Former BLM Leaders Speaks Out About "Ugly Truth" About Group

[Ray From Cleveland]

Despite your list, you ignore the fact that Whites shot by Police officers annually outnumbers Blacks by nearly a 2:1 ratio. Shouldn’t the number of riots and looting by whites be twice as many as blacks instead of near zero?

It only matters when it's a white cop and black suspect. If not, it barely makes local news, speaking of which, from my neck of the world:

Autopsy reveals man shot by East Cleveland Police was hit 3 times from back, once in side of chest

It’s now up to a special prosecutor to decide whether felony charges should be brought against an East Cleveland Police officer who shot and killed a suspect earlier this year.

www.cleveland19.com

This black suspect was shot several times in the back and once on his side. He died from the injuries. Did you hear about it? Why not? It was reported two weeks ago! Why didn't you hear about it? Because the police officer is black. Not only was he never arrested or charged, he continues to work until this day. This happened in January, and only now are they "considering" charging him with anything.

So what happens if they don't charge him? Nothing. You'll still never hear about it unless it's an extremely slow news day. The MSM knows they won't be able to rile black people up given the officer and suspect were both black. No protests, no riots, no BLM. So what's the point of making it a national story if it won't result in national protests or riots?

 

[LeftofLeft]

Here are some important facts about BLM - they only care about a Black Life when a Black has been shot and killed by a White Police officer which typically involves the Black suspect being armed and refusing to disarm or the Black suspect is unarmed yet they resist arrest and attack the officer or go after the police officer physically. More white suspects are shot by police officers. BLM terrorizes random people by intimidating them or threatening them to repeat the the mantra, “Blavk Lives Matter”. Some in Black Lives Matter leadership believe looting is justifiable because it is a form of reparations.

Here's the thing. I've never seen BLM make a big deal about a guy who pulled a gun on a cop.

Let's look at the BLM honor roll, shall we?

George Floyd- Unarmed, killed over a fake $20.00
Sandra Bland - Unarmed, killed over a traffic violation
Laquan McDonald - Had a boy scout knife, shot 16 times when he was lying on the ground.
Philandro Castille - Shot even though he was cooperating, informed cops he had a gun and was a CCW holder.
Mike Brown- Unarmed, had his hands up.
Adam Toledo - Dropped the gun, had his hands up, shot anyway.
Tamir Rice- Playing with a toy.
Botham Jean - Sitting in his living room, eating ice cream
Breonna Taylor - shot by cops in her own home because they had the wrong address.

The fact you consider looting more serious than cops shooting people is kind of the problem.

Stuff can be replaced. Lives cannot.

your list is a lie and you know it.

Even if the specious circumstances sited with each death were factual, the instance of a Black suspect being shot by police compared to a White suspect being shot by Police is far less likely.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

When blacks kill other blacks, they are arrested, convicted and jailed.

And no concern by BLM, no protests, it's just another day in the park when blacks kill each other, isn't it?

Uh, guy, I do job placement for a living. Most companies will waive "requirements" if you have enough equivalent experience.

You gave me an ad that required a minimum of one year office experience. I was a truck driver you dope. What equivalent office experience do you think I have behind the wheel of a tractor-trailer, my log book? And don't give me that's what you do for a living. You may do it part-time on the weekends or something, but you don't make a living at it, just like you've never been in the military. You never shot a gun in your life.

Actually, they are going broke because Bush took that money and used to fund tax cuts for the rich.

Why do you comment on things you know zero about?

A number of readers asked us to check out the claim, so we decided to take a look. The meme seems to extrapolate a point made in a 2009 newsletter post by Allen W. Smith, a professor of economics emeritus from Eastern Illinois University.

"Bush spent every dime of Social Security surplus revenue that came in during his presidency. He used it to fund his big tax cuts for the rich, and much of it was spent on wars," Smith wrote.

Third, if we characterize the entire trust fund system as the government borrowing from Social Security, Bush is by no means the only debtor.

"That’s how the Social Security trust fund has worked ever since the program started, so there’s no point in focusing on Bush," said Andrew Biggs, an economist at the conservative American Enterprise Institute. "You could focus on pretty much any president."

Experts told us there's no question that the Treasury will repay the Social Security surplus (including what was accumulated during the Bush years) when the trust fund starts redeeming the bonds in 2020. Otherwise, says Hiltzik of the Los Angeles Times, "you’d have to march 40 years worth of Treasury, Labor, Health and Human Services secretaries, Social Security commissioners, and public trustees -- Republicans and Democrats -- into prison."

