Gallup poll shows largest increase in Democratic Party affiliation in a decade

This is what is called the "Trump Effect"

An average of 49% of adults age 18 and older reported Democratic Party affiliation or said they are independent with Democratic leanings throughout the first quarter of 2021, the pollster reported. The survey was conducted by phone from January-March.

It's called the full censorship of social media and the general media effect.

The US is the former USSR now.

Even pravda is more truthful than our media.
Well the modern day media are students of the former USSR and Nazi regimes. You would like to think they were a little more sophisticated and smart about propoganda.

But no.

I think they know this which is why they are trying to dumb down the children in school as well as promote drug use.
 
This is what is called the "Trump Effect"

An average of 49% of adults age 18 and older reported Democratic Party affiliation or said they are independent with Democratic leanings throughout the first quarter of 2021, the pollster reported. The survey was conducted by phone from January-March.


Maybe it is, but the linked poll doesn't say that "Democratic Party affiliation" is up; it says the combination of DP registrants WITH independents who declare themselves to lean that way is. It's an important distinction in a land (this board) where yahoos run around with the idea that a party affiliation equates to some sort of species.

As it also notes, and I keep pointing out here, we no-party voters outnumber both Democrats and Republicans, and that's still the case. Actually formally registering with a political party only means .... well nothing. In some states it means they're allowed to vote in that party's primary but outside of that it confers no benefits whatsoever. I've even had to instruct foreigner posters here that no, it does not mean the voter MUST vote for that party, which is probably a logical deduction given no other reasons to register as such.

Basically the more of us registered as no-party, the better. It at least starves this bizzaro fantasy that somehow a "Democrat" and a "Republican" are some sort of subspecies, complete with their own personality traits. That's bullshit and always was.

Besides which, aversion to Rump isn't a political thing in the first place, as we've also pointed out here for the last six years. It's a PERSONAL thing.

"We no party.....". Lol. We know you're a dem. You don't need to dance around. And yes, the Rs and Ds in DC are some form of sub human.
 
This is what is called the "Trump Effect"

An average of 49% of adults age 18 and older reported Democratic Party affiliation or said they are independent with Democratic leanings throughout the first quarter of 2021, the pollster reported. The survey was conducted by phone from January-March.


Negative...
That’s called the “Free Shit Effect”

Exactly.....there has been a big change in the American Electorate....from self sufficiency to dependency of the Government.....folks want free stuff all they can get....the popularity of these game shows giving away free stuff and how gambling has spread across the nation are indicators of this.

We are thus ripe for a socialist/marxist government......bring on Kamala....I think we will soon see the democratic party start advocating for the removal of ole senile joe and bring on da Kamel Toe.
 
This is what is called the "Trump Effect"

An average of 49% of adults age 18 and older reported Democratic Party affiliation or said they are independent with Democratic leanings throughout the first quarter of 2021, the pollster reported. The survey was conducted by phone from January-March.


Maybe it is, but the linked poll doesn't say that "Democratic Party affiliation" is up; it says the combination of DP registrants WITH independents who declare themselves to lean that way is. It's an important distinction in a land (this board) where yahoos run around with the idea that a party affiliation equates to some sort of species.

As it also notes, and I keep pointing out here, we no-party voters outnumber both Democrats and Republicans, and that's still the case. Actually formally registering with a political party only means .... well nothing. In some states it means they're allowed to vote in that party's primary but outside of that it confers no benefits whatsoever. I've even had to instruct foreigner posters here that no, it does not mean the voter MUST vote for that party, which is probably a logical deduction given no other reasons to register as such.

Basically the more of us registered as no-party, the better. It at least starves this bizzaro fantasy that somehow a "Democrat" and a "Republican" are some sort of subspecies, complete with their own personality traits. That's bullshit and always was.

Besides which, aversion to Rump isn't a political thing in the first place, as we've also pointed out here for the last six years. It's a PERSONAL thing.

"We no party.....". Lol. We know you're a dem. You don't need to dance around. And yes, the Rs and Ds in DC are some form of sub human.

I don't even know what the fuck a "dem" is. It's not a word in English.
I also know I've never registered with a denotation of a political party. Because I know there's no point.
 
This is what is called the "Trump Effect"

An average of 49% of adults age 18 and older reported Democratic Party affiliation or said they are independent with Democratic leanings throughout the first quarter of 2021, the pollster reported. The survey was conducted by phone from January-March.


Negative...
That’s called the “Free Shit Effect”

Exactly.....there has been a big change in the American Electorate....from self sufficiency to dependency of the Government.....folks want free stuff all they can get....the popularity of these game shows giving away free stuff and how gambling has spread across the nation are indicators of this.

