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[JoeB131]

You act as if you spent a lot of time going to the Mormon church. But I see clearly you would lie if you said you ever been inside one. You disgust me and that is a fact. We are not one tiny bit like Jim Jones clan. We are very respectful. We do not talk in tongues. We do not scream in church. We do not beat the hell out of drums nor use snakes as kooks do. We don't head to China either.

Well, no, China would throw you guys in Jail if you sent your missionaries there. They don't tolerate cults. just ask the Fulan Gong. Much better to send them to France (where Mitt Romney avoided the draft) where they'll politely ignore you.

Now, most of my disdain for your cult comes from when I encountered some BYU Cadets at Ft. Lewis in 1983. Never before I have I met more Smile in your face, stab you in the back mother effers in my life. And that was before I started studying the crazy shit you people believe about Magic Underwear, Native Americans being Jewish, baptizing dead people or ruling your own planet in the afterlife.

Everybody that has seen all the videos saw him holding his pistol aimed right at that window. He never so much as said to the group that he would shoot. He ambushed her. That is murder in the first degree. He planned to murder anybody who was shoved up into that small window. The fact is there were 2 men busting windows. The outside of the Capitol was chock full of bomb proof windows that none of them busted. And they were not angry at all. They were wanting to be heard. And they got murdered, at least the woman was murdered.

Why should he have to announce he will shoot when facing an angry mob in a secure area?

The asshole black started fighting the cops before they first put him into the cop car. And in the car he kept fighting. And he managed to fight his way out of the car and then the cop came over to hold him. Guess when he said I Can't breathe? Well? Did you say when they first put him into the cop car? Because if you told the truth, which you refuse to do, he started that con job before he busted out of the cop car.

Actually, he screamed that he couldn't breath in the first cop car, and they took him outside to calm him down because he was clearly having a panic attack. Nobody said George Floyd was a perfect person, just that nothing he was doing that day presented a lethal threat requiring lethal force to be employed. Get it?

Oh, "Asshole black". Yeah, you don't belong to a racist cult at all.

You are so damned blood thirsty you think it was fine that a mob murdered Joseph Smith. And he was locked into a cell when he was murdered.

Well, good thing, too.

Let's review.
Smith was convicted of Fraud in NY State, fleeing the jurisdiction in 1825 before they could put him in jail.
Then he took his whacky cult to Ohio, where he engaged in bank fraud in the Kirtland Safety Society in 1837
Then he took his followers into Missouri and tried to take over several counties with armed bands of Danites until they were expelled from the state in 1839.

Then he showed up in Illinois, and that's where he went full crazy cult leader, with plural marriage, claiming that ancient papyri he bought were the writings of Abraham, not to mention styling himself as a Lieutenant General and organizing an armed militia.

Yeah, I couldn't imagine why the people of that state were rightfully nervous about this loon.

 

[Robert W]

the only "Americans" devoted to Putin are the ones so fanatical to Trump that they believe it's okay Putin subverted our Democracy.

IF you were correct, and you were in the military you told us, Biden would not dick Ukraine around. Biden helps Putin by dragging this war he is in out for years now. The shit ass Biden pretends to help Ukraine more than he actually helps the Ukrainian leader. Trump worries me in fact. I hate wars but dammit, I don't like professional boxing either. I was on a train playing cards across the aisle from Then Cassius Clay. I was headed to Ft. Benning in Georgia at the time. At the time, I did not wonder why Clay took the train when he could fly to TX where he got off the train I believe. The three times the Army flew me was from Ft. Benning area to Philadelphia, then to Germany and from Germany back to the States stopping at Scotland. I also flew by the Air Force from Frankfurt to Berlin and back again.

Biden as a commander pisses me off. Biden did not even have to get us involved. But since that ass joined the fight, the least he could do is pretend he can command. And you know what command means.

 

[Robert W]

Well, no, China would throw you guys in Jail if you sent your missionaries there. They don't tolerate cults. just ask the Fulan Gong. Much better to send them to France (where Mitt Romney avoided the draft) where they'll politely ignore you.

Now, most of my disdain for your cult comes from when I encountered some BYU Cadets at Ft. Lewis in 1983. Never before I have I met more Smile in your face, stab you in the back mother effers in my life. And that was before I started studying the crazy shit you people believe about Magic Underwear, Native Americans being Jewish, baptizing dead people or ruling your own planet in the afterlife.

Yet you joined China. China is evil as you are. Your cult is clear to me. And yes you definitely are in a cult that you are happy with.
BYU is not simply Mormons only. You were in the Army much later than I was in. Then unlike you we hated the Communists. I need not tell you about communists once you spilled the beans who you have with you.

