Zone1 For 2023, Consider a Bible Reading Plan!

[Carl in Michigan]

I will put odds that most Christians have never read the Bible cover to cover

Physical acts don't give you wisdom.

God openens your understanding IF you have a humble heart that is willing to learn.

 

[Blues Man]

Physical acts don't give you wisdom.

God openens your understanding IF you have a humble heart that is willing to learn.

You have to study something in order to learn it.

You can't sleep with a bible under your pillow and count on osmosis.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

You have to study something in order to learn it.

You can't sleep with a bible under your pillow and count on osmosis.

Nobody said that.

But IF you don't accept the Bible as the INSPIRED WORD OF GOD (you don't), NO AMOUNT OF STUDY will allow you to understand it

But God DOES REVEAL Himself to those who actually love and FOLLOW Him

 

[SweetSue92]

I will put odds that most Christians have never read the Bible cover to cover

You'd be right, and sadly that's not surprising. It stands at about one-third of "churchgoers". This does not surprise me because this stat would include super liberal, non-Scripture driven churches.

In my church I would guess well over 50%, close to 75%, but we are very Scripture based.

A 2016 Lifeway Research study found 1 in 5 Americans said they had read all of the Bible at least once. However, more than half said they have read little or none of it. Among regular churchgoers, 32% say they have read the entire Bible at least once and just 9% say they’ve read a few sentences or less.

Unfortunately, while churchgoers and evangelicals are more likely than others to engage with the Bible regularly, Scripture engagement is still trumped by social media usage.

More Americans Read the Bible During the Pandemic - Lifeway Research

Whether it was due to contemplating mortality or simply having more free time, more Americans read the Bible at least occasionally in 2021.

research.lifeway.com

 

[Blues Man]

Nobody said that.

But IF you don't accept the Bible as the INSPIRED WORD OF GOD (you don't), NO AMOUNT OF STUDY will allow you to understand it

But God DOES REVEAL Himself to those who actually love and FOLLOW Him

So you say.

I never was one for fairy tales. But unlike most Christians I have at least read the bible cover to cover

 

[ReinyDays]

Um

Homosexuality, beastiality and incest are all SEXUAL sins. That falls under Morality. The Moral Law

Citation ... where in the Bible is this distinction made? ...

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Citation ... where in the Bible is this distinction made? ...

Where it is repeated throughout the OT and NT

 

[ReinyDays]

You can get started here on learning about moral, ceremonial and civil (or judicial) laws here. This is common Christian understanding.

What is the difference between the ceremonial law, the moral law, and the judicial law in the Old Testament? | GotQuestions.org

What is the difference between the ceremonial law, the moral law, and the judicial law in the Old Testament? Is it only the ceremonial law that came to an end at the death of Christ?

www.gotquestions.org

https://www.ligonier.org/learn/articles/which-laws-apply

"Modern Protestants are divided over the applicability of mishpatim in the church age. Some believe that Jesus’ assertion that the law will remain in effect until the earth passes away (Matthew 5:18) means that believers are still bound to it. Others, however, understand that Jesus fulfilled this requirement (Matthew 5:17), and that we are instead under the law of Christ (Galatians 6:2), which is thought to be "love God and love others" (Matthew 22:36-40). Although many of the moral laws in the Old Testament give excellent examples as to how to love God and love others, and freedom from the law is not license to sin (Romans 6:15), we are not specifically bound by mishpatim."

This says we're both right ... or that the question isn't answered ...

If you read the Bible ... then you should know that God prohibited Moses from entering the Promised Land ... it was Jeremiah that lead the Jews against Jericho, when the walls came a tumbling down ... I'm not sure how your "mishpatim" fits into these lessons ... "What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid." ... it's a sin to have sex with animals, we forgive the sinner while we hate the sin ... and Leviticus is one place where sins are clearly defined ... although I do believe we can find wisdom in such matters elsewhere ...

