For those that believe that Iran is a pushover in Military Air

[JWBooth]

someone has to be telling the truth...

Really? Since when?

 

[Harry Dresden]

Really? Since when?

look no matter whats out there one of them is telling the truth...

 

[AZrailwhale]

And if those licenses plates are buried 200 feet, face down, can your Sat see them? Like I said, this "War" isn't going to be short nor cheap.

Way back in the sixties the USA released deep ground penetrating radar photos of the Nile Delta aquifer to show the Soviets and Chinese they couldn’t hide anything underground from us. Our tech is considerably better now.

 

[Vrenn]

Way back in the sixties the USA released deep ground penetrating radar photos of the Nile Delta aquifer to show the Soviets and Chinese they couldn’t hide anything underground from us. Our tech is considerably better now.

It's one thing to see it on sensors but another to hit it 400+ feet below the ground in a Cement and Steel bunker.

 

[westwall]

It's one thing to see it on sensors but another to hit it 400+ feet below the ground in a Cement and Steel bunker.

Not anymore

 

[Vrenn]

Not anymore

Says you. Now, cupcake, be specific. What are they going to hit them with? Even the MOAB won't do the trick. You going to drop; hundreds of out of work coal miners with picks and shovels to dig it out?

 

[westwall]

Says you. Now, cupcake, be specific. What are they going to hit them with? Even the MOAB won't do the trick. You going to drop; hundreds of out of work coal miners with picks and shovels to dig it out?

Three heavy bunker busters, right on top of each other, and you're done.

If that isn't enough, start making 25,000 pound Grand Slams again.

 

[BackAgain]

No and neither can the US Military. This is why that IAF still exists and is still an exponential threat.

Vraginna ^ clearly isn’t done making shit up as he waddles along.

I’d challenge him to actually support his claim that the Iranian Air Force still exists; and I don’t even know wtf he means by “exponential” in that absurd post.

 

[AZrailwhale]

It's one thing to see it on sensors but another to hit it 400+ feet below the ground in a Cement and Steel bunker.

We can see all the exits and air shafts. Drop a JDAM on each exit and nothing gets out. Drop a FAE bomb outside an air vent or exit and everything inside gets puréed if alive or smashed if metal.

 

[Vrenn]

Three heavy bunker busters, right on top of each other, and you're done.

If that isn't enough, start making 25,000 pound Grand Slams again.

The Moabs can only penetrate about 140 feet. And there are less than 140 left. There are only a handful of aircraft that can delivery it And I wouldn't want to be in the second wave. Even tossing 3, one after another, into the field won't get the job done. And you will end up losing Aircraft Delivery systems at that point. One of the things I was taught in the military, ICUUCMe. It only works in a surprise element. Once that's lost, get ready for some heavies to be lost.

Now, stop making shit up

 

[westwall]

The Moabs can only penetrate about 140 feet. And there are less than 140 left. There are only a handful of aircraft that can delivery it And I wouldn't want to be in the second wave. Even tossing 3, one after another, into the field won't get the job done. And you will end up losing Aircraft Delivery systems at that point. One of the things I was taught in the military, ICUUCMe. It only works in a surprise element. Once that's lost, get ready for some heavies to be lost.

Now, stop making shit up

So build more. You seem to think that we are Iran. They can't build very much anymore.

But we can.

You should try and pay attention to the world around you.

 

[AZrailwhale]

It's one thing to see it on sensors but another to hit it 400+ feet below the ground in a Cement and Steel bunker.

Not to be pedantic, but a cement bunker would be as weak as one made of sand. Cement is ONE component of concrete.

 

[Cassandro]

It's one thing to see it on sensors but another to hit it 400+ feet below the ground in a Cement and Steel bunker.

Do you also consider the Pyramids to be impenetrable?

 

[Vrenn]

Do you also consider the Pyramids to be impenetrable?

Do have a point here or are you just saying nonsense just say something.

 

[Vrenn]

Do you also consider the Pyramids to be impenetrable

he penetration of the GBU-57 is about 200 feet when faced with steal and concrete . Not enough cause tremendous damage at 400 feet. It's like trying to nuclear bomb Cheyanne Mountain. You want it you have to come and get it. Maverick would never make it home.

 

[westwall]

he penetration of the GBU-57 is about 200 feet when faced with steal and concrete . Not enough cause tremendous damage at 400 feet. It's like trying to nuclear bomb Cheyanne Mountain. You want it you have to come and get it. Maverick would never make it home.

You dumbass, if needed we can rebuild the old WWII 25,000 Tallboy bomb. Heck, rebuild the 16,100 pound concrete penetrator used by Gustav, that projectile penetrated 100 meters of reinforced concrete during the siege of Sevastopol.

Anything man can build, he can destroy.

 

[Vrenn]

You dumbass, if needed we can rebuild the old WWII 25,000 Tallboy bomb. Heck, rebuild the 16,100 pound concrete penetrator used by Gustav, that projectile penetrated 100 meters of reinforced concrete during the siege of Sevastopol.

Anything man can build, he can destroy.

Are you this stupid or did you get born that way. I quoted the specs on on a 30K bomber (the gbu-57) what has the equiv of 30K of tnt and a delayed fuse to get it down to 200 feet before it explodes. The ones you are quoting are all bottle rockets in comparison.

BTW. we dropped leaflets over Trier Germany warming if they didn't remove the gun emplacements for the were going to be bombed until those emplacements are gone. The people were unable to remove the bunkers and after week of heavy bombing, emplacements are still the town was bombed out. They are still the and there two part of the city. old Trier and New Trier where only people can live in New Trier even today.

 

[westwall]

Are you this stupid or did you get born that way. I quoted the specs on on a 30K bomber (the gbu-57) what has the equiv of 30K of tnt and a delayed fuse to get it down to 200 feet before it explodes. The ones you are quoting are all bottle rockets in comparison.

BTW. we dropped leaflets over Trier Germany warming if they didn't remove the gun emplacements for the were going to be bombed until those emplacements are gone. The people were unable to remove the bunkers and after week of heavy bombing, emplacements are still the town was bombed out. They are still the and there two part of the city. old Trier and New Trier where only people can live in New Trier even today.

No, moron, they are weapons with proven track records. Your problem is you are so ignorant of history that you have no concept of what man has already done.

 

[Vrenn]

No, moron, they are weapons with proven track records. Your problem is you are so ignorant of history that you have no concept of what man has already done.

Let's play your stupid game in a comparison.

25,000 Tallboy bomb. Not designed to do a deep penetration. It cause everything to shake. It's nickname was the Earthquake bomb. It lacked the nosecone armor to get to to much over a hundred feet.

Now compare that to the MOAB.



If you used to same two bombs on on Cheyanne Mountain it would cause severe shack akin to a earthquake. Cheyanne is built on huge springs where even a 10mt Nuke can't take it out once that front door is closed.
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It didn't work on the previous bombing using same pathway. It took Iran 50 years to prepare for this.
with that in mind, it's better take the time to talk it out. But as long as you keep trying to take everything out don't bet on it that they don't have a backup unit somewhere.

 

[AZrailwhale]

he penetration of the GBU-57 is about 200 feet when faced with steal and concrete . Not enough cause tremendous damage at 400 feet. It's like trying to nuclear bomb Cheyanne Mountain. You want it you have to come and get it. Maverick would never make it home.

Cheyanne mountain is very vulnerable to nuclear weapons. It was designed to RESIST near misses from Soviet city busters with CPEs of miles. A direct hit would turn Cheyanne Mountain into a lake. I've seen it when I was stationed at Fort Carson when we provided the quick reaction force to defend it.