RetiredGySgt
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again, RETARD you should actually know what you are talking about and then you won't look like a total fool.
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You attack a religion that you are clueless about. Joseph was not talking to GOD. The Angel Moroni was telling Joseph things. Polygamy then was accepted by the USA. Girls were considered mature when they could have babies. Later the law got involved.
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- #583
A lot of Americans hailed Hitler as a great leader prior to his wars. They saw the improvements in Germany. Hitler easily could show up and a crowd of a million would be there to hail him. I have said several times that war changed the impression. When he waged wars, it opened up eyes to how he really was as a ruthless dictator. He was like Biden in that in a short period he went from appearing sort of smart to losing his mind.
JoeB131
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Yet, you are unable to refute one point I made, RetardedGunnerySgt.
So wait... hold on. Are you saying the Angel Moroni misled J. Smith when he told him dark skin was a curse from God, and that it was okay for him to **** all those 14-year-old girls? Because that seems like that was some pretty bad advice.
No, it wasn't. Bigamy was illegal in the US from the English Common Law we inherited upon independence. In fact, the ONLY reason why it became a legal issue and so many states had to pass stricter laws against it was because of the Mormons.
Again, buddy, you are a bit confused. Yes, 14-year-olds got married when they got knocked up by other 14-year-olds. Back in the day, they didn't have birth control and abortion was a dicey proposition. A 34-year-old cult leader marrying a bunch of them was still considered pretty ******* creepy at the time, which is why THIS happened.
And not a one of them was found guilty!!!
No, they didn't. The German American Bund, before it was outlawed, had less than 25,000 members. Even German-Americans were horrified by what Hitler was doing to "the Old Country".
Um, guy, those crowds were propaganda. A lot of Germans thought Hitler was a buffoon, but kind of like Americans today with Trump, they just went along with it.
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- #585
You are so bigoted you refuse to study the church to know what you are talking about.
First your crude discussion about females.
America has from the start considered when females are able to have children. Even today though the law decides they have no rights until they are 18 in most states, for decades this nation saw those women you talk about as child bearing and as adults.
Moroni was not involved with the mark of Cain issue.
Now, there were two Joseph Smith's and not just one.
This is from the church so it is not my opinion at all.
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President Joseph Fielding Smith (1876–1972) taught:
“Cain had the great honor of being Adam’s son, and he, too, was privileged with the same blessings as his father. What a mighty man he could have been! How his name might have stood out with excellent luster as that of one of the valiant sons of God! How he might have been honored to the latest generation! But he would have none of it!
“Cain’s great sin was not committed in ignorance. We have every reason to believe that he had the privilege of standing in the presence of messengers from heaven. In fact the scriptures infer that he was blessed by communication with the Father and was instructed by messengers from his presence. No doubt he held the Priesthood; otherwise his sin could not make of him Perdition. He sinned against the light. And this he did, so we are told, because he loved Satan more than he loved God.
“From the Bible one might infer that Cain was the first born child of Adam, but the Bible gives only a meager history. In the Book of Moses we obtain a more extended view and a better insight into conditions in that early day. Adam and Eve were the parents of numerous children, sons and daughters, even before Cain and Abel were born, as we gain the information from that story” (The Way to Perfection, 6th ed. [1946], 97–98).
The Prophet Joseph Smith (1805–44) taught that Abel “magnified the priesthood which was conferred upon him and died a righteous man, and therefore has become … an angel of God by receiving his body from the dead, therefore holding still the keys of his dispensation” (“Instruction on Priesthood, 5 October 1840,” 4–5, josephsmithpapers.org).
Moses 5:18–21. Cain Made an Offering
The Prophet Joseph Smith taught: “By faith in this atonement or plan of redemption, Abel offered to God a sacrifice that was accepted, which was the firstlings of the flock. Cain offered of the fruit of the ground, and was not accepted, because he could not do it in faith: he could have no faith, or could not exercise faith contrary to the plan of heaven. It must be shedding the blood of the Only Begotten to atone for man, for this was the plan of redemption, and without the shedding of blood was no remission. And as the sacrifice was instituted for a type by which man was to discern the great Sacrifice which God had prepared, to offer a sacrifice contrary to that, no faith could be exercised, because redemption was not purchased in that way, nor the power of atonement instituted after that order; consequently Cain could have no faith; and whatsoever is not of faith, is sin” (Teachings of Presidents of the Church: Joseph Smith [2007], 48).Moses 5:21–22. “Why Is Thy Countenance Fallen?”