We are thus ripe for a socialist/marxist government......bring on Kamala....I think we will soon see the democratic party start advocating for the removal of ole senile joe and bring on da Kamel Toe.
I think human nature is such that people prefer safety over freedom.

That seems to be a common theme throughout history. In fact, most Americans did not support the American Revolution either.

Courage is a rare phenomenon.

Then let the bureaucrats take over and it's curtains.
 
This is what is called the "Trump Effect"

An average of 49% of adults age 18 and older reported Democratic Party affiliation or said they are independent with Democratic leanings throughout the first quarter of 2021, the pollster reported. The survey was conducted by phone from January-March.

College students wanting their loans paid by Pinochijoe.
 
This is what is called the "Trump Effect"
No, this is what is called a "poll," meaning lies, lies, and lies. But the left has never learned this, despite the obvious lying polls in 2016 about important things.

Polls are not "lies" dear. There's a whole science to it, which is why they publish their methodology. A poll (a real one) is excruciatingly engineered to pose open unbiased questions, to mix them up each time so no pattern develops, to find a real representative sample, etc. Gallup, a very old poling org, has been doing this same poll for decades. And Gallup is hardly part of any "left".

PUSH POLLS are lies. Real ones are not.
 
Polls are not "lies" dear. There's a whole science to it, which is why they publish their methodology. A poll (a real one) is excruciatingly engineered to pose open unbiased questions, to mix them up each time so no pattern develops, to find a real representative sample, etc. Gallup, a very old poling org, has been doing this same poll for decades. And Gallup is hardly part of any "left".

PUSH POLLS are lies. Real ones are not.
Can't agree. They wouldn't be so flamboyantly, flagrantly wrong if they weren't lying for propaganda purposes. Some "science."
 
Polls are not "lies" dear. There's a whole science to it, which is why they publish their methodology. A poll (a real one) is excruciatingly engineered to pose open unbiased questions, to mix them up each time so no pattern develops, to find a real representative sample, etc. Gallup, a very old poling org, has been doing this same poll for decades. And Gallup is hardly part of any "left".

PUSH POLLS are lies. Real ones are not.
Can't agree. They wouldn't be so flamboyantly, flagrantly wrong if they weren't lying for propaganda purposes. Some "science."

I've actually been trained in that science so I know whereof I speak. It's a diligent process that sweats over literally every word so as to avoid any suggestion one way or another. Phrasings are rotated so that if there's a multiple choice, the first choice constantly changes so that that's not an implied suggestion, and so on. Value judgment adjectives are verboten. Entirely neutral.

That's not to say it can't be abused and deliberately slanted by those so inclined of course, but again that's why each poll, valid ones anyway, show you their methodology, so we can see for ourselves what the approach was. If there's any deliberate slanting going on it will show up there. "Push polls", the fake ones designed to push some agenda disguised as a poll, will usually NOT show their methodology, because their shenanigans would be thusly exposed.

Example: when South Carolina voters got robocalled asking, "would you be less likely to vote for John McCain if you knew he had fathered an illegitimate black child?", that's a fake poll. Its object is not to ascertain a yes or no, it's to plant the idea "John McCain fathered an illegitimate black child", which is a sleazy way of telling a lie while hiding behind the technicality that it was a question, not a declarative statement.

Or:

"I've got some ice cream here, want some?" versus
"You don't want any of this disgusting stuff in this box, do you?"

Again, I'm very familiar with this particular poll. It's been ongoing for decades. It's legit.
 
If the GOPQ continues to drool at the feet of trump. the biggest liar east of the Mississippi River, they will be signing their own death certificate. Just watch and see...
 
Again, I'm very familiar with this particular poll. It's been ongoing for decades. It's legit.

Naaaaaah, not if Gallup and all the rest are now wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, and wow, were they ever. Disastrously wrong should be evidence of a problem, but a lot of people can't face that polls are no good anymore, they so badly want future prediction by some apparent "authority."

After Election Night, very shocked (I voted for Trump but had been doing speadsheets all summer on the totally false basis, it turned out, of the polling data at RealClearPolitics, so I never for a moment supposed he would win!), shocked because I had BELIEVED the polls, more fool me, I vowed never to read another poll. If I see the word "poll" as a supposed fact point in an article, I stop reading immediately, because I know it's all lies and propaganda.

Polling is exactly like the weathermen: people want to know the future so badly, they'll pay for phony claims. I'm also training myself to disregard the future as a subject of interest. More difficult than polls, but I'm getting there.

I've actually been trained in that science so I know whereof I speak. It's a diligent process that sweats over literally every word so as to avoid any suggestion one way or another. Phrasings are rotated so that if there's a multiple choice, the first choice constantly changes so that that's not an implied suggestion, and so on. Value judgment adjectives are verboten. Entirely neutral.