Our ruling

A Facebook posts says, "Bush ‘borrowed’ $1.37 trillion of Social Security surplus revenue to pay for his tax cuts for the rich and his war in Iraq and never paid it back."
By law, the Social Security surplus is converted into bonds, and the cash is used by the Treasury to pay for government expenses. If we agree that this is "borrowing," every president since 1935 has done it, to fund all sorts of things. Even if Bush "borrowed" from the surplus, the amount is more like $708 billion, and the borrowing wasn’t earmarked for a special purposes.

As for not "paying back," the bonds won’t need to be repaid until 2020.
Overall, the claim is misleading and confuses many points. So we rate it Mostly False.

Did George W. Bush 'borrow' from Social Security to fund the war in Iraq and tax cuts?

Evoke George W. Bush, his income tax cuts and the war in Iraq, and you’re sure to arouse some liberal ire. Suggest that

www.politifact.com

Sure you did. You can work. You just can't work in the job you want to do.

You don't understand the difference between being able to work and being able to make a living. A person in a wheelchair can work. So can a deaf person. We had an organization that had nothing but mentally retarded people working, some of them with an intelligence level of a 6 year old. They all can work and make money, but none of them can make a living and support themselves.

When I was accepted for disability I was nearly 60 years old; two years from being able to take early retirement which was my original plans. I only did one job for 30 years. Between my age, my medical problems, and no experience at anything other than what I did for 30 years, there is no way for me to make a living. Work? Sure, I can work with some limitations, but I can't make a living. Disability is not only for people that can't get out of bed in the morning, it's for people who's medical problems precludes them from making a living.

I've got black neighbors, they don't do any of that. I've seen some of my White Trash neighbors do shit like that, though.

Yeah, we know OCD Joe. It's happening all around the country except for where you live. OCD Joe's own little fantasy world.

yes, you effectively gamed the system. Just don't pretend you are better off than any other welfare collector.

Me. I have too much pride to do that.

You're a Democrat, you have no pride. You also don't possess the intelligence to differentiate between welfare and insurance programs.

 

[JoeB131]

Despite your list, you ignore the fact that Whites shot by Police officers annually outnumbers Blacks by nearly a 2:1 ratio. Shouldn’t the number of riots and looting by whites be twice as many as blacks instead of near zero?

There are six times as many whites as blacks.. a 2:1 Ratio proves that cops are kind of racist.

Frankly, I think white people should be just as outraged that cops shoot so many white people. American police shoot 1000 people every year. Most other G-7 countries, those numbers are in single or double digits.

So, when will you motherfuckers care about our stuff? When we kill you?

Sure... and then you go to jail for a hate crime. Works for me.

your list is a lie and you know it.

What I know is that we have too many cops killing black people under dubious circumstances and not being held accountable... either no jail time or minimal sentences.

 

[JoeB131]

Even if the specious circumstances sited with each death were factual, the instance of a Black suspect being shot by police compared to a White suspect being shot by Police is far less likely.

Actually, it's the opposite. You are more likely to be shot by a cop if you are black.

 

[JoeB131]

Despite your list, you ignore the fact that Whites shot by Police officers annually outnumbers Blacks by nearly a 2:1 ratio. Shouldn’t the number of riots and looting by whites be twice as many as blacks instead of near zero?

It only matters when it's a white cop and black suspect. If not, it barely makes local news, speaking of which, from my neck of the world:

Autopsy reveals man shot by East Cleveland Police was hit 3 times from back, once in side of chest

It’s now up to a special prosecutor to decide whether felony charges should be brought against an East Cleveland Police officer who shot and killed a suspect earlier this year.

www.cleveland19.com

This black suspect was shot several times in the back and once on his side. He died from the injuries. Did you hear about it? Why not? It was reported two weeks ago! Why didn't you hear about it? Because the police officer is black. Not only was he never arrested or charged, he continues to work until this day. This happened in January, and only now are they "considering" charging him with anything.

So what happens if they don't charge him? Nothing. You'll still never hear about it unless it's an extremely slow news day. The MSM knows they won't be able to rile black people up given the officer and suspect were both black. No protests, no riots, no BLM. So what's the point of making it a national story if it won't result in national protests or riots?

Here's the reality- the Cops shoot 1000 people a year. Usually it doesn't make national news. Clearly, this one made LOCAL news.

Most black people killed by police don't get the attention they deserve. Not unless it's something really egregious, like the people on my list.

The problem is, very few blacks are shot by police, but most of them have been hassled with a DWB, or some other kind of abuse of power by white cops, and they look at a George Floyd or a Tamir Rice and say, "That could have been me."

