JoeB131
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Grow a sense of humor, that was funny...
Gawd...Southern GOP is embarrassing the region EVEN MORE! Seccession? REALLY?
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Grow a sense of humor, that was funny...
The Infidel
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How cowardly
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The Infidel
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No, not really... It was very unclassy & low brow for a presidential election.
It also shows the hypocrisy you guys seem to exhibit very often.
bucs90
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In yesterday's readers comment section of the Charleston paper, a guy wrote a letter to his son (sarcasm) in which he said his son would have a future to look forward to in which "The USA could no longer send aid to foreign countries, but would be stuck having to spend it on people right here".
He was saying it like its a bad thing. And I thought....what a concept! Spend our money on OUR people. Guess right wingers are ok with the govt spending money on the poor....as long as the poor dont live in America.
He was saying it like its a bad thing. And I thought....what a concept! Spend our money on OUR people. Guess right wingers are ok with the govt spending money on the poor....as long as the poor dont live in America.
CrusaderFrank
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You make less and less sense with every post. Your latest puts you solidly in FrancoWTF territory.
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There are secession petitions in all 50 states. Hardly a southern thing.
Though it's foolish to actually sign any such petitions to hand to the White House.
Though it's foolish to actually sign any such petitions to hand to the White House.
mikegriffith1
Mike Griffith
America was founded on the principle that a group of people organized into a sub-unit of a large unit have the natural right to peacefully separate from the parent unit. From an article of mine on the Civil War:
In order to believe that the framers intended the federal government to have the right to compel a state to remain in the Union, one would have to ignore the fact that the framers rejected the idea of allowing the federal government to use force against a state. One would also have to believe that the founders gave the federal government a right that they didn’t believe the British government possessed. George Washington and many other Patriots believed the British were “unjust invaders” for attempting to force the colonies to remain under British control against their will, and they resented being called “rebels” and “traitors” for wanting independence (see, for example, Washington’s 13 January 1777 letter to Lord William Howe, the commander of the British forces in America at the time). James Madison said England’s attempt to force the colonies to submit to British authority was “unjust and unwise” (Federalist Paper Number 46). When American Patriots met in Philadelphia in 1775 and issued a declaration on their reasons for taking up arms, they made it clear they didn’t like being called “rebels” and “traitors“:
Continental Army surgeon James Thacher didn't like the label of "rebels" either--he complained of being “stigmatized” as “rebels” by the enemy:
Our Patriot forefathers also had a lot to say about the coloniesÂ’ natural right to self-government and independence. Samuel Adams talked about natural rights and the fact that every natural right not expressly surrendered remains with the people:
In fact, Adams said the people's sovereignty is so absolute that even if they should, for whatever reason, renounce an essential natural right, that right remained with them anyway:
Thomas Paine:
Richard Henry Lee:
The Sons of Liberty of Connecticut adopted a resolution that said the people had the right to reassume the authority they had delegated:
John Adams, a key figure in the American Revolution who later became our second president, echoed these thoughts. He taught that the ultimate powers of government belonged to the citizens of the colonies, that the powers with which parliament and even the king ruled were in reality delegated powers that belonged to the citizens of each colony, and that those citizens had the right to resume those powers whenever they felt they were being misused badly enough. In fact, Adams viewed these principles as “the root and branch of the colonial cause.”
These principles are nothing more or less than the right of secession--one could also call this right the right of separation or the right of independence, as the Patriots usually did. Adams expressed these principles in his famous exchange with a Tory pen-named Massachusettensis (Adams, in turn, wrote under the pen name of Novanglus). (Southern Side of the Civil War)
Continental Army surgeon James Thacher didn't like the label of "rebels" either--he complained of being “stigmatized” as “rebels” by the enemy:
Our Patriot forefathers also had a lot to say about the coloniesÂ’ natural right to self-government and independence. Samuel Adams talked about natural rights and the fact that every natural right not expressly surrendered remains with the people:
In fact, Adams said the people's sovereignty is so absolute that even if they should, for whatever reason, renounce an essential natural right, that right remained with them anyway:
Thomas Paine:
Richard Henry Lee:
The Sons of Liberty of Connecticut adopted a resolution that said the people had the right to reassume the authority they had delegated:
John Adams, a key figure in the American Revolution who later became our second president, echoed these thoughts. He taught that the ultimate powers of government belonged to the citizens of the colonies, that the powers with which parliament and even the king ruled were in reality delegated powers that belonged to the citizens of each colony, and that those citizens had the right to resume those powers whenever they felt they were being misused badly enough. In fact, Adams viewed these principles as “the root and branch of the colonial cause.”
These principles are nothing more or less than the right of secession--one could also call this right the right of separation or the right of independence, as the Patriots usually did. Adams expressed these principles in his famous exchange with a Tory pen-named Massachusettensis (Adams, in turn, wrote under the pen name of Novanglus). (Southern Side of the Civil War)
GuyPinestra
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Let me get this straight, bucs.
You "hate when people mock and laugh at my home area.", based on the behavior of "a handful of dumb rednecks", but you thoroughly enjoy doing the EXACT SAME THING to Conservatives.
Got it!
GuyPinestra
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By your own words you must be lacking the "brains and talent".
Black_Label
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Right wingers are dumb as hell. I feel sorry you have to live around that trash.
GuyPinestra
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Leave it to the local moron to bring up THOSE red herrings.
Jason, are you so stupid as to believe that ANY of those things are going to "make a comeback"?
The Infidel
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Let them express their anger... It will pass, just like all the idiots on the left threatening to move away after Boosh got elected.
I just can't believe they would put their names on a list... Bet they all get audited by the IRS
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A few good penmen armed with a variety of pens and pencils can turn out as many signatures on as many petitions as Wall Street, our corporations and clans such as the Koch Brothers are willing to buy.
United we stand and divided we fall.
A small nation such as
Israel
with a plan, an organization and money necessary to accomplish its purpose,
can,
if we are divided,
not only control us
but also own us body and soul.
As for those who believe that has already happened,
consider the fact we still have enough freedom of speech
and enough freedom of action
to break away from our captor,
but if we were divded
we would lack the unity, the will, the strength and the power to do so.
SHOCKLEY
United we stand and divided we fall.
A small nation such as
Israel
with a plan, an organization and money necessary to accomplish its purpose,
can,
if we are divided,
not only control us
but also own us body and soul.
As for those who believe that has already happened,
consider the fact we still have enough freedom of speech
and enough freedom of action
to break away from our captor,
but if we were divded
we would lack the unity, the will, the strength and the power to do so.
SHOCKLEY
GuyPinestra
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Let them express their anger... It will pass, just like all the idiots on the left threatening to move away after Boosh got elected.
I just can't believe they would put their names on a list... Bet they all get audited by the IRS
They'll be high on the list of 'subversives' to be monitored, also.
Homeland Security needs the work...
JoeB131
Diamond Member
Or it just showed that old folks are straight to the point and not full of bullshit.
RetiredGySgt
Diamond Member
Nice circle jerk you got going here. Care to post a link that connects the petitions with the GOP? As for the South I was lead to believe a lot more then just Southern States were sending in names.
All perfectly legal and Constitutional. However unless several Million people sign such a petition the White House and the Congress will simply, properly, ignore it.
remind what your opinion was of all the Liberals that claimed they were leaving if Bush won reelection? Or was that different?
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