French Parliament Votes to Recognize Palestinian State

[Humanity]

Oh how I yearn for a Palestinian State with self determination so the Palestinians won't be able to suck off of Israel anymore to provide for them. The problem is where to put it as no surrounding Arab country will grant their Palestinians a right of return back to the indigenous homelands.

Maybe if the other Arab countries can be convinced that these so-called Palestinian Arabs don't have roots in Israel, they might be willing to take them back. Perhaps Mr. S, can convince them.

A Tour and Census of Palestine Year 1695 No sign of Arabian names or 8220 Palestinians 8221 Palestine-Israel Conflict

Why would you want to convince them of a lie?

No lie.

Sure it is. The Palestinians are from that area, just like the Jews are.

The Arabs started at the Arabian Peninsula and spread out when Big Mo started his assault on the world.

Where did the Israelites start from Tex?

 

[Phoenall]

Oh how I yearn for a Palestinian State with self determination so the Palestinians won't be able to suck off of Israel anymore to provide for them. The problem is where to put it as no surrounding Arab country will grant their Palestinians a right of return back to the indigenous homelands.

Maybe if the other Arab countries can be convinced that these so-called Palestinian Arabs don't have roots in Israel, they might be willing to take them back. Perhaps Mr. S, can convince them.

A Tour and Census of Palestine Year 1695 No sign of Arabian names or 8220 Palestinians 8221 Palestine-Israel Conflict

Why would you want to convince them of a lie?

No lie.

Sure it is. The Palestinians are from that area, just like the Jews are.

The Palestinians are the Jews right uo until the arab muslims stole the name to give their illegal claims credibility. How much support do you think they would get if they were called Syrians or Jordanians. Remember that little truth and you will soon start to see through the rest of their LIES.

 

[Phoenall]

France’s Socialist-led parliament has passed a symbolic vote to recognize Palestinian statehood, despite staunch objections from Israel. MPs in Britain and Spain have already passed similar motions.
The proposal was passed with 339 votes in favor and 151 against, meaning that it was supported by more than two-thirds of French lawmakers.Israel immediately responded, saying that the motion would “harm the peace process,” AFP reported.'
French Parliament Votes to Recognize Palestinian State
Good for them

So, palistanians can't really claim they don't have a state, can they?

They've always had one, unfortunately most of it is occupied by Zionist invaders...for the moment.

Which does not stop the Palestinians from setting up a government, raising taxes, building homes and providing welfare for their people. It seems they prefer to engage in violence, terrorism and belligerence while mooching of the rest of the world to pay for the terroprism.

What silly comment Phoney....

Did you not read what you were responding to?

"unfortunately most of it is occupied by Zionist invaders"

Not as silly as yours as there are no Zionist invaders, they were invited to settle by the LEGAL LAND OWNERS UNDER CUSTOMARU INTERNATIONAL LAW. The arab muslims don't have that to fall back on do they.

 

[Coyote]

France’s Socialist-led parliament has passed a symbolic vote to recognize Palestinian statehood, despite staunch objections from Israel. MPs in Britain and Spain have already passed similar motions.
The proposal was passed with 339 votes in favor and 151 against, meaning that it was supported by more than two-thirds of French lawmakers.Israel immediately responded, saying that the motion would “harm the peace process,” AFP reported.'
French Parliament Votes to Recognize Palestinian State
Good for them

So, palistanians can't really claim they don't have a state, can they?

They've always had one, unfortunately most of it is occupied by Zionist invaders...for the moment.

Which does not stop the Palestinians from setting up a government, raising taxes, building homes and providing welfare for their people. It seems they prefer to engage in violence, terrorism and belligerence while mooching of the rest of the world to pay for the terroprism.

What silly comment Phoney....

Did you not read what you were responding to?

"unfortunately most of it is occupied by Zionist invaders"

Not as silly as yours as there are no Zionist invaders, they were invited to settle by the LEGAL LAND OWNERS UNDER CUSTOMARU INTERNATIONAL LAW. The arab muslims don't have that to fall back on do they.

Not exactly. There was also illegal Jewish immigration during the Mandate.

 

[Phoenall]

Maybe if the other Arab countries can be convinced that these so-called Palestinian Arabs don't have roots in Israel, they might be willing to take them back. Perhaps Mr. S, can convince them.