One meaning of countenance is the expression on a person’s face, which may reveal the mood, emotion, or feelings of the heart.Moses 5:23–26. Cain Exercised His Agency and Chose to Rebel against God.
President Joseph F. Smith (1838–1918) taught: “God has given to all men an agency and has granted to us the privilege to serve him or serve him not, to do that which is right or that which is wrong, and this privilege is given to all men irrespective of creed, color or condition. The wealthy have this agency, the poor have this agency, and no man is deprived by any power of God from exercising it in the fullest and in the freest manner. This agency has been given to all. This is a blessing that God has bestowed upon the world of mankind, upon all his children alike. But he will hold us strictly to an account for the use that we make of this agency, and as it was said of Cain, so it will be said of us; ‘If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door’ (Gen. 4:7). There are, however, certain blessings which God bestows upon the children of men only upon the condition of the rightful exercise of this agency” (Gospel Doctrine, 5th ed. [1939], 49).Moses 5:23–30. Will Cain Rule over Satan?
The Prophet Joseph Smith taught that “all beings who have bodies have power over those who have not” (Teachings: Joseph Smith, 211). Because Cain came to earth and received a body, he has greater power than Satan. Elder Bruce R. McConkie (1915–85) of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles taught that Cain “will rule over Satan himself when the devil and his angels are cast out everlastingly” (A New Witness for the Articles of Faith [1985], 658).
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- #586
I said polygamy. You admit it was later that laws were passed.
Here is more history for you.
English Common law has been the law over the eastern states.
The Western States use Spanish law.
See the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo.'
Polygamy has never been legally recognized or culturally normative in the United States. However, it was practiced by some members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS Church) in the early 1840s. The practice was called plural marriage, and was a significant political and social issue in the United States in the 1850s.
Here are some key events in the history of polygamy in the United States:
- 1840s
The LDS Church began practicing plural marriage, which is when one man marries more than one woman.
- 1852
The LDS Church publicly acknowledged plural marriage as part of its doctrine.
- 1862
The U.S. government outlawed polygamy and limited the LDS Church's ability to acquire property.
- 1874
The Poland Act was passed, which gave the federal government more control over Utah and allowed for the criminal prosecution of men with multiple wives.
- 1882
The Edmunds Anti-Polygamy Act was passed, which made polygamy unlawful.
- 1890
The LDS Church president announced that the church would no longer practice plural marriage. However, some Mormon fundamentalist groups still practice polygamy today.
- I am not in that fundamentalist group. I once knew one of them when he worked for my Uncle in Salt Lake City,
Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo (1848)
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Citation: Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo [Exchange copy]; 2/2/1848; Perfected Treaties, 1778 - 1945; General Records of the United States Government, Record Group 11; National Archives Building, Washington, DC.
This is the exchange copy of the treaty, written in both Spanish and English. This copy, given to the United States by Mexico, provides proof that the treaty was ratified by the Mexican government.
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This treaty, signed on February 2, 1848, ended the war between the United States and Mexico. By its terms, Mexico ceded 55 percent of its territory, including the present-day states California, Nevada, Utah, New Mexico, most of Arizona and Colorado, and parts of Oklahoma, Kansas, and Wyoming. Mexico also relinquished all claims to Texas, and recognized the Rio Grande as the southern boundary with the United States.
The Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo, which brought an official end to the Mexican-American War (1846-48), was signed on February 2, 1848, at Guadalupe Hidalgo, a city to which the Mexican government had fled with the advance of U.S. forces.
With the defeat of its army and the fall of the capital, Mexico City, in September 1847, the Mexican government surrendered to the United States and entered into negotiations to end the war. The peace talks were negotiated by Nicholas Trist, chief clerk of the State Department, who had accompanied General Winfield Scott as a diplomat and President Polk's representative. Trist and General Scott, after two previous unsuccessful attempts to negotiate a treaty with President Santa Anna, determined that the only way to deal with Mexico was as a conquered enemy. Nicholas Trist negotiated with a special commission representing the collapsed government led by Don Bernardo Couto, Don Miguel Atristain, and Don Luis Gonzaga Cuevas.
