For years Democrats have begged for higher taxes…if that’s what tariffs are then why all the resistance?

[Hector12]

Democrats don’t eliminate anything. You think the answer is to continue asking the high income earners and middle class to pay for waste, fraud and abuse. If Democrats practiced responsible spending, you wouldn’t have to resort to class warfare and wealth confiscation.

What you consider to be "waste fraud, and abuse" are domestic spending programs most Americans like and want to keep, like National Public Radio.

 

[LeftofLeft]

What you consider to be "waste fraud, and abuse" are domestic spending programs most Americans like and want to keep, like National Public Radio.

I just showed you a sampling of waste, fraud, and abuse. Just because something is considered “domestic spending” doesn’t mean it is necessarily responsible spending. Further, even if Americans want National Public Radio, what is the economic or social case for it to be any part funded by the taxpayer? 50 years ago, I could see the case for funding National Public Radio. Today, most of NPR funding is “underwritten” the same way hundreds of other media ventures are funded. Paid advertising.

 

[Hector12]

I just showed you a sampling of waste, fraud, and abuse. Just because something is considered “domestic spending” doesn’t mean it is necessarily responsible spending. Further, even if Americans want National Public Radio, what is the economic or social case for it to be any part funded by the taxpayer? 50 years ago, I could see the case for funding National Public Radio. Today, most of NPR funding is “underwritten” the same way hundreds of other media ventures are funded. Paid advertising.

I agree with your first sentence. I like NPR. I dislike advertising on it. I want a radio station that is unafraid to criticize the business community.

 

[MagicMike]

Ask all your silver tooth parasites from Mehico?
Ask DaShawn and ShaQuita who funds their baby factory and send them their EBT card.

You need to educate yourself on white poverty in the U.S. you biggoted cockroach.
The ignorance of this whole neo-nazi, white supremicist (KKK) paradigm of thinking is that it is based upon self-loathing and a misplaced sense of victimhood.
You hate yourself because you are white......but pretty much still a failure.
You just cannot understand any of it because somehow you believe that your whiteness SHOULD have automatically entitled you to a better life.
You feel cheated....victimized.
And because you are actually not really very intelligent to begin with (which actually goes a long way towards explaining why your life has been a failure) you blame the wrong people.....non whites.
The truth is the U.S. is full of failed white cracker vermin parasites just like yourself.
Most of them receive SNAP benefits and free healthcare too.
Only their names tend to trend toward John, and Sarah, and Peter, and Ashley, and so on rather than DeShawn and ShaQuita..


— Blue states account for about 71 percent of America’s GDP, whereas Red states only produce 29 percent of our income and wealth.
— The median family income in Blue states is $74,243. In Red states it’s $63,553. Individual states highlight the disparity: New Jersey’s median income is $89,703, while Mississippi’s is $49,111.
— Counties that voted for Biden in 2020 are more diverse, being 35 percent nonwhite compared to 16 percent nonwhite populations in counties that voted for Trump.
— Counties that voted for Biden in 2020 are better educated, with 36 percent of their population having some college education compared to Trump’s counties at 25 percent.
— Residents of Blue states live 2.2 years longer, on average, than residents of Red states.

And, second, it’s undeniably true (and documented with each hotlink below) that Republican-controlled Red states, almost across the board, have higher rates of:

— Spousal abuse
— Obesity
— Smoking
— Teen pregnancy
— Sexually transmitted diseases
— Abortion (at least before Dobbs; now it would be “forced births”)
— Bankruptcies and poverty
— Homicide and suicide
— Infant mortality
— Maternal mortality
— Forcible rape
— Robbery and aggravated assault
— Dropouts from high school
— Divorce
— Contaminated air and water
— Opiate addiction and deaths
— Unskilled workers
— Parasitic infections
— Income and wealth inequality
— Covid deaths and unvaccinated people
— Federal subsidies to states (“Red State Welfare”)
— People on welfare
— Child poverty
— Homelessness
— Spousal murder
— Unemployment
— Deaths from auto accidents
— People living on disability
— Gun deaths

Why are Red State Citizens Poorer, Less Educated, & Sicker than Blue State Citizens?

Republicans worship cheap labor — and having a steady and reliable supply of cheap labor requires widespread poverty…

hartmannreport.com

 

[LeftofLeft]

I agree with your first sentence. I like NPR. I dislike advertising on it. I want a radio station that is unafraid to criticize the business community.

You need money to do that. Find a philanthropist or entity that wants to use media to criticize the business community.

 

[Hector12]

You need money to do that. Find a philanthropist or entity that wants to use media to criticize the business community.

