Genesis, and Science, Predict Marine Life

[NYcarbineer]

7. So, it does appear that Genesis was precisely correct, and vast numbers of marine creatures appeared.

God’s call to ‘bring forth abundantly’…or perhaps the development of eyes….your choice.

In either case, life at this stage, about 500 million years ago, was entirely marine.

How could the Genesis writer have gotten this right?

]

No. Genesis doesn't get it right:

20 And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.

21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

22 And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth.

23 And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.

Genesis says God created the sea life and the BIRDS on the fifth day. So life was not 'entirely marine' in accord with the time period you cite.

You managed to prove Genesis wrong in its timeline, not right.

I apologize to all for not having caught the above thread killer sooner.

Yes, Genesis says that birds predated all land animals, or put more succinctly,

to the eternal mystery, which came first? the chicken or the dinosaur?

Genesis got it wrong. lol.

So no, Genesis was not, is not in some miraculously astute accord with the later findings of Science.

c'est dommage.

 

[PoliticalChic]

So the parting of the Red Sea was only an embellishment, added by Cecil B. DeMille? I could have sworn I read that in the Bible when I was a lad...

...oh wait, I did.

"And the Lord said to Moses, “Why do you cry to Me? Tell the children of Israel to go forward. But lift up your rod, and stretch out your hand over the sea and divide it. And the children of Israel shall go on dry ground through the midst of the sea...."

So, without objection, point a. above is demolished.

What is demolished is any cashet you might have had in history, theology, or common sense.


Here, the place where Moses and the Hebrews lived during the 40 years of wandering:

1. “It identified the northern Sinai site Ain el-Qudeirat, rather than nearby Ain Kadeis (which had previously been proposed), as the site of Biblical Kadesh-Barnea, where the Hebrews in the Exodus settled and from whence Moses sent men to spy out the land of Canaan (Deuteronomy 1:2, 19, 2:1; Numbers 13:3–21)…. they reasoned that only in the Kossaima district, which includes the sites of Ain el-Qudeirat, Kossaima, Muweilleh and Ain Kadeis, was there enough water and greenery to support a large tribal group. Moreover, Moses, in writing to the King of Edom, described Kadesh as “a city in the uttermost of thy border” (Numbers 20:16), and Lawrence and Woolley thought that the fortifications at Ain el-Qudeirat—assuming, on the basis of pottery, that they dated from the time of Moses—more nearly fit that description than any other site in the Kossaima area.” Lawrence of Arabia as Archaeologist, Stephen E. Tabachnick, BAR 23:05, Sep/Oct 1997 - CojsWiki.

2. Radiocarbon dating of organic remains collected by Bruins and van der Plicht prove Lawrence and Woolley correct.

a. “This identification, which was based on the biblical text, has been universally accepted.” The Fortress at Kadesh-Barnea, Moshe Dothan, Ein el-Qudeirat, 1965 AD

You're denying that Moses and the Israelites crossed the Red Sea? Isn't that a bit demented on your part...

...trying to prove the credibility of the Bible whilst dismissing one of its major accounts as untrue?

You'd appear so much more....normal....if you'd stick to words you can define.

Being in error synonymous with 'demented'?

de·ment·ed
/diˈmentid/
Adjective
Suffering from dementia.
Driven to behave irrationally due to anger, distress, or excitement.
Synonyms
mad - crazy - insane - lunatic - daft



But, of course, I am neither...as Moses traversed the desert for 40 years, and spent some 38 in the location signaled in the previous post.

 

[PoliticalChic]

7. So, it does appear that Genesis was precisely correct, and vast numbers of marine creatures appeared.

God’s call to ‘bring forth abundantly’…or perhaps the development of eyes….your choice.

In either case, life at this stage, about 500 million years ago, was entirely marine.

How could the Genesis writer have gotten this right?

]

No. Genesis doesn't get it right:

20 And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.

21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

22 And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth.

23 And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.

Genesis says God created the sea life and the BIRDS on the fifth day. So life was not 'entirely marine' in accord with the time period you cite.

You managed to prove Genesis wrong in its timeline, not right.

I apologize to all for not having caught the above thread killer sooner.

Yes, Genesis says that birds predated all land animals, or put more succinctly,

to the eternal mystery, which came first? the chicken or the dinosaur?

Genesis got it wrong. lol.

So no, Genesis was not, is not in some miraculously astute accord with the later findings of Science.

c'est dommage.

Oh....did I ruffle your feathers?

Interesting that you focus on birds....as you have so very much in common with same....in relation to the cerebrum.


