gay panic law = not guilty of murder ?!

[harmonica]

you must not pay attention or want to believe the truth---we've been over this before in many threads

YOU are in unreality
here is reality--FACTS = reality....
Blacks commit more crime at much higher rates--why WOULD'NT they be ARRESTED at higher rates???!!!!! ----this is just common sense ---2nd graders know this math
1. please post some details on longer jail sentences
2. they get the same quality defense lawyers as whites that have the same financial class
3. it is beyond doubt, blacks commit murder at much higher rates--over FOUR times the rate of whites--BIG DUH !!!!!!!!!!!!--they will get long sentence for MURDER!!!
..more blacks will be arrested because they commit murder at FOUR times the rate of whites....do you not understand this basic, grade school math?
16% of the youth population but 52%---58.5%--67% commit crime!!!!!!

JESUS christ----and you ask why are they being arrested more???!!!!!?????!!!!
please --if you can---do the math

Document it or shut up.

hahahah--I am the one who has provided the statistics and you have not --
document what?? black privilege?? hahaha --I am saying if blacks claim there is white privilege, there must also be black privilege
..but if you had any brains, you would know I do not believe any has privilege

17 Deplorable Examples Of White Privilege

how freaking stupid
sure --hahah
all you have to do to get a job is be white
just put that on your resume.....
you don't even need skills or education
how STUPID --now that is stupid
I've been rejected for many jobs!!!!!! and I'm WHITE !!!!!!!!

Do you ever actually write in sentences above the first grade level and without using the word stupid? Did you just spit up on yourself??

so you are for gays and black criminals
who do you back in the OP case? the black murderer--who might be gay
or the white gay guy who got murdered ?

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

Do you really want to talk about what is stupid?

o--don't forget black OJ--not guilty--another example of black privilege
o--it's not black privilege?? but when a white gets acquitted--it's white privilege??
what?

Oh common!! OJ is one person. Are you really going to pretend that people of color are not arrested at a higher rate, prosecuted more vigorously and given longer jail sentences than white. What alternative reality are you living in?

**** no! You're the one claiming that there is "black privilege" The burden of proof is on you. I'm not wasting my time on some that anyone with two brain cells to rub together knows

you claimed

, prosecuted more vigorously

black privilege has nothing to do with your claim
now, back it up or your post is worthless crap
hahahaha--you do not see the irony of my post--even though I even explained it you:
...if there is white privilege, there is black privilege--now, do you agree there is white privilege?
..and I'm waiting for you to back up your claim...

This whole thread is worthless crap, like everything that you post

so I proved you wrong on your whining about blacks being arrested
you can't prove blacks are more vigorously prosecuted
most of your posts have been proven with facts/stats/etc as worthless crap

https://www.prisonpolicy.org/scans/vera/race-and-ethnicity-in-prosecution-first-edition.pdf

Conclusion This review found evidence in the body of research discussed above that prosecutorial decision making is associated with racial and ethnic disparities in case outcomes. Most of the 34 studies reviewed here suggest that defendants’ or victims’ race directly or indirectly influence case outcomes, even when a host of other legal and extra-legal factors are taken into account. This is not to suggest, however, that the research shows that prosecutors always treat blacks and Latinos or Latinas more punitively: while a greater number of studies found that minority defendants are more likely to be prosecuted, held in pretrial detention, and to receive other harsh treatment, researchers also found proof of prosecutors treating white defendants more harshly for certain offenses and at certain discretion points. In other words, the research findings vary noticeably by the type of data and analyses used. When drawing conclusions from the characterizations of researchers’ findings presented in this review, readers should consider the following four caveats. First, studies that did not find any differences by race and ethnicity should not be used as evidence for the absence of any discriminatory practices, because data and analytical limitations may have contributed to the absence of findings. Second, many of the studies were based on limited sample sizes in a single or a few jurisdictions that yielded insufficient evidence for supportable generalizations of findings. Third, some studies that suggest that minorities are treated more leniently should be also viewed with an eye toward whether more lenient treatment of blacks and Latinos may stem from a general devaluation of their communities or corrective action by prosecutors in response to aggressive or improper policing practices. Fourth, it is also possible that studies finding differences by race and ethnicity were more likely to be published, and thus are overrepresented in this review.50
Finally, while we made every effort to accurately summarize findings from the 34 studies in this review, we strongly recommend reading the studies in their entirety as they appeared in peer-reviewed journals (see References, p.18).

from your link:

