Frozen Wind Farms Are Just a Small Piece of Texas’s Power Woes

[noonereal]

Conservatives do not want the US isolated unless you mean china

dude

First thing is that we need to agree that there is a differance between a conservative, republican and a Trumpist.

If you claim Trumpists did not follow an isolationist policy, you are just lying. If you say "real republicans" and conservatives do not advocate isolationism, we agree.

Trumpov still has 70% approval support among Republicans.
(down from 90%)
Still a Cult to which Republicans are obviously more vulnerable for varuious reasons including education, or lack thereof.
Not to mention Conspiarcism (his true core), and racism.

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I can't argue, as you say, Trumpists, besides being morally bankrupt are also ignorant. Facts are facts in America again. Thank God.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

The climate has been changing ever since earth has been revolving around the sun. This isn't something new.

 

[Rambunctious]

Bloomberg:

""Don’t point too many fingers at Texas wind turbines, because they’re Not the main reason broad swaths of the state have been plunged into darkness.

While ice has forced some turbines to shut down just as a brutal cold wave drives record electricity demand, that’s been the Least significant factor in the blackouts, according to Dan Woodfin, a senior director for the Electric Reliability Council of Texas, which operates the state’s power grid."...."

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

That is a BS lie by global warming nuts....Texas would not be in the news for power outages if not for renewable subsidies that replaced their existing power supply with wind and solar farms...so the people of America in part paid for Texas to have an unreliable power grid....CA is right in there with them....

you don't know what you are talking about which, of course, surprises no one

TX is off the national grid. They are off the national grid because of the ass hole right wingers who wanted "independence."

So now they learn the price of "independence."

Assholes.

Everything the wingnuts do comes back to bite them. This is bit one example.

So you say I don't know what I'm talking about and then you proceed in not addressing my point at all....if all you have are insults you won't convince anyone of anything....especially about the latest weather scare...

 

[Rambunctious]

Conservatives do not want the US isolated unless you mean china

dude

First thing is that we need to agree that there is a differance between a conservative, republican and a Trumpist.

If you claim Trumpists did not follow an isolationist policy, you are just lying. If you say "real republicans" and conservatives do not advocate isolationism, we agree.

Trumpov still has 70% approval support among Republicans.
(down from 90%)
Still a Cult to which Republicans are obviously more vulnerable for varuious reasons including education, or lack thereof.
Not to mention Conspiarcism (his true core), and racism.

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I can't argue, as you say, Trumpists, besides being morally bankrupt are also ignorant. Facts are facts in America again. Thank God.

Again you resort to a child's playground of insults....try sounding educated for a change...

 

[Lesh]

We need to use natural gas and nuclear energy....and oil and coal....stop wasting money on ancient forms of power...

Natural gas froze in the pipelines. Nuke plants shut down...fossil fuel plants shut down

And oh yea...Wind Turbines only provide 10% of Texas energy this time of year.

This is a total failure of the Texas government to anticipate a cold snap.

Nothing else
ALL of this could have been prevented.

 

[22lcidw]

We need to use natural gas and nuclear energy....and oil and coal....stop wasting money on ancient forms of power...

Natural gas froze in the pipelines. Nuke plants shut down...fossil fuel plants shut down

And oh yea...Wind Turbines only provide 10% of Texas energy this time of year.

This is a total failure of the Texas government to anticipate a cold snap.

Nothing else
ALL of this could have been prevented.

They will learn from this Upgrades will happen where needed.

 

[shoshi]

Solar is good in the daytime. Eilat is 100% solar powered during the day. At night you need traditional power that does not need the sun. gas is best it less polluting than coal. We have much gas from the sea. I think America has much gas. Texas would. Where you have oil fields you have gas fields.

 

[bendog]

Bloomberg:

""Don’t point too many fingers at Texas wind turbines, because they’re Not the main reason broad swaths of the state have been plunged into darkness.

While ice has forced some turbines to shut down just as a brutal cold wave drives record electricity demand, that’s been the Least significant factor in the blackouts, according to Dan Woodfin, a senior director for the Electric Reliability Council of Texas, which operates the state’s power grid."...."