My point is that National Public Radio is not "Waste, Faud, and Abuse." I want the government to fund it.

 

[Hector12]

Democrats have told us that higher taxes levied on the people means more revenue in the general fund/treasury which means more free shit for the people.
If what they say is true then why aren’t they embracing and encouraging the use of tariffs?

Because tariffs are regressive tariffs on consumers. We want progressive taxes on rich people and corporations.

 

[SweetTea]

Communism does not prove that socialism does not work. It proves that a dictatorship is an inappropriate government for a command economy.

Socialism most certainly would not work in a country as diverse as the US.

 

[JoeB131]

Socialism most certainly would not work in a country as diverse as the US.

Why not?

We are a lot more socialist than you care to admit.

The Rural Red States are propped up entirely with federal dollars taken from the populated blue states.

When Trump fucked up the Covid Response, he couldn't shovel money out to people fast enough in subsidies, enhanced unemployment benefits, etc.

"Socialism for me but not for thee!"

If you guys were fucking serious about wanting to reduce government, you'd want to raise taxes to the point where we are paying for everything we spend on AND setting aside some for debt reduction. This is EXACTLY what Bill Clinton did. Then Dubya fucked it up by giving tax breaks to rich people and having no economic benefit like they promised.

 

[SweetTea]

The Rural Red States are propped up entirely with federal dollars taken from the populated blue states.

Correction, Democrats in red states are propped up entirely with federal dollars. In my state, Democrats are most certainly the takers..it isn’t even close.

When Trump fucked up the Covid Response, he couldn't shovel money out to people fast enough in subsidies, enhanced unemployment benefits, etc.

I didn’t agree with the stimulus. I didn’t get any either. I didn’t see many Democrats complaining about the free money.

If you guys were fucking serious about wanting to reduce government, you'd want to raise taxes to the point where we are paying for everything we spend on AND setting aside some for debt reduction.

Or we could reduce spending by cutting massive government inefficiency? There is a novel idea.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Socialism most certainly would not work in a country as diverse as the US.

We have been a social market democracy since 1913 that has been evolving into a corporate fascist state.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

SweetTea has never seen white rural poverty in the Red States.

Very ignorant, meaning uneducated on the subject.

 

[JoeB131]

Correction, Democrats in red states are propped up entirely with federal dollars. In my state, Democrats are most certainly the takers..it isn’t even close.

The budget for the Department of Agriculture is 213 BILLION. The rural economy is entirely propped up by the taxpayer.

I didn’t agree with the stimulus. I didn’t get any either. I didn’t see many Democrats complaining about the free money.

Point was, it happened. Socialism for Me, and not for Thee.

Or we could reduce spending by cutting massive government inefficiency? There is a novel idea.

Wingnuts have been singing that song since Ronnie Raygun, and the government keeps getting bigger.

 

[JoeB131]

SweetTea has never seen white rural poverty in the Red States.

Very ignorant, meaning uneducated on the subject.

Sure he has... Every time he looks out the window of his Double Wide and sees all the other Double Wides with Trump flags.

 

[SweetTea]

SweetTea has never seen white rural poverty in the Red States.

Very ignorant, meaning uneducated on the subject.

Of course I have seen it. I live in a red state. I didn’t make any claims about race. I said that poor people are overwhelmingly Democrats in my red state. But since you bring it up, African Americans, who are a fairly large percentage of the population in my state, do tend to be poorer on average and vote 90%+ Democrat.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Of course I have seen it. I live in a red state. I didn’t make any claims about race. I said that poor people are overwhelmingly Democrats in my red state. But since you bring it up, African Americans, who are a fairly large percentage of the population in my state, do tend to be poorer on average and vote 90%+ Democrat.

You would, too.

 

[Dragonlady]

So, above 70%? Why should there be a penalty for achieving success?

What’d they do to you?

Because success comes at a HUGE price for taxpayers. You need educated workers, transportation systems, trade deals, and police, courts and/or military protection for your personal property and your intellectual property rights. The government has to SPEND far more money to provide successful individuals with what they need to succeed than it does for the mechanic at your local garage.

See the amount of infrastructure Amazon uses - warehouses, shipping systems, air and ground transportation, employees.

When Walmart was expanding throughout the USA, they were locating their stores just outside of city limits, so they were paying much lower property tax rates than they would have paid inside town limits. Then they lowered prices, and drove the small, independent stores out of business, which destroyed the business tax base for the town, and well as leaving few local retail jobs. The towns were forced to raise property taxes to make up for the taxes paid by these businesses.