Don't bother studying the Old Testament if you don't think it applies to you ... we both could spend the rest of our lives with just the New Testament and still not fully understand ...

 

[ReinyDays]

Where it is repeated throughout the OT and NT

Then lists of citations should be easy ...

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Then lists of citations should be easy ...

Find them yourself. They've been posted enough.

It is not my job to run your errands

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Don't bother studying the Old Testament if you don't think it applies to you ... we both could spend the rest of our lives with just the New Testament and still not fully understand

Don't study the ONLY Scriptures Jesus Himself cited.

Okay

 

[SweetSue92]

Citation ... where in the Bible is this distinction made? ...

The Bible doesn't say it's the Bible. So is it not the Bible?

 

[SweetSue92]

"Modern Protestants are divided over the applicability of mishpatim in the church age. Some believe that Jesus’ assertion that the law will remain in effect until the earth passes away (Matthew 5:18) means that believers are still bound to it. Others, however, understand that Jesus fulfilled this requirement (Matthew 5:17), and that we are instead under the law of Christ (Galatians 6:2), which is thought to be "love God and love others" (Matthew 22:36-40). Although many of the moral laws in the Old Testament give excellent examples as to how to love God and love others, and freedom from the law is not license to sin (Romans 6:15), we are not specifically bound by mishpatim."

This says we're both right ... or that the question isn't answered ...

If you read the Bible ... then you should know that God prohibited Moses from entering the Promised Land ... it was Jeremiah that lead the Jews against Jericho, when the walls came a tumbling down ... I'm not sure how your "mishpatim" fits into these lessons ... "What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid." ... it's a sin to have sex with animals, we forgive the sinner while we hate the sin ... and Leviticus is one place where sins are clearly defined ... although I do believe we can find wisdom in such matters elsewhere ...

Don't bother studying the Old Testament if you don't think it applies to you ... we both could spend the rest of our lives with just the New Testament and still not fully understand ...

You are fully incoherent now. I don't even know why you would reference Moses...and it was JOSHUA who fought the battle of Jericho, not the prophet Jeremiah.

Oh my

 

[norwegen]

Anyway ... we can't simply read the OT and expect to understand it ... we have to LIVE the OT ... spend seven years under the letter of the Law ... every Law we can, with the understanding we will utterly fail ... and except for mercy, we'll be condemned to an eternity in Hell ... so take advantage, a single chicken as an offering is as good as two turtle doves, and God will still smile if it's orphan children eating the chicken instead of Levitical priests ...

We? I hope you're not serious. We're not Israel; the Mosaic Law is not our law.

And now, after the nation's dissolution, it is no one's law. All civil, ceremonial, and dietary laws of the OT are done away with. The Israelites began to understand that in the first century. Their dietary laws, for example, served no purpose (Rom 14:17; Heb 13:9).

 

[AsherN]

We? I hope you're not serious. We're not Israel; the Mosaic Law is not our law.

And now, after the nation's dissolution, it is no one's law. All civil, ceremonial, and dietary laws of the OT are done away with. The Israelites began to understand that in the first century. Their dietary laws, for example, served no purpose (Rom 14:17; Heb 13:9).

And yet we follow them stiill.

 

[SweetSue92]

And yet we follow them stiill.

Who is "we"?

 

[norwegen]

And yet we follow them stiill.

No, not "we." I don't.

Some people do. Why would they? Why would an American abide Tanzanian law? Why would a Tanzanian abide American law? Why would anyone abide ancient Cush law or ancient Israelite law?

 

[AsherN]

Who is "we"?

Jews. We still follow the Law.

 

[SweetSue92]

Jews. We still follow the Law.

Oh yes, if you're Jewish, but unless you're Orthodox I don't think you follow all OT laws. Yes?

 

[norwegen]

Jews. We still follow the Law.

You stone women for adultery? You charge more interest on loans to foreigners than you do to your countrymen? You sacrifice animals in a temple?