Understanding whether, and to what extent, race and ethnicity affect outcomes at any stage of prosecution is challenging in part because there is no accessible, comprehensive work that summarizes research findings for a broad audience. While academic journal articles have literature review sections, they are designed for other researchers and tend to be technical. Furthermore, most of the work reviewed is available only through academic search engines not open to the general public. This review describes the existing body of empirical research about the impact of prosecutorial discretion on racial and ethnic disparities in the criminal justice system, with an emphasis on the researchers’ findings. Its intent is to inform a diverse audience—including academics, practitioners, and interested generalists—about the current state of the debate on these subjects. In so doing, the authors hope to encourage additional empirical research on the relationship between race and prosecution by identifying areas that need further study; provide prosecutors and other criminal justice practitioners with a frame of reference in which to assess their own practices; and strengthen the general public’s understanding of the criminal justice system. The first section catalogs areas of prosecutorial discretion

1.---..this link is describing the RESEARCH of race and prosecution--not so much the actual staticstics--per the highlighted red quotes---you do see the word ''research'' in red??
...it is mainly talking about the RESEARCH........
if a black doesn't have the $$$$$ for good lawyers--tough shit
it's the SAME as whites who don't have $$$$ for good lawyers

2.---maybe the whites didn't have a long criminal history/didn't use a weapon/etc in the crack-etc crimes !!!!!! do you understand??

3.--you are upset the black criminals did not get as less as sentence as white criminals ??? just like the blacks, you care so much for criminals--awwww--the poor criminals got a long sentence

3A--.--

nvolving crack cocaine and powder cocaine.

https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2010/08/03/data-show-racial-disparity-in-crack-sentencing
!!!!!!!!!hahahahahWTF???? you are upset because the laws for sentencing were FOLLOWED???!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
...the judges were enforcing the laws where the sentencing was different!!!!
so godamn what if the blacks are committing crimes with the DIFFERENT substance
they were CHOOSING to do that!! no one forced them to commit a crime using crack!!
you are upset that criminals were choosing to commit crime with a specific substance, and then they got jailed for it!!!!!!!!!!
a--cry me a river for criminals....you love criminals...poor poor criminals


---

Do you realize that you are rambling and blathering like a drunken fool? Why don't you take a writing course and then get back to me?

 

[Lysistrata]

The "gay panic" defense is so full of shit anyway. Sorry. I'm less than 5'5." I've walked out on an advance or two that I didn't want. It's absurd to think that a grown man can't do this. All of guys who make unwanted advances can't be 6'5" gym rats. The "gay panic" defense may be based on prejudice or hatred, but it certainly is not based on fear. It's so amazing that so many straight guys get by with murder by being Big Drama Mamas.

 

[AsianTrumpSupporter]

I'd like a commie panic defense law. After all, my grandfather on my dad's side escaped communism by fleeing North Korea when Chinese tanks invaded. I was born this way, so don't blame me if I panic and assault a commie.

 

[harmonica]

o--don't forget black OJ--not guilty--another example of black privilege
o--it's not black privilege?? but when a white gets acquitted--it's white privilege??
what?

Oh common!! OJ is one person. Are you really going to pretend that people of color are not arrested at a higher rate, prosecuted more vigorously and given longer jail sentences than white. What alternative reality are you living in?

you claimed black privilege has nothing to do with your claim
now, back it up or your post is worthless crap
hahahaha--you do not see the irony of my post--even though I even explained it you:
...if there is white privilege, there is black privilege--now, do you agree there is white privilege?
..and I'm waiting for you to back up your claim...

This whole thread is worthless crap, like everything that you post

so I proved you wrong on your whining about blacks being arrested
you can't prove blacks are more vigorously prosecuted
most of your posts have been proven with facts/stats/etc as worthless crap

https://www.prisonpolicy.org/scans/vera/race-and-ethnicity-in-prosecution-first-edition.pdf

Conclusion This review found evidence in the body of research discussed above that prosecutorial decision making is associated with racial and ethnic disparities in case outcomes. Most of the 34 studies reviewed here suggest that defendants’ or victims’ race directly or indirectly influence case outcomes, even when a host of other legal and extra-legal factors are taken into account. This is not to suggest, however, that the research shows that prosecutors always treat blacks and Latinos or Latinas more punitively: while a greater number of studies found that minority defendants are more likely to be prosecuted, held in pretrial detention, and to receive other harsh treatment, researchers also found proof of prosecutors treating white defendants more harshly for certain offenses and at certain discretion points. In other words, the research findings vary noticeably by the type of data and analyses used. When drawing conclusions from the characterizations of researchers’ findings presented in this review, readers should consider the following four caveats. First, studies that did not find any differences by race and ethnicity should not be used as evidence for the absence of any discriminatory practices, because data and analytical limitations may have contributed to the absence of findings. Second, many of the studies were based on limited sample sizes in a single or a few jurisdictions that yielded insufficient evidence for supportable generalizations of findings. Third, some studies that suggest that minorities are treated more leniently should be also viewed with an eye toward whether more lenient treatment of blacks and Latinos may stem from a general devaluation of their communities or corrective action by prosecutors in response to aggressive or improper policing practices. Fourth, it is also possible that studies finding differences by race and ethnicity were more likely to be published, and thus are overrepresented in this review.50
Finally, while we made every effort to accurately summarize findings from the 34 studies in this review, we strongly recommend reading the studies in their entirety as they appeared in peer-reviewed journals (see References, p.18).