That's not to say it can't be abused and deliberately slanted by those so inclined of course, but again that's why each poll, valid ones anyway, show you their methodology, so we can see for ourselves what the approach was. If there's any deliberate slanting going on it will show up there.

Yeah, I've taken statistics courses, too. Two. I'm perhaps a little more mathy than you think I am. And I say again: polls being disastrously wrong, again and again, after major societal changes like no Republicans EVER taking any polls, doesn't exactly inactivate our long-ago statistics learning, but it does relegate it to the status of stats on angels, dancing, pins. No longer useful, because OBE: overtaken by events.


"Push polls", the fake ones designed to push some agenda disguised as a poll, will usually NOT show their methodology, because their shenanigans would be thusly exposed.

Example: when South Carolina voters got robocalled asking, "would you be less likely to vote for John McCain if you knew he had fathered an illegitimate black child?", that's a fake poll. Its object is not to ascertain a yes or no, it's to plant the idea "John McCain fathered an illegitimate black child", which is a sleazy way of telling a lie while hiding behind the technicality that it was a question, not a declarative statement.

Yes!! I'm delighted that you remember all that, too! I well remember all the fuss over that McCain thing. I followed it for awhile and it has some fascinating dimensions, but George Bush the Younger's campaign certainly did screw up McCain's attempt to get the nomination with that push poll.

And it was a push poll around then that pushed me right out of poll-taking, forever. I'm in Maryland, so it wasn't that one, but I thought poll-taking was like a patriotic duty --- remember when people thought stupid things like that? And that I "had" to answer the phone. I haven't had the ringer on for years; the government let telephones just become a conduit for thieves with weird accents from everywhere foreign.

So this push poll started off pretty normally with routine voting questions, and then he questioned whether I "knew" something a little blue about the candidate they were trying to destroy -- and then a little bluer, and third time's a charm, the caller hit me with "Did I know" a huge obscenity, really bad!! A man saying it, too, to a woman! I can't remember what was the obscenity (or I'd probably tell you: 30 years later, we can say anything online, I suppose) or who the smeared candidate was. I just know I hung up like a wasp had stung me and never took another political poll, and never intend to.

I'm hardly alone on the right about this and I don't think pollsters can get past this and re-establish trust in polls. Besides, polls don't deserve trust, they are plainly leftwing slanted, so they'll be wrong, wrong, wrong for the foreseeable future. I don't read polls anymore so I don't care. I don't watch the weather reports either; I'm not into wasting my time with fake future-telling.
 
This is what is called the "Trump Effect"

An average of 49% of adults age 18 and older reported Democratic Party affiliation or said they are independent with Democratic leanings throughout the first quarter of 2021, the pollster reported. The survey was conducted by phone from January-March.

Yup - all of those voters who voted for Biden in the last election have recently registered as official Democrats, including the DEAD ones, I'm sure.
 
Again, I'm very familiar with this particular poll. It's been ongoing for decades. It's legit.

Naaaaaah, not if Gallup and all the rest are now wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, and wow, were they ever. Disastrously wrong should be evidence of a problem, but a lot of people can't face that polls are no good anymore, they so badly want future prediction by some apparent "authority."

You can't declare a blanket "wrong" without evidence to the contrary. That's just naysaying. It's also blanket generalization. Present your evidence that "all" polls are wrong wrong wrong, and we'll talk turkey.

After Election Night, very shocked (I voted for Trump but had been doing speadsheets all summer on the totally false basis, it turned out, of the polling data at RealClearPolitics, so I never for a moment supposed he would win!), shocked because I had BELIEVED the polls, more fool me, I vowed never to read another poll. If I see the word "poll" as a supposed fact point in an article, I stop reading immediately, because I know it's all lies and propaganda.

False comparison I'm afraid. Election polls are by definition acutely dynamic. What respondents plan to do today changes, often radically, from what they planned to do yesterday at the same time. The instant case is about the respondent's own GENERAL tilt/identification, which evolves at more of a glacial pace. So what you have here is apples and oranges. A poll on something as continuously changing as an election has an exponentially shorter shelf life. All polls, legitimate ones, may be created equal but their subjects absolutely are not.

As regards your example above, again a national poll can indicate what the whole thinks, but "the whole" is not how we elect Presidents. Four years prior "the whole" indicated that Clinton would get the most votes, and she did.

Polling is exactly like the weathermen: people want to know the future so badly, they'll pay for phony claims. I'm also training myself to disregard the future as a subject of interest. More difficult than polls, but I'm getting there.

Again, this poll isn't at all about "the future". It's about "the present". There is nothing in this poll that purports to predict, or imply, anything in the future. This is an "IS" poll, not a "WILL BE" poll --- as an election poll is.

