For those that believe that Iran is a pushover in Military Air

[Ringo]

 

[Harry Dresden]

you buy that?....

 

[Chuz Life]

Really? So how did we obliterate a girls school in the openng salvo?

According to their claims.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

According to their claims.

You mean the school wasn’t vaporized?

 

[Dante]

Here is a list of all the different types of Military Aircraft that Iran has at it's disposal.

Huh?

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Iran's Air Force has already bugged out.

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They're toast.

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[Chuz Life]

You mean the school wasn’t vaporized?

Trust but verify has to be earned or deserved.

The Iranian terrorists don't deserve even that much consideration.

 

[Chuz Life]

You mean the school wasn’t vaporized?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

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Riiiiiiight

All the photos and videos are as fake as the new Gaza moonscape

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Trust but verify has to be earned or deserved.

The Iranian terrorists don't deserve even that much consideration.

Same with Gaza children right?

 

[Chuz Life]

Riiiiiiight

All the photos and videos are as fake as the new Gaza moonscape

They could be.

I have seen neither the images nor any independent verification.

What we have seen in the past from these incidents is scenes being staged for propaganda.

Maybe you can explain how women dancing in the streets and posting risky videos of their elations online Jibes with your claim that the Great Satan has murdered their children.

 

[Chuz Life]

Same with Gaza children right?

It is very unwise to use children as human shields.

Especially against those you are calling fascists and Nazis.

 

[Chuz Life]

Same with Gaza children right?

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Mar 3, 2026

Your DNC controlled media is sitting on this as much as they can.

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[EdwinAMartin]

Here is a list of all the different types of Military Aircraft that Iran has at it's disposal.

They're all dead, Jim.

 

[Stryder50]

That's just one. And since most will be at least 200 feet below under a Granite ceiling, it's going to take some very expensive bombs to penetrate that far. Yes, it can be done but we don't have enough of those penetration bombs to go after them all. Knowing it's there doesn't mean that you can easily strike it.

Iran just announced the location of a huge missile underground facility. The US and Israel does not have the capacity to stop even half of what's there. Even with them just launching a small amount of their drones and missiles, enough got through to do some real damage and kill a lot of people in the process.

Iran has been planning this for the last 50 plus years. They just figured out that any negotiations with the Orange Sh** stain wouldn't be in earnest. This "War" isn't going to be cheap or short like the Orange Blott claimed.

There's some basic science and biology that ignorant idiots like you often don't know or fail to account for, or both.

People underground like to breathe, so it helps if they can get air from outside, above the "underground citadel".
The also like to eat and drink, go to the toilet, bath once in a while. Need conduits for fresh water in, sewage out.
They also need to be able to get in and out of the underground bunker.
And move the gear, equipment, weapons, etc. in and out from below the ground.
It also helps to have electric power conduits and phone lines, etc. connecting to the outside.

Point is there are many vulnerable points in linkage with the underground structure and the surface. Destroy, fill, block those connection channels and your impenetrable redoubt becomes a tomb.
One doesn't have to actually destroy that underground facility, just cut it off from the outside and remove it's usefulness can be enough for the purpose.

Also, at 200 foot depth, either need some good and/or large elevators (another weak point allowing for neutralization), or hundreds (or more ) feet of gradual tunnel ramps to/from the surface. Likely no much more than 15 degree slope at most..

Don't need penetration bombs going down 200 feet if you can use regular bombs to destroy and seal all the openings to the surface.

BTW, the Mullahs and their theocracy came into power barely 47 years ago and it would have taken a bit of time to start the planning and operations for this sort of operation, not the 50+ you suggest.

Also, back then, Trump wasn't a known on the future horizon decades away to consider in their planning. Also, the only ones who don't negotiate in earnest are Islamic Jihad leaders, like the Mullahs, who employ taqqiya.

This post of yours is sewage, reflecting ignorance, idiocy, and hubris.
And Treason !

 

[Stryder50]

Long ranged attack drones do not require much of a runway. Plus, hide the runway where it looks like nature and you can run those D-7 Cats out to smooth the runway just before launch of human piloted aircraft.

As for landing strips, those aren't really needed as once they start launching, everyone knows where they are and they launch everything at once. There is enough there to overwhelm enemy defenses and get through. Just remember, there are some aircraft that have anti-ship missiles and there are free standing anti-ship missiles as well. You may have just lost at least one carrier. Maybe, even both. Plus, the airbases in the surrounding countries may be lambasted as well with smaller drone missiles.

At the same time, the numerous cells across the globe go into operation. Subways, bridges, motorways, public gatherings and more.

What you are saying is that they are going to be able to be defeated and pretty well already have been. I am say, it's going to be a long and bloody war.



They have been working on this for the last 50 years and have honed the very type of attack that we have NEVER been able to defeat. Asymmetric Warfare is the reason that we were never able to completely defeat North Vietnam.