President Polk had recalled Trist in October 1847 under the belief that negotiations would be carried out with a Mexican delegation in Washington. In the six weeks it took to deliver Polk's message, Trist received word that the Mexican government had named its special commission to negotiate. Trist determined that Washington did not understand the situation in Mexico and negotiated the peace treaty in defiance of the president.
In a December 4, 1847, letter to his wife, Trist wrote, "Knowing it to be the very last chance and impressed with the dreadful consequences to our country which cannot fail to attend the loss of that chance, I decided today at noon to attempt to make a treaty; the decision is altogether my own."
Trist sent a copy to Washington, and President Polk forwarded the treaty to the Senate for their advice and consent. When the Senate reluctantly ratified the treaty (by a vote of 34 to 14) on March 10, 1848, it removed Article X guaranteeing the protection of Mexican land grants. Following the ratification, the United States withdrew its troops from the Mexican capital.
With the annexation of more than 525,000 square miles of land, the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo extended the boundaries of the United States west to the Pacific Ocean. This agreement, along with the 1853 Gadsden Purchase, created the southern border of the present-day United States.
The U.S. government paid Mexico $15 million "in consideration of the extension acquired by the boundaries of the United States" and agreed to pay American citizens debts owed to them by the Mexican government. Other provisions included the protection of property and civil rights of Mexican nationals living within the new boundaries of the United States, the promise of the United States to police its boundaries, and compulsory arbitration of future disputes between the two countries.- Part of the treaty included citizens of the new USA would function under Spanish law.
RetiredGySgt
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you realize he won't read any of that? He prefers to be ignorant and clueless.
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- #588
You never bothered to study the laws of the USA.
When females of child bearing age could marry men. It did not mention 14 year old men. And that is stupid anyway since 14 year old men in those days were mostly poverty stricken.
I have no clue at all why you call the LDS church a cult. I shrug if off due to the bigot who says that. Had you even attended one church service at all, you would never say that about the church.
You think all he wanted was such youth. But men in the church got murdered just as Joseph Smith got murdered. And in this country, that is a capital crime. When marriages ended due to death of the male, Joseph was able to shield the women by marrying them. It was not the crude thing you in your distorted bigoted imagination you talk of. I would believe the women in question married him with their consent.
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That is true. But I wanted the truth to be known. That person is vicious. He thinks it was great that Ashli Babbitt was murdered in cold blood. He thinks if you are black, you get to violate laws and the cops who hold them down should go to prison. His mind is really twisted up.
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First the truth of the death of Joseph Smith. (Not Joseph Fielding Smith)
Joseph was held in the 2nd floor of the jail. And Several men went upstairs to murder Joseph Smith.
The history follows:
Museum Treasures
While we do not know the name of the man who owned this powder horn, we do know the names of several men who helped organize and carry out the plan to kill the Prophet Joseph.
When we speak of the mob that killed Joseph and Hyrum Smith in Carthage Jail, we sometimes forget that each of these men had names and lives. One of these men, from the militia in the neighboring town of Warsaw, Illinois, commemorated his participation in the killings on this horn, which carried his gunpowder: “Warsaw Regulators, The end of the Polygamist Joseph Smith kilt at Carthage Jail June 27, 1844.”1
While we do not know the name of the man who owned this powder horn, we do know the names of several men who helped organize and carry out the plan to kill the Prophet Joseph. As two commentators have stated, “The murder of Joseph and Hyrum Smith at Carthage, Illinois, was not a spontaneous, impulsive act by a few personal enemies of the Mormon leaders, but a deliberate political assassination, committed or condoned by some of the leading citizens in Hancock County [Illinois].”2
Joseph Smith had faced opposition, suspicion, and persecution most of his life, from the time he first saw God the Father and His Son, Jesus Christ, at age 14. As the Church grew, opposition shifted from mockery of the religious beliefs of Church members to distrust and fear of the Church’s—and Joseph Smith’s—growing political power.
In Nauvoo, Illinois, conflict that had simmered for years came to a boil when Joseph and the city council ordered the destruction of the Nauvoo Expositor press. The Nauvoo Expositor was a newspaper published by apostate members of the Church who were opposed to plural marriage, a practice that had been growing in Nauvoo. The paper argued that Joseph Smith “had too much power, that polygamy was whoredom in disguise, and that the Nauvoo charter should be unconditionally repealed.”3
The members of the Nauvoo city council, which was led by Joseph Smith, felt that the paper was slanderous and ruled it a nuisance. By their interpretation of the rights granted to them by the state in the Nauvoo charter, the council believed they were legally justified in destroying the press.