Analogically --- we can crunch stats (or fan opinions) and predict that the Dodgers will crush the Pirates in tomorrow's game; that's a very different thing from counting "how many self-identified Dodgers and Pirates fans there are" in the present.

I've actually been trained in that science so I know whereof I speak. It's a diligent process that sweats over literally every word so as to avoid any suggestion one way or another. Phrasings are rotated so that if there's a multiple choice, the first choice constantly changes so that that's not an implied suggestion, and so on. Value judgment adjectives are verboten. Entirely neutral.

That's not to say it can't be abused and deliberately slanted by those so inclined of course, but again that's why each poll, valid ones anyway, show you their methodology, so we can see for ourselves what the approach was. If there's any deliberate slanting going on it will show up there.

Yeah, I've taken statistics courses, too. Two. I'm perhaps a little more mathy than you think I am. And I say again: polls being disastrously wrong, again and again, after major societal changes like no Republicans EVER taking any polls, doesn't exactly inactivate our long-ago statistics learning, but it does relegate it to the status of stats on angels, dancing, pins. No longer useful, because OBE: overtaken by events.

I wouldn't know how mathy you are and given my own dearth of mathiness wouldn't challenge anybody, but this is not a math thing, it's a word thing. Phrasing. Adjectives. That's right up my alley. The math is simple addition, not complex. But the phrasing... aye, there's the rub. You can easily massage the math with the words, and what I'm saying is that legitimate polls bend over backward to avoid doing that.

Trust me, if the science of polling were about math it would put me right to sleep. It's all in the words.


"Push polls", the fake ones designed to push some agenda disguised as a poll, will usually NOT show their methodology, because their shenanigans would be thusly exposed.

Example: when South Carolina voters got robocalled asking, "would you be less likely to vote for John McCain if you knew he had fathered an illegitimate black child?", that's a fake poll. Its object is not to ascertain a yes or no, it's to plant the idea "John McCain fathered an illegitimate black child", which is a sleazy way of telling a lie while hiding behind the technicality that it was a question, not a declarative statement.

Yes!! I'm delighted that you remember all that, too! I well remember all the fuss over that McCain thing. I followed it for awhile and it has some fascinating dimensions, but George Bush the Younger's campaign certainly did screw up McCain's attempt to get the nomination with that push poll.

And it was a push poll around then that pushed me right out of poll-taking, forever. I'm in Maryland, so it wasn't that one, but I thought poll-taking was like a patriotic duty --- remember when people thought stupid things like that? And that I "had" to answer the phone. I haven't had the ringer on for years; the government let telephones just become a conduit for thieves with weird accents from everywhere foreign.

So this push poll started off pretty normally with routine voting questions, and then he questioned whether I "knew" something a little blue about the candidate they were trying to destroy -- and then a little bluer, and third time's a charm, the caller hit me with "Did I know" a huge obscenity, really bad!! A man saying it, too, to a woman! I can't remember what was the obscenity (or I'd probably tell you: 30 years later, we can say anything online, I suppose) or who the smeared candidate was. I just know I hung up like a wasp had stung me and never took another political poll, and never intend to.

What you've described here is another example of what I described. As I said setting it up, it's possible, and it happens, that those with agendas will push that agenda with what looks like a poll, BUT ISN'T. Polls can be faked, just as news can be faked, photos can be faked, even a singer's ability to stay on key can be faked. Dressed up to look legitimate but they're not. That's ---again --- why I led off with the point that a legitimate one publishes its methodology. If the South Cackalackee BushPush poll had published its methodology, its blatant abuse would be screaming its head off.

But that in no way means that a legitimate poll is illegitimate just because somebody else did a push poll. The fact that you can photoshop Robert Byrd in a Klan robe doesn't make all photography illegitimate. Nor does it mean that because some wackadoo ran a fake poll, the rest of us should stop participating in legitimate ones. And not to be unkind but your declining to participate doesn't matter to the poll because it will just field someone else with the same profile to reach the base it needs.

I'm hardly alone on the right about this and I don't think pollsters can get past this and re-establish trust in polls. Besides, polls don't deserve trust, they are plainly leftwing slanted, so they'll be wrong, wrong, wrong for the foreseeable future. I don't read polls anymore so I don't care. I don't watch the weather reports either; I'm not into wasting my time with fake future-telling.

I've already explained how polls (when I say "polls" I mean legitimate ones unless otherwise qualified) go to minute detail to specifically avoid any slant. You're again comparing real polls with fake ones.

To wade further into this muck, polls are not by any means always political. Industries for instance use polls to determine what consumers think of their product versus what they think about their competition. It would serve them no use at all to slant a poll into what the company wanted to hear; that would be a complete waste of time and money.
 

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