 

[JoeB131]

And no concern by BLM, no protests, it's just another day in the park when blacks kill each other, isn't it?

There's no need for concern. The system does what it is supposed to do. People are arrested and charged. That's all BLM is really asking be done with police officers. That they are held accountable when they screw up and kill black people without cause.

Not, "Well, he was playing with a toy, and even though he didn't have the toy in his hand, he was a scary black person, so it was perfectly okay for the police officer who was previously fired for mental instability shot him."

You gave me an ad that required a minimum of one year office experience. I was a truck driver you dope. What equivalent office experience do you think I have behind the wheel of a tractor-trailer, my log book? And don't give me that's what you do for a living. You may do it part-time on the weekends or something, but you don't make a living at it, just like you've never been in the military. You never shot a gun in your life.

If I show you a picture of myself when I was in the military, will you shut the fuck up? Come on, challenge time. Here's a picture of me when I was home on leave, and was visiting my sister.

To the point, I've placed thousands of people in jobs... the idea that you can't possible get a job is only because you are too lazy to go look. You'd rather collect welfare and cry "Woe is me".

Why do you comment on things you know zero about?

Guy, the point was, We were posting a net surplus with Social Security when Bush took office. He cut taxes on rich people and spent like a drunken sailor on the military. Now those bonds, which should have been invested in a lock box, we have to now find cuts in Social Security to pay for.

You don't understand the difference between being able to work and being able to make a living. A person in a wheelchair can work. So can a deaf person. We had an organization that had nothing but mentally retarded people working, some of them with an intelligence level of a 6 year old. They all can work and make money, but none of them can make a living and support themselves.

Again, the Filipino in the wheelchair I worked with made a living. Of course, he was willing to try.

When I was accepted for disability I was nearly 60 years old; two years from being able to take early retirement which was my original plans. I only did one job for 30 years. Between my age, my medical problems, and no experience at anything other than what I did for 30 years, there is no way for me to make a living. Work? Sure, I can work with some limitations, but I can't make a living. Disability is not only for people that can't get out of bed in the morning, it's for people who's medical problems precludes them from making a living.

So you gamed the system. Good for you. Good think you live in a country run by liberals who gave you a system to game. You'd be really fucked if you lived in a country run by conservatives.

Yeah, we know OCD Joe. It's happening all around the country except for where you live. OCD Joe's own little fantasy world.

Yes, Ray, I don't look at the world through the magic Klan Glasses like you do.

You're a Democrat, you have no pride. You also don't possess the intelligence to differentiate between welfare and insurance programs.

Because there really isn't any. IT'S ALL FUCKING SOCIALISM, BABY!!! You are either making or taking. You are taking right now. Which is fine, we live in a compassionate society.

Of course, if it was a private insurance thing, some adjuster would have pushed back on paying you for the rest of your life when you aren't fucking crippled.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Despite your list, you ignore the fact that Whites shot by Police officers annually outnumbers Blacks by nearly a 2:1 ratio. Shouldn’t the number of riots and looting by whites be twice as many as blacks instead of near zero?

There are six times as many whites as blacks.. a 2:1 Ratio proves that cops are kind of racist.

Frankly, I think white people should be just as outraged that cops shoot so many white people. American police shoot 1000 people every year. Most other G-7 countries, those numbers are in single or double digits.

So, when will you motherfuckers care about our stuff? When we kill you?

Sure... and then you go to jail for a hate crime. Works for me.

your list is a lie and you know it.

What I know is that we have too many cops killing black people under dubious circumstances and not being held accountable... either no jail time or minimal sentences.

950 or so of those killings are in self defense against armed criminals trying to kill the cops most of the rest are also justified because the criminal was trying without a weapon to kill the cops. as for 2 to one the reason for that is because the blacks in this country rob murder at 3 times the rate of whites.

 

[JoeB131]

950 or so of those killings are in self defense against armed criminals trying to kill the cops most of the rest are also justified because the criminal was trying without a weapon to kill the cops. as for 2 to one the reason for that is because the blacks in this country rob murder at 3 times the rate of whites.

The how do you explain why cops in the UK or Japan are able to make arrests without killing hundreds of people?

Nope. The problem is, Cops have realized they can brutalize black people without consequences.. now there are consequences and they don't want to be cops... Which I'm fine with.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

There's no need for concern. The system does what it is supposed to do. People are arrested and charged. That's all BLM is really asking be done with police officers. That they are held accountable when they screw up and kill black people without cause.

Not, "Well, he was playing with a toy, and even though he didn't have the toy in his hand, he was a scary black person, so it was perfectly okay for the police officer who was previously fired for mental instability shot him."