There is no is no such thing as Magic underwear. Bigots say that there is. Native Americans are not Jews. Sure the church does claim that America was settled by settlers that lived in Israel but they did not call them Jews. Baptizing FOR the dead is just that. There is no harm when people want that done for one of their relatives. The Church will never do that if the citizens do not want it done for them.

What do you offer Americans? A coffin? Why are you not in one now?

 

[JoeB131]

You seem to believe the Germans hated Hitler and only showed up under military threat. That simply is wrong. Adolf the asshole did a hell of a lot of good or else Germany never could afford to be in wars at all. They were getting rich due to him. I don't like him nor do I like even saying things the Germans loved him for. But the Germans were eager to serve him.

Hey, sure, Hitler did a lot of "good". Look at all the free lampshades....oh, wait.

Germany was the dominant economy in Europe before, during, and after the war. Germany would have been awesome with or without Hitler. the fact it sprung back so quickly after the war speaks to that.

I am not a part of your German history. My history is from England in fact. ****, look at the stupid masses that wanted Biden to be president until he gave his fans the finger and quit on them all.

Um, okay, Biden did a pretty good job given what Cheeto Jesus left him. Sadly, he wasn't appreciated for it.

What caused me to study Hitler a hell of a lot was when I was in Germany in the Army and found out about the book named The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich. I also note for the record you do sound more like a nazi when talking of Ashli Babbitt. This does not mean you really are one, but my god, you think murder is okay.

I also read that book, along with many others as part of my history studies.

Babbit's death is a tragedy, but the tragedy is that her own family didn't notice her mental illness and get her halp before she un-alived herself in Washington.

None of the videos of the black cop killing Ashli show he so much as told her he would shoot. Cops must warn prior to shooting to death.

Officers are not required to give a verbal warning before firing. It's recommended, but not required.

Many scientists do believe that GOD exists and created all matter. Tell me your theory of how matter was created to begin with? The problem you have is you must start with nothing at all.

Simple. Energy and matter are interconnected. The Big Bang was a release of energy that created matter. Now, of course we don't know how that energy was released, but it's proven the universe started from a certain point and the galaxies are moving away from that point.

A lot we don't know yet, but it makes more sense than God living on Planet Kolob with Jesus and Satan arguing how to guide humanity.

 

[Robert W]

Well, no, China would throw you guys in Jail if you sent your missionaries there. They don't tolerate cults. just ask the Fulan Gong. Much better to send them to France (where Mitt Romney avoided the draft) where they'll politely ignore you.

Now, most of my disdain for your cult comes from when I encountered some BYU Cadets at Ft. Lewis in 1983. Never before I have I met more Smile in your face, stab you in the back mother effers in my life. And that was before I started studying the crazy shit you people believe about Magic Underwear, Native Americans being Jewish, baptizing dead people or ruling your own planet in the afterlife.



Why should he have to announce he will shoot when facing an angry mob in a secure area?



Actually, he screamed that he couldn't breath in the first cop car, and they took him outside to calm him down because he was clearly having a panic attack. Nobody said George Floyd was a perfect person, just that nothing he was doing that day presented a lethal threat requiring lethal force to be employed. Get it?

Oh, "Asshole black". Yeah, you don't belong to a racist cult at all.



Well, good thing, too.

Let's review.
Smith was convicted of Fraud in NY State, fleeing the jurisdiction in 1825 before they could put him in jail.
Then he took his whacky cult to Ohio, where he engaged in bank fraud in the Kirtland Safety Society in 1837
Then he took his followers into Missouri and tried to take over several counties with armed bands of Danites until they were expelled from the state in 1839.

Then he showed up in Illinois, and that's where he went full crazy cult leader, with plural marriage, claiming that ancient papyri he bought were the writings of Abraham, not to mention styling himself as a Lieutenant General and organizing an armed militia.

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Yeah, I couldn't imagine why the people of that state were rightfully nervous about this loon.

You must really hate George Washingtons guts. And also John Adams and Thomas Jefferson. But you no doubt love Abraham Lincoln who invaded VA to start the so called civil war.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

You must really hate George Washingtons guts. And also John Adams and Thomas Jefferson. But you no doubt love Abraham Lincoln who invaded VA to start the so called civil war.

South Carolina started the civil war

 

[Robert W]

Hey, sure, Hitler did a lot of "good". Look at all the free lampshades....oh, wait.

Germany was the dominant economy in Europe before, during, and after the war. Germany would have been awesome with or without Hitler. the fact it sprung back so quickly after the war speaks to that.

That started around 1942 when he was shipping Jews to be incarcerated workers at prisons like in Poland. Nobody says Hitler was kind or a great man. I only mention the economy that grew fast when he took charge. Germans suffered greatly before Hitler. I am not saying I like that jerk. He waged war and deserved to be hung or run over by a tank. Right, Due to Hitler, Germany did become dominant as you say. Germany spent years in poverty prior to Hitler.