Walmart was responsible for REDUCING wages across the entire retail sector of the USA, using Medicare and food stamps to subsidize their minimum wages to most employees. And you want to reward this economic destruction by the richest family in America, by reducing their income taxes????

 

[j-mac]

Because success comes at a HUGE price for taxpayers. You need educated workers, transportation systems, trade deals, and police, courts and/or military protection for your personal property and your intellectual property rights. The government has to SPEND far more money to provide successful individuals with what they need to succeed than it does for the mechanic at your local garage.

See the amount of infrastructure Amazon uses - warehouses, shipping systems, air and ground transportation, employees.

When Walmart was expanding throughout the USA, they were locating their stores just outside of city limits, so they were paying much lower property tax rates than they would have paid inside town limits. Then they lowered prices, and drove the small, independent stores out of business, which destroyed the business tax base for the town, and well as leaving few local retail jobs. The towns were forced to raise property taxes to make up for the taxes paid by these businesses.

Walmart was responsible for REDUCING wages across the entire retail sector of the USA, using Medicare and food stamps to subsidize their minimum wages to most employees. And you want to reward this economic destruction by the richest family in America, by reducing their income taxes????

When you penalize success, you'll have much less of it...Is that what you want? A less successful country?

 

[Captain Caveman]

Why? Walmart is doing that for us.

But you personally, how much are the tariffs from any president costing you? The products/items you bought under Clinton, Obama, Biden, and Trump; how much extra did each president cost you? All I seem to read are hot air statements, tantrums, and petty arguements. If you don't know how much extra anyone has spent under any president, they're just talking shite.

How the hell does Walmart know what you buy

See what I mean !!!!

 

[22lcidw]

You need to educate yourself on white poverty in the U.S. you biggoted cockroach.
The ignorance of this whole neo-nazi, white supremicist (KKK) paradigm of thinking is that it is based upon self-loathing and a misplaced sense of victimhood.
You hate yourself because you are white......but pretty much still a failure.
You just cannot understand any of it because somehow you believe that your whiteness SHOULD have automatically entitled you to a better life.
You feel cheated....victimized.
And because you are actually not really very intelligent to begin with (which actually goes a long way towards explaining why your life has been a failure) you blame the wrong people.....non whites.
The truth is the U.S. is full of failed white cracker vermin parasites just like yourself.
Most of them receive SNAP benefits and free healthcare too.
Only their names tend to trend toward John, and Sarah, and Peter, and Ashley, and so on rather than DeShawn and ShaQuita..


— Blue states account for about 71 percent of America’s GDP, whereas Red states only produce 29 percent of our income and wealth.
— The median family income in Blue states is $74,243. In Red states it’s $63,553. Individual states highlight the disparity: New Jersey’s median income is $89,703, while Mississippi’s is $49,111.
— Counties that voted for Biden in 2020 are more diverse, being 35 percent nonwhite compared to 16 percent nonwhite populations in counties that voted for Trump.
— Counties that voted for Biden in 2020 are better educated, with 36 percent of their population having some college education compared to Trump’s counties at 25 percent.
— Residents of Blue states live 2.2 years longer, on average, than residents of Red states.

And, second, it’s undeniably true (and documented with each hotlink below) that Republican-controlled Red states, almost across the board, have higher rates of:

— Spousal abuse
— Obesity
— Smoking
— Teen pregnancy
— Sexually transmitted diseases
— Abortion (at least before Dobbs; now it would be “forced births”)
— Bankruptcies and poverty
— Homicide and suicide
— Infant mortality
— Maternal mortality
— Forcible rape
— Robbery and aggravated assault
— Dropouts from high school
— Divorce
— Contaminated air and water
— Opiate addiction and deaths
— Unskilled workers
— Parasitic infections
— Income and wealth inequality
— Covid deaths and unvaccinated people
— Federal subsidies to states (“Red State Welfare”)
— People on welfare
— Child poverty
— Homelessness
— Spousal murder
— Unemployment
— Deaths from auto accidents
— People living on disability
— Gun deaths

Why are Red State Citizens Poorer, Less Educated, & Sicker than Blue State Citizens?

Republicans worship cheap labor — and having a steady and reliable supply of cheap labor requires widespread poverty…

hartmannreport.com

I think most of us there is questioning due to the fact we started the Great Society in the mid 1960's and have spent tens of trillions of dollars on just that alone. Federal taxes, State taxes, Regional taxes, City taxes and Local taxes rose massively. We became a waging nation as the whole country is like Las Vegas now. And the tax take is massive there. Corporate and local businesses have donated massive amounts of resources also. Many people spend money they do not have a lot of. We wager every way possible. We deserve better results than we have gotten. And in return there is bitterness and an untrust of people.