George W. Bush Visits Fort Hood, Wounded Soldiers

[CurveLight]

And you have falsely claimed that I PRETEND to care about our troops, and totally ignored the post outlining exactly why I care.

******* wanker.

It was you who first claimed I was guilty of partisanship and didn't care about our troops and even after I pointed out I slam bush and obama you didn't have the integrity to admit you fucked up.

My argument against war supporters is they do pretend to care about our Troops. This is not to say they actively hate our Troops or wish harm upon them. I'm merely pointing out their support of the Troops is not genuine and it is found in seeing they care more about defending our occupations rather than ending them. By supporting the occupations war supporters de facto do not have our Troops as the first priority. This is why war supporters always say "Support Our Troops" but really what they mean is "If you don't agree with the occupations and our foreign policies you don't support our troops." It's pure bullshit to equate a Policy with our Troops.

No, your point was directed at me personally - you said I 'PRETEND' to care about our troops. You then ignored it when another poster outlined the reason why I care..... I don't PRETEND to care about our troops - my fiance was one of them you stupid, arrogant, ******* wanker.

When it's a member of your family, come back and tell me I don't ******* care you half witted moron.

Yes it was directed personally towards you....that argument is directed personally at everyone who supports in the invasions and occupations. I also didn't ignore being told you lost your fiance. You obviously don't care what I think so what good would it have done to give my condolences? I didn't say anything else about it because you are no where near ready to have a candid conversation and I am giving you heads up right now....if you open that door don't whine about what happens when you walk through it.

So how many more times will you change the goal posts? At first you told me to shut up on the assumption I never Served. When that doesn't work you then say to shut up on the condition of "unless you've lost a family member." Can you get anymore unAmerican than that?

 

[CurveLight]

Obama did not look like he wanted to be there yesterday.

Now we find out his policies contributed to an air of political correctness in the FBI that has now returned to a similar level to the Clinton years (Pre-9/11). Evidence was ignored or sluffed off, labled as being minor. But as each day passes more comes out and the truth is becoming clearer that this guy was identified as a threat 2 years ago and the investigators were told to back off by unknown officials.

Their primary concern is to make sure that the rest of the Muslims on Ft Hood aren't threatened with any kind of violence in response to the anger this attack has caused.

.

Lol....didn't you just whine about partisanship? I'm sure calligirl will be along to call that out......ooops.....nevermind. You guys are in the DSC.

**** off.

Weren't you complaining about partisanship? When one of your friends does it you don't seem to mind. Not. Shocked.

 

[Cyborgmudhen]

It was you who first claimed I was guilty of partisanship and didn't care about our troops and even after I pointed out I slam bush and obama you didn't have the integrity to admit you fucked up.

My argument against war supporters is they do pretend to care about our Troops. This is not to say they actively hate our Troops or wish harm upon them. I'm merely pointing out their support of the Troops is not genuine and it is found in seeing they care more about defending our occupations rather than ending them. By supporting the occupations war supporters de facto do not have our Troops as the first priority. This is why war supporters always say "Support Our Troops" but really what they mean is "If you don't agree with the occupations and our foreign policies you don't support our troops." It's pure bullshit to equate a Policy with our Troops.

No, your point was directed at me personally - you said I 'PRETEND' to care about our troops. You then ignored it when another poster outlined the reason why I care..... I don't PRETEND to care about our troops - my fiance was one of them you stupid, arrogant, ******* wanker.

When it's a member of your family, come back and tell me I don't ******* care you half witted moron.

Yes it was directed personally towards you....that argument is directed personally at everyone who supports in the invasions and occupations. I also didn't ignore being told you lost your fiance. You obviously don't care what I think so what good would it have done to give my condolences? I didn't say anything else about it because you are no where near ready to have a candid conversation and I am giving you heads up right now....if you open that door don't whine about what happens when you walk through it.

So how many more times will you change the goal posts? At first you told me to shut up on the assumption I never Served. When that doesn't work you then say to shut up on the condition of "unless you've lost a family member." Can you get anymore unAmerican than that?

Cali Girl,

What, exactly, did your fiancee die for ?
Are we safer because of his loss ?
What was accomplished ?
How do you deal with the answers to the above ?
It makes LOTS of sense to me that you'd be less than reasonable about anything approaching a cheapening of a loss so intimately dear to you.
......but it still makes you unreasonable.
Just thought you should know.