 

[Robert W]

South Carolina started the civil war

Says who? Sure we were taught that by the winners. Did you really think the winners would admit guilt? I am not a native of the South but I decided years ago to find out the actual truth. Let's take the cannons used by the South. They were weak cannons. That is why Ft. Sumter was hardly damaged and it was so poor none of the troops in the Fort were even more than a bit scared. But why were Troops from the feds there? S. Carolina did tell the feds they were no longer part of the USA. Are we prisoners of this country?

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Says who? Sure we were taught that by the winners. Did you really think the winners would admit guilt? I am not a native of the South but I decided years ago to find out the actual truth. Let's take the cannons used by the South. They were weak cannons. That is why Ft. Sumter was hardly damaged and it was so poor none of the troops in the Fort were even more than a bit scared. But why were Troops from the feds there? S. Carolina did tell the feds they were no longer part of the USA. Are we prisoners of this country?

The fort BELONGED to the Federal Government ceded YEARS Before, Lincoln did not even call up troops until AFTER that attack.

 

[Robert W]

Officers are not required to give a verbal warning before firing. It's recommended, but not required.

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Yes, police officers are generally required to give a verbal warning before using deadly force, unless it would be dangerous for them or others to do so:

• When a warning is required
  Officers should give a warning when possible before using deadly force. This includes when they are arresting a suspect who is presenting a danger and resisting their authority.
• When a warning is not required
  Officers do not need to give a warning if doing so would put themselves or others at risk, or if it would be inappropriate or pointless.

Police officers should only use deadly force when they have a reasonable belief that the subject poses an imminent danger of death or serious physical injury. They should not use deadly force solely to prevent a fleeing suspect from escaping.


Police officers should use their guns as a last resort. They should use their voice, whistle, or siren before using a firearm.

 

[JoeB131]

IF you were correct, and you were in the military you told us, Biden would not dick Ukraine around. Biden helps Putin by dragging this war he is in out for years now. The shit ass Biden pretends to help Ukraine more than he actually helps the Ukrainian leader.

We could send troops into Ukraine. That would trigger WWIII. Or we could have stayed out of it completely, and Putin would have taken Kyiv in 2022 and be eying his next target. All the options sucked, and Biden picked the one that sucked the least.

Biden as a commander pisses me off. Biden did not even have to get us involved. But since that ass joined the fight, the least he could do is pretend he can command. And you know what command means.

See above.

Yet you joined China. China is evil as you are. Your cult is clear to me. And yes you definitely are in a cult that you are happy with.

Not sure how you can say I 'joined China".

I married a Chinese national who came here.

Most of my encounters with Chinese people have been pleasant. They are kind and generous.

I think the second dumbest thing we do in our foreign policy is to antagonize China unnecessarily. (The dumbest thing we do is let the Zionist Entity dictate our middle east policy.)

BYU is not simply Mormons only. You were in the Army much later than I was in. Then unlike you we hated the Communists. I need not tell you about communists once you spilled the beans who you have with you.

The people I encountered were. Thick as thieves and you couldn't trust them.

There is no is no such thing as Magic underwear. Bigots say that there is.

Um, okay. So what you are upset about is I use a descriptor that makes it sound silly, because it's silly.

Native Americans are not Jews. Sure the church does claim that America was settled by settlers that lived in Israel but they did not call them Jews.

Again, do you not get how crazy that sounds. So what you guys believe is a handful of Hebrews traveled from Palestine in the bronze age and showed up in America, where they were the ancestors of hundreds of millions of Native Americans. And then they were cursed by God with dark skin.

Baptizing FOR the dead is just that. There is no harm when people want that done for one of their relatives. The Church will never do that if the citizens do not want it done for them.

How do you find out if a dead person would have wanted to be baptized into your silly little cult? Like if one of my nieces converted to Mormonism and said after I died, "You know, I want Uncle Joe to be baptized as a Mormon."

"But Uncle Joe hated Mormons and wasn't terribly fond of most other religions, either."

 

[Robert W]

The fort BELONGED to the Federal Government ceded YEARS Before, Lincoln did not even call up troops until AFTER that attack.

Why would S. Carolina accept that? You want to tell me that the North was the only government? Right, after that is when Lincoln invaded not South Carolina, but Virginia. I have been to where he invaded VA and walked those hallowed grounds myself.

Bear in mind that in the USA at the time States were primary to all citizens and the Feds role was pretty weak at that time.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Why would S. Caroline accept that? You want to tell me that the North was the only government? Right, after that is when Lincoln invaded not South Carolina, but Virginia. I have been to where he invaded VA and walked those hallowed grounds myself.

