For Those Supporting the Portland Arrests... How Quickly the Bundy Group Members Are Forgotten

[Dogmaphobe]

I support the current arrests and I supported the actions taken against Bundy.

I am not a mindless partisan, though, which makes me a very different sort of person than the op.

 

[Lewdog]

I forget ... was Bundy burning down The Target?

Trump didn't send federal officers for burning down a Target, he said it was to protect federal property. Try to keep on subject.

I forget----were the bundy people trashing the lands upon which they had descended? Were people dying daily as a result of the BUNDY GANG?

Yes they trashed the building and there was a shoot out. The reason for the occupation was because the cattle ranchers were setting ILLEGAL fires on the federal grazing lands.

You forget Lew...that was Righteous protest.

ok ----I forget-----what were they righteously protesting? Why were cattle ranchers setting
fires on federal grazing lands----that sounds like a
serious crime to me but not as bad as the urban
nitemare ongoing by BLM

She was being sarcastic.

I got the note of sarcasm-----but still do not see how
the two issues can be conflated

How can you not see it? Trump justified sending the federal troops to PROTECT federal buildings and property.

The Bundy group occupied and damaged federal property, yet Trump pardoned them.

Why was it ok for the Bundy group to occupy and damage federal land and buildings, but he needs to send federal officers to arrest others for doing it in Portland? It's quite simple. Either you say both are just exercising their 1st Amendment rights to protest, OR both are guilty of damaging federal property. The only difference is who the 2 groups are.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

The Bundy group was fighting to retain grazing rights to vacant land they have been grazing cattle on for years. They were not fighting for the right to burn down federal buildings and never tore down a monument.

Ok so you are fine with a group taking over and doing damage to federal property as long as you agree with their cause to do so? At least you are upfront with your hypocrisy. View attachment 367274

No one damaged federal property. How many buildings were burned down? How many monuments were toppled. The Bundys had a legitimate grievance. Protesting the civil war is an excuse to burn business down. It is not a reason for anything.

 

[WelfareQueen]

I forget ... was Bundy burning down The Target?

Trump didn't send federal officers for burning down a Target, he said it was to protect federal property. Try to keep on subject.

You think the criminals tearing down statues and burning Federal properties weren't the same ones who looted and burned down The Target? They were just warming up.

Trump justified the federal officers by saying they were protecting federal property. Can you stay on topic?

So why did he pardon the Bundy group members but are having the Portland protesters arrested?

Ah....not remotely the same set of circumstances but nice try.

 

[Lewdog]

The Bundy group was fighting to retain grazing rights to vacant land they have been grazing cattle on for years. They were not fighting for the right to burn down federal buildings and never tore down a monument.

Ok so you are fine with a group taking over and doing damage to federal property as long as you agree with their cause to do so? At least you are upfront with your hypocrisy. View attachment 367274

No one damaged federal property. How many buildings were burned down? How many monuments were toppled. The Bundys had a legitimate grievance. Protesting the civil war is an excuse to burn business down. It is not a reason for anything.

Once again your hypocrisy is shown. Thank you.

"The Bundys had a legitimate grievance."

 

[Coyote]

I forget ... was Bundy burning down The Target?

Trump didn't send federal officers for burning down a Target, he said it was to protect federal property. Try to keep on subject.

You think the criminals tearing down statues and burning Federal properties weren't the same ones who looted and burned down The Target? They were just warming up.

Trump justified the federal officers by saying they were protecting federal property. Can you stay on topic?

So why did he pardon the Bundy group members but are having the Portland protesters arrested?

Ah....not remotely the same set of circumstances but nice try.

The only difference is in partisan support.

 

[irosie91]

I forget ... was Bundy burning down The Target?

Trump didn't send federal officers for burning down a Target, he said it was to protect federal property. Try to keep on subject.

I forget----were the bundy people trashing the lands upon which they had descended? Were people dying daily as a result of the BUNDY GANG?