A Tour and Census of Palestine Year 1695 No sign of Arabian names or 8220 Palestinians 8221 Palestine-Israel Conflict

Why would you want to convince them of a lie?

Your evidence that it is a LIE, and from a non partisan source as well

Palestinian people - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Genetic analysis suggests that a majority of the Muslims of Palestine, inclusive of Arab citizens of Israel, are descendants of Christians, Jews and other earlier inhabitants of the southern Levant whose core may reach back to prehistoric times. A study of high-resolution haplotypes demonstrated that a substantial portion of Y chromosomes of Israeli Jews (70%) and of Palestinian Muslim Arabs (82%) belonged to the same chromosome pool.[31] Since the time of the Muslim conquests in the 7th century, religious conversions have resulted in Palestinians being predominantly Sunni Muslim by religious affiliation, though there is a significant Palestinian Christian minority of various Christian denominations, as well as Druze and a small Samaritan community. Though Palestinian Jews made up part of the population of Palestine prior to the creation of the State of Israel, few identify as "Palestinian" today. Acculturation, independent from conversion to Islam, resulted in Palestinians being linguistically and culturally Arab.[16] The vernacular of Palestinians, irrespective of religion, is the Palestinian dialect of Arabic. Many Arab citizens of Israel, including Palestinians, are bilingual and fluent in Hebrew.​

Sourced from:

1. Dowty, Alan (2008). Israel/Palestine. London, UK: Polity. p. 221. ISBN 978-0-7456-4243-7. Palestinians are the descendants of all the indigenous peoples who lived in Palestine over the centuries; since the seventh century, they have been predominantly Muslim in religion and almost completely Arab in language and culture.
2. 'Palestinians are an indigenous people who either live in, or originate from, historical Palestine... Although the Muslims guaranteed security and allowed religious freedom to all inhabitants of the region, the majority converted to Islam and adopted Arab culture.' Bassam Abu-Libdeh, Peter D. Turnpenny, and Ahmed Teebi, ‘Genetic Disease in Palestine and Palestinians,’ in Dhavendra Kuma (ed.) Genomics and Health in the Developing World, OUP 2012 pp.700-711, p.700.

And genetic studies show that humans share 85% OF THEIR HAPLOTYPE DNA WITH A BANANA. So a 70% match is to be expected with say Australian Aborigines or lost Amazon tribes. Try looking for another source that looks at the mitochondrial DNA, which can pinpoint a persons origins. You use this same source even when it is shown that it is from a pro Palestinian source Joseph E Saad

Point out exactly where the source is wrong. Genetics are used to trace the migrations and movements of people fairly accurately. This isn't bannanas or australian aborigines.

I did in my reply that told you the facts used prove nothing as the same facts prove that we are an 85% match for bananas. And every human being has the same 85% match in their DNA.It is when you go into the remaining 15% that you see the true matches, and there are not any between Jews and arabs. It is like saying because chalk is white it must be closely related to milk.

 

[Humanity]

France’s Socialist-led parliament has passed a symbolic vote to recognize Palestinian statehood, despite staunch objections from Israel. MPs in Britain and Spain have already passed similar motions.
The proposal was passed with 339 votes in favor and 151 against, meaning that it was supported by more than two-thirds of French lawmakers.Israel immediately responded, saying that the motion would “harm the peace process,” AFP reported.'
French Parliament Votes to Recognize Palestinian State
Good for them

So, palistanians can't really claim they don't have a state, can they?

They've always had one, unfortunately most of it is occupied by Zionist invaders...for the moment.

Which does not stop the Palestinians from setting up a government, raising taxes, building homes and providing welfare for their people. It seems they prefer to engage in violence, terrorism and belligerence while mooching of the rest of the world to pay for the terroprism.

What silly comment Phoney....

Did you not read what you were responding to?

"unfortunately most of it is occupied by Zionist invaders"

Not as silly as yours as there are no Zionist invaders, they were invited to settle by the LEGAL LAND OWNERS UNDER CUSTOMARU INTERNATIONAL LAW. The arab muslims don't have that to fall back on do they.

Wow Phoney...

It wasn't my comment Phoney... You see... You DIDN'T read the post you were responding to did you!

AND....

You must be wearing out your keyboard the amount of time you type... COSTUMARY TINTERNATION LOWS!