1. Note this translation of verse 21, (New International Version, 2004): “So God created the great creatures of the sea and every living and moving thing with which the water teems, according to their kinds, and every winged bird according to its kind. And God saw that it was good.” This goes beyond ‘every flora and fauna’ in that it specifies ‘birds.’ Why? Why do birds get special mention?

a. It is appropriate to point out, here, that on the momentous journey on the HMS Beagle, Charles Darwin used his observations of birds, the finches on the Galapagos Islands, actually, the bird’s beaks, in the formulation of his theory of natural selection.

2. Zoologist Andrew Parker, of Oxford, has an explanation, one found in his book “In the Blink of an Eye.” In same, Parker attempt to explain the outburst of myriad new life forms during the ‘Cambrian explosion’ on the development of the first true eye, found in trilobites, 521 million years ago. He writes that, while this made trilobites the ultimate predator, able to see their snacks, it imposed an ‘evolutionary pressure’ on other living things to evolve in all directions as defenses from the trilobites.

3. Parker uses this thesis to further explain the special mention of birds in verse 21, of Genesis. “In evolutionary theory, birds are of particular interest because they are an exception to the rule of vision, …birds are our prime living pointer toward the light switch theory for the cause of the Cambrian explosion….Birds can fly, and so evade the predatory eye.”
Parker, “The Genesis Enigma,” p.166-167.

a. He goes on to posit that ‘birds serve as a message of the power of light and vision on earth today.” By the special recognition of birds, the author of Genesis, indirectly, comments on the importance of the sun….the third allusion to the sun in this chapter.


Now....back to your nest.

 

[NYcarbineer]

What is demolished is any cashet you might have had in history, theology, or common sense.


Here, the place where Moses and the Hebrews lived during the 40 years of wandering:

1. “It identified the northern Sinai site Ain el-Qudeirat, rather than nearby Ain Kadeis (which had previously been proposed), as the site of Biblical Kadesh-Barnea, where the Hebrews in the Exodus settled and from whence Moses sent men to spy out the land of Canaan (Deuteronomy 1:2, 19, 2:1; Numbers 13:3–21)…. they reasoned that only in the Kossaima district, which includes the sites of Ain el-Qudeirat, Kossaima, Muweilleh and Ain Kadeis, was there enough water and greenery to support a large tribal group. Moreover, Moses, in writing to the King of Edom, described Kadesh as “a city in the uttermost of thy border” (Numbers 20:16), and Lawrence and Woolley thought that the fortifications at Ain el-Qudeirat—assuming, on the basis of pottery, that they dated from the time of Moses—more nearly fit that description than any other site in the Kossaima area.” Lawrence of Arabia as Archaeologist, Stephen E. Tabachnick, BAR 23:05, Sep/Oct 1997 - CojsWiki.

2. Radiocarbon dating of organic remains collected by Bruins and van der Plicht prove Lawrence and Woolley correct.

a. “This identification, which was based on the biblical text, has been universally accepted.” The Fortress at Kadesh-Barnea, Moshe Dothan, Ein el-Qudeirat, 1965 AD

You're denying that Moses and the Israelites crossed the Red Sea? Isn't that a bit demented on your part...

...trying to prove the credibility of the Bible whilst dismissing one of its major accounts as untrue?

You'd appear so much more....normal....if you'd stick to words you can define.

Being in error synonymous with 'demented'?

de·ment·ed
/diˈmentid/
Adjective
Suffering from dementia.
Driven to behave irrationally due to anger, distress, or excitement.
Synonyms
mad - crazy - insane - lunatic - daft



But, of course, I am neither...as Moses traversed the desert for 40 years, and spent some 38 in the location signaled in the previous post.

You're trying to make the argument that Moses didn't know what a sea was. That is demented.

 

[NYcarbineer]

No. Genesis doesn't get it right:

20 And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.

21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

22 And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth.

23 And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.

Genesis says God created the sea life and the BIRDS on the fifth day. So life was not 'entirely marine' in accord with the time period you cite.

You managed to prove Genesis wrong in its timeline, not right.

I apologize to all for not having caught the above thread killer sooner.

Yes, Genesis says that birds predated all land animals, or put more succinctly,

to the eternal mystery, which came first? the chicken or the dinosaur?

Genesis got it wrong. lol.

So no, Genesis was not, is not in some miraculously astute accord with the later findings of Science.

c'est dommage.

Oh....did I ruffle your feathers?

Interesting that you focus on birds....as you have so very much in common with same....in relation to the cerebrum.