from your link:

Understanding whether, and to what extent, race and ethnicity affect outcomes at any stage of prosecution is challenging in part because there is no accessible, comprehensive work that summarizes research findings for a broad audience. While academic journal articles have literature review sections, they are designed for other researchers and tend to be technical. Furthermore, most of the work reviewed is available only through academic search engines not open to the general public. This review describes the existing body of empirical research about the impact of prosecutorial discretion on racial and ethnic disparities in the criminal justice system, with an emphasis on the researchers’ findings. Its intent is to inform a diverse audience—including academics, practitioners, and interested generalists—about the current state of the debate on these subjects. In so doing, the authors hope to encourage additional empirical research on the relationship between race and prosecution by identifying areas that need further study; provide prosecutors and other criminal justice practitioners with a frame of reference in which to assess their own practices; and strengthen the general public’s understanding of the criminal justice system. The first section catalogs areas of prosecutorial discretion

1.---..this link is describing the RESEARCH of race and prosecution--not so much the actual staticstics--per the highlighted red quotes---you do see the word ''research'' in red??
...it is mainly talking about the RESEARCH........
if a black doesn't have the $$$$$ for good lawyers--tough shit
it's the SAME as whites who don't have $$$$ for good lawyers

2.---maybe the whites didn't have a long criminal history/didn't use a weapon/etc in the crack-etc crimes !!!!!! do you understand??

3.--you are upset the black criminals did not get as less as sentence as white criminals ??? just like the blacks, you care so much for criminals--awwww--the poor criminals got a long sentence

3A--.--

nvolving crack cocaine and powder cocaine.

https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2010/08/03/data-show-racial-disparity-in-crack-sentencing
!!!!!!!!!hahahahahWTF???? you are upset because the laws for sentencing were FOLLOWED???!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
...the judges were enforcing the laws where the sentencing was different!!!!
so godamn what if the blacks are committing crimes with the DIFFERENT substance
they were CHOOSING to do that!! no one forced them to commit a crime using crack!!
you are upset that criminals were choosing to commit crime with a specific substance, and then they got jailed for it!!!!!!!!!!
a--cry me a river for criminals....you love criminals...poor poor criminals


---

Do you realize that you are rambling and blathering like a drunken fool? Why don't you take a writing course and then get back to me?

actually my points are organized/in order/etc more than yours

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

Oh common!! OJ is one person. Are you really going to pretend that people of color are not arrested at a higher rate, prosecuted more vigorously and given longer jail sentences than white. What alternative reality are you living in?

This whole thread is worthless crap, like everything that you post

so I proved you wrong on your whining about blacks being arrested
you can't prove blacks are more vigorously prosecuted
most of your posts have been proven with facts/stats/etc as worthless crap

https://www.prisonpolicy.org/scans/vera/race-and-ethnicity-in-prosecution-first-edition.pdf

Conclusion This review found evidence in the body of research discussed above that prosecutorial decision making is associated with racial and ethnic disparities in case outcomes. Most of the 34 studies reviewed here suggest that defendants’ or victims’ race directly or indirectly influence case outcomes, even when a host of other legal and extra-legal factors are taken into account. This is not to suggest, however, that the research shows that prosecutors always treat blacks and Latinos or Latinas more punitively: while a greater number of studies found that minority defendants are more likely to be prosecuted, held in pretrial detention, and to receive other harsh treatment, researchers also found proof of prosecutors treating white defendants more harshly for certain offenses and at certain discretion points. In other words, the research findings vary noticeably by the type of data and analyses used. When drawing conclusions from the characterizations of researchers’ findings presented in this review, readers should consider the following four caveats. First, studies that did not find any differences by race and ethnicity should not be used as evidence for the absence of any discriminatory practices, because data and analytical limitations may have contributed to the absence of findings. Second, many of the studies were based on limited sample sizes in a single or a few jurisdictions that yielded insufficient evidence for supportable generalizations of findings. Third, some studies that suggest that minorities are treated more leniently should be also viewed with an eye toward whether more lenient treatment of blacks and Latinos may stem from a general devaluation of their communities or corrective action by prosecutors in response to aggressive or improper policing practices. Fourth, it is also possible that studies finding differences by race and ethnicity were more likely to be published, and thus are overrepresented in this review.50
Finally, while we made every effort to accurately summarize findings from the 34 studies in this review, we strongly recommend reading the studies in their entirety as they appeared in peer-reviewed journals (see References, p.18).

from your link:

Understanding whether, and to what extent, race and ethnicity affect outcomes at any stage of prosecution is challenging in part because there is no accessible, comprehensive work that summarizes research findings for a broad audience. While academic journal articles have literature review sections, they are designed for other researchers and tend to be technical. Furthermore, most of the work reviewed is available only through academic search engines not open to the general public. This review describes the existing body of empirical research about the impact of prosecutorial discretion on racial and ethnic disparities in the criminal justice system, with an emphasis on the researchers’ findings. Its intent is to inform a diverse audience—including academics, practitioners, and interested generalists—about the current state of the debate on these subjects. In so doing, the authors hope to encourage additional empirical research on the relationship between race and prosecution by identifying areas that need further study; provide prosecutors and other criminal justice practitioners with a frame of reference in which to assess their own practices; and strengthen the general public’s understanding of the criminal justice system. The first section catalogs areas of prosecutorial discretion

1.---..this link is describing the RESEARCH of race and prosecution--not so much the actual staticstics--per the highlighted red quotes---you do see the word ''research'' in red??
...it is mainly talking about the RESEARCH........
if a black doesn't have the $$$$$ for good lawyers--tough shit
it's the SAME as whites who don't have $$$$ for good lawyers

2.---maybe the whites didn't have a long criminal history/didn't use a weapon/etc in the crack-etc crimes !!!!!! do you understand??

3.--you are upset the black criminals did not get as less as sentence as white criminals ??? just like the blacks, you care so much for criminals--awwww--the poor criminals got a long sentence

3A--.--

nvolving crack cocaine and powder cocaine.

https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2010/08/03/data-show-racial-disparity-in-crack-sentencing
!!!!!!!!!hahahahahWTF???? you are upset because the laws for sentencing were FOLLOWED???!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
...the judges were enforcing the laws where the sentencing was different!!!!
so godamn what if the blacks are committing crimes with the DIFFERENT substance
they were CHOOSING to do that!! no one forced them to commit a crime using crack!!
you are upset that criminals were choosing to commit crime with a specific substance, and then they got jailed for it!!!!!!!!!!
a--cry me a river for criminals....you love criminals...poor poor criminals


---

Do you realize that you are rambling and blathering like a drunken fool? Why don't you take a writing course and then get back to me?

actually my points are organized/in order/etc more than yours

 

[Lysistrata]

I've been a heterosexual all of my life, even when I was under ten years old, I was debating with my friends who was the cutest GUY on TV and didn't have the faintest clue as to sex in general. So I am a heterosexual by birth, not as some sort of political statement. If I were a lesbian, I would have no problem telling with telling anyone. I've had women, maybe three times, ask me if I was interested in something else. I wasn't as I have never felt the attraction for a woman (some men, on the other hand!!! and I emphasize SOME), but I always understood that these overtures were a compliment. Someone found me nice and attractive. This is a good thing. I thanked them for the compliment and treated them gently. What they said to me took a lot of guts. There was never any reason for any hostility or violence. They remain good people. I would never treat them otherwise.

 

[harmonica]

so I proved you wrong on your whining about blacks being arrested
you can't prove blacks are more vigorously prosecuted
most of your posts have been proven with facts/stats/etc as worthless crap

https://www.prisonpolicy.org/scans/vera/race-and-ethnicity-in-prosecution-first-edition.pdf

Conclusion This review found evidence in the body of research discussed above that prosecutorial decision making is associated with racial and ethnic disparities in case outcomes. Most of the 34 studies reviewed here suggest that defendants’ or victims’ race directly or indirectly influence case outcomes, even when a host of other legal and extra-legal factors are taken into account. This is not to suggest, however, that the research shows that prosecutors always treat blacks and Latinos or Latinas more punitively: while a greater number of studies found that minority defendants are more likely to be prosecuted, held in pretrial detention, and to receive other harsh treatment, researchers also found proof of prosecutors treating white defendants more harshly for certain offenses and at certain discretion points. In other words, the research findings vary noticeably by the type of data and analyses used. When drawing conclusions from the characterizations of researchers’ findings presented in this review, readers should consider the following four caveats. First, studies that did not find any differences by race and ethnicity should not be used as evidence for the absence of any discriminatory practices, because data and analytical limitations may have contributed to the absence of findings. Second, many of the studies were based on limited sample sizes in a single or a few jurisdictions that yielded insufficient evidence for supportable generalizations of findings. Third, some studies that suggest that minorities are treated more leniently should be also viewed with an eye toward whether more lenient treatment of blacks and Latinos may stem from a general devaluation of their communities or corrective action by prosecutors in response to aggressive or improper policing practices. Fourth, it is also possible that studies finding differences by race and ethnicity were more likely to be published, and thus are overrepresented in this review.50
Finally, while we made every effort to accurately summarize findings from the 34 studies in this review, we strongly recommend reading the studies in their entirety as they appeared in peer-reviewed journals (see References, p.18).

from your link:

Understanding whether, and to what extent, race and ethnicity affect outcomes at any stage of prosecution is challenging in part because there is no accessible, comprehensive work that summarizes research findings for a broad audience. While academic journal articles have literature review sections, they are designed for other researchers and tend to be technical. Furthermore, most of the work reviewed is available only through academic search engines not open to the general public. This review describes the existing body of empirical research about the impact of prosecutorial discretion on racial and ethnic disparities in the criminal justice system, with an emphasis on the researchers’ findings. Its intent is to inform a diverse audience—including academics, practitioners, and interested generalists—about the current state of the debate on these subjects. In so doing, the authors hope to encourage additional empirical research on the relationship between race and prosecution by identifying areas that need further study; provide prosecutors and other criminal justice practitioners with a frame of reference in which to assess their own practices; and strengthen the general public’s understanding of the criminal justice system. The first section catalogs areas of prosecutorial discretion

1.---..this link is describing the RESEARCH of race and prosecution--not so much the actual staticstics--per the highlighted red quotes---you do see the word ''research'' in red??
...it is mainly talking about the RESEARCH........
if a black doesn't have the $$$$$ for good lawyers--tough shit
it's the SAME as whites who don't have $$$$ for good lawyers

2.---maybe the whites didn't have a long criminal history/didn't use a weapon/etc in the crack-etc crimes !!!!!! do you understand??

3.--you are upset the black criminals did not get as less as sentence as white criminals ??? just like the blacks, you care so much for criminals--awwww--the poor criminals got a long sentence

3A--.--

nvolving crack cocaine and powder cocaine.

https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2010/08/03/data-show-racial-disparity-in-crack-sentencing
!!!!!!!!!hahahahahWTF???? you are upset because the laws for sentencing were FOLLOWED???!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
...the judges were enforcing the laws where the sentencing was different!!!!
so godamn what if the blacks are committing crimes with the DIFFERENT substance
they were CHOOSING to do that!! no one forced them to commit a crime using crack!!
you are upset that criminals were choosing to commit crime with a specific substance, and then they got jailed for it!!!!!!!!!!
a--cry me a river for criminals....you love criminals...poor poor criminals


---

Do you realize that you are rambling and blathering like a drunken fool? Why don't you take a writing course and then get back to me?

actually my points are organized/in order/etc more than yours

hahhahah
I'm backing the gay guy---and I thought you were the big LGTBQ lover
now, you are anti-gay?

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

https://www.prisonpolicy.org/scans/vera/race-and-ethnicity-in-prosecution-first-edition.pdf

Conclusion This review found evidence in the body of research discussed above that prosecutorial decision making is associated with racial and ethnic disparities in case outcomes. Most of the 34 studies reviewed here suggest that defendants’ or victims’ race directly or indirectly influence case outcomes, even when a host of other legal and extra-legal factors are taken into account. This is not to suggest, however, that the research shows that prosecutors always treat blacks and Latinos or Latinas more punitively: while a greater number of studies found that minority defendants are more likely to be prosecuted, held in pretrial detention, and to receive other harsh treatment, researchers also found proof of prosecutors treating white defendants more harshly for certain offenses and at certain discretion points. In other words, the research findings vary noticeably by the type of data and analyses used. When drawing conclusions from the characterizations of researchers’ findings presented in this review, readers should consider the following four caveats. First, studies that did not find any differences by race and ethnicity should not be used as evidence for the absence of any discriminatory practices, because data and analytical limitations may have contributed to the absence of findings. Second, many of the studies were based on limited sample sizes in a single or a few jurisdictions that yielded insufficient evidence for supportable generalizations of findings. Third, some studies that suggest that minorities are treated more leniently should be also viewed with an eye toward whether more lenient treatment of blacks and Latinos may stem from a general devaluation of their communities or corrective action by prosecutors in response to aggressive or improper policing practices. Fourth, it is also possible that studies finding differences by race and ethnicity were more likely to be published, and thus are overrepresented in this review.50
Finally, while we made every effort to accurately summarize findings from the 34 studies in this review, we strongly recommend reading the studies in their entirety as they appeared in peer-reviewed journals (see References, p.18).

from your link:

Understanding whether, and to what extent, race and ethnicity affect outcomes at any stage of prosecution is challenging in part because there is no accessible, comprehensive work that summarizes research findings for a broad audience. While academic journal articles have literature review sections, they are designed for other researchers and tend to be technical. Furthermore, most of the work reviewed is available only through academic search engines not open to the general public. This review describes the existing body of empirical research about the impact of prosecutorial discretion on racial and ethnic disparities in the criminal justice system, with an emphasis on the researchers’ findings. Its intent is to inform a diverse audience—including academics, practitioners, and interested generalists—about the current state of the debate on these subjects. In so doing, the authors hope to encourage additional empirical research on the relationship between race and prosecution by identifying areas that need further study; provide prosecutors and other criminal justice practitioners with a frame of reference in which to assess their own practices; and strengthen the general public’s understanding of the criminal justice system. The first section catalogs areas of prosecutorial discretion

1.---..this link is describing the RESEARCH of race and prosecution--not so much the actual staticstics--per the highlighted red quotes---you do see the word ''research'' in red??
...it is mainly talking about the RESEARCH........
if a black doesn't have the $$$$$ for good lawyers--tough shit
it's the SAME as whites who don't have $$$$ for good lawyers

2.---maybe the whites didn't have a long criminal history/didn't use a weapon/etc in the crack-etc crimes !!!!!! do you understand??