 

[Vast LWC]

To all you ******* assholes that are trying to turn this into some kind of political point.

Shut the **** up and have some god-damn respect for the dead.

President Obama and George Bush both went down to Ft Hood to pay their respects to the dead. Like presidents are supposed to do.

In turn, you should pay your respects by not trying to turn their deaths into fodder for the politics mill.

So, with all due respect, SHUT UP.

 

[Cyborgmudhen]

To all you ******* assholes that are trying to turn this into some kind of political point.

Shut the **** up and have some god-damn respect for the dead.

President Obama and George Bush both went down to Ft Hood to pay their respects to the dead. Like presidents are supposed to do.

In turn, you should pay your respects by not trying to turn their deaths into fodder for the politics mill.

So, with all due respect, SHUT UP.

You are off your meds.
Dismissed.

 

[California Girl]

No, your point was directed at me personally - you said I 'PRETEND' to care about our troops. You then ignored it when another poster outlined the reason why I care..... I don't PRETEND to care about our troops - my fiance was one of them you stupid, arrogant, ******* wanker.

When it's a member of your family, come back and tell me I don't ******* care you half witted moron.

Yes it was directed personally towards you....that argument is directed personally at everyone who supports in the invasions and occupations. I also didn't ignore being told you lost your fiance. You obviously don't care what I think so what good would it have done to give my condolences? I didn't say anything else about it because you are no where near ready to have a candid conversation and I am giving you heads up right now....if you open that door don't whine about what happens when you walk through it.

So how many more times will you change the goal posts? At first you told me to shut up on the assumption I never Served. When that doesn't work you then say to shut up on the condition of "unless you've lost a family member." Can you get anymore unAmerican than that?

Cali Girl,

What, exactly, did your fiancee die for ?
Are we safer because of his loss ?
What was accomplished ?
How do you deal with the answers to the above ?
It makes LOTS of sense to me that you'd be less than reasonable about anything approaching a cheapening of a loss so intimately dear to you.
......but it still makes you unreasonable.
Just thought you should know.

**** off.

 

[AllieBaba]

No, your point was directed at me personally - you said I 'PRETEND' to care about our troops. You then ignored it when another poster outlined the reason why I care..... I don't PRETEND to care about our troops - my fiance was one of them you stupid, arrogant, ******* wanker.

When it's a member of your family, come back and tell me I don't ******* care you half witted moron.

Yes it was directed personally towards you....that argument is directed personally at everyone who supports in the invasions and occupations. I also didn't ignore being told you lost your fiance. You obviously don't care what I think so what good would it have done to give my condolences? I didn't say anything else about it because you are no where near ready to have a candid conversation and I am giving you heads up right now....if you open that door don't whine about what happens when you walk through it.

So how many more times will you change the goal posts? At first you told me to shut up on the assumption I never Served. When that doesn't work you then say to shut up on the condition of "unless you've lost a family member." Can you get anymore unAmerican than that?

Cali Girl,

What, exactly, did your fiancee die for ?
Are we safer because of his loss ?
What was accomplished ?
How do you deal with the answers to the above ?
It makes LOTS of sense to me that you'd be less than reasonable about anything approaching a cheapening of a loss so intimately dear to you.
......but it still makes you unreasonable.
Just thought you should know.

What a douche you are.

People do not cease to reason because somebody dies, nor do we negate people who have had loved ones die serving the country and the world, and paying with their lives.

 

[mudwhistle]

Good post, but you know that it does not matter. If they died without health insurance, then they only died because they did not have health insurance.

Immie

Nobody died from not having insurance. Insurance doesn't insure survival.

My guess is they died because they were to injured or sick to live.....not because their coverage sucked. Insurance doesn't make us healthy for your information

You quoted me in that post as if you were telling me something I don't know. You should probably go back and really read what I was saying?

How do you know we have stopped several attacks before they took place? Because the Bush Administration told us so? Because no further attacks have occurred?

I'm sorry, but what you are promoting is thought police, and whether it be a conservative government behind it, or a liberal government behind it, I have a major problem with the idea of someone being arrested for their thoughts or more accurately what we think they must be thinking.