If a black citizen legally shoots in self-defense, he is not arrested or charged just like a police officer. If a police officer shoots and kills somebody without a reasonable claim of self-defense, he is arrested and charged just like the criminal.

So in my area we had a black police officer shoot a fleeing suspect several times in the back and side causing his death in January. The officer was never charged, continued working until this day, no nationwide protests, no riots, nobody outside of our area even heard about this story. In fact here it was only reported on for one day so anybody who didn't read the news site didn't hear about it. Why is that OCD?

On the national level, a black police officer killed an unarmed white woman who was also a military vet for simply trespassing. Not only was he not charged or arrested, the commies won't even release his name. Where are the protesters OCD?

Your racist BLM organization and racist media have this all figured out, don't they?

If I show you a picture of myself when I was in the military, will you shut the fuck up? Come on, challenge time. Here's a picture of me when I was home on leave, and was visiting my sister.

To the point, I've placed thousands of people in jobs... the idea that you can't possible get a job is only because you are too lazy to go look. You'd rather collect welfare and cry "Woe is me".

So WTF is this supposed to prove? This could be a picture of your second cousin removed for all we know. The fact of the matter is you never shot a gun in your life, otherwise you would have never made that stupid comment about my neighbor when he shot at his wife. Nobody goes through the military without at least some knowledge of firearms.

Guy, the point was, We were posting a net surplus with Social Security when Bush took office. He cut taxes on rich people and spent like a drunken sailor on the military. Now those bonds, which should have been invested in a lock box, we have to now find cuts in Social Security to pay for.

Read the Politafact link. It clearly states what Bush did was the same thing every President has done since 1935. Politafact is a highly left-wing site.

Again, the Filipino in the wheelchair I worked with made a living. Of course, he was willing to try.

He apparently was a dress shirt and not blue-collar. Apples and oranges.

So you gamed the system. Good for you. Good think you live in a country run by liberals who gave you a system to game. You'd be really fucked if you lived in a country run by conservatives.

Yeah, liberals created the system. Now that I'm using the system I paid into my entire life, you as a liberal are complaining. You people are such liars and hypocrites.

Because there really isn't any. IT'S ALL FUCKING SOCIALISM, BABY!!! You are either making or taking. You are taking right now. Which is fine, we live in a compassionate society.

Of course, if it was a private insurance thing, some adjuster would have pushed back on paying you for the rest of your life when you aren't fucking crippled.

Insurance companies pay out what's listed in the contract with you. To do otherwise would land them in court with a massive lawsuit. SS pays out what is contracted with the people. I posted what they cover and you sit there This is the problem with you leftists. You make false claims, and when we prove you wrong, you still sit there and

Correct, in social programs you either pay into the program or you take out. I paid for over 40 years and I'll be taking out for 2 years. Welfare is when you don't pay anything into the system but only take out.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

950 or so of those killings are in self defense against armed criminals trying to kill the cops most of the rest are also justified because the criminal was trying without a weapon to kill the cops. as for 2 to one the reason for that is because the blacks in this country rob murder at 3 times the rate of whites.

The how do you explain why cops in the UK or Japan are able to make arrests without killing hundreds of people?

Nope. The problem is, Cops have realized they can brutalize black people without consequences.. now there are consequences and they don't want to be cops... Which I'm fine with.

moron all those other nations until recently had a pretty straight forward race for their population so no real friction to exploit by politicians and on top of that all the European Countries are subjects not citizens so more malleable on firearms use. France had problems with there Arab population but most of that was restricted to Muslim slums and wasn't routinely reported or observed till recently with the terror attacks. Briton is starting to find out what the problems are to have a multicultural population that is pulled in several directions. But never really had a history of firearms ownership or use. They have gangs but unlike our gangs they were not prone to firearms use, that is changing though.

Half of all our murders are by blacks, they are 12 percent of the population. 37 percent of all violent crime is committed by blacks again 12 percent of the population. Our gangs are armed and willing to use those arms. Europeans were just less likely to murder for ANY reason. Our gangs are violent and mostly black Asian and Hispanic, but notice even here the Asian gangs don't commit a lot of murder.

If we did not have the inner city gangs our crime rate would drop by about 70 percent. And add to that the democrats constantly telling blacks they are victims and owed something, also making excuses for them. Well there goes that source of violent confrontation.

