are just jealous of you and
hate themselves for not being brave enough to change.

Do not forget to sleep and to eat. Your body needs
both to repair what you have done to it. You cannot run a car on
empty, nor can you drive far on a flat. Don’t try, you will only hurt
yourself and set your journey back days, weeks, and maybe months.
Protein, fats, carbs they are the building block and cement of your
body, you will never make gains without them. Sleep and rest are the
maintenance and repair days, without them you can’t expect to move on.
Your goals will set your dietary needs.
You have to decide what you are wanting to do then plan and execute your plan accordingly. You have access to the whole world of knowledge right at your fingertips, use it to educate yourself in what and what not to do. Know your body
and how it responds to certain things. Listen to it, your body will
tell you what you need. If you are craving milk then you are needing
fat and calcium most likely. If you are craving meat then you need
more protein. If you are tired and sore then you need to rest. Even if
that means taking a week off and kicking back to drink beer and sleep.
Remember you do not make gains in the gym only. You make gains at the
table and when you are asleep. If you plateau and are not gaining,
then stop for a week let yourself heal, and start fresh with a
refreshed body and spirit.

Most life lessons can be found under the IRON, but it
is up to you to look for them. Muscles and Faith are similar, if you
do not use and stress them you will stagnate and grow weak. Lift for
you and not for another. Believe that you can and you will if you move
toward that goal. Do nothing and expect nothing.

For every hour you lift, spend two training your mind,
and two training your spirit. Become BLESSED, (Whole, Complete and
Lacking nothing). Take time to meditate on what and why you are doing
it. Look for your flaws and how to erase or improve them. Never be
satisfied. You will never lift enough, learn enough, love enough.
Always seek to do better. Never be afraid to fail at something,
failure means you are trying and you never improve without trying.
There is only one person that you need to compete against that is the
man in the mirror. Be better today than you were yesterday and then
beat the man you are today, tomorrow. This is a marathon that last a
lifetime, not a sprint for the fastest to arrive at the grave.

You are the master of you destiny in the gym as well
as in life. The amount and effort you put in will return to you.
Little exertion means little rewards. This is a marathon not a sprint.
Take each step one at a time and make it a lifestyle not an enforced
requirement. Every time you go to the gym, the dojo or training hall
you are making progress. Whatever you have decided on you have to put
effort and exertion into. It doesn’t matter if it is being a
weightlifter, a martial artist or a painter. You have to put the work
in to receive and enjoy the benefits."
I am just getting into weightlifting. I agree with 4 of the 5 lifts but isn't the clean and press a very dangerous lift unless you are a skilled weightlifter?
 
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From the link;
"The Overland Manifesto – Clint Overland
There are 5 lifts that you must keep holy and do.
Squats, Deadlifts, Overhead Press, Bench Press and Clean and Press.
These are the foundation of everything you build upon. Without these
lifts you are just playing games better left to your betters. Do not
forget or neglect pull ups and dips these are like incense to the IRON
and make it happy.

Learn the correct form of each lift, seek out knowledge and turn it
into wisdom. Worry about doing them right, correct fundamentals and
basics will never do you wrong.

Worry more about getting stronger than you do getting bigger.
Progressively add weight to your lifts and do the form correctly. The
stronger you are the bigger you will become. Keep a journal of your
travels and training, to remind you just how far you come. If you add
2.5 pounds per week to your lifts then the journey is going forward.
Don’t set out without a map or a plan of your trip. Decide what you
want and then how to get there. Don’t vary from the plan every other
week. Be constant and diligent about what you have set out to
accomplish. Keep records and journals of your journey, this way you
can look back on the past and see your progress from where you were to
where you are and plan the move forward.

The Alter of Iron is holy keep it that way clean up
after yourself. If you can’t rack them don’t mess with them. Clean off
the equipment when you are through and stay humble. I have seen men
and women that by right of age and experience cleaning dojo mats and
floors as well as re-racking weight because they have the learned to
respect the Iron as well as themselves.

Strength comes from the positive, size and stamina
come from the negative. Work both sides of the lift. Explode up, slow
release or lower. Make every rep count for something. Do not try and
impress others, be slow to talk, don’t brag, prove who you are by the
things you do. Let others watch and learn from you, don’t be led by
bad examples set the example. Don’t be influenced by peer pressure, be
the pressure that sets the example for others to follow. You will
learn more from your negatives and failures than you will ever earn
from your positives and wins. Complacency kills, it kills the spirit,
murders dreams and slaughters goals. Never settle for what others
believe you are capable of. Fish swim, birds fly, haters hate. It is
as simple as that. Do not let the opinions and words of lesser men
condemn or control you. The truth is they are just jealous of you and
hate themselves for not being brave enough to change.

Do not forget to sleep and to eat. Your body needs
both to repair what you have done to it. You cannot run a car on
empty, nor can you drive far on a flat. Don’t try, you will only hurt
yourself and set your journey back days, weeks, and maybe months.
Protein, fats, carbs they are the building block and cement of your
body, you will never make gains without them. Sleep and rest are the
maintenance and repair days, without them you can’t expect to move on.
Your goals will set your dietary needs.
You have to decide what you are wanting to do then plan and execute your plan accordingly. You have access to the whole world of knowledge right at your fingertips, use it to educate yourself in what and what not to do. Know your body
and how it responds to certain things. Listen to it, your body will
tell you what you need. If you are craving milk then you are needing
fat and calcium most likely. If you are craving meat then you need
more protein. If you are tired and sore then you need to rest. Even if
that means taking a week off and kicking back to drink beer and sleep.
Remember you do not make gains in the gym only. You make gains at the
table and when you are asleep. If you plateau and are not gaining,
then stop for a week let yourself heal, and start fresh with a
refreshed body and spirit.