Yes they trashed the building and there was a shoot out. The reason for the occupation was because the cattle ranchers were setting ILLEGAL fires on the federal grazing lands.

You forget Lew...that was Righteous protest.

ok ----I forget-----what were they righteously protesting? Why were cattle ranchers setting
fires on federal grazing lands----that sounds like a
serious crime to me but not as bad as the urban
nitemare ongoing by BLM

She was being sarcastic.

I got the note of sarcasm-----but still do not see how
the two issues can be conflated

How can you not see it? Trump justified sending the federal troops to PROTECT federal buildings and property.

The Bundy group occupied and damaged federal property, yet Trump pardoned them.

Why was it ok for the Bundy group to occupy and damage federal land and buildings, but he needs to send federal officers to arrest others for doing it in Portland? It's quite simple. Either you say both are just exercising their 1st Amendment rights to protest, OR both are guilty of damaging federal property. The only difference is who the 2 groups are.

NOPE!!!!! it is a matter of the SEVERITY and EXTENT of the ONGOING disaster. ------people are dying in the gutters of major cities-------haven't you noticed?
It rained in my city yesterday-----not the same as the hurricane approaching Texas

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Why was it ok for Trump to pardon the Bundy group members who took over a federal building, but suddenly it is ok to have unmakred federal officers to arrest protesters Trump says are destroying federal property? The Bundy group members did the EXACT same thing and he supported them. It's ALL political.

"In 2016, as a result of their sentencing, Ammon Bundy gathered supporters and took over the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge in southeastern Oregon. Federal authorities were faced with a 41-day armed standoff which resulted in one fatality. Bundy, who along with others, was acquitted of any charges, saidhe believed the pair of ranchers were victims of federal overreach."

Trump pardons Oregon cattle ranchers at the center of Bundy standoff

White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders took a jab at the Obama administration for issuing an “overzealous appeal.”

abcnews.go.com

First off i dont think the NWR was a federal building that was being torched or people murdered. The Bundy's were doing what their family had been doing for before you were even born, but Dirty Harry Reid who was selling our Uranium to Russia had to put a stop or he would of been exposed for his dirty dealings allowed by the Clinton Crime Foundation.

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imowired.com

Wrong. It was federal land and a federal building.

Militia, Along With Family of Cliven Bundy, Take Over Federal Land at National Wildlife Refuge in Oregon

Ammon Bundy claims the federally-owned Wildlife Refuge is the people’s facility.

abcnews.go.com

At 47 seconds into the video on the link, they even say there is no vandalism which is NOT what is going on at the federal courthouse. But to you libfucks, people burning and breaking windows and throwing dangerous items at police just isnt the same as armed civilians who havent fired a shot......

You need to do more research. They destroyed the building and the surrounding area, even digging a new illegal road.

They didnt destroy the building ya fucken idiot.

From the pictures, they left trash behind. Where's the graffiti threatening to kill the police? Where are the burned buildings? Where is the looting?

 

[Lewdog]

I forget ... was Bundy burning down The Target?

Trump didn't send federal officers for burning down a Target, he said it was to protect federal property. Try to keep on subject.

I forget----were the bundy people trashing the lands upon which they had descended? Were people dying daily as a result of the BUNDY GANG?

Yes they trashed the building and there was a shoot out. The reason for the occupation was because the cattle ranchers were setting ILLEGAL fires on the federal grazing lands.

You forget Lew...that was Righteous protest.

ok ----I forget-----what were they righteously protesting? Why were cattle ranchers setting
fires on federal grazing lands----that sounds like a
serious crime to me but not as bad as the urban
nitemare ongoing by BLM

She was being sarcastic.

I got the note of sarcasm-----but still do not see how
the two issues can be conflated

How can you not see it? Trump justified sending the federal troops to PROTECT federal buildings and property.

The Bundy group occupied and damaged federal property, yet Trump pardoned them.

Why was it ok for the Bundy group to occupy and damage federal land and buildings, but he needs to send federal officers to arrest others for doing it in Portland? It's quite simple. Either you say both are just exercising their 1st Amendment rights to protest, OR both are guilty of damaging federal property. The only difference is who the 2 groups are.