Stats PROVE MOST COP SHOOTINGS are JUSTIFIED and most killings are because the criminal fought back with a weapon. Less then 50 killings a year are usually unarmed and of those most of those were justified.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

moron all those other nations until recently had a pretty straight forward race for their population so no real friction to exploit by politicians and on top of that all the European Countries are subjects not citizens so more malleable on firearms use. France had problems with there Arab population but most of that was restricted to Muslim slums and wasn't routinely reported or observed till recently with the terror attacks. Briton is starting to find out what the problems are to have a multicultural population that is pulled in several directions. But never really had a history of firearms ownership or use. They have gangs but unlike our gangs they were not prone to firearms use, that is changing though.

I record all my news shows. I watched a Laura Ingraham segment on Sweden last night. They went from being one of the safest countries in the world to the most dangerous in Europe. It was leftist immigration policies that led to this huge increase in violent and gun crime. They allowed all these refugees from the middle-east to invade their country, and much like the leftists here, refuse to acknowledge their mistakes and stop the policy.

And like in the US, when it was an all white environment, they had virtually no violent crime problems at all. If you dare bring up facts to leftists, they have no defense other than to call you a racist. Only to a liberal are facts racist; facts like black males that makeup 7% of our US population are responsible for 53% of all murders in the United States.

 

[JoeB131]

If a black citizen legally shoots in self-defense, he is not arrested or charged just like a police officer. If a police officer shoots and kills somebody without a reasonable claim of self-defense, he is arrested and charged just like the criminal.

Really? There was a black woman in Florida who went to jail for shooting at her estranged husband who had a history of beating her.

So in my area we had a black police officer shoot a fleeing suspect several times in the back and side causing his death in January. The officer was never charged, continued working until this day, no nationwide protests, no riots, nobody outside of our area even heard about this story. In fact here it was only reported on for one day so anybody who didn't read the news site didn't hear about it. Why is that OCD?

Well, it could be because the guy he shot was involved in a carjacking... which is actually a serious crime. I mean, he wasn't a dangerous black child playing with a toy, so it probably wasn't that big of a deal.

On the national level, a black police officer killed an unarmed white woman who was also a military vet for simply trespassing. Not only was he not charged or arrested, the commies won't even release his name. Where are the protesters OCD?

YOu mean the nasty bitch who was committed an act of insurrection? That nasty bitch. They should have shot dozens of those fuckers...

So WTF is this supposed to prove? This could be a picture of your second cousin removed for all we know. The fact of the matter is you never shot a gun in your life, otherwise you would have never made that stupid comment about my neighbor when he shot at his wife. Nobody goes through the military without at least some knowledge of firearms.

Sorry, man. In for 11 years. My MOS was 76Y. Which means I not only fired small arms, I was responsible for their maintenance. I'm not even sure what comment I made about your neighbor, probably pointing out that all your stories don't make a lick of sense and are part of your racist derangement.

Read the Politafact link. It clearly states what Bush did was the same thing every President has done since 1935. Politafact is a highly left-wing site.

You can point out all the bullshit you want... the fact is, Bush took a surplus and spent money on wars and tax cuts for rich people. Period. Full stop.

He apparently was a dress shirt and not blue-collar. Apples and oranges.

You mean despite his disability and living in a racist country and not even speaking English as his first language (We had another girl in the same office, and he spoke Tagalog with her rather than English, even though English was her first language) he was able to gain skills and work a job, while you apparently went nearly sixty years and gained only one job skill?

Yeah, liberals created the system. Now that I'm using the system I paid into my entire life, you as a liberal are complaining. You people are such liars and hypocrites.

Naw, man. you miss the point, Welfare Ray. I point out your hypocrisy of thinking you are better than other people who collect, when in fact, you are probably worse. You have all the privileges of being white and male in this country, and you still managed to fuck it up.

Insurance companies pay out what's listed in the contract with you. To do otherwise would land them in court with a massive lawsuit.

Obviously, you've never had to fight with an insurance company to get them to do what they promised.

SS pays out what is contracted with the people. I posted what they cover and you sit there This is the problem with you leftists. You make false claims, and when we prove you wrong, you still sit there

But you haven't proven anything, guy. You pretty much admit that you are gaming a social welfare system, that was actually designed to help people who have actual disabilities.

Correct, in social programs you either pay into the program or you take out. I paid for over 40 years and I'll be taking out for 2 years. Welfare is when you don't pay anything into the system but only take out.

Actually, most people on welfare have jobs and are paying in... and most are only on assistance for a few years. We've been over this, Welfare Ray.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Well, it could be because the guy he shot was involved in a carjacking... which is actually a serious crime. I mean, he wasn't a dangerous black child playing with a toy, so it probably wasn't that big of a deal.

He shot a suspect in the back meaning the officers life was not in danger since evidence shows he was running away from the officer.