Most life lessons can be found under the IRON, but it
is up to you to look for them. Muscles and Faith are similar, if you
do not use and stress them you will stagnate and grow weak. Lift for
you and not for another. Believe that you can and you will if you move
toward that goal. Do nothing and expect nothing.

For every hour you lift, spend two training your mind,
and two training your spirit. Become BLESSED, (Whole, Complete and
Lacking nothing). Take time to meditate on what and why you are doing
it. Look for your flaws and how to erase or improve them. Never be
satisfied. You will never lift enough, learn enough, love enough.
Always seek to do better. Never be afraid to fail at something,
failure means you are trying and you never improve without trying.
There is only one person that you need to compete against that is the
man in the mirror. Be better today than you were yesterday and then
beat the man you are today, tomorrow. This is a marathon that last a
lifetime, not a sprint for the fastest to arrive at the grave.

You are the master of you destiny in the gym as well
as in life. The amount and effort you put in will return to you.
Little exertion means little rewards. This is a marathon not a sprint.
Take each step one at a time and make it a lifestyle not an enforced
requirement. Every time you go to the gym, the dojo or training hall
you are making progress. Whatever you have decided on you have to put
effort and exertion into. It doesn’t matter if it is being a
weightlifter, a martial artist or a painter. You have to put the work
in to receive and enjoy the benefits."
I am just getting into weightlifting. I agree with 4 of the 5 lifts but isn't the clean and press a very dangerous lift unless you are a skilled weightlifter?
You will spend at least a couple months on the others before you're ready for clean and press, or power cleans. Take your time and watch your form, (video yourself to check form) and you'll be fine.
https://www.amazon.com/Starting-Strength-Basic-Barbell-Training/dp/0982522738&tag=ff0d01-20
 

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Sounds like too much ME to me. Everything in moderation.

MOST of good health is genes. Check out the people in Old Folks Homes. The ones who are healthiest never did anything special. They avoided getting fat. Most never ran a mile or went to the gym in their lives, or tried a vegetarian diet for more than a single meal. Most enjoyed red meat throughout their lives and never gave it a second thought.

The trouble with a strenuous exercise routine (any kind) is that the body wears out. You can't keep it up in the long run. You will start to get pulled muscles, joint problems, and ultimately "minor" injuries that simply never go away. You scale back to what you can do comfortably and leave it at that.

I was a runner for 35 years, and have been a lifelong weightlifter and participant in multiple sports. Now I am 70 years old. I could fill a complete sheet of paper, single spaced, with brief descriptions of all of my minor injuries. Running is out of the question, although I do a lot of strenuous bicycling. I lift weights, stretch, and do body-weight exercises, but in every case, my limit is set by my tolerance for pain, and not maximum strength. My feet hurt, my hands hurt, both my shoulders hurt, both hammies are damaged, although no doctor can tell me exactly how or what to do about it. My knees are OK, but I have to be very careful on stairs since they occasionally give out, and that could lead to serious injury under the wrong circumstances.

It is always entertaining to read some young whippersnapper (is that even a word?) talking about a life routine that he thinks will keep him healthy for life.

Right.
 
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Sounds like too much ME to me. Everything in moderation.

MOST of good health is genes. Check out the people in Old Folks Homes. The ones who are healthiest never did anything special. They avoided getting fat. Most never ran a mile or went to the gym in their lives, or tried a vegetarian diet for more than a single meal. Most enjoyed red meat throughout their lives and never gave it a second thought.

The trouble with a strenuous exercise routine (any kind) is that the body wears out. You can't keep it up in the long run. You will start to get pulled muscles, joint problems, and ultimately "minor" injuries that simply never go away. You scale back to what you can do comfortably and leave it at that.

I was a runner for 35 years, and have been a lifelong weightlifter and participant in multiple sports. Now I am 70 years old. I could fill a complete sheet of paper, single spaced, with brief descriptions of all of my minor injuries. Running is out of the question, although I do a lot of strenuous bicycling. I lift weights, stretch, and do body-weight exercises, but in every case, my limit is set by my tolerance for pain, and not maximum strength. My feet hurt, my hands hurt, both my shoulders hurt, both hammies are damaged, although no doctor can tell me exactly how or what to do about it. My knees are OK, but I have to be very careful on stairs since they occasionally give out, and that could lead to serious injury under the wrong circumstances.

It is always entertaining to read some young whippersnapper (is that even a word?) talking about a life routine that he thinks will keep him healthy for life.

Right.
I think running/jogging is very unhealthy, personally. It's probably the major reason for all your issues. Humans never evolved to run at a moderate pace for intermediate distances. They either walked long distances carrying their possessions, or they sprinted away from danger, or after prey. They didn't jog.
It used to drive me flat out crazy in the Army the emphasis they placed on running between 3 and 6 miles, at a 7 to 8:30 min per mile pace, with zero gear...... you will never do that in combat. You will ruck for miles carrying a shit-ton of gear, or you will do 3-5 second rushes to cover when under fire. You will never do a 5 mile run at around 8 minutes per mile wearing shorts and a t-shirt and running shoes in combat, and yet somehow doing so 3 or more days a week at PT will make you combat fit?
Bullshit.

I've also seen at least a dozen instances of senior NCOs (guys in their early to mid 40's) having heart attacks and dying on PT runs, and every time, people talked about how the dead guy in question was always such a great runner. :eusa_think: It seriously makes me wonder if a lifetime of running is a bad idea, because it never seems to improve anyone's long term health, while guys who lift seem to stay stronger and healthier longer (as long as they don't abuse steroids, which is a different issue entirely).

Here you go;
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06Y4LXFCK/?tag=ff0d01-20
Give this a try, maybe you will feel better.
 

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