3.--you are upset the black criminals did not get as less as sentence as white criminals ??? just like the blacks, you care so much for criminals--awwww--the poor criminals got a long sentence

3A--.--

nvolving crack cocaine and powder cocaine.

https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2010/08/03/data-show-racial-disparity-in-crack-sentencing
!!!!!!!!!hahahahahWTF???? you are upset because the laws for sentencing were FOLLOWED???!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
...the judges were enforcing the laws where the sentencing was different!!!!
so godamn what if the blacks are committing crimes with the DIFFERENT substance
they were CHOOSING to do that!! no one forced them to commit a crime using crack!!
you are upset that criminals were choosing to commit crime with a specific substance, and then they got jailed for it!!!!!!!!!!
a--cry me a river for criminals....you love criminals...poor poor criminals


---

Do you realize that you are rambling and blathering like a drunken fool? Why don't you take a writing course and then get back to me?

actually my points are organized/in order/etc more than yours

hahhahah
I'm backing the gay guy---and I thought you were the big LGTBQ lover
now, you are anti-gay?

I'm also baking the gay guy but you can't seem to grasp that . You're backing the white guy. I thought you were the big anti LGBT guy. Still do. You're just more of a racial bigot that a sexual orientation bigot

 

[harmonica]

from your link:
1.---..this link is describing the RESEARCH of race and prosecution--not so much the actual staticstics--per the highlighted red quotes---you do see the word ''research'' in red??
...it is mainly talking about the RESEARCH........
if a black doesn't have the $$$$$ for good lawyers--tough shit
it's the SAME as whites who don't have $$$$ for good lawyers

2.---maybe the whites didn't have a long criminal history/didn't use a weapon/etc in the crack-etc crimes !!!!!! do you understand??

3.--you are upset the black criminals did not get as less as sentence as white criminals ??? just like the blacks, you care so much for criminals--awwww--the poor criminals got a long sentence

3A--.--https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2010/08/03/data-show-racial-disparity-in-crack-sentencing
!!!!!!!!!hahahahahWTF???? you are upset because the laws for sentencing were FOLLOWED???!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
...the judges were enforcing the laws where the sentencing was different!!!!
so godamn what if the blacks are committing crimes with the DIFFERENT substance
they were CHOOSING to do that!! no one forced them to commit a crime using crack!!
you are upset that criminals were choosing to commit crime with a specific substance, and then they got jailed for it!!!!!!!!!!
a--cry me a river for criminals....you love criminals...poor poor criminals


---

Do you realize that you are rambling and blathering like a drunken fool? Why don't you take a writing course and then get back to me?

actually my points are organized/in order/etc more than yours

hahhahah
I'm backing the gay guy---and I thought you were the big LGTBQ lover
now, you are anti-gay?

You're backing the white guy. I thought you were the big anti LGBT guy. Still do. You're just more of a racial bigot that a sexual orientation bigot

but I'm backing the gay guy--how can I be a LGTBQ bigot?

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

Do you realize that you are rambling and blathering like a drunken fool? Why don't you take a writing course and then get back to me?

actually my points are organized/in order/etc more than yours

hahhahah
I'm backing the gay guy---and I thought you were the big LGTBQ lover
now, you are anti-gay?

You're backing the white guy. I thought you were the big anti LGBT guy. Still do. You're just more of a racial bigot that a sexual orientation bigot

but I'm backing the gay guy--how can I be a LGTBQ bigot?

Jesus ******* Christ!! Are you for real?

 

[harmonica]

actually my points are organized/in order/etc more than yours

hahhahah
I'm backing the gay guy---and I thought you were the big LGTBQ lover
now, you are anti-gay?

You're backing the white guy. I thought you were the big anti LGBT guy. Still do. You're just more of a racial bigot that a sexual orientation bigot

but I'm backing the gay guy--how can I be a LGTBQ bigot?

Jesus ******* Christ!! Are you for real?

by the way, please prove I'm a bigot
here--you better learn what a bigot is first--
big·ot
ˈbiɡət/
noun

1. a person who is intolerant toward those holding different opinions.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

hahhahah
I'm backing the gay guy---and I thought you were the big LGTBQ lover
now, you are anti-gay?