 

[Lipush]

Did they get the creeps that attacked the Jewish couple yet?

Or they rather encourage Arab terrorism than deal with it?

 

[Kondor3]

...The Kurds probably should have their own state - they've certainly been royally screwed by the Powers. However - at least they have citizenship in a state. The Palestinians lack even that.

Were they not citizens of Jordan for decades?

Are they still citizens of Jordan?

Or did Jordan eventually decide that they wanted nothing to do with their mad-dog co-religionists in the West Bank and Gaza?

Not that one can blame the Jordanians, if such sentiments eventually manifested there.

 

[Kondor3]

...Good. I suppose the Palestinians deserve a "State" like Israelis, Americans, Brazilians, and the Irish do.

Sounds great.

And it'll probably happen, the minute that Egypt slices-off a piece of the SInai, to give to them, or the minutes that the Jordanians or Iraqis set aside some land for them.

Anywhere, where they're not living alongside the Israelis who have reclaimed Old Palestine for themselves.

 

[Kondor3]

No lie.

Sure it is. The Palestinians are from that area, just like the Jews are.

The Arabs started at the Arabian Peninsula and spread out when Big Mo started his assault on the world.

Yes. But there were people in Palestine that preceded the Arabs and converted to Islam.

Oftentimes, with a sword at their throat, or to avoid poverty after several generations of Infidel Taxes, and being accorded Second-Class Citizen status in Islamic courts.

I was reading a bit of the history on that. It was a gradual process that took several centuries before Islam became the major religion. While it included some immigration of Arabs from other regions it also involved the gradual conversion to Islam by some of the indigenous people: Christians, Jews, Samaritans and others in the area. At the same time, there occurred the acculteration of local people into Arab identity and the establishment of Arabic as the primary language. So the Palestinians are a mix of indiginous people and immigrant Arabs. In that sense they are no different than the Jews who during their diaspora intermarried among locals in the areas they resided in. I think it's also worthwhile to note that while you are particularly critical of "dhimmi status", "second class citizenship" and taxes as if it were something pecular to Islam - you ignore the fact this sort of treatment was common place among the aggressively growing religions of that time. Life for non-Christians in Christendom was not very kind but that is ignored and citizenship was distinctly second class.

Agreed. I've done my own share of reading on such things over the years, and can say that your assessment has considerable merit - it has some considerable truth in it.

But, in addition to the unfortunate Islam-ization of indigenous people, we must also take into account local assimilation of waves of conquerors, which provided a huge contribution to the genetic markers of that region - which H.G. Wells once described as a place for peoples to live, in the middle of a busy highway, constantly getting run-over.

 

[docmauser1]

Good. I suppose the Palestinians deserve a "State" like Israelis, Americans, Brazilians, and the Irish do.

But not like kurds, eh? Bth., palistanians have a state, recognized by France, Sweden, Spain, England, don't they?

The Kurds probably should have their own state - they've certainly been royally screwed by the Powers. However - at least they have citizenship in a state. The Palestinians lack even that.

How so? The "Palestinian Authority" passport is available to anyone waving a palistanian birth certificate.

What nation are they citizens of?

"Palestinian nation", as we read here from time to time? Palistanabadians? Who cares. Since they issue passports, the name comes with them too.

What about those still stuck in refugee camps in Syria and other nations?

That's their palistanian problem.
The ambassador unequivocally says that Palestinian refugees would not become citizens of the sought for U.N.-recognized Palestinian state, an issue that has been much discussed. “They are Palestinians, that’s their identity,” he says. “But … they are not automatically citizens.”
This would not only apply to refugees in countries such as Lebanon, Egypt, Syria and Jordan or the other 132 countries where Abdullah says Palestinians reside. Abdullah said that “even Palestinian refugees who are living in [refugee camps] inside the [Palestinian] state, they are still refugees. They will not be considered citizens.”
Abdullah said that the new Palestinian state would “absolutely not” be issuing Palestinian passports to refugees.
Neither this definitional status nor U.N. statehood, Abdullah says, would affect the eventual return of refugees to Palestine. “How the issue of the right of return will be solved I don’t know, it’s too early [to say], but it is a sacred right that has to be dealt with and solved [with] the acceptance of all.” He says statehood “will never affect the right of return for Palestinian refugees.”
For years, the world has backed a Palestinian state on the grounds Palestinians are stateless people who deserve a country of their own. And now, a senior Palestinian official has announced once they have received a state, most Palestinians will still be stateless – even those who actually live in “Palestine.”
Moreover, the new state won’t provide these residents with any services: It expects UNRWA – or, more accurately, the American and European taxpayers who provide the bulk of that organization’s funding – to continue providing their schooling, healthcare, welfare allowances, etc.
Indeed, if palistanians don't recognize their own - they hate jews more, than they love their own. And make money on that too.

