Front-Runner, Here!!!

[Marion Morrison]

The cares I has about the Yankees, eh.

Da Rays.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Then someone at the NYT flunked grade-school math. Yes, it is that simple! No matter how many times they regurgitate it, the numbers are clear: they are on the hook for ten years and $290,000,000. The Marlins are paying $30,000,000 of the deal. Therefore, the Yankees owe Stanton, on average, $26,000,000 per season! This is grade-school math!

The Yankees will regret this deal unless Sanchez opts out in 2 years.

Sanchez???

 

[Jarlaxle]

Stanton, not Sanchez.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Stanton, not Sanchez.

1. Not only does the Stanton deal not break the bank....but

a. It is worth every penny

b. the Yankees will be under the $197 million luxury tax

c. they are now looking to acquire two more pitchers.


Still worried?

 

[Jarlaxle]

A: No, it's not. There will be $50,000,000 (and maybe $75,000,000) of dead money on the deal...maybe more, if he gets hurt. He has already missed significant parts of THREE seasons with injuries, and already needed knee surgery (at age 22) once. Jeter is probably turning CARTWHEELS at getting rid of that albatross contract.

B. They have more than half of that committed to SIX players! (Stanton, Tanaka, Ellsbury, Gardner, Robertson, and Chapman) I don't see it, unless they either dump payroll (very hard) or do NOTHING else. They have several players arbitration-eligible (notably, Didi Gregorious, who had an excellent season and may nearly doubly his $5M salary), so they will get substantial pay raises.

C. And how, pray tell, do they plan to do that and stay under the luxury tax threshold?! New math?

 

[PoliticalChic]

A: No, it's not. There will be $50,000,000 (and maybe $75,000,000) of dead money on the deal...maybe more, if he gets hurt. He has already missed significant parts of THREE seasons with injuries, and already needed knee surgery (at age 22) once. Jeter is probably turning CARTWHEELS at getting rid of that albatross contract.

B. They have more than half of that committed to SIX players! (Stanton, Tanaka, Ellsbury, Gardner, Robertson, and Chapman) I don't see it, unless they either dump payroll (very hard) or do NOTHING else. They have several players arbitration-eligible (notably, Didi Gregorious, who had an excellent season and may nearly doubly his $5M salary), so they will get substantial pay raises.

C. And how, pray tell, do they plan to do that and stay under the luxury tax threshold?! New math?

Are you a Yankee fan?

 

[Jarlaxle]

No, which is why I can look at this without rose-colored glasses.

 

[PoliticalChic]

No, which is why I can look at this without rose-colored glasses.

No....which is why you're carping.


Don't worry.....the Mets'll come through any day now....


....any day.....


....any.....

 

[Jarlaxle]

You will be the first one squealing in dismay when Stanton gets paid fifty million dollars to recuperate from major surgery. Long term, huge-money contracts do not work. They NEVER turn out well for anyone except the player. See: Sabathia, Jeter, Beckett, and many others.

 

[PoliticalChic]

You will be the first one squealing in dismay when Stanton gets paid fifty million dollars to recuperate from major surgery. Long term, huge-money contracts do not work. They NEVER turn out well for anyone except the player. See: Sabathia, Jeter, Beckett, and many others.

Sabathia, Jeter......

WHAT???


You don't follow baseball, huh?

 

[Jarlaxle]

I do and have for 30+ years.

 

[PoliticalChic]

I do and have for 30+ years.

Yet you don't see 'Hall of Fame' in Jeter or Sabathia?

You really should pay more attention.

 

[Jarlaxle]

Whooooooooossssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhh...................................

OK, one more time: 4 of Jeter's last 5 seasons sucked. He fell off a cliff after a superb (.334/18/66, .871OPS, 107 runs scored, 212 hits) 2009 season.

The rest of his career, he was a mediocre hitter, had lost much of his speed, and had been a liability at shortstop for a while. He was bad in 2010 (career lows in batting, OBP, and slugging), fair in an injury-limited (missed 30 games) 2011, good in 2012. 2013 was a lost season (only played 17 games), and in 2014 he was embarrassing to watch, a shadow of his performance even 2 years earlier. He made $12 million to hit .256, and play awful (as in: historically bad) shortstop, among the worst in the league. Jeter was never exceptional in the field-in fact, he was never more than fair-and probably should have been moved to second or right field by 2007.

Sabathia's last FIVE seasons were lousy. For over $20,000,000 per season, he never put up an ERA better than 3.69 (and was over 4.50 three of the five seasons!), he topped 180 innings once (while stumbling to a 4.78 ERA), and has NEVER had better than a 3:1 strikeout/walk ratio in a full season since 2012! (He did in 2014, but only pitched eight games.) CC Sabathia is not a HoF pitcher. Hall of Fame pitchers do not have 3.70 ERA for their careers.

A player can be a great player in his prime, and bad at the end of his career.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Whooooooooossssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhh...................................

OK, one more time: 4 of Jeter's last 5 seasons sucked. He fell off a cliff after a superb (.334/18/66, .871OPS, 107 runs scored, 212 hits) 2009 season.

The rest of his career, he was a mediocre hitter, had lost much of his speed, and had been a liability at shortstop for a while. He was bad in 2010 (career lows in batting, OBP, and slugging), fair in an injury-limited (missed 30 games) 2011, good in 2012. 2013 was a lost season (only played 17 games), and in 2014 he was embarrassing to watch, a shadow of his performance even 2 years earlier. He made $12 million to hit .256, and play awful (as in: historically bad) shortstop, among the worst in the league. Jeter was never exceptional in the field-in fact, he was never more than fair-and probably should have been moved to second or right field by 2007.