You're backing the white guy. I thought you were the big anti LGBT guy. Still do. You're just more of a racial bigot that a sexual orientation bigot

but I'm backing the gay guy--how can I be a LGTBQ bigot?

Jesus ******* Christ!! Are you for real?

by the way, please prove I'm a bigot
here--you better learn what a bigot is first--
big·ot
ˈbiɡət/
noun

1. a person who is intolerant toward those holding different opinions.

Thank you for proving that you are the bigot. I'm not intolerant of people holding different opinions. You can think whatever the **** you want- as stupid as it might be. I am intolerant of people who are intolerant of others differently because of who and what they are. I am intolerant of those who treat others differently because of who and what they are.

Far-Right Legal Orgs Object to 'Hate Group' Label, But It Fits

Those on the extreme right love to accuse the liberals and progressive of being hateful and intolerant but they are either willfully lying, or in denial, projecting their own hatred, and not in touch with reality.


They can say that we are hateful, bigoted, or intolerant all they wish. But let me sum up the difference between them and us. We do indeed have a problem with people who are hateful towards others simply because they do not approve of them or do not understand them. We are not tolerant of people who are on a mission to make life miserable for others in the name of ideology. We are not tolerant of the selfish and greedy who kick those who are less fortunate and struggling to get by, to the curb, so that they and their donors can have even more. We have a problem- and you can call it hateful if you wish- with people who arbitrarily and capriciously chose to marginalize, demean and deprive others of the rights that they take for granted.

We have a problem with people who discriminate and incite violence against others who they do not like, do not understand, or are threatened by them in some vague way. The same goes for vilify the poor, immigrants and with those of other ethnic groups and religions.

In summary, the rights intolerance is driven by hate, greed and ideology . All intolerance is not equal.

Anyone who has hatred and intolerance directed at them- whether it be subtle or overt, verbal or physical, in private or in the public/ political arena has the right to respond proportionately. If that response is portrayed or characterized as hatred so be it. But, know this all hatred and intolerance is not equal. Consider the following:

https://www.advocate.com/politics/2017/7/17/far-right-legal-orgs-object-hate-group-label-it-fits

Officials with the Alliance Defending Freedom and Liberty Counsel say their organizations aren’t anti-LGBT “hate groups,” as labeled by the Southern Poverty Law Center — but the SPLC says the designation definitely fits.

Both are right-wing legal organizations that represent mostly fundamentalist Christian clients, including many who are anti-LGBT and/or anti-abortion. ADF, which last week hosted a closed-door speech by Attorney General Jeff Sessions, objected to ABC News calling it a hate group in coverage of the matter. It has asked ABC to apologize.

The SPLC, however, says the shoe fits in both cases.

Regarding ADF, SPLC president Richard Cohen released this statement: "The Alliance Defending Freedom spreads demonizing lies about the LGBT community in this country and seeks to criminalize it abroad. If the ADF had its way, gay people would be back in the closet for fear of going to jail. It was inappropriate for Attorney General Sessions to lend his credibility to the group by appearing before it, and it was ironic that he would suggest that the rights of ADF sympathizers are under attack when the ADF is doing everything in its power to deny the equal protection of the laws to the LGBT community."

On Liberty Counsel, Cohen said, "We stand ready to support our designation of Liberty Counsel as a hate group. Liberty Counsel is a group that has consistently called LGBT people 'immoral, unnatural and self-destructive.' It has a track record of attempting to criminalize homosexual conduct and to legalize discrimination against the LGBT community. There is nothing 'pro-family' about dehumanizing LGBT people. This lawsuit and other recent attacks against GuideStar are simply attempts to distract the public from Liberty Counsel’s hateful agenda."

 

[Muhammed]

Elderly 69 year old man is invited over to a neighbors house to play music, then the 30 something yo ***, 8 inches taller than himself puts the moves on him...

Old man pulls a blade in defense.

And doesn't end up a sculpture in Tony Podesta's living room...

Democrats are some ******* creepy people.

 

[Montrovant]

Elderly 69 year old man is invited over to a neighbors house to play music, then the 30 something yo ***, 8 inches taller than himself puts the moves on him...

Old man pulls a blade in defense.

And doesn't end up a sculpture in Tony Podesta's living room...

Democrats are some ******* creepy people.

So you're in the camp that thinks someone "putting the moves" on you requires self defense?

 

[Silhouette]

So you're in the camp that thinks someone "putting the moves" on you requires self defense?

With hetero dudes it's a visceral thing. In the animal kingdom across all species, one male attempting to mock-mate with another is the first sign of aggression that usually leads to a fight to the death. It's in their DNA. Hetero men are born that way. Respect their orientation.

 

[Montrovant]

So you're in the camp that thinks someone "putting the moves" on you requires self defense?