NOPE!!!!! it is a matter of the SEVERITY and EXTENT of the ONGOING disaster. ------people are dying in the gutters of major cities-------haven't you noticed?
It rained in my city yesterday-----not the same as the hurricane approaching Texas

Stay on topic please. Thanks!

 

[Coyote]

Lets reverse the question now for those of you who vilified the Bundy's and wanted them locked up why do you not hold those in Portland to the same standard? If you are going call others hypocrities make sure you are not being one yourself first.

I am fine with the Feds protecting federal property in both cases. Iam not fine with feds extending that mission beyond federal property unless in conjunction with local law enforcement and governance.

Are you trying to sound stupid? You are opposed to the FBI or DEA running operations to enforce federal law without the permission of local politicians? Just because Crazy Nancy says outrageously stupid things, do all Democrats feel obligated to be stupid too?

Did you read what I wrote? No need answer because either you did not or you are pretending to be stupid. I am referring to these particular events, you are stringing out into everything tbe feds/dea does.

I am fine with the Feds protecting federal property in both cases.

Iam not fine with feds extending that mission beyond federal property unless in conjunction with local law enforcement and governance.

 

[irosie91]

I forget ... was Bundy burning down The Target?

Trump didn't send federal officers for burning down a Target, he said it was to protect federal property. Try to keep on subject.

You think the criminals tearing down statues and burning Federal properties weren't the same ones who looted and burned down The Target? They were just warming up.

Trump justified the federal officers by saying they were protecting federal property. Can you stay on topic?

So why did he pardon the Bundy group members but are having the Portland protesters arrested?

Ah....not remotely the same set of circumstances but nice try.

The only difference is in partisan support.

the only difference?-------my city has a BLM death toll
daily

 

[irosie91]

Lets reverse the question now for those of you who vilified the Bundy's and wanted them locked up why do you not hold those in Portland to the same standard? If you are going call others hypocrities make sure you are not being one yourself first.

I am fine with the Feds protecting federal property in both cases. Iam not fine with feds extending that mission beyond federal property unless in conjunction with local law enforcement and governance.

Are you trying to sound stupid? You are opposed to the FBI or DEA running operations to enforce federal law without the permission of local politicians? Just because Crazy Nancy says outrageously stupid things, do all Democrats feel obligated to be stupid too?

Did you read what I wrote? No need answer because either you did not or you are pretending to be stupid. I am referring to these particular events, you are stringing out into everything tbe feds/dea does.

I am fine with the Feds protecting federal property in both cases.

Iam not fine with feds extending that mission beyond federal property unless in conjunction with local law enforcement and governance.

I am------when the locals prove to be incompetent

 

[Coyote]

I forget ... was Bundy burning down The Target?

Trump didn't send federal officers for burning down a Target, he said it was to protect federal property. Try to keep on subject.

I forget----were the bundy people trashing the lands upon which they had descended? Were people dying daily as a result of the BUNDY GANG?

Yes they trashed the building and there was a shoot out. The reason for the occupation was because the cattle ranchers were setting ILLEGAL fires on the federal grazing lands.

You forget Lew...that was Righteous protest.

ok ----I forget-----what were they righteously protesting? Why were cattle ranchers setting
fires on federal grazing lands----that sounds like a
serious crime to me but not as bad as the urban
nitemare ongoing by BLM

I don’t see a substantial difference in regards to federal property which is what they were charged with protecting.

 

[beautress]

I forget ... was Bundy burning down The Target?

Trump didn't send federal officers for burning down a Target, he said it was to protect federal property. Try to keep on subject.

I forget----were the bundy people trashing the lands upon which they had descended? Were people dying daily as a result of the BUNDY GANG?

Yes they trashed the building and there was a shoot out. The reason for the occupation was because the cattle ranchers were setting ILLEGAL fires on the federal grazing lands.