YOu mean the nasty bitch who was committed an act of insurrection? That nasty bitch. They should have shot dozens of those fuckers...

I feel the same about the rioters. I also commend Governor DeSantis for passing a bill that says you can now run over the MF's if they are blocking the road you are trying to travel on. Guess what? No lowlifes are blocking any roads in Florida.

Sorry, man. In for 11 years. My MOS was 76Y. Which means I not only fired small arms, I was responsible for their maintenance. I'm not even sure what comment I made about your neighbor, probably pointing out that all your stories don't make a lick of sense and are part of your racist derangement.

When my neighbor shot at his wife through a kitchen window, you said that I must have been there spying on them since a gunshot would not have woken me up. Anybody that's even been to the firing range knows how loud guns are, and even louder in the middle of the night 75 feet away from where you are sleeping in the summer with your window open. Quit lying. You've never shot a gun or been near one in your life.

You can point out all the bullshit you want... the fact is, Bush took a surplus and spent money on wars and tax cuts for rich people. Period. Full stop.

Full of shit. Politifact clearly points out the money was not earmarked for anything. So what did the Kenyan clown do with the money HE took from Social Security?

You mean despite his disability and living in a racist country and not even speaking English as his first language (We had another girl in the same office, and he spoke Tagalog with her rather than English, even though English was her first language) he was able to gain skills and work a job, while you apparently went nearly sixty years and gained only one job skill?

Yes, one job skill like 80% of all blue collar workers. Very few take on more than one profession in their lives unless they decide to change professions on their own.

Obviously, you've never had to fight with an insurance company to get them to do what they promised.

Nope, because all insurance companies adhere to their contract with the customer.

But you haven't proven anything, guy. You pretty much admit that you are gaming a social welfare system, that was actually designed to help people who have actual disabilities.

If I didn't have actual disabilities, SS would have never accepted my claim. God you are dumb.

Actually, most people on welfare have jobs and are paying in... and most are only on assistance for a few years. We've been over this, Welfare Ray.

Nearly half of Americans pay nothing into our federal income tax system which is where welfare programs are funded from. Low wage earners do not pay into the system and likely won't their entire lives.

 

[JoeB131]

When my neighbor shot at his wife through a kitchen window, you said that I must have been there spying on them since a gunshot would not have woken me up. Anybody that's even been to the firing range knows how loud guns are, and even louder in the middle of the night 75 feet away from where you are sleeping in the summer with your window open. Quit lying. You've never shot a gun or been near one in your life.

Oh, is that it... you see, I though you were just being weird. Now I know you are.

Fired lots of guns. What I remember about the M16 it was more of a pop than a bang.

I feel the same about the rioters. I also commend Governor DeSantis for passing a bill that says you can now run over the MF's if they are blocking the road you are trying to travel on. Guess what? No lowlifes are blocking any roads in Florida.

Well, they are and you aren't hearing about it... as anyone some redneck runs over would still be eligable for CIVIL penalties if they did that.

Full of shit. Politifact clearly points out the money was not earmarked for anything. So what did the Kenyan clown do with the money HE took from Social Security?

Well,no, the money is earmarked to pay social security benefits, but Bush spent it on war. Now, under Obama, that's when enough boomers started retiring to the point where Social Security has to take those bonds and go back to general fund and say, "Give us our money!"

Republican solution? Try to cut benefits to old people, of course. We can't make rich people pay those bonds back.

Yes, one job skill like 80% of all blue collar workers. Very few take on more than one profession in their lives unless they decide to change professions on their own.

So you not arguing that you were "disabled", but incompetent in your career development. I didn't realize "lazy" and "Stupid" count as disabilities.

Nope, because all insurance companies adhere to their contract with the customer.

Again, you've never had to fight with an insurance company that has determined that your needed knee surgery was "elective".

If I didn't have actual disabilities, SS would have never accepted my claim. God you are dumb.

Sure they would have. People scam the system all the time. When My sister went down there after she started losing her eyesight, there were a shitload of able-bodied people there.

Just like any other form of welfare. They are gaming the system.

Nearly half of Americans pay nothing into our federal income tax system which is where welfare programs are funded from. Low wage earners do not pay into the system and likely won't their entire lives.

Nearly half in any given year. Half includes Children and retired people. Low wage earners are still paying income tax, as well as other taxes, directly or indirectly.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Oh, is that it... you see, I though you were just being weird. Now I know you are.

Fired lots of guns. What I remember about the M16 it was more of a pop than a bang.

With that comment you only are telling me one thing: you were lying then or lying now. Which is it?