Hell, I could be arrested for some of my thoughts when I look at a picture of a good looking woman!

Immie

Don't talk thought-police bullshit to me. Tea-baggers are current labled possible terrorists by this administration. Returning war vets as well.

The difference between thinking and doing is do you have the motive, the ability, and the opportunity. My guess you only have the motive. Hasan had all three.

So, they should have locked Hasan up for life just because we think he has the motive, he seems to have the ability and he may or may not have the opportunity?

Sorry, but you are talking thought police.

Immie

Sorry, but you're talking political correctness.

What are you retarded? "he may or may not have the opportunity?" Are you fucken daft? All he needed was a large crowd which he could see from his friggen office. And he took full advantage of it.

I think pulling him in for questioning would have possibly diffused his plans.

They didn't have to lock him up.

All they had to do was something instead of nothing....which is what they were ordered to do.

 

[mudwhistle]

Good post, but you know that it does not matter. If they died without health insurance, then they only died because they did not have health insurance.

Immie

Nobody died from not having insurance. Insurance doesn't insure survival.

My guess is they died because they were to injured or sick to live.....not because their coverage sucked. Insurance doesn't make us healthy for your information

Insurance provides a level of quality not afforded to those without insurance which plays a direct role in health overall. On the same token, even those with insurance can get fucked up if their plan does not cover certain tests which can lead to preventative care which again, has a direct impact on healthcare overall.

Thanks for unwittingly making my point for me dumbass.

 

[Newby]

No, your point was directed at me personally - you said I 'PRETEND' to care about our troops. You then ignored it when another poster outlined the reason why I care..... I don't PRETEND to care about our troops - my fiance was one of them you stupid, arrogant, ******* wanker.

When it's a member of your family, come back and tell me I don't ******* care you half witted moron.

Yes it was directed personally towards you....that argument is directed personally at everyone who supports in the invasions and occupations. I also didn't ignore being told you lost your fiance. You obviously don't care what I think so what good would it have done to give my condolences? I didn't say anything else about it because you are no where near ready to have a candid conversation and I am giving you heads up right now....if you open that door don't whine about what happens when you walk through it.

So how many more times will you change the goal posts? At first you told me to shut up on the assumption I never Served. When that doesn't work you then say to shut up on the condition of "unless you've lost a family member." Can you get anymore unAmerican than that?

Cali Girl,

What, exactly, did your fiancee die for ?
Are we safer because of his loss ?
What was accomplished ?
How do you deal with the answers to the above ?
It makes LOTS of sense to me that you'd be less than reasonable about anything approaching a cheapening of a loss so intimately dear to you.
......but it still makes you unreasonable.
Just thought you should know.

These comments are completely pathetic and uncalled for. You should be ashamed of yourself, but assholes like you never are.

 

[California Girl]

.

Lol....didn't you just whine about partisanship? I'm sure calligirl will be along to call that out......ooops.....nevermind. You guys are in the DSC.

**** off.

Weren't you complaining about partisanship? When one of your friends does it you don't seem to mind. Not. Shocked.

I tell you to **** off because you accuse me of PRETENDING to support our troops. You are an arrogant ******* ass. **** OFF.

 

[CurveLight]

Nobody died from not having insurance. Insurance doesn't insure survival.

My guess is they died because they were to injured or sick to live.....not because their coverage sucked. Insurance doesn't make us healthy for your information

You quoted me in that post as if you were telling me something I don't know. You should probably go back and really read what I was saying?

Don't talk thought-police bullshit to me. Tea-baggers are current labled possible terrorists by this administration. Returning war vets as well.

The difference between thinking and doing is do you have the motive, the ability, and the opportunity. My guess you only have the motive. Hasan had all three.

So, they should have locked Hasan up for life just because we think he has the motive, he seems to have the ability and he may or may not have the opportunity?

Sorry, but you are talking thought police.

Immie

Sorry, but you're talking political correctness.

What are you retarded? "he may or may not have the opportunity?" Are you fucken daft? All he needed was a large crowd which he could see from his friggen office. And he took full advantage of it.

I think pulling him in for questioning would have possibly diffused his plans.

They didn't have to lock him up.