Upon hearing of the paper’s destruction, residents of neighboring cities Carthage and Warsaw held mass meetings, declaring the act tyrannical.4 A judge in Carthage issued an arrest warrant for Joseph and Hyrum, charging that destroying the press amounted to inciting a riot.
Others did not trust the law to resolve the situation. Thomas Sharp, editor of the Warsaw Signal, wrote, “We hold ourselves at all times in readyness to co-operate with our fellow citizens . . . to exterminate, utterly exterminate, the wicked and abominable Mormon leaders.” He even called for an attack on Nauvoo, declaring, “Strike them! For the time has fully come.”5
Hearing these threats, Joseph Smith was reluctant to go to trial in Carthage and sought resolution from nearby judges. He also declared martial law in Nauvoo to protect the residents in case of an attack. This act angered neighbors even further, and citizens charged him with treason.
Joseph called upon Governor Thomas Ford to resolve the conflict. The governor promised to protect Joseph and Hyrum if they would answer the charges against them in Carthage. The protection he offered, however, came from the “Mormon-hating” Carthage militia, who offered only “token resistance” to the men attacking the jail.6
Of the approximately 100 men involved in the attack that killed Joseph and Hyrum Smith, only nine were indicted. Four immediately fled, including a Mr. Gallaher, who, according to one witness, was the first to shoot Joseph Smith.7 Only five men were brought to trial: Thomas C. Sharp, publisher of the Warsaw Signal, an anti-Mormon newspaper; Levi Williams, colonel and commanding officer of the 59th Regiment of the Illinois militia; Mark Aldrich, commander of the Warsaw Independent Battalion; William N. Grover, captain of the Warsaw Rifle Company; and Jacob C. Davis, state senator and commander of the Warsaw Cadets.
The prosecution argued that even if these men did not fire a shot at Carthage Jail, “they did direct the arm that did strike the fatal blow.”8 While many people believed them to be guilty, no one was convicted for the murders. After they were acquitted, each man continued his life as a respected citizen in his community.9
While many people hoped that the death of Joseph Smith would also mean the end of the Mormons, today millions of Church members around the world join in singing, “Hail to the Prophet, ascended to heaven! / Traitors and tyrants now fight him in vain. / Mingling with Gods, he can plan for his brethren; / Death cannot conquer the hero again.”10
Again, I happened to be engaged in 1964 to Jutta Calbus of Berlin, Germany. I broke it off back in the United states with regret.
She was born when the Nazis controlled Germany. Her parents were living in Germany prior to the Nazis and also under the Communists. At that time I was not willing to be confrontational with her or her parents. She was the only child. She was 22 I believe when we got engaged and I mailed her rings.
She published the announcement in Berlin and told me when we talked on the telephone.
Now there is abundant film proving that the German citizens adored Hitler. Der Fuhrer means the leader. Heil Hitler is simply Hail Hitler. That is more common in Europe.
Haven't you hailed your leader Biden?
There definitely was tons of propaganda in the world at the time of Hitler. Still you see it now when it comes to Putin and Zelensky. We have Americans devoted to Putin. I mean at least tens of thousands of them. They accept Putins propaganda
I am a good many years your senior. I was born before Hitler conquered Poland. And as a child we heard daily about World War 2.
You know Democrats history and they adore FDR., But that man gets tons of blame for the USA getting mixed up with his world war. He baited the Japanese and told the jews go **** yourself when they came near us from Germany on the Ship St. Louis.
Who do you think gave FDR the idea to build in the USA? He saw what Hitler did in Germany. And Germans went from super poverty before him to well off after he took power. Germans did not want him to go to war. But they had it so good at first nothing they could do could stop it. They were accustomed to believing in Hitler as you are in believing in Democrats presidents.
In May 1939, the German liner St. Louis sailed from Hamburg, Germany, to Havana, Cuba. The 937 passengers were almost all Jewish refugees. Cuba's government refused to allow the ship to land. The United States and Canada were unwilling to admit the passengers. The St. Louis passengers were finally permitted to land in western European countries rather than return to Nazi Germany. Ultimately, 254 St. Louis passengers were killed in the Holocaust.
