Georgia audit of voter rolls finds only 20 noncitizens registered to vote

[SweetTea]

Wrong again Skippy
Being registered does not mean you voted

Show where illegals are casting votes

Why are Democrats so opposed to ensuring that legals don't vote? Put on your thinking cap for a minute, if that is possible.

 

[pknopp]

Why are Democrats so opposed to ensuring that legals don't vote? Put on your thinking cap for a minute, if that is possible.

Since they don't, there really isn't anything much to oppose.

 

[rightwinger]

Why are Democrats so opposed to ensuring that legals don't vote? Put on your thinking cap for a minute, if that is possible.

Because it is a nonproblem

Republican remedies to this non problem result in blocking legitimate voters from voting

 

[rightwinger]

Nice to hide behind the concept of the anonymous ballot.

Also, in some States you have restrictions on who can do it.

Ballot harvesting laws by state

Not what I asked

You said it is a major problem. How does someone collecting legitimate ballots from their friends result in fraudulent votes?

 

[martybegan]

Not what I asked

You said it is a major problem. How does someone collecting legitimate ballots from their friends result in fraudulent votes?

The issue is it isn't just that. It's people collecting non-voter ballots and filling them out themselves.

It's people telling others who to vote for.

Are you allowed to bring someone into the voting booth to tell you who to vote for when you vote in person?

 

[pknopp]

The issue is it isn't just that. It's people collecting non-voter ballots and filling them out themselves.

It's people telling others who to vote for.

Are you allowed to bring someone into the voting booth to tell you who to vote for when you vote in person?

Just like with all issues, lawsuits after lawsuits, audits after audits, investigations after investigations and little to nothing.

 

[rightwinger]

The issue is it isn't just that. It's people collecting non-voter ballots and filling them out themselves.

Which is illegal

They can just drop them in a mailbox and it is not harvesting
How does one person dropping off multiple legal ballots result in fraud?

In 2020, everyone in my state voted by mail. I wanted to put mine in a drop box so I would be sure it was collected.
My town did not have drop boxes and the closest drop box was at the County Seat which is 25 miles round trip.

If a friend said they were driving to drop off their ballot and offered to drop off mine, why is that a crime?

 

[martybegan]

Just like with all issues, lawsuits after lawsuits, audits after audits, investigations after investigations and little to nothing.

The thing I can hope for is the cheaters if they are out there have to get lucky all the time, the people looking for them only have to get lucky once.

 

[martybegan]

Which is illegal

They can just drop them in a mailbox and it is not harvesting
How does one person dropping off multiple legal ballots result in fraud?

In 2020, everyone in my state voted by mail. I wanted to put mine in a drop box so I would be sure it was collected.
My town did not have drop boxes and the closest drop box was at the County Seat which is 25 miles round trip.

If a friend said they were driving to drop off their ballot and offered to drop off mine, why is that a crime?

it depends on the State.

And again, the issue is really that in the end we can't be sure who filled out the mail in ballot, or if they were the one even to request it.

 

[rightwinger]

it depends on the State.

And again, the issue is really that in the end we can't be sure who filled out the mail in ballot, or if they were the one even to request it.

There is no evidence that actually happens
All it takes is some person complaining that someone forced them to give them their mail in ballot and they didn’t sign it

What actually happens is someone fills out a legitimate ballot and puts it in an envelope that is barcoded to their registration and signed.

Trump votes by mail.
How can we be sure he actually filled out the ballot or Melania did it for him?

 

[rightwinger]

The thing I can hope for is the cheaters if they are out there have to get lucky all the time, the people looking for them only have to get lucky once.

Very true
Republican observers witness people signing in to vote. They witness the vote counting process. They witness the counting of mail in ballots.

They find nothing and then claim the election was stolen

 

[martybegan]

There is no evidence that actually happens
All it takes is some person complaining that someone forced them to give them their mail in ballot and they didn’t sign it

What actually happens is someone fills out a legitimate ballot and puts it in an envelope that is barcoded to their registration and signed.

Trump votes by mail.
How can we be sure he actually filled out the ballot or Melania did it for him?

That's why I want a 24 hour long 1 day voting period, with election day being a national holiday, and absentee ballots only for detailed reasons, all received prior to election day.

 

[martybegan]

Very true
Republican observers witness people signing in to vote. They witness the vote counting process. They witness the counting of mail in ballots.

They find nothing and then claim the election was stolen

They don't witness the collection and distribution of mail in ballots.

 

[rightwinger]

They don't witness the collection and distribution of mail in ballots.

But when that ballot is returned, it must have a valid bar code and a valid signature.
Legal vote

 

[martybegan]

But when that ballot is returned, it must have a valid bar code and a valid signature.
Legal vote

Unless it was filled out by someone else, or directed by someone else.

That's why we have secret ballots when you vote in person.

 

[rightwinger]

That's why I want a 24 hour long 1 day voting period, with election day being a national holiday, and absentee ballots only for detailed reasons, all received prior to election day.

Why?
Why can’t people vote early if they find it more convenient?
Why can’t people vote from home and mail in a signed ballot?

We need to encourage people to vote and not invoke draconian rules

 

[rightwinger]

Unless it was filled out by someone else, or directed by someone else.

That's why we have secret ballots when you vote in person.

But you have no proof that happens
Like you said, it only takes one…..you got none

The registered voter still needs to sign the envelope. If they were coerced, they have an opportunity to file a complaint.
They don’t.

 

[martybegan]

Why?
Why can’t people vote early if they find it more convenient?
Why can’t people vote from home and mail in a signed ballot?

We need to encourage people to vote and not invoke draconian rules

Because of the methods of cheating I detailed.

Even Snopes has to admit most of Europe only allows remote voting when it is necessary.

Mail-In Voting Is Banned in All These Countries?

 

[martybegan]

But you have no proof that happens
Like you said, it only takes one…..you got none

The registered voter still needs to sign the envelope. If they were coerced, they have an opportunity to file a complaint.
They don’t.

Again, Dems don't want to look, and Republicans haven't been able to nail it down. Yet.

And yet Dems whine that signature verification is voter suppression.

Signed. Sealed. Rejected: Arizona’s system for verifying mail voter identity is flawed, investigation finds

 

[westwall]

Because it is a nonproblem

Republican remedies to this non problem result in blocking legitimate voters from voting

One is a problem. If one has, many have.

DURRRRRR