All they had to do was something instead of nothing....which is what they were order to do.

You're advocating Minority Report without the pre-Cogs. Shootings by individuals are not preventative all the time and if you strive for that with a law enforcement spearhead approach then you will need to abandon all freedoms and privacy.

 

[CurveLight]

Yes it was directed personally towards you....that argument is directed personally at everyone who supports in the invasions and occupations. I also didn't ignore being told you lost your fiance. You obviously don't care what I think so what good would it have done to give my condolences? I didn't say anything else about it because you are no where near ready to have a candid conversation and I am giving you heads up right now....if you open that door don't whine about what happens when you walk through it.

So how many more times will you change the goal posts? At first you told me to shut up on the assumption I never Served. When that doesn't work you then say to shut up on the condition of "unless you've lost a family member." Can you get anymore unAmerican than that?

Cali Girl,

What, exactly, did your fiancee die for ?
Are we safer because of his loss ?
What was accomplished ?
How do you deal with the answers to the above ?
It makes LOTS of sense to me that you'd be less than reasonable about anything approaching a cheapening of a loss so intimately dear to you.
......but it still makes you unreasonable.
Just thought you should know.

These comments are completely pathetic and uncalled for. You should be ashamed of yourself, but assholes like you never are.

Immature people usually avoid grown up talk and usually just call other people names in threads and rep comments.

 

[mudwhistle]

No, your point was directed at me personally - you said I 'PRETEND' to care about our troops. You then ignored it when another poster outlined the reason why I care..... I don't PRETEND to care about our troops - my fiance was one of them you stupid, arrogant, ******* wanker.

When it's a member of your family, come back and tell me I don't ******* care you half witted moron.

Yes it was directed personally towards you....that argument is directed personally at everyone who supports in the invasions and occupations. I also didn't ignore being told you lost your fiance. You obviously don't care what I think so what good would it have done to give my condolences? I didn't say anything else about it because you are no where near ready to have a candid conversation and I am giving you heads up right now....if you open that door don't whine about what happens when you walk through it.

So how many more times will you change the goal posts? At first you told me to shut up on the assumption I never Served. When that doesn't work you then say to shut up on the condition of "unless you've lost a family member." Can you get anymore unAmerican than that?

Cali Girl,

What, exactly, did your fiancee die for ?
Are we safer because of his loss ?
What was accomplished ?
How do you deal with the answers to the above ?
It makes LOTS of sense to me that you'd be less than reasonable about anything approaching a cheapening of a loss so intimately dear to you.
......but it still makes you unreasonable.
Just thought you should know.

What your post makes you is an insensitive Prick.

For ****'s sake......

You really have no sense of decency to you at all.

Honor their memory with your protests.......my fucken ass.

 

[Immanuel]

Nobody died from not having insurance. Insurance doesn't insure survival.

My guess is they died because they were to injured or sick to live.....not because their coverage sucked. Insurance doesn't make us healthy for your information

You quoted me in that post as if you were telling me something I don't know. You should probably go back and really read what I was saying?

Don't talk thought-police bullshit to me. Tea-baggers are current labled possible terrorists by this administration. Returning war vets as well.

The difference between thinking and doing is do you have the motive, the ability, and the opportunity. My guess you only have the motive. Hasan had all three.

So, they should have locked Hasan up for life just because we think he has the motive, he seems to have the ability and he may or may not have the opportunity?

Sorry, but you are talking thought police.

Immie

Sorry, but you're talking political correctness.

What are you retarded? "he may or may not have the opportunity?" Are you fucken daft? All he needed was a large crowd which he could see from his friggen office. And he took full advantage of it.

I think pulling him in for questioning would have possibly diffused his plans.

They didn't have to lock him up.

All they had to do was something instead of nothing....which is what they were order to do.

I thought they did question him and there is nothing wrong with investigating. My problem with what you have said so far is that you seem to think they could have hauled his ass off to prison simply for having made politically incorrect statements and/or being a muslim.

This was two years before he murdered 13 and wounded 38. What were they supposed to do? What crimes had he committed before hand?

You can't blame law enforcement simply because some wacko went haywire.