Well, they are and you aren't hearing about it... as anyone some redneck runs over would still be eligable for CIVIL penalties if they did that.

Not if there is a state law that provides immunity.

Well,no, the money is earmarked to pay social security benefits, but Bush spent it on war. Now, under Obama, that's when enough boomers started retiring to the point where Social Security has to take those bonds and go back to general fund and say, "Give us our money!"

Republican solution? Try to cut benefits to old people, of course. We can't make rich people pay those bonds back.

So when did Republicans ever even suggest to cut benefits to old people. Link please.

Where is your evidence that Bush used SS money for wars or tax cuts that Politifact printed was complete bullshit?

So you not arguing that you were "disabled", but incompetent in your career development. I didn't realize "lazy" and "Stupid" count as disabilities.

They don't. What counts as disabilities are verified medical conditions that stops any American from making a living. The only thing that stopped my career development was government. I drove tractor-trailers for over 25 years; straight trucks for five years. Never once an accident in my name, no points on my license when they refused to renew my medical card, and no CSA 2010 points on my record. I was nearly the perfect tractor-trailer operator out there.

Even if I had the time and money to say, go to HVAC school, if I continued my job (which most people do) and tried to go into HVAC 20 years later, all that training would not apply. Things change. You need to stay updated on the latest in such careers, you need to have experience exercising those updates.

And this is why SS disability has a 15 year window so my attorney explained to me. You can't turn back time. Given the fact all I did in the last 30 years was CDL driving, anything else I did prior to 15 years is irrelevant as nobody would hire me given the time I was last in such a career. Now if I managed my cousins bar or restaurant, returned back to bricklaying, did shipping and receiving in the last 15 years, SS might have refused my claim if I worked in any field outside of my own. That's their standards.

However if my disabilities applied to those other occupations as well, then they'd have no case to refuse my application.

Again, you've never had to fight with an insurance company that has determined that your needed knee surgery was "elective".

All I can tell you is learn how to read contracts.

Sure they would have. People scam the system all the time. When My sister went down there after she started losing her eyesight, there were a shitload of able-bodied people there.

Just like any other form of welfare. They are gaming the system.

And you knew they were able bodied how, the same way you know that I am even though you don't have one clue about my medical conditions?

And how many of those able bodied people were accepted by SS disability? Just because you apply doesn't mean you will get it. In fact all the people I know that went on disability had to undergo months if not years of fighting to get it. For me, all they needed was to take one look at my medical records and work history to determine such a fight would be fruitless. My situation for SS was an open and shut case as my attorney said it would be.

Nearly half in any given year. Half includes Children and retired people. Low wage earners are still paying income tax, as well as other taxes, directly or indirectly.

Retired people, yes. Children, no. These statistics are for people of working age only.

45% of Americans pay no federal income tax

77.5 million households do not pay federal individual income tax.

www.marketwatch.com

 

[JoeB131]

With that comment you only are telling me one thing: you were lying then or lying now. Which is it?

I wasn't. An M16 makes kid of a pop. Not sure what kind of gun this guy was firing, but unless you were spying on them, you probably didn't hear it.

So when did Republicans ever even suggest to cut benefits to old people. Link please.

Every time creepy Paul Ryan opened his mouth, pretty much.

Ryan Plan Makes Deep Cuts in Social Security | Center on Budget and Policy Priorities

A new analysis by Social Security’s chief actuary of several possible changes to the program allows one to calculate the size of the benefit reductions that Rep. Paul Ryan’s (R-WI) budget plan...

www.cbpp.org

They don't. What counts as disabilities are verified medical conditions that stops any American from making a living. The only thing that stopped my career development was government. I drove tractor-trailers for over 25 years; straight trucks for five years. Never once an accident in my name, no points on my license when they refused to renew my medical card, and no CSA 2010 points on my record. I was nearly the perfect tractor-trailer operator out there.

Except physically, they realized you were a danger to yourself and others.. so there was that. Let's not relitigate the fact you had five years to try to find something else to do when they told you that you couldn't drive tractors-trailers and you couldn't drive any truck because you weren't up to it. You made a decision to wait until they pulled you off the road.

Again- you gamed the system.

And how many of those able bodied people were accepted by SS disability? Just because you apply doesn't mean you will get it. In fact all the people I know that went on disability had to undergo months if not years of fighting to get it. For me, all they needed was to take one look at my medical records and work history to determine such a fight would be fruitless. My situation for SS was an open and shut case as my attorney said it would be.

Yup you gamed the system. Good for you, man. You living large on welfare, buddy.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

With that comment you only are telling me one thing: you were lying then or lying now. Which is it?