You forget Lew...that was Righteous protest.

ok ----I forget-----what were they righteously protesting? Why were cattle ranchers setting
fires on federal grazing lands----that sounds like a
serious crime to me but not as bad as the urban
nitemare ongoing by BLM

She was being sarcastic.

I got the note of sarcasm-----but still do not see how
the two issues can be conflated

How can you not see it? Trump justified sending the federal troops to PROTECT federal buildings and property.

The Bundy group occupied and damaged federal property, yet Trump pardoned them.

Why was it ok for the Bundy group to occupy and damage federal land and buildings, but he needs to send federal officers to arrest others for doing it in Portland? It's quite simple. Either you say both are just exercising their 1st Amendment rights to protest, OR both are guilty of damaging federal property. The only difference is who the 2 groups are.

Portland protesters are using lasers against police officers, and it is feared that three of those so wounded in less than 15 seconds may never see again. Just shootin' the laser gunners sounds good to me.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

The Bundy standoff was caused by the shitstain obama administration trying to destroy the Bundy's livelihood so the land could be seized and sold for cheap to Harry Reid's son.

For those who forgot.

Harry Reid: The Desert Fox Of Corruption

Corruption: The standoff in the Nevada desert wasn't about a desert tortoise or a rancher's failure to pay grazing fees. It was about the state's senior senator again enriching himself... Read More

www.investors.com

Compare to Trump who is fighting to keep businesses from being burned out. It's the same fight. Protecting Americans from democrats.

 

[Coyote]

I forget ... was Bundy burning down The Target?

Trump didn't send federal officers for burning down a Target, he said it was to protect federal property. Try to keep on subject.

I forget----were the bundy people trashing the lands upon which they had descended? Were people dying daily as a result of the BUNDY GANG?

Yes they trashed the building and there was a shoot out. The reason for the occupation was because the cattle ranchers were setting ILLEGAL fires on the federal grazing lands.

You forget Lew...that was Righteous protest.

ok ----I forget-----what were they righteously protesting? Why were cattle ranchers setting
fires on federal grazing lands----that sounds like a
serious crime to me but not as bad as the urban
nitemare ongoing by BLM

She was being sarcastic.

I got the note of sarcasm-----but still do not see how
the two issues can be conflated

How can you not see it? Trump justified sending the federal troops to PROTECT federal buildings and property.

The Bundy group occupied and damaged federal property, yet Trump pardoned them.

Why was it ok for the Bundy group to occupy and damage federal land and buildings, but he needs to send federal officers to arrest others for doing it in Portland? It's quite simple. Either you say both are just exercising their 1st Amendment rights to protest, OR both are guilty of damaging federal property. The only difference is who the 2 groups are.

Portland protesters are using lasers against police officers, and it is feared that three of those so wounded in less than 15 seconds may never see again. Just shootin' the laser gunners sounds good to me.

And those that did that should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

Should the officer that shot a peaceful protestor in the face, fracturing his skull be prosecuted?

 

[Godboy]

I forget ... was Bundy burning down The Target?

Trump didn't send federal officers for burning down a Target, he said it was to protect federal property. Try to keep on subject.

In the Bundy case, that federal property wasnt in jeapordy of being destroyed.

 

[Natural Citizen]

how do you feel about the concept of PRIVATE
PROPERTY?

Don't steal. The Feds hate competition.

 

[Coyote]

I forget ... was Bundy burning down The Target?

Trump didn't send federal officers for burning down a Target, he said it was to protect federal property. Try to keep on subject.

In the Bundy case, that federal property wasnt in jeapordy of being destroyed.

Oh? They caused destruction. Splitting hairs here.

 

[pknopp]

I support the Portland protests and I supported Bundy but this is a legitimate point. Bundy did trash federal property.

But, at the rally's end, Ammon Bundy and an estimated dozen supporters declared they would take up arms and occupy a federal refuge building in protest.

They ended up destroying it.

Armed militia, Bundy brothers take over federal building in rural Oregon