Immie

 

[Newby]

Cali Girl,

What, exactly, did your fiancee die for ?
Are we safer because of his loss ?
What was accomplished ?
How do you deal with the answers to the above ?
It makes LOTS of sense to me that you'd be less than reasonable about anything approaching a cheapening of a loss so intimately dear to you.
......but it still makes you unreasonable.
Just thought you should know.

These comments are completely pathetic and uncalled for. You should be ashamed of yourself, but assholes like you never are.

Immature people usually avoid grown up talk and usually just call other people names in threads and rep comments.

Because partisan idiots like you aren't worth my time, you're a complete and utter waste of it.

 

[Cyborgmudhen]

Actually what they could have done was let him get out of the Army like he was trying to do. Instead, they promoted him and lined him up for a deployment.
How'd THAT work out ?
This is an Army personnel policy problem, first and foremost.

 

[mudwhistle]

You quoted me in that post as if you were telling me something I don't know. You should probably go back and really read what I was saying?



So, they should have locked Hasan up for life just because we think he has the motive, he seems to have the ability and he may or may not have the opportunity?

Sorry, but you are talking thought police.

Immie

Sorry, but you're talking political correctness.

What are you retarded? "he may or may not have the opportunity?" Are you fucken daft? All he needed was a large crowd which he could see from his friggen office. And he took full advantage of it.

I think pulling him in for questioning would have possibly diffused his plans.

They didn't have to lock him up.

All they had to do was something instead of nothing....which is what they were order to do.

You're advocating Minority Report without the pre-Cogs. Shootings by individuals are not preventative all the time and if you strive for that with a law enforcement spearhead approach then you will need to abandon all freedoms and privacy.

I'm advocating using common-sense....and acting on probable cause.

It's the fucken law in case you don't know.

 

[California Girl]

It was you who first claimed I was guilty of partisanship and didn't care about our troops and even after I pointed out I slam bush and obama you didn't have the integrity to admit you fucked up.

My argument against war supporters is they do pretend to care about our Troops. This is not to say they actively hate our Troops or wish harm upon them. I'm merely pointing out their support of the Troops is not genuine and it is found in seeing they care more about defending our occupations rather than ending them. By supporting the occupations war supporters de facto do not have our Troops as the first priority. This is why war supporters always say "Support Our Troops" but really what they mean is "If you don't agree with the occupations and our foreign policies you don't support our troops." It's pure bullshit to equate a Policy with our Troops.

No, your point was directed at me personally - you said I 'PRETEND' to care about our troops. You then ignored it when another poster outlined the reason why I care..... I don't PRETEND to care about our troops - my fiance was one of them you stupid, arrogant, ******* wanker.

When it's a member of your family, come back and tell me I don't ******* care you half witted moron.

Yes it was directed personally towards you....that argument is directed personally at everyone who supports in the invasions and occupations. I also didn't ignore being told you lost your fiance. You obviously don't care what I think so what good would it have done to give my condolences? I didn't say anything else about it because you are no where near ready to have a candid conversation and I am giving you heads up right now....if you open that door don't whine about what happens when you walk through it.

So how many more times will you change the goal posts? At first you told me to shut up on the assumption I never Served. When that doesn't work you then say to shut up on the condition of "unless you've lost a family member." Can you get anymore unAmerican than that?

Why would I expect (or want) condolences from an asshole who says I PRETEND to support our troops?

People I love put themselves in harms way at the whim of a POTUS and in defense of this country. Their opinions matter to me. Yours does not. You accused me of PRETENDING to care. You cannot imagine how dispicable I find that comment, you ******* wanker. Your condolenses? You can stick 'em up your ass and light 'em.
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[mudwhistle]

Cali Girl,

What, exactly, did your fiancee die for ?
Are we safer because of his loss ?
What was accomplished ?
How do you deal with the answers to the above ?
It makes LOTS of sense to me that you'd be less than reasonable about anything approaching a cheapening of a loss so intimately dear to you.
......but it still makes you unreasonable.
Just thought you should know.

These comments are completely pathetic and uncalled for. You should be ashamed of yourself, but assholes like you never are.

Immature people usually avoid grown up talk and usually just call other people names in threads and rep comments.

And you claim others are being immature....while you're living in a fantasy world.

Have fun in Disneyland bud.

You pretty much lost the moral highground when you pissed all over a fallen soldiers memory.