 

[Coyote]

Good. I suppose the Palestinians deserve a "State" like Israelis, Americans, Brazilians, and the Irish do.

But not like kurds, eh? Bth., palistanians have a state, recognized by France, Sweden, Spain, England, don't they?

The Kurds probably should have their own state - they've certainly been royally screwed by the Powers. However - at least they have citizenship in a state. The Palestinians lack even that.

How so? The "Palestinian Authority" passport is available to anyone waving a palistanian birth certificate.

What nation are they citizens of?

"Palestinian nation", as we read here from time to time? Palistanabadians? Who cares. Since they issue passports, the name comes with them too.

What about those still stuck in refugee camps in Syria and other nations?

That's their palistanian problem.
The ambassador unequivocally says that Palestinian refugees would not become citizens of the sought for U.N.-recognized Palestinian state, an issue that has been much discussed. “They are Palestinians, that’s their identity,” he says. “But … they are not automatically citizens.”
This would not only apply to refugees in countries such as Lebanon, Egypt, Syria and Jordan or the other 132 countries where Abdullah says Palestinians reside. Abdullah said that “even Palestinian refugees who are living in [refugee camps] inside the [Palestinian] state, they are still refugees. They will not be considered citizens.”
Abdullah said that the new Palestinian state would “absolutely not” be issuing Palestinian passports to refugees.
Neither this definitional status nor U.N. statehood, Abdullah says, would affect the eventual return of refugees to Palestine. “How the issue of the right of return will be solved I don’t know, it’s too early [to say], but it is a sacred right that has to be dealt with and solved [with] the acceptance of all.” He says statehood “will never affect the right of return for Palestinian refugees.”
For years, the world has backed a Palestinian state on the grounds Palestinians are stateless people who deserve a country of their own. And now, a senior Palestinian official has announced once they have received a state, most Palestinians will still be stateless – even those who actually live in “Palestine.”
Moreover, the new state won’t provide these residents with any services: It expects UNRWA – or, more accurately, the American and European taxpayers who provide the bulk of that organization’s funding – to continue providing their schooling, healthcare, welfare allowances, etc.
Indeed, if palistanians don't recognize their own - they hate jews more, than they love their own. And make money on that too.

What are the borders of that nation?

There's no nation thus no citizenship - just passports.

When they get their nation, they will have to accept the refugees - at least as many as they can. I don't see that refusal going over well in the international community.

 

[Hossfly]

Maybe if the other Arab countries can be convinced that these so-called Palestinian Arabs don't have roots in Israel, they might be willing to take them back. Perhaps Mr. S, can convince them.

A Tour and Census of Palestine Year 1695 No sign of Arabian names or 8220 Palestinians 8221 Palestine-Israel Conflict

Why would you want to convince them of a lie?

No lie.

Sure it is. The Palestinians are from that area, just like the Jews are.

The Arabs started at the Arabian Peninsula and spread out when Big Mo started his assault on the world.

Where did the Israelites start from Tex?

Nobody really knows. They just showed up one day like a herd of Jehovah's Witnesses.

 

[Alex.]

France’s Socialist-led parliament has passed a symbolic vote to recognize Palestinian statehood, despite staunch objections from Israel. MPs in Britain and Spain have already passed similar motions.


The proposal was passed with 339 votes in favor and 151 against, meaning that it was supported by more than two-thirds of French lawmakers.


Israel immediately responded, saying that the motion would “harm the peace process,” AFP reported.'
French Parliament Votes to Recognize Palestinian State
Good for them

Seems like anything France does is symbolic. They better start thinking about what happened at Waterloo and how their jihadist friends will further wreak havoc on thier society before they take a real vote.

 

[Humanity]

Why would you want to convince them of a lie?

No lie.

Sure it is. The Palestinians are from that area, just like the Jews are.