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- #591
Who talked to GOD in 1882 when Polygamy finally was outlawed?
When did GOD order the murder of Joseph Smith?
JoeB131
Diamond Member
I struck mother lode of crazy on a Mormon... Weeeee
I'm just not brainwashed like you are.
Now, because you keep trying to distract onto other tangents, I'll try to keep this focused.
I think you missed the point of the discussion. A 34-year-old man "marrying" a bunch of 14-year-old girls would be considered creepy today, and it was considered equally creepy then. That's why the Navou Inquisitor exposed it as the scandal it was and Smith destroyed their offices.
Guy, I wasn't talking about J.F. Smith (who is kind of boring). Nor the Mark of Cain.
The "Dark Skin is a curse from God comes from two sources. One of them being the Book of Mormon itself, which held that the Lamanites were cursed with dark skin for killing the Nephites. They are supposedly the ancestors of the Native Americans today. Because a 19th Century racist like Joseph Smith, Jr. couldn't conceive of Native Americans being responsible for the artifacts being discovered of the Mound Builder civilizations.
The other is the Curse of Ham. This isn't unique to Mormons, the belief that African peoples descended from Ham and were cursed because Ham laughed at Noah's nakedness. But it is part of your religion. Or it was until they threatened to stop playing with BYU and yank your tax exemptions.
Dummy, laws were CLARIFIED. Bigamy was STILL a crime before they had to really come down hard on it because of the shit Mormons were pulling. Nobody thought it was okay at the time.
Naw, they were expected to go to work and support a family after they got little Sally knocked up, that was the thing. But a 34 year old who started hitting on Little Sally would be tarred and feathered.
As much as I rip on the Catholics, the Priests didn't tell the rest of my relatives to shun me because I stopped believing.
He had an opportunity to get all the ***** and he did. It's just not more complicated than that.
Point was, the fine people of Western Illinois just got fed up with Smith and his whacky followers and decided to do something about it. You can't blame them. Smith was calling himself a General, and stomping around the local woods with armed troops. The good folks of Carthage had good reason to be worried.
I've studied your deranged cult quite extensively.
I'm just not brainwashed like you are.
Now, because you keep trying to distract onto other tangents, I'll try to keep this focused.
I think you missed the point of the discussion. A 34-year-old man "marrying" a bunch of 14-year-old girls would be considered creepy today, and it was considered equally creepy then. That's why the Navou Inquisitor exposed it as the scandal it was and Smith destroyed their offices.
Guy, I wasn't talking about J.F. Smith (who is kind of boring). Nor the Mark of Cain.
The "Dark Skin is a curse from God comes from two sources. One of them being the Book of Mormon itself, which held that the Lamanites were cursed with dark skin for killing the Nephites. They are supposedly the ancestors of the Native Americans today. Because a 19th Century racist like Joseph Smith, Jr. couldn't conceive of Native Americans being responsible for the artifacts being discovered of the Mound Builder civilizations.
The other is the Curse of Ham. This isn't unique to Mormons, the belief that African peoples descended from Ham and were cursed because Ham laughed at Noah's nakedness. But it is part of your religion. Or it was until they threatened to stop playing with BYU and yank your tax exemptions.
Dummy, laws were CLARIFIED. Bigamy was STILL a crime before they had to really come down hard on it because of the shit Mormons were pulling. Nobody thought it was okay at the time.
Naw, they were expected to go to work and support a family after they got little Sally knocked up, that was the thing. But a 34 year old who started hitting on Little Sally would be tarred and feathered.
Actually, I call it a cult because it acts like a cult. Leaders who can never be wrong, Shunning people who leave the faith.
As much as I rip on the Catholics, the Priests didn't tell the rest of my relatives to shun me because I stopped believing.
He had an opportunity to get all the ***** and he did. It's just not more complicated than that.
I wasn't talking about JF Smith. (Again, he's boring. His biggest goal in life was probably getting invited to the inter-faith pancake breakfast.)
Point was, the fine people of Western Illinois just got fed up with Smith and his whacky followers and decided to do something about it. You can't blame them. Smith was calling himself a General, and stomping around the local woods with armed troops. The good folks of Carthage had good reason to be worried.