Don't have time to slice and dice this pile of BS and hubris, my recent response above should give clue what I could do here if I had the time.

A few quick points;
Aircraft with human crews that have range and payload ability to be a real and distant threat are too heavy to use dirt runways quickly bulldozed. Just doing the ground pressure per square inch of wheels in contact to the ground calculations will show that unless it's a thick and well built paved runway, the aircraft will quickly be mired up to the wheel axles.

Drones that can launch from pastures have neither the range nor the warhead capacity to do much damage and might need about a million of those "peashooters" getting through the defenses to sink an aircraft carrier, if that many.

Reports of current damage by Iranian resources are highly inflated, and far from deal -breakers.

As for those sleeper cells, good probability many have already been located and tracked so they won't be much more than a few nuisance attacks ~ pinpricks.

The USA failed to defeat North Vietnam because we didn't want to drag Russia and China further into that conflict than they already were. Risk of setting off WWIII wasn't worth taking. Like any warfare, asymmetrical needs a steady flow of resources~ammo~bodies to sustain and have an effect. Cut off the flow and the asymmetrical withers.

 

[Vrenn]

There's some basic science and biology that ignorant idiots like you often don't know or fail to account for, or both.

I have mining experience. Mine Engineers always make sure one can breath hundreds of feet below the ground.

People underground like to breathe, so it helps if they can get air from outside, above the "underground citadel".

For an underground, you NEVER take the air close to the opening. Not unless you want your breathing air polluted. You take it at an oblique angle. And it isn't hard to hide the intake. Which outhouse are you going to bomb next?

The also like to eat and drink, go to the toilet, bath once in a while. Need conduits for fresh water in, sewage out.

Water can usually be had from an underground source. If not, pipe it in. And which outhouse are you going to bomb to disrupt the intake?

They also need to be able to get in and out of the underground bunker.
And move the gear, equipment, weapons, etc. in and out from below the ground.
It also helps to have electric power conduits and phone lines, etc. connecting to the outside.

This is where the underground military facility differs from the underground mine. You already have all this underground. And you may have up to 2 years worth of food. As for the communication, again, which outhouse are you going to hit to disrupt that?

Point is there are many vulnerable points in linkage with the underground structure and the surface. Destroy, fill, block those connection channels and your impenetrable redoubt becomes a tomb.
One doesn't have to actually destroy that underground facility, just cut it off from the outside and remove it's usefulness can be enough for the purpose.

It becomes a tomb when they run out of food. Air can be manufactured like it's done on a Submarine. Water usually comes from an underground source. If I go with what the Orange TACO says, the bombers didn't destroy the underground facilities the first time. But I bet things sure did get bumpy during those attacks.

Also, at 200 foot depth, either need some good and/or large elevators (another weak point allowing for neutralization), or hundreds (or more ) feet of gradual tunnel ramps to/from the surface. Likely no much more than 15 degree slope at most..

Or, you can keep your tunnels parralel to the site, dig them a few hundred feet from the actual facility and then do a 90 degree turn into an elevator. Even if you destroy their ramps, you still don't shut the facility down.

Don't need penetration bombs going down 200 feet if you can use regular bombs to destroy and seal all the openings to the surface.

And which outhouses are you going to bomb again?

BTW, the Mullahs and their theocracy came into power barely 47 years ago and it would have taken a bit of time to start the planning and operations for this sort of operation, not the 50+ you suggest.

They started planning this in 1981. They have been on war footing since Iraq attacked them the first time. How long did it take us to put in Cheyanne Mountain and a few hundred underground facilities? 40 years is a long time.

Also, back then, Trump wasn't a known on the future horizon decades away to consider in their planning. Also, the only ones who don't negotiate in earnest are Islamic Jihad leaders, like the Mullahs, who employ taqqiya.

This post of yours is sewage, reflecting ignorance, idiocy, and hubris.
And Treason !

I feel fortunate that someone like you isn't making decisions for the Military.......oh wait.......they are but physics keeps getting in the way.

 

[Stryder50]

I have mining experience. Mine Engineers always make sure one can breath hundreds of feet below the ground.



For an underground, you NEVER take the air close to the opening. Not unless you want your breathing air polluted. You take it at an oblique angle. And it isn't hard to hide the intake. Which outhouse are you going to bomb next?




Water can usually be had from an underground source. If not, pipe it in. And which outhouse are you going to bomb to disrupt the intake?



This is where the underground military facility differs from the underground mine. You already have all this underground. And you may have up to 2 years worth of food. As for the communication, again, which outhouse are you going to hit to disrupt that?



It becomes a tomb when they run out of food. Air can be manufactured like it's done on a Submarine. Water usually comes from an underground source. If I go with what the Orange TACO says, the bombers didn't destroy the underground facilities the first time. But I bet things sure did get bumpy during those attacks.