Bear in mind that in the USA at the time States were primary to all citizens and the Feds role was pretty weak at that time.

Ignore facts all you want; Lincoln was trying to solve it diplomatically until South Carolina attacked the Army.

 

[Robert W]

Not sure how you can say I 'joined China".

I married a Chinese national who came here.

Most of my encounters with Chinese people have been pleasant. They are kind and generous.

I think the second dumbest thing we do in our foreign policy is to antagonize China unnecessarily. (The dumbest thing we do is let the Zionist Entity dictate our middle east policy.)

How about that. So you joined China as I said. Tell you this. If you really knew Mormons, you would know that we are the best pals on Earth. We however do not sit still when attacked by the cults out there.

 

[Robert W]

Ignore facts all you want; Lincoln was trying to solve it diplomatically until South Carolina attacked the Army.

First I believed all you told me. Abe however massed a large army at the time and had it trained. All S. Carolina did was shoot weak cannons at a very stout fort built to handle heavy cannon fire from Ships at sea. The South cannons were not up to snuff as proven by the no casualties by the South in the Fort at the time.

It reminds me of this. Say a party shoots at your shed. You are not harmed. Do you have the right to kill that person?

 

[Robert W]

Ignore facts all you want; Lincoln was trying to solve it diplomatically until South Carolina attacked the Army.

Let's say for smarts that today you had some parties in North Carolina that shot rifles at one of the forts there. Would that mean VA had to be invaded?

 

[RetiredGySgt]

First I believed all you told me. Abe however massed a large army at the time and had it trained. All S. Carolina did was shoot weak cannons at a very stout fort built to handle heavy cannon fire from Ships at sea. The South cannons were not up to snuff as proven by the no casualties by the South in the Fort at the time.

It reminds me of this. Say a party shoots at your shed. You are not harmed. Do you have the right to kill that person?

Again, for the slow, the call up of troops did not happen until AFTER the fort was attacked.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Let's say for smarts that today you had some parties in North Carolina that shot rifles at one of the forts there. Would that mean VA had to be invaded?

The south raised armies and were headed to Washington, or do you think militia just formed when the Army approached?

 

[Robert W]

Um, okay. So what you are upset about is I use a descriptor that makes it sound silly, because it's silly.

Why do you object to underwear? It is stupid to be against wearing underwear.

We could send troops into Ukraine. That would trigger WWIII. Or we could have stayed out of it completely, and Putin would have taken Kyiv in 2022 and be eying his next target. All the options sucked, and Biden picked the one that sucked the least.

Bad move. That is why I did not remark to send American troops there. We have modern weapons that we denied to Ukraine that would kick the shit out of Putin. Why you object tells me much about your service time.

 

[JoeB131]

You were in the Army much later than I was in. Then unlike you we hated the Communists. I need not tell you about communists once you spilled the beans who you have with you.

I was in from 1981 to 1992. (The first five years as a reservist, including some time in ROTC, which is where I got to encounter BYU mutants.) We were told to hate us some Commies, until we all realized the "Evil Empire" was a collection of third world countries that didn't particularly like each other.

You must really hate George Washingtons guts. And also John Adams and Thomas Jefferson. But you no doubt love Abraham Lincoln who invaded VA to start the so called civil war.

Actually, what triggered the civil war was that a bunch of slave rapists would rather destroy the union than give up a few rich people owning other human beings.

Lincoln was happy to reach compromises with the South, but the very fact he thought slavery was bad was more than they could tolerate.

As for the Founding Fathers... they saved us from the abject horror of being Canadians. I just can't get that worked up about that.

That started around 1942 when he was shipping Jews to be incarcerated workers at prisons like in Poland. Nobody says Hitler was kind or a great man. I only mention the economy that grew fast when he took charge. Germans suffered greatly before Hitler. I am not saying I like that jerk. He waged war and deserved to be hung or run over by a tank. Right, Due to Hitler, Germany did become dominant as you say. Germany spent years in poverty prior to Hitler.

Not sure what your point is, that Hitler's economic programs were somehow better than every other country that managed to get through the Great Depression without trying to conquer the world.

Says who? Sure we were taught that by the winners. Did you really think the winners would admit guilt? I am not a native of the South but I decided years ago to find out the actual truth. Let's take the cannons used by the South. They were weak cannons. That is why Ft. Sumter was hardly damaged and it was so poor none of the troops in the Fort were even more than a bit scared. But why were Troops from the feds there? S. Carolina did tell the feds they were no longer part of the USA. Are we prisoners of this country?

Again, you sound like you are falling for a lot of the revisionist history that the South has been engaging in for over 100 years.