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

That is a BS lie by global warming nuts....Texas would not be in the news for power outages if not for renewable subsidies that replaced their existing power supply with wind and solar farms...so the people of America in part paid for Texas to have an unreliable power grid....CA is right in there with them....

Fake NEWS. And tubines work well in Greenland anyway

Are frozen wind turbines to blame for Texas power outages?

AUSTIN (KXAN) — With power still out for Texans across the state, many people are placing the blame on renewable energy and frozen wind turbines. Earlier this week, many turbines had to be sh…

www.kxan.com

 

[bendog]

We need to use natural gas and nuclear energy....and oil and coal....stop wasting money on ancient forms of power...

Natural gas froze in the pipelines. Nuke plants shut down...fossil fuel plants shut down

And oh yea...Wind Turbines only provide 10% of Texas energy this time of year.

This is a total failure of the Texas government to anticipate a cold snap.

Nothing else
ALL of this could have been prevented.

They will learn from this Upgrades will happen where needed.

Abbot is more likely to learn to walk again. And yeah I went there beause he sued a homeowner over a tree falling on him while he was jogging in a storm and then went onto a career as a tort reformer.

 

[Nostra]

D'ya think that Texans believe in Climate Change now?

'Cause, guess what! THEIR CLIMATE SURE HAS CHANGED!

Looks like the whole state is turning BLUE!!!!

Nobody has ever claimed the climate doesn't change, you ginormous idiot.

 

[Staidhup]

The Dimbo’s never pass on a chance to further their agenda. This issue would not exist if Nuclear Energy was considered a viable solution but the leftists killed that option long ago.

You clearly don't understand the problem in TX. It is not how the energy is generated, it is the fact that they have no back up because they choose to not be part of the national grid.

Idiot.

I beg to differ, all the money spent on alternative energy proved to be a failure, partly due to the fact this was a once in 100 year phenomenon and the power grid was Incapable of meeting demand. Nuclear and carbon based power plants shut down do to sources of required cooling material, namely water, had frozen over, plants have controls in place to shut down when coolant is not available. Batteries lost power, wind turbines iced over, which combined proved insufficient in meeting needs. So address the problem not your delusional narrative. So should be plan for 100 year events and retrofit the grid, at great expense, or accept that the best laid plans of mice and men failed?

 

[BlackSand]

We are going through rotating black-outs because there isn't enough power to sustain the demand across the area.
This is something that never happened when Dolet Hills Mine and the Cleco Power Plant were open.

Glad I am enough of a prepper I have a generator that can run the house.
Guess it just sucks if you are one of the poor folks though ...

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[Brain357]

The climate has been changing ever since earth has been revolving around the sun. This isn't something new.

The speed of it seems to be the concern.

 

[abu afak]

The climate has been changing ever since earth has been revolving around the sun. This isn't something new.

Claiming local or regional weather is 'Global Climate' is something Stupid no matter when it happens.

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[Mac-7]

Still a Cult to which Republicans are obviously more vulnerable for varuious reasons including education, or lack thereof.

You are so full of it

Trump voters are as educated as biden voters

 

[BluesLegend]

Yup, all these morons are screaming about “green energy”

What's greener than burning recycled plants and dinosaurs?

 

[BluesLegend]

Trump voters are as educated as biden voters

I find that statement insulting. I have been compared to Biden voters, ewww!

 

[Jim H - VA USA]

Bloomberg:

"Don’t point too many fingers at Texas wind turbines, because they’re Not the main reason broad swaths of the state have been plunged into darkness.

While ice has forced some turbines to shut down just as a brutal cold wave drives record electricity demand, that’s been the Least significant factor in the blackouts, according to Dan Woodfin, a senior director for the Electric Reliability Council of Texas, which operates the state’s power grid."...."

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

Although this article says there is less wind power off-line than other forms, and that is correct, the situation is even worse.

The article compares maximum capacity, not power production.

Fossil and nuclear power produce full power about 95% of the time if needed.