Or, you can keep your tunnels parralel to the site, dig them a few hundred feet from the actual facility and then do a 90 degree turn into an elevator. Even if you destroy their ramps, you still don't shut the facility down.



And which outhouses are you going to bomb again?



They started planning this in 1981. They have been on war footing since Iraq attacked them the first time. How long did it take us to put in Cheyanne Mountain and a few hundred underground facilities? 40 years is a long time.



I feel fortunate that someone like you isn't making decisions for the Military.......oh wait.......they are but physics keeps getting in the way.

There are those who look for ways to get something done ....
.... then there are those who always look for ways it can not be done.

1) 40+ years of satellite observations have provided a library of images and data where underground excavations and construction have taken place, so underground facilities locations are known.

2) If the underground facility is incapable of doing it's purpose/function, then it has been neutralized.

3) Primary way to neutralize is to destroy/seal all entrances large enough for vehicles/aircraft to exit. Destroy and bury the doors.

4) Neutralize all the AAA and SAM sites that protect the airspace overhead.

5) Once you have control of the local airspace, you can conduct extensive aerial survey. Infra-red and ground penetrating radar and other sensor devices will help locate access components from "garage" doors to airshafts.

6) One could bomb every suspected "outhouse".

7) Might be able to put personnel on the ground to do more extensive survey and demolitions.

8) The deeper the underground complex the more easy it is to seal it off from access to the surface.

9) Ones doesn't need to destroy an underground facility, just render it useless by sealing access doors to the surface.

10) Once nobody and nothing can exit out of the underground facility it's neutralized. Monitor the surface over it and you can catch any "rabbits" that manage to dig their way out.

I feel fortunate that someone like you isn't providing intelligence and military decisions.
The Iranian theocracy appreciates your treason to the USA and the West.

 

[Vrenn]

There are those who look for ways to get something done ....
.... then there are those who always look for ways it can not be done.

If you haven't noticed, it's you MAGAts that are trying to find ways where it can't be done. And the Iranians have had 45 years to figure it out.

1) 40+ years of satellite observations have provided a library of images and data where underground excavations and construction have taken place, so underground facilities locations are known.

Do you mean when anyone digs a well then you should add that to your bombing maps. Again, even if you could, we don't have enough bombs to bomb that many 200 foot holes and certainly we have only a few that can reach 400 feet. And with your logic, maybe it's just a well for water. And we damned sure would run out of bombs long before you bombed all the wells.

2) If the underground facility is incapable of doing it's purpose/function, then it has been neutralized.

lf it's purpose is to enrich Uranium or park jets, missiles and drones then we failed. Again, we don't have enough deep penetration bombs to take those places out.

3) Primary way to neutralize is to destroy/seal all entrances large enough for vehicles/aircraft to exit. Destroy and bury the doors.

Yes, and when they have multiple doors you run out of bombs long before you stopped all of them.

4) Neutralize all the AAA and SAM sites that protect the airspace overhead.

Wow, that's one in a row you actually got right. And at a billion dollars a week, just how long can you keep it up? We have sunk billions of dollars into taking those sites out yet they still have a bunch of them. They prepared for 45 years for this and you Hogshead didn't plan at all.

5) Once you have control of the local airspace, you can conduct extensive aerial survey. Infra-red and ground penetrating radar and other sensor devices will help locate access components from "garage" doors to airshafts.

Sound mighty good. In fact, it might make a good war fiction book. Certainly not a best seller.

6) One could bomb every suspected "outhouse".

We already are trying and it's running more than a billion in expenses per week so far. And guess what, there are still thousands out there.

7) Might be able to put personnel on the ground to do more extensive survey and demolitions.

So far, the body count for the US Military is somewhere between 8 and 240. If we do put boots on the ground, that will easily run thousands of US casualties at the very least.

8) The deeper the underground complex the more easy it is to seal it off from access to the surface.

The one that has been discovered is 400 feet. I think there is another at 200 feet. Both still exist and any and all war supplies are still there. And they are finding ways to get their drones from the underground bases to the surface and do billions of dollars and thousands of lost lives.

9) Ones doesn't need to destroy an underground facility, just render it useless by sealing access doors to the surface.

10) Once nobody and nothing can exit out of the underground facility it's neutralized. Monitor the surface over it and you can catch any "rabbits" that manage to dig their way out.

I feel fortunate that someone like you isn't providing intelligence and military decisions.
The Iranian theocracy appreciates your treason to the USA and the West.

tRumps Boss is providing that. tRump learned of this and opened up much of the blockades on Russia during a nice chat with Putin.

 

[August West]

The only thing Iran has operating now are drones. Their missiles have been neutralized.

They can always hijack another airliner and fly it into a skyscraper. Rumor is that it`s been done before.