JoeB131
Diamond Member
Nobody talked to God. God was too busy "not existing".
They were listening to the voices in their heads.
We have medications for that now.
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There are so many things around you that you can't explain. A lot you can't explain is on Earth and a hell of a lot more is out in Space. But as you say, you get medications.
JoeB131
Diamond Member
Ashli Babbit wasn't murdered in cold Blood. Lt. Byrd did not go to bed that night thinking, "You know, I'm gonna shoot me a white ***** tomorrow at the Capitol!" That would be cold blood.
What he did do is when confronted with an angry mob intent on murdering members of Congress, discharged his weapon.
As for black folks, um, yeah, if you spend nine minutes strangling a handcuffed and manacled black man to death while he begs for his life, that's murder.
Um, yeah? So what?
So? Point is, you weren't old enough to know what was going on before the war.
Now, my Grandparents came here from Germany. My father was in the US Army in WWII when we invaded Germany. (He was at Normandy, the Bulge, and liberated Nordhausen)
While Hitler no doubt had his fanatical followers (like Trump) far more Germans just gave up on democracy out of frustration (again, kind of like today.)
the only "Americans" devoted to Putin are the ones so fanatical to Trump that they believe it's okay Putin subverted our Democracy.
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I think I proved that you have not at all. You are crude. I do not use crude words to hype this topic but you sure do.
I did not start out as a Mormon. I started out like you, a no nothing about religion. My mother married a Mormon and thankfully she did.
You have talked down to not merely me, but to my entire Mormon family. My relatives vis a vs my step dad would not even talk to you the way you lie about Mormons.
You act as if you spent a lot of time going to the Mormon church. But I see clearly you would lie if you said you ever been inside one. You disgust me and that is a fact. We are not one tiny bit like Jim Jones clan. We are very respectful. We do not talk in tongues. We do not scream in church. We do not beat the hell out of drums nor use snakes as kooks do. We don't head to China either.
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Everybody that has seen all the videos saw him holding his pistol aimed right at that window. He never so much as said to the group that he would shoot. He ambushed her. That is murder in the first degree. He planned to murder anybody who was shoved up into that small window. The fact is there were 2 men busting windows. The outside of the Capitol was chock full of bomb proof windows that none of them busted. And they were not angry at all. They were wanting to be heard. And they got murdered, at least the woman was murdered.
The asshole black started fighting the cops before they first put him into the cop car. And in the car he kept fighting. And he managed to fight his way out of the car and then the cop came over to hold him. Guess when he said I Can't breathe? Well? Did you say when they first put him into the cop car? Because if you told the truth, which you refuse to do, he started that con job before he busted out of the cop car.
You are so damned blood thirsty you think it was fine that a mob murdered Joseph Smith. And he was locked into a cell when he was murdered.
JoeB131
Diamond Member
That is a stupid thing to say.
Just because we can't explain something right now, doesn't mean that it doesn't have a logical, scientific explanation that doesn't require a sky pixie.
Not that long ago, people thought thunder was angry gods and natives threw virgins into volcanos to appease angry dieties.
Thank C'Thulhu we've moved beyond that.
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You seem to believe the Germans hated Hitler and only showed up under military threat. That simply is wrong. Adolf the asshole did a hell of a lot of good or else Germany never could afford to be in wars at all. They were getting rich due to him. I don't like him nor do I like even saying things the Germans loved him for. But the Germans were eager to serve him.
I am not a part of your German history. My history is from England in fact. ****, look at the stupid masses that wanted Biden to be president until he gave his fans the finger and quit on them all.
I did serve in Germany so I got to know them pretty damned well. Also back home and in Real Estate I happened to run into natives of Germany who were then Nazis when living in Germany and they told me quite a bit.
What caused me to study Hitler a hell of a lot was when I was in Germany in the Army and found out about the book named The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich. I also note for the record you do sound more like a nazi when talking of Ashli Babbitt. This does not mean you really are one, but my god, you think murder is okay.
None of the videos of the black cop killing Ashli show he so much as told her he would shoot. Cops must warn prior to shooting to death.
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Many scientists do believe that GOD exists and created all matter. Tell me your theory of how matter was created to begin with? The problem you have is you must start with nothing at all.
The term sky applies to Earth. GOD is far more than that my German man.
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