With hetero dudes it's a visceral thing. In the animal kingdom across all species, one male attempting to mock-mate with another is the first sign of aggression that usually leads to a fight to the death. It's in their DNA. Hetero men are born that way. Respect their orientation.

You are hilarious.

 

[harmonica]

hahhahah
I'm backing the gay guy---and I thought you were the big LGTBQ lover
now, you are anti-gay?

You're backing the white guy. I thought you were the big anti LGBT guy. Still do. You're just more of a racial bigot that a sexual orientation bigot

but I'm backing the gay guy--how can I be a LGTBQ bigot?

Jesus ******* Christ!! Are you for real?

by the way, please prove I'm a bigot
here--you better learn what a bigot is first--
big·ot
ˈbiɡət/
noun

1. a person who is intolerant toward those holding different opinions.

Thank you for proving that you are the bigot. I'm not intolerant of people holding different opinions. You can think whatever the **** you want- as stupid as it might be. I am intolerant of people who are intolerant of others differently because of who and what they are. I am intolerant of those who treat others differently because of who and what they are.

Far-Right Legal Orgs Object to 'Hate Group' Label, But It Fits

Those on the extreme right love to accuse the liberals and progressive of being hateful and intolerant but they are either willfully lying, or in denial, projecting their own hatred, and not in touch with reality.


They can say that we are hateful, bigoted, or intolerant all they wish. But let me sum up the difference between them and us. We do indeed have a problem with people who are hateful towards others simply because they do not approve of them or do not understand them. We are not tolerant of people who are on a mission to make life miserable for others in the name of ideology. We are not tolerant of the selfish and greedy who kick those who are less fortunate and struggling to get by, to the curb, so that they and their donors can have even more. We have a problem- and you can call it hateful if you wish- with people who arbitrarily and capriciously chose to marginalize, demean and deprive others of the rights that they take for granted.

We have a problem with people who discriminate and incite violence against others who they do not like, do not understand, or are threatened by them in some vague way. The same goes for vilify the poor, immigrants and with those of other ethnic groups and religions.

In summary, the rights intolerance is driven by hate, greed and ideology . All intolerance is not equal.

Anyone who has hatred and intolerance directed at them- whether it be subtle or overt, verbal or physical, in private or in the public/ political arena has the right to respond proportionately. If that response is portrayed or characterized as hatred so be it. But, know this all hatred and intolerance is not equal. Consider the following:

https://www.advocate.com/politics/2017/7/17/far-right-legal-orgs-object-hate-group-label-it-fits

Officials with the Alliance Defending Freedom and Liberty Counsel say their organizations aren’t anti-LGBT “hate groups,” as labeled by the Southern Poverty Law Center — but the SPLC says the designation definitely fits.

Both are right-wing legal organizations that represent mostly fundamentalist Christian clients, including many who are anti-LGBT and/or anti-abortion. ADF, which last week hosted a closed-door speech by Attorney General Jeff Sessions, objected to ABC News calling it a hate group in coverage of the matter. It has asked ABC to apologize.

The SPLC, however, says the shoe fits in both cases.

Regarding ADF, SPLC president Richard Cohen released this statement: "The Alliance Defending Freedom spreads demonizing lies about the LGBT community in this country and seeks to criminalize it abroad. If the ADF had its way, gay people would be back in the closet for fear of going to jail. It was inappropriate for Attorney General Sessions to lend his credibility to the group by appearing before it, and it was ironic that he would suggest that the rights of ADF sympathizers are under attack when the ADF is doing everything in its power to deny the equal protection of the laws to the LGBT community."

On Liberty Counsel, Cohen said, "We stand ready to support our designation of Liberty Counsel as a hate group. Liberty Counsel is a group that has consistently called LGBT people 'immoral, unnatural and self-destructive.' It has a track record of attempting to criminalize homosexual conduct and to legalize discrimination against the LGBT community. There is nothing 'pro-family' about dehumanizing LGBT people. This lawsuit and other recent attacks against GuideStar are simply attempts to distract the public from Liberty Counsel’s hateful agenda."

so you are intolerant AND tolerant....???!! what??

 

[TheParser]

If the "Gay Panic" defense is acceptable, how about the "Straight Panic" defense?

That is to say, a gay man is so repulsed by a woman's suddenly kissing him that he murders her.

Will he also just get probation and a few months in jail?

 

[harmonica]

If the "Gay Panic" defense is acceptable, how about the "Straight Panic" defense?

That is to say, a gay man is so repulsed by a woman's suddenly kissing him that he murders her.

Will he also just get probation and a few months in jail?

....some time ago, I think on the Jenny Jones show, they surprised a straight guy with a gay guy who liked him on national TV...3 days later, the straight guy murdered the gay guy
....embarrassed /etc on national TV--I'd say that's a good defense for insanity/panic/etc
'Jenny Jones' guest who killed admirer set for release | Daily Mail Online