Sabathia's last FIVE seasons were lousy. For over $20,000,000 per season, he never put up an ERA better than 3.69 (and was over 4.50 three of the five seasons!), he topped 180 innings once (while stumbling to a 4.78 ERA), and has NEVER had better than a 3:1 strikeout/walk ratio in a full season since 2012! (He did in 2014, but only pitched eight games.) CC Sabathia is not a HoF pitcher. Hall of Fame pitchers do not have 3.70 ERA for their careers.

A player can be a great player in his prime, and bad at the end of his career.

"Can Derek Jeter become the first unanimous inductee into Baseball's Hall of Fame?"
Can Derek Jeter become the first unanimous inductee into Baseball's Hall of Fame?

"CC Sabathia: Sabathia is the active leader in Wins Above Replacement among pitchers, and he looked like a shoo-in to someday reach the Hall of Fame as recently as 2012. But outside of his incredible 2007-08 run, he wasn’t quite dominant enough in his heyday. Sabathia is enjoying a resurgent season now at age 35, and a few more decent seasons could get him in."
8 active MLB players who would be Hall of Famers if they retired today

 

[Jarlaxle]

Whooooooooooooossssssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh................................................

 

[rightwinger]

Whooooooooossssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhh...................................

OK, one more time: 4 of Jeter's last 5 seasons sucked. He fell off a cliff after a superb (.334/18/66, .871OPS, 107 runs scored, 212 hits) 2009 season.

The rest of his career, he was a mediocre hitter, had lost much of his speed, and had been a liability at shortstop for a while. He was bad in 2010 (career lows in batting, OBP, and slugging), fair in an injury-limited (missed 30 games) 2011, good in 2012. 2013 was a lost season (only played 17 games), and in 2014 he was embarrassing to watch, a shadow of his performance even 2 years earlier. He made $12 million to hit .256, and play awful (as in: historically bad) shortstop, among the worst in the league. Jeter was never exceptional in the field-in fact, he was never more than fair-and probably should have been moved to second or right field by 2007.

Sabathia's last FIVE seasons were lousy. For over $20,000,000 per season, he never put up an ERA better than 3.69 (and was over 4.50 three of the five seasons!), he topped 180 innings once (while stumbling to a 4.78 ERA), and has NEVER had better than a 3:1 strikeout/walk ratio in a full season since 2012! (He did in 2014, but only pitched eight games.) CC Sabathia is not a HoF pitcher. Hall of Fame pitchers do not have 3.70 ERA for their careers.

A player can be a great player in his prime, and bad at the end of his career.

"Can Derek Jeter become the first unanimous inductee into Baseball's Hall of Fame?"
Can Derek Jeter become the first unanimous inductee into Baseball's Hall of Fame?

"CC Sabathia: Sabathia is the active leader in Wins Above Replacement among pitchers, and he looked like a shoo-in to someday reach the Hall of Fame as recently as 2012. But outside of his incredible 2007-08 run, he wasn’t quite dominant enough in his heyday. Sabathia is enjoying a resurgent season now at age 35, and a few more decent seasons could get him in."
8 active MLB players who would be Hall of Famers if they retired today

There are many more deserving than Jeter to be a unanimous HOF. Jeter was one of the dominant SSs in his era, but never one an MVP
He was not the best player of his generation

 

[Jarlaxle]

He wasn't the best SHORTSTOP of his generation. (Defensively, he may have been the worst.)

 

[PoliticalChic]

NEW YORK (CBSNewYork) — As the Yankees look to add another pitcher to their rotation, a new — and big — name has surfaced.

According to The Athletic’s Ken Rosenthal, the Bronx Bombers have expressed interest in free agent right-hander Yu Darvish.

Report: Yankees Have Eye On Yu Darvish



I was hoping for this, since he left Texas!


If he comes to the Yanks, I will have my two fav Iranians playing on my two fav teams!

 

[PoliticalChic]

"....31-year-old Darvish, who reportedly is looking for $20 million-$25 million per year.

Even if the Yankees move Ellsbury and a team takes on money, Darvish at those prices would be a very tight fit for the Yankees, who have vowed to get under the $197 million luxury-tax threshold for the coming season.

....the Yankees are at $172 million. Add in the $15 million or so for salaries for players with zero to three years’ service time and it climbs to $182 million. Then you need to leave money for salaries belonging to players acquired by trades during the season.

Darvish is 56-42 with a 3.42 ERA in 131 big-league starts and went 10-12 with a 3.86 this past season for the Rangers and Dodgers. "
https://nypost.com/2017/12/20/the-dominoes-yankees-need-to-fall-to-make-yu-darvish-splash/

 

[rightwinger]

NEW YORK (CBSNewYork) — As the Yankees look to add another pitcher to their rotation, a new — and big — name has surfaced.

According to The Athletic’s Ken Rosenthal, the Bronx Bombers have expressed interest in free agent right-hander Yu Darvish.

Report: Yankees Have Eye On Yu Darvish



I was hoping for this, since he left Texas!


If he comes to the Yanks, I will have my two fav Iranians playing on my two fav teams!

Darvish gave away the World Series
Major choke

I'd trust CC Sabathia in a big game over Darvish