turtledude
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JoeB continues to soil his pants over his fears that gun owners will mainly vote for anti-socialist candidates
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The gun is an inanimate object. A person cause harm if they use a gun to kill someone.
99.99% of privately owned guns are never used to harm anyone.
And despite the nonsense you posted, you ARE, in fact, advocating the imprisonment of people who broke no law. That is the way it works. That is reality.
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There's a reason why Germany only locks up 68,000 people and we lock up 2 million.
How much bigger is the US population wise? Hello?
No, your fear is too expensive for the rest of US. Your fears do not trump my rights. Perhaps you should take some Valium or something.
The gun is an inanimate object. A person cause harm if they use a gun to kill someone.
99.99% of privately owned guns are never used to harm anyone.
And despite the nonsense you posted, you ARE, in fact, advocating the imprisonment of people who broke no law. That is the way it works. That is reality.
actually, they are accessories. You can easily make that case with the right prosecutors and right jury. at the very least, you can economically ruin them.
You think a j ury is really going to care 'Well, he didn't come up on the database" when they are shown the autopsy photos of the people Holmes or Roof killed?
No, your fear is too expensive for the rest of US. Your fears do not trump my rights. Perhaps you should take some Valium or something.
32,000 dead a year. Not worth your fetish.
No, they cannot. Unless you completely rewrite the definition of accessory.
Yes, I do think the jury is going to care. They will see that the gun dealer used the proper procedures, followed the law, and got the approval of the federal gov't.
Now, they might wonder WHY the lunatic's name wasn't in the database. It would be easier to prosecute the mental health professionals who did not follow the required procedures.
But in order to be convicted of a crime and sent to prison, you must break the law. The gun dealers broke no law.
No, they cannot. Unless you completely rewrite the definition of accessory.
Yes, I do think the jury is going to care. They will see that the gun dealer used the proper procedures, followed the law, and got the approval of the federal gov't.
Now, they might wonder WHY the lunatic's name wasn't in the database. It would be easier to prosecute the mental health professionals who did not follow the required procedures.
But in order to be convicted of a crime and sent to prison, you must break the law. The gun dealers broke no law.
again, you bring your database.
I'll bring grieving family members and autopsy photos...
No, I bring the law. You bring fantasy and the audacity to prey on the families of victims.
No, I bring the law. You bring fantasy and the audacity to prey on the families of victims.
the only person who preyed on the families were the gun industry and the nuts they happily sell to.
The gun dealer committed no crime. You can stamp your feet and throw tantrums all day long, but that does not change unless you change the laws. Good luck with that one.
The person responsible for the murders is the one who pulled the trigger. The one who sold the gun, and followed all the rules, laws, and regulations, is not responsible. If anyone else is responsible, it would be those who failed to update the system used to determine who is not allowed to buy a firearm.
The gun dealer committed no crime. You can stamp your feet and throw tantrums all day long, but that does not change unless you change the laws. Good luck with that one.
again, you can get a grand jury to indict a ham sandwich.
The person responsible for the murders is the one who pulled the trigger. The one who sold the gun, and followed all the rules, laws, and regulations, is not responsible. If anyone else is responsible, it would be those who failed to update the system used to determine who is not allowed to buy a firearm.
No, it was a gun industry that insisted on selling guns to crazy people.
Because Foundign Fathers... or something.
Throw a few of them in prison, make them pay a few million dollar judgements, like big tobacco did, and they aren't going to be so keen on that.
No, your fear is too expensive for the rest of US. Your fears do not trump my rights. Perhaps you should take some Valium or something.
32,000 dead a year. Not worth your fetish.
The gun dealer committed no crime. You can stamp your feet and throw tantrums all day long, but that does not change unless you change the laws. Good luck with that one.
again, you can get a grand jury to indict a ham sandwich.
The person responsible for the murders is the one who pulled the trigger. The one who sold the gun, and followed all the rules, laws, and regulations, is not responsible. If anyone else is responsible, it would be those who failed to update the system used to determine who is not allowed to buy a firearm.
No, it was a gun industry that insisted on selling guns to crazy people.
Because Foundign Fathers... or something.
Throw a few of them in prison, make them pay a few million dollar judgements, like big tobacco did, and they aren't going to be so keen on that.
No, they cannot. Unless you completely rewrite the definition of accessory.
Yes, I do think the jury is going to care. They will see that the gun dealer used the proper procedures, followed the law, and got the approval of the federal gov't.
Now, they might wonder WHY the lunatic's name wasn't in the database. It would be easier to prosecute the mental health professionals who did not follow the required procedures.
But in order to be convicted of a crime and sent to prison, you must break the law. The gun dealers broke no law.
again, you bring your database.
I'll bring grieving family members and autopsy photos...
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There's a reason why Germany only locks up 68,000 people and we lock up 2 million.
How much bigger is the US population wise? Hello?
Wow, so in addition to being batshit crazy, you are also bad at math.
Okay- let's try this.
USA - Population 308,000,000 - we lock up 2,000,000 people. We lock up one out of 154 citizens.
Germany has a population of 80,000,000. they lock up 78,000* people. They lock up 1 out of 1000 people. Japan has a population of 110,000,000, and locks up 68,000 people. They lock up one out of 1410 people.
(*Correction, I flipped Japan and Germany's numbers.)
We lock up a ridiculous amount of people. We have a ridiculous amount of guns. and we have the highest crime rates in the Industrial World.
If Guns and prisons made us safer, why aren't we safer?
The gun dealer committed no crime. You can stamp your feet and throw tantrums all day long, but that does not change unless you change the laws. Good luck with that one.
again, you can get a grand jury to indict a ham sandwich.
The person responsible for the murders is the one who pulled the trigger. The one who sold the gun, and followed all the rules, laws, and regulations, is not responsible. If anyone else is responsible, it would be those who failed to update the system used to determine who is not allowed to buy a firearm.
No, it was a gun industry that insisted on selling guns to crazy people.
Because Foundign Fathers... or something.
Throw a few of them in prison, make them pay a few million dollar judgements, like big tobacco did, and they aren't going to be so keen on that.
It's not a "fetish." It's a constitutionally guaranteed right, as well as a natural right - the right to self defense. You're scared? Too bad, so sad. Like I said, your illogical and delusional fears do not trump everyone elses' rights. Got it?
"Because founding fathers or something?" God, what an idiot you are.
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Wow, so in addition to being batshit crazy, you are also bad at math.
Okay- let's try this.
USA - Population 308,000,000 - we lock up 2,000,000 people. We lock up one out of 154 citizens.
Germany has a population of 80,000,000. they lock up 78,000* people. They lock up 1 out of 1000 people. Japan has a population of 110,000,000, and locks up 68,000 people. They lock up one out of 1410 people.
(*Correction, I flipped Japan and Germany's numbers.)
We lock up a ridiculous amount of people. We have a ridiculous amount of guns. and we have the highest crime rates in the Industrial World.
If Guns and prisons made us safer, why aren't we safer?