Wind is intermittent, and only produces power about 20% of the time. It is very difficult to manage the grid at times.

As you can see from the second chart, natural gas produces more than twice as much electricity as wind.

Once wind becomes a significant fraction of the grid, like in Texas, parts of the Mid West, and Germany (chart below), the other power plants have to pick up the slack when it is not producing....

A question might arise. Why build the wind power in the first place, if the other plants have to be built anyway, to cover for when the wind is not blowing in ice storms or dog days of summer?

Many of the more reliable plants are forced to cycle their power to adjust for the intermittency of the wind, which receives federal subsidies and priority. The reliable plants are forced by the grid operators to reduce power when wind is producing. It's nuts, what we are doing in this country.

Texas is following Kalifornia and Germany's misguided Thunberg agenda. Germany is full of Greens like California. Texas has abundant fossil fuels.

Building wind power almost doubles costs, as you still have to build the backup power anyway, and it dramatically reduces grid reliability, as the other forms of energy are forced to cut costs dramatically to compete with subsidized wind.

One of two Texas nukes is down. It had an outdoor sensor freeze up from the record cold, resulting in an anomalous reading. Both nukes combined typically produce less generation than wind.

United States - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)

www.eia.gov

 

[Fiero425]

We need to use natural gas and nuclear energy....and oil and coal....stop wasting money on ancient forms of power...

Natural gas froze in the pipelines. Nuke plants shut down...fossil fuel plants shut down

And oh yea...Wind Turbines only provide 10% of Texas energy this time of year.

This is a total failure of the Texas government to anticipate a cold snap.

Nothing else
ALL of this could have been prevented.

They were told after blackout of 2011 that they needed to weatherize their windmills and generators! Texas can throw blame around all they want, they need to look at themselves! They were too fk'n cheap and shortsighted and it's blown up in their faces after years of mocking other states who've had their own blackouts like California! I remember back in '96-97 when our Cal. rates were jacked up because we were being "held up" by Texas! Cruz was making noise about our local politicians! Notice he's stayed mum so far!

 

[Lesh]

Bloomberg:

"Don’t point too many fingers at Texas wind turbines, because they’re Not the main reason broad swaths of the state have been plunged into darkness.

While ice has forced some turbines to shut down just as a brutal cold wave drives record electricity demand, that’s been the Least significant factor in the blackouts, according to Dan Woodfin, a senior director for the Electric Reliability Council of Texas, which operates the state’s power grid."...."

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

Although this article says there is less wind power off-line than other forms, and that is correct, the situation is even worse.

The article compares maximum capacity, not power production.

Fossil and nuclear power produce full power about 95% of the time if needed.

Wind is intermittent, and only produces power about 20% of the time. It is very difficult to manage the grid at times.

As you can see from the second chart, natural gas produces more than twice as much electricity as wind.

Once wind becomes a significant fraction of the grid, like in Texas, parts of the Mid West, and Germany (chart below), the other power plants have to pick up the slack when it is not producing....

A question might arise. Why build the wind power in the first place, if the other plants have to be built anyway, to cover for when the wind is not blowing in ice storms or dog days of summer?

Many of the more reliable plants are forced to cycle their power to adjust for the intermittency of the wind, which receives federal subsidies and priority. The reliable plants are forced by the grid operators to reduce power when wind is producing. It's nuts, what we are doing in this country.

Texas is following Kalifornia and Germany's misguided Thunberg agenda. Germany is full of Greens like California. Texas has abundant fossil fuels.

Building wind power almost doubles costs, as you still have to build the backup power anyway, and it dramatically reduces grid reliability, as the other forms of energy are forced to cut costs dramatically to compete with subsidized wind.

One of two Texas nukes is down. It had an outdoor sensor freeze up from the record cold, resulting in an anomalous reading. Both nukes combined typically produce less generation than wind.

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United States - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)

www.eia.gov

None of that matters here

A. In the winter only 10% of Texas power comes from renewables

B. ALL of it...nuke, fossil fuels...all of it failed...because they didn't take proper precautions regarding cold weather..

Republicans have been running Texas for DECADES...and this is what you get