I wasn't. An M16 makes kid of a pop. Not sure what kind of gun this guy was firing, but unless you were spying on them, you probably didn't hear it.

So when did Republicans ever even suggest to cut benefits to old people. Link please.

Every time creepy Paul Ryan opened his mouth, pretty much.

Ryan Plan Makes Deep Cuts in Social Security | Center on Budget and Policy Priorities

A new analysis by Social Security’s chief actuary of several possible changes to the program allows one to calculate the size of the benefit reductions that Rep. Paul Ryan’s (R-WI) budget plan...

www.cbpp.org

They don't. What counts as disabilities are verified medical conditions that stops any American from making a living. The only thing that stopped my career development was government. I drove tractor-trailers for over 25 years; straight trucks for five years. Never once an accident in my name, no points on my license when they refused to renew my medical card, and no CSA 2010 points on my record. I was nearly the perfect tractor-trailer operator out there.

Except physically, they realized you were a danger to yourself and others.. so there was that. Let's not relitigate the fact you had five years to try to find something else to do when they told you that you couldn't drive tractors-trailers and you couldn't drive any truck because you weren't up to it. You made a decision to wait until they pulled you off the road.

Again- you gamed the system.

And how many of those able bodied people were accepted by SS disability? Just because you apply doesn't mean you will get it. In fact all the people I know that went on disability had to undergo months if not years of fighting to get it. For me, all they needed was to take one look at my medical records and work history to determine such a fight would be fruitless. My situation for SS was an open and shut case as my attorney said it would be.

Yup you gamed the system. Good for you, man. You living large on welfare, buddy.

fuck you it takes numerous appeals and lawyers usually to get it even when it is covered if he got it in one request it was serious

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

I wasn't. An M16 makes kid of a pop. Not sure what kind of gun this guy was firing, but unless you were spying on them, you probably didn't hear it.

Yeah, like I had nothing better to do at 4:00 am than staying up spying on my neighbor. It doesn't matter what kind of gun it was. In the middle of the night, a .22 could make you jump out of bed. Like I said liar, just admit you never shot a gun before.

Every time creepy Paul Ryan opened his mouth, pretty much.

I stopped when the article said he suggested by 2080. It was never introduced as legislation, and we're talking about over 60 years which all of us will be dead. That's besides the fact legislation is not written into stone. It can be changed by different leadership, especially throughout 60 years. Why do you think our border is in a crisis? That's right, because the dementia patient reversed all of President Trump's successful policies. Why do you think our gasoline went up 30% in most places. Yep, the dementia patient reversed Trump policies again. See how it works now?

Except physically, they realized you were a danger to yourself and others.. so there was that. Let's not relitigate the fact you had five years to try to find something else to do when they told you that you couldn't drive tractors-trailers and you couldn't drive any truck because you weren't up to it. You made a decision to wait until they pulled you off the road.

Again- you gamed the system.

When did I ever say they told me I only had five years to drive a tractor-trailer? It doesn't work that way. The doctor either grants you a medical waiver to work or he doesn't. Nobody gave me five years of anything. I developed another serious medical condition during the year before I had to renew my certification, and he said I had too many medical problems for him to grant me that waiver any longer. It would put him in hot water with the government if something ever did happen that was related to my conditions.

Your problem is you refuse to learn anything in life. Somebody points out your psychological problems and ignorance to words and phrases you didn't know the meaning of, and instead of learning from better people, you continue your same ole ways. You've been constantly bringing this up for a year and a half, and think you don't have serious psychological issues. You've been losing sleep every night over this, and will continue to lose sleep every night in the future; that is unless you get the balls to actually see somebody about your serious psychological conditions. I choose you just suffer, because that was my intent when I first told you about this.

 

[JoeB131]

fuck you it takes numerous appeals and lawyers usually to get it even when it is covered if he got it in one request it was serious

Yup, he gamed the system. Good on him.

Why do you think our border is in a crisis? That's right, because the dementia patient reversed all of President Trump's successful policies. Why do you think our gasoline went up 30% in most places. Yep, the dementia patient reversed Trump policies again. See how it works now?

Guy, our border isn't in crisis... and gasoline goes up every spring...

I mean, I know, Biden is shocking you by acting like a president, not doing midnight crazy tweets and playing golf.

Meanwhile- Covid is coming to an end thanks to his leadership. Illinois is now fully open.
The economy has added nearly 3 million new jobs in the first six months of the year.
Our allies respect us again.

and instead of learning from better people,

Son, I'm better educated than you are, have more professional development, I don't live in a slum and I'm not on welfare. You are not 'Better people". You are sad-ass white trash.