Fully Vaccinated People Represent Over 50% of Cases and Hospitalizations in Several Regions

[Gabe Lackmann]

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Hooray for science!

Debate Solved! Thanks random tweet guy!

 

[Toro]

UK scientists believe it is 'almost certain' a coronavirus variant will emerge that beats current vaccines | CNN

British academics believe it is "almost certain" that a SARS-Cov-2 variant will emerge that "leads to current vaccine failure." SARS-CoV-2 is the virus that causes Covid-19.

edition.cnn.com

Yes, as long as we don't reach herd immunity, this thing will circulate amongst us.

The longer this thing circulates, the more it will mutate. And it may mutate into a much deadlier strain that kills, say, young, healthy people too. The Delta variant is now killing middle aged people at something like 10x the rate of the first strain.

Among the vaccinated, we may also need booster shots as it is unsure how long the vaccine works.

If 100% of the population got the vaccine this month, this thing would be done and dusted.

 

[Toro]

Debate Solved! Thanks random tweet guy!

That comes from the same data the OP quoted.

 

[Augustine_]

Here is from your beloved Communist News Network twinkle toes:

UK scientists believe it is 'almost certain' a coronavirus variant will emerge that beats current vaccines | CNN

British academics believe it is "almost certain" that a SARS-Cov-2 variant will emerge that "leads to current vaccine failure." SARS-CoV-2 is the virus that causes Covid-19.

edition.cnn.com

I'm curious as to what your mind has decided that article is saying.

"They recommend that authorities continue to reduce virus transmission as much as possible to reduce the chance of a new, vaccine-resistant variant.
They also recommend that research focus on new vaccines that not only prevent hospital admission and disease, but also "induce high and durable levels of mucosal immunity."

The goal, they say, should be "to reduce infection of and transmission from vaccinated individuals," and to "reduce the possibility of variant selection in vaccinated individuals." Research is already underway at several companies that make the Covid-19 vaccines to address new variants."

They recommend everything that republicans oppose.

 

[Gabe Lackmann]

That comes from the same data the OP quoted.

Fair enough. What is the mortality rate for under 40 with no comorbidities?

Yeah, I'll take my chances.

 

[Jimmy_Chitwood]

From the Bloomberg article in the OP

But in the months since, the number of vaccine breakthrough cases has grown, as has the risk that they present. And while the CDC has stopped tracking such cases, many states have not. Bloomberg gathered data from 35 states and identified 111,748 vaccine breakthrough cases through the end of July, more than 10 times the CDC’s end-of-April tally.​

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With more than 164 million Americans vaccinated, breakthrough cases are expected. The number of them should rise as more people are vaccinated, simply because there are more vaccinated people who could get infected.​

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Severe cases of disease in vaccinated people remain rare. Only 6,587 people in the U.S. have been hospitalized or died with Covid-19 after being fully vaccinated, according to the CDC.​

https://archive.is/0v0wQ#selection-3529.0-3529.184

From your beloved Communist New Network dear:




"Vaccination alone won't stop the rise of variants and in fact could push the evolution of strains that evade their protection, researchers warned."

 

[Esdraelon]

The severity of the cases is the real story.
If they’re mild then it’s kinda moot.

The point is that even without vaccine the vast majority of cases has been mild. These fools are trying to sell the idea that they somehow KNOW that with the jab, you get a "milder case". If they begin dropping like flies this October/November, they'll be blaming everyone but themselves. FCK 'em. Their body, THEIR CHOICE.

 

[Augustine_]

From your beloved Communist New Network dear:




"Vaccination alone won't stop the rise of variants and in fact could push the evolution of strains that evade their protection, researchers warned."

"Wear masks and take other preventative steps until almost everyone is vaccinated."

It's right there, you fucking idiot.

 

[Jimmy_Chitwood]

I'm curious as to what your mind has decided that article is saying.

"They recommend that authorities continue to reduce virus transmission as much as possible to reduce the chance of a new, vaccine-resistant variant.
They also recommend that research focus on new vaccines that not only prevent hospital admission and disease, but also "induce high and durable levels of mucosal immunity."

The goal, they say, should be "to reduce infection of and transmission from vaccinated individuals," and to "reduce the possibility of variant selection in vaccinated individuals." Research is already underway at several companies that make the Covid-19 vaccines to address new variants."