The Arabs started at the Arabian Peninsula and spread out when Big Mo started his assault on the world.

Where did the Israelites start from Tex?

Nobody really knows. They just showed up one day like a herd of Jehovah's Witnesses.

Is that right Tex?

"Nobody really knows"?

You dumb schmuck... Let me help you.... The Israelites were commanded by that 'big guy in the sky' to leave EGYPT and invade Canaan and the surrounding lands...

 

[Kondor3]

No lie.

Sure it is. The Palestinians are from that area, just like the Jews are.

The Arabs started at the Arabian Peninsula and spread out when Big Mo started his assault on the world.

Where did the Israelites start from Tex?

Nobody really knows. They just showed up one day like a herd of Jehovah's Witnesses.

Is that right Tex?

"Nobody really knows"?

You dumb schmuck... Let me help you.... The Israelites were commanded by that 'big guy in the sky' to leave EGYPT and invade Canaan and the surrounding lands...

Not that I put much stock in such things, but...

Where were the Israelites living when Joseph was sold into slavery, 400 years prior to the Exodus?

The fellow who encouraged the rest of the Israelites to migrate into Egypt during a famine...

Where were those Israelites, again, before they migrated and became enslaved?

 

[Hossfly]

No lie.

Sure it is. The Palestinians are from that area, just like the Jews are.

The Arabs started at the Arabian Peninsula and spread out when Big Mo started his assault on the world.

Where did the Israelites start from Tex?

Nobody really knows. They just showed up one day like a herd of Jehovah's Witnesses.

Is that right Tex?

"Nobody really knows"?

You dumb schmuck... Let me help you.... The Israelites were commanded by that 'big guy in the sky' to leave EGYPT and invade Canaan and the surrounding lands...

Are you proud of your ignorance? Don't you recognize sarcasm when you read it, heathen?

 

[Humanity]

Sure it is. The Palestinians are from that area, just like the Jews are.

The Arabs started at the Arabian Peninsula and spread out when Big Mo started his assault on the world.

Where did the Israelites start from Tex?

Nobody really knows. They just showed up one day like a herd of Jehovah's Witnesses.

Is that right Tex?

"Nobody really knows"?

You dumb schmuck... Let me help you.... The Israelites were commanded by that 'big guy in the sky' to leave EGYPT and invade Canaan and the surrounding lands...

Not that I put much stock in such things, but...

Where were the Israelites living when Joseph was sold into slavery, 400 years prior to the Exodus?

The fellow who encouraged the rest of the Israelites to migrate into Egypt during a famine...

Where were those Israelites, again, before they migrated and became enslaved?

Well, as you clearly say Kondon...

"Not that I put much stock in such things"...

So, trying to make a comment kinda puts you on some shaky ground that, well, maybe you dont wanna be and you maybe wanna step back and not join Tex in looking like a dumb schmuck!

 

[Humanity]

Sure it is. The Palestinians are from that area, just like the Jews are.

The Arabs started at the Arabian Peninsula and spread out when Big Mo started his assault on the world.

Where did the Israelites start from Tex?

Nobody really knows. They just showed up one day like a herd of Jehovah's Witnesses.

Is that right Tex?

"Nobody really knows"?

You dumb schmuck... Let me help you.... The Israelites were commanded by that 'big guy in the sky' to leave EGYPT and invade Canaan and the surrounding lands...

Are you proud of your ignorance? Don't you recognize sarcasm when you read it, heathen?

You know the 'Cry wolf' story Tex?

See, when you ALWAYS sound like a dumb schmuck, then going for 'sarcasm'...

Well, kinda doesn't work dude!

So, better a heathen than a Texan!

 

[Humanity]

France’s Socialist-led parliament has passed a symbolic vote to recognize Palestinian statehood, despite staunch objections from Israel. MPs in Britain and Spain have already passed similar motions.


The proposal was passed with 339 votes in favor and 151 against, meaning that it was supported by more than two-thirds of French lawmakers.


Israel immediately responded, saying that the motion would “harm the peace process,” AFP reported.'
French Parliament Votes to Recognize Palestinian State
Good for them

Seems like anything France does is symbolic. They better start thinking about what happened at Waterloo and how their jihadist friends will further wreak havoc on thier society before they take a real vote.

Yeah man, right on...

Those Frenchies better start thinking about what happened at Waterloo....

WTF?!?!