ScienceRocks
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So we need to burn our entire palo record and understanding of extinctions. Wow....
Thanks professors.
Thanks professors.
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If an ideal thermally conductive blackbody was the same distance from the Sun as the Earth is, it would have a temperature of about 5.3 °C. However, since the Earth reflects about 30%[5][6] of the incoming sunlight, this idealized planet's effective temperature (the temperature of a blackbody that would emit the same amount of radiation) would be about −18 °C.[7][8] The surface temperature of this hypothetical planet is 33 °C below Earth's actual surface temperature of approximately 14 °C.[9] The mechanism that produces this difference between the actual surface temperature and the effective temperature is due to the atmosphere and is known as the greenhouse effect.[10]
Wikipedia, "The Greenhouse Effect"
Why do YOU guys think the Earth is not -18C?
Are you, Old, Rocks, Matthew and Jake all the same person?
So we need to burn our entire palo record and understanding of extinctions. Wow....
Thanks professors.
If an ideal thermally conductive blackbody was the same distance from the Sun as the Earth is, it would have a temperature of about 5.3 °C. However, since the Earth reflects about 30%[5][6] of the incoming sunlight, this idealized planet's effective temperature (the temperature of a blackbody that would emit the same amount of radiation) would be about −18 °C.[7][8] The surface temperature of this hypothetical planet is 33 °C below Earth's actual surface temperature of approximately 14 °C.[9] The mechanism that produces this difference between the actual surface temperature and the effective temperature is due to the atmosphere and is known as the greenhouse effect.[10]
Wikipedia, "The Greenhouse Effect"
Why do YOU guys think the Earth is not -18C?
Are you, Old, Rocks, Matthew and Jake all the same person?
It's a honest fucking question, man. Why is the earth 33c warmer then the solar energy would otherwise suggest? You say there's no effect of co2 as there's no green house effect.
If an ideal thermally conductive blackbody was the same distance from the Sun as the Earth is, it would have a temperature of about 5.3 °C. However, since the Earth reflects about 30%[5][6] of the incoming sunlight, this idealized planet's effective temperature (the temperature of a blackbody that would emit the same amount of radiation) would be about −18 °C.[7][8] The surface temperature of this hypothetical planet is 33 °C below Earth's actual surface temperature of approximately 14 °C.[9] The mechanism that produces this difference between the actual surface temperature and the effective temperature is due to the atmosphere and is known as the greenhouse effect.[10]
Wikipedia, "The Greenhouse Effect"
Why do YOU guys think the Earth is not -18C?
Most extinctions were caused by green house gases.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPO6DiaYNPg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVz7a8Kkg1Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOejZLUQU8k
Like 4 out of 6 of the biggest extinctions in the history of the earth was caused by volcanos spilling this shit into the atmosphere. Snowball earth was caused by methane being taken out of the atmosphere and ended by volcano's spilling co2 into atmosphere, PT around 250 million years ago and the other 200 million years ago was caused by co2.
10f increase in global temperatures killed 95% of all animals on earth.
55 million years is another co2 warming event.
This is what the palo record shows.
I see the AGW cultists are out promoting their religious beliefs again.
CO2 does NOT drive climate, never has, nor did it cause an extension.
Science Fiction is sometimes pretty cool, but this thread of religious fiction is just boring.
Are you, Old, Rocks, Matthew and Jake all the same person?
It's a honest fucking question, man. Why is the earth 33c warmer then the solar energy would otherwise suggest? You say there's no effect of co2 as there's no green house effect.
I'm saying 200PPM of additional CO2 has no effect on temperature
I've never met anyone who can be described as a "greenhouse skeptic." Nobody with even the most basic of education doubts the existence of the greenhouse effect in our atmosphere.
Then you should get out and meet the crew here. Most of the deniers here have rejected it, though I suppose some aren't aware they're doing so.
Are you, Old, Rocks, Matthew and Jake all the same person?
It's a honest fucking question, man. Why is the earth 33c warmer then the solar energy would otherwise suggest? You say there's no effect of co2 as there's no green house effect.
I'm saying 200PPM of additional CO2 has no effect on temperature
And all those USMB poster quotes are all LARGELY correct.
1) no significant warming in at least 15 yrs..
2) CO2 is a minor climate influence. Will never cause runaway warming of the planet short of major volcanic periods. Has as much power in FORCING as it has as a RESULT of warming.
3) Runaway thermal warming due SOLELY to CO2 IS a weak theory..
4) There is an undeniable socio-political agenda behind the focus of finding man-caused warming.
5) The models developed for AGW have INHIBITED a discussion of how the climate really works and how heat is stored and distributed around the globe. AND -- the effects of NATURAL forcings and cycles have been GRAVELY minimized and ignored.. Things like the fact that Total Solar Insolation is holding steady at a 300 relative maximum.. Or that the 1degC since 1900 is of the same approximate magnitude of the variance from natural cycles.. While effects of CO2 from anthro sources has been HIGHLY exaggerated.
I'm saying 200PPM of additional CO2 has no effect on temperature
I've never met anyone who can be described as a "greenhouse skeptic." Nobody with even the most basic of education doubts the existence of the greenhouse effect in our atmosphere.
I've never met anyone who can be described as a "greenhouse skeptic." Nobody with even the most basic of education doubts the existence of the greenhouse effect in our atmosphere.
Then you should get out and meet the crew here. Most of the deniers here have rejected it, though I suppose some aren't aware they're doing so.
Hahahahahaha
I suppose you find it easier fighting against strawmen than actual posters. I certainly am not going to rehash hundreds of old posts but to simplify the greenhouse effect down to mankind's addition of extra CO2 is absurd. And to claim that 'deniers' deny it in any form just proves that you have no conception of the skeptical viewpoint.
And all those USMB poster quotes are all LARGELY correct.
1) no significant warming in at least 15 yrs..
flacidtenn said:2) CO2 is a minor climate influence. Will never cause runaway warming of the planet short of major volcanic periods. Has as much power in FORCING as it has as a RESULT of warming.
flacidtenn said:3) Runaway thermal warming due SOLELY to CO2 IS a weak theory.
flacidtenn said:4) There is an undeniable socio-political agenda behind the focus of finding man-caused warming.
flacidtenn said:5) The models developed for AGW have INHIBITED a discussion of how the climate really works and how heat is stored and distributed around the globe. AND -- the effects of NATURAL forcings and cycles have been GRAVELY minimized and ignored.. Things like the fact that Total Solar Insolation is holding steady at a 300 relative maximum.. Or that the 1degC since 1900 is of the same approximate magnitude of the variance from natural cycles.. While effects of CO2 from anthro sources has been HIGHLY exaggerated.
It's a honest fucking question, man. Why is the earth 33c warmer then the solar energy would otherwise suggest? You say there's no effect of co2 as there's no green house effect.
I'm saying 200PPM of additional CO2 has no effect on temperature
But that's a really stupid thing to say. 280 ppm is keeping your ass and the asses of everyone else on this planet from freezing to death. This Arctic cold snap would be the weather in July.
I see the AGW cultists are out promoting their religious beliefs again.
CO2 does NOT drive climate, never has, nor did it cause an extension.
Science Fiction is sometimes pretty cool, but this thread of religious fiction is just boring.