They recommend everything that republicans oppose.

From your beloved Communist New Network dear:




"Vaccination alone won't stop the rise of variants and in fact could push the evolution of strains that evade their protection, researchers warned."

 

[Toro]

From your beloved Communist New Network dear:




"Vaccination alone won't stop the rise of variants and in fact could push the evolution of strains that evade their protection, researchers warned."

That’s because as long as it circulates, it evolves.

And the probability of evolving goes up the greater the population that is unvaccinated.

 

[Toro]

As Covid Cases Rise All Over U.S., Lower Vaccination Rates Point to Worse Outcomes (Published 2021)

Counties with low vaccination rates continue to bear the brunt of the highly contagious Delta variant, and some are seeing their highest case rates of the entire pandemic.

www.nytimes.com

 

[Gabe Lackmann]

That’s because as long as it circulates, it evolves.

And the probability of evolving goes up the greater the population that is unvaccinate

Viruses do not evolve up in deadliness. They evolve down.
Think about it. If the one flu strain continued to evolve into deadlier and deadlier forms the Earth would have been wiped out millions of years ago.
This is silliness.

UNLESS, MAN dicked with the system.

MRNA Vaccines.

 

[Esdraelon]

Yeah, I'll take my chances...oh...and fuck your granny.

I'll take mine, as well. I can predict 100% mortality for any gobment stooge that comes at me with a needle "for the greater good".

 

[Gabe Lackmann]

I'll take mine, as well. I can predict 100% mortality for any gobment stooge that comes at me with a needle "for the greater good".

They are creating this 'Delta' bullshit, if it does exist at all, with their experimental Frankenscience.

 

[Kilroy2]

Well with operation Warp Speed the effectiveness rate for Pfizer and Moderna was known to be 95% effective at preventing illness, while the one-shot Johnson & Johnson shot was 72% effective

So a small percentage will still get ill and that is known and not anything new

But the question is it in line with the effectiveness rate and even if it is not then the question becomes which is better

To have the shot and have a slim chance of still becoming ill as it is not 100% effective

versus the changes that you will still become ill or maybe not become ill

It is a game of change and there is no 100 percent correct choice.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Get vaccinated and stop reading pure garbage, fool

can you prove him wrong?....because i just heard the same thing on the news...

 

[Ben Thomson]

"Even though the CDC stopped attempting to track these cases, some states are still trying to. Bloomberg News recently gathered data from several states and has identified at least 111,748 vaccine breakthrough cases through the end of July...According to new data published, about three-fourths of people infected in a Massachusetts Covid-19 outbreak were fully vaccinated against the coronavirus, with four of them ending up in the hospital...Even among states that track cases closely, officials caution that the data is incomplete because vaccinated people who are infected and asymptomatic are likely largely missing from statistics."

Interesting point here.

"According to a recent report from the New York Times, a person working in partnership with the CDC on investigations of the delta variant, spoke about the breakthrough cases on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak.

The anonymous source said the data came from a July 4 outbreak in Provincetown, Massachusetts. Genetic analysis of the outbreak showed that people who were vaccinated were transmitting the virus to other vaccinated people. The source said the data was “deeply disconcerting” and a “canary in the coal mine” for scientists who had seen the data"

Fully Vaccinated People Represent Over 50% of Cases and Hospitalizations in Several Regions, Weeks After the CDC Stopped Tracking Breakthrough Cases - DailyVeracity

A CDC spokesperson recently told NBC News that the agency stopped comprehensively tracking breakthrough cases in May of…

www.dailyveracity.com

Survival rate among the vaccinated who suffer a break through infection..99.999%. The un-vaccinated suffer far worse. 25 times more likely to need hospitalizing and incubation.

 

[Gabe Lackmann]

Survival rate among the vaccinated who suffer a break through infection..99.999%. The un-vaccinated suffer far worse. 25 times more likely to need hospitalizing and incubation

What is the mortality rate for males under 50 with no comorbidities?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

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Hooray for science!

The vaccines have been a wonderful success.

 

[strollingbones]

odd ball gum flaps with no links but thinks he has it all....only thing he has is an overblown ego