1. Note this translation of verse 21, (New International Version, 2004): “So God created the great creatures of the sea and every living and moving thing with which the water teems, according to their kinds, and every winged bird according to its kind. And God saw that it was good.” This goes beyond ‘every flora and fauna’ in that it specifies ‘birds.’ Why? Why do birds get special mention?

a. It is appropriate to point out, here, that on the momentous journey on the HMS Beagle, Charles Darwin used his observations of birds, the finches on the Galapagos Islands, actually, the bird’s beaks, in the formulation of his theory of natural selection.

2. Zoologist Andrew Parker, of Oxford, has an explanation, one found in his book “In the Blink of an Eye.” In same, Parker attempt to explain the outburst of myriad new life forms during the ‘Cambrian explosion’ on the development of the first true eye, found in trilobites, 521 million years ago. He writes that, while this made trilobites the ultimate predator, able to see their snacks, it imposed an ‘evolutionary pressure’ on other living things to evolve in all directions as defenses from the trilobites.

3. Parker uses this thesis to further explain the special mention of birds in verse 21, of Genesis. “In evolutionary theory, birds are of particular interest because they are an exception to the rule of vision, …birds are our prime living pointer toward the light switch theory for the cause of the Cambrian explosion….Birds can fly, and so evade the predatory eye.”
Parker, “The Genesis Enigma,” p.166-167.

a. He goes on to posit that ‘birds serve as a message of the power of light and vision on earth today.” By the special recognition of birds, the author of Genesis, indirectly, comments on the importance of the sun….the third allusion to the sun in this chapter.


Now....back to your nest.

None of whatever you said above changes the fact that you wrongly claimed that Genesis cited a period of time when there were only sea creatures,

and you wrongly claimed that Genesis's timeline matched that of current science.

The ridiculous claim in Genesis that birds came before land animals simply reminds us that Genesis is a creation MYTH.

You really need to admit when you're wrong. More importantly, you need to rid yourself of the all too common delusion among rightwing cult members that no one can prove you wrong unless they get you to admit you're wrong.

Such is not the case.

 

[PoliticalChic]

I apologize to all for not having caught the above thread killer sooner.

Yes, Genesis says that birds predated all land animals, or put more succinctly,

to the eternal mystery, which came first? the chicken or the dinosaur?

Genesis got it wrong. lol.

So no, Genesis was not, is not in some miraculously astute accord with the later findings of Science.

c'est dommage.

Oh....did I ruffle your feathers?

Interesting that you focus on birds....as you have so very much in common with same....in relation to the cerebrum.


1. Note this translation of verse 21, (New International Version, 2004): “So God created the great creatures of the sea and every living and moving thing with which the water teems, according to their kinds, and every winged bird according to its kind. And God saw that it was good.” This goes beyond ‘every flora and fauna’ in that it specifies ‘birds.’ Why? Why do birds get special mention?

a. It is appropriate to point out, here, that on the momentous journey on the HMS Beagle, Charles Darwin used his observations of birds, the finches on the Galapagos Islands, actually, the bird’s beaks, in the formulation of his theory of natural selection.

2. Zoologist Andrew Parker, of Oxford, has an explanation, one found in his book “In the Blink of an Eye.” In same, Parker attempt to explain the outburst of myriad new life forms during the ‘Cambrian explosion’ on the development of the first true eye, found in trilobites, 521 million years ago. He writes that, while this made trilobites the ultimate predator, able to see their snacks, it imposed an ‘evolutionary pressure’ on other living things to evolve in all directions as defenses from the trilobites.

3. Parker uses this thesis to further explain the special mention of birds in verse 21, of Genesis. “In evolutionary theory, birds are of particular interest because they are an exception to the rule of vision, …birds are our prime living pointer toward the light switch theory for the cause of the Cambrian explosion….Birds can fly, and so evade the predatory eye.”
Parker, “The Genesis Enigma,” p.166-167.

a. He goes on to posit that ‘birds serve as a message of the power of light and vision on earth today.” By the special recognition of birds, the author of Genesis, indirectly, comments on the importance of the sun….the third allusion to the sun in this chapter.


Now....back to your nest.

None of whatever you said above changes the fact that you wrongly claimed that Genesis cited a period of time when there were only sea creatures,

and you wrongly claimed that Genesis's timeline matched that of current science.

The ridiculous claim in Genesis that birds came before land animals simply reminds us that Genesis is a creation MYTH.

You really need to admit when you're wrong. More importantly, you need to rid yourself of the all too common delusion among rightwing cult members that no one can prove you wrong unless they get you to admit you're wrong.

Such is not the case.

Your misunderstanding does not impinge upon the accuracy of the theory at issue.