HappyJoy
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How much fossil fuel does it take to build the fucking batteries?The battery pack on that stupid truck weights almost a ton and without a load it can hardly go 200 miles on a charge so only an idiot would buy one.
Ford has no worries. All these stupid Democrats in charge of the big city shitholes, Communist states and the Federal government will buy fleets of them with taxpayer's money. It will be a terrible purchase but doing stupid purchases have never stopped Democrats has it?
Thats a very good prediction. I’m disappointed I didn’t say it first.
People buy cars based on their weight or based on how much they can haul? Nobody cares how much a Tesla weighs or the old/new Hummers.
These trucks could make excellent fleet vehicles that stay within urban centers. With the exception of range these can be excellent work trucks, they start off every morning with a full tank, they have an onboard generator for electric tools and their maintenance like most EVs should be about half the cost of gas vehicles.
I'm really thinking you guys are letting your ulterior motives cloud your opinions.
I’m just agreeing that local governments are going to be buying these like crazy and Ford knows it. The capacity and the quality of the truck is irrelevant at this point. That might be a discussion in a few years once the guinea pigs are finished.
I hope they do. That will help improve the vehicle and push us closer to being less reliant on fossil fuels. They also appear to have a pretty good warranty and won't require as much maintenance.
Batteries that are fucking useless in a couple of years.
Goggle what it costs to replace the batteries in a three year old Tesla.
In a couple of years? That's false. As an example Tesla batteries last about 300-500k miles and then after that their capacity is reduced so you can still drive them but they should be replaced. Sounds a lot longer than 'a couple years' and more than many ICE engines will last without some major work, if the car even makes it that far.
Anyway, when comparing EV to gas carbon footprints, from manufacturing, driving and disposal it is clear that EVs are cleaner. Much of this of course will depend on where you drive. Though the source of energy is becoming more green all the time and even it it's a coal plant, it's still more efficient than an individual ICE
Cleaner Cars from Cradle to Grave
Over their lifetime, battery electric vehicles produce far less global warming pollution than their gasoline counterparts—and they’re getting cleaner.
www.ucsusa.org
The ICE is not (or at all really) an efficient engine. Over half it's energy doesn't reach the tires. Where as an EV loses only a fraction of that.
Where the Energy Goes: Electric Cars
EVs are 60% to 73% efficient, depending upon drive cycle (77% to 100% efficient if the energy recaptured from regenerative braking is counted).
www.fueleconomy.gov
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