Florist Sued for Refusing Service to Gay Couple Pens Defiant Letter Rejecting Gov’t Settlement Offer

[Redfish]

I don't think that is what he is saying at all. If you open your business to the public, then you have to let the public in.

Yes, a better scenario would have been for the florist to tell them that she was totally booked up for that day, rather than refuse due to their gayness.

Sure, cuz christians lie, right?

They sure seem to have a blind spot when it comes to that Commandment about "bearing false witness".

so now all anti-gay florists are Christians? No muslim florists?

I am waiting for a gay couple to file suit against a muslim florist. Probably going to be a long wait.

Oh my....did you just assume that the Commandments were JUST for Christians?

No, the point I was making is that gays are condemned to death in muslim countries. A muslim florist would never do business with a gay couple, but we don't ever hear or any gays suing muslim florists, muslim restaurants, muslim dry cleaners, or any other muslim business. Why is that?

Could it possibly be that liberals hate Christians but for some crazy assed reason love muslims?

 

[Redfish]

They gain the right, even the expectation, to hold their heads up and proclaim that they will not be fucked with.

You need someone else's approval to hold your head up? Even if it's by force? No wonder your thinking is screwed up.

And it gets even more fascinating. So if someone fights for their rights not to be discriminated against, it means that they are seeking approval to hold their head up? Tell that one to Rosa Parks. She was just needy and wanted attention, eh?

Gay is not a race.

 

[bodecea]

so a business owner has no freedom, only minorities have freedom? think about it, thats what you are saying.

I don't think that is what he is saying at all. If you open your business to the public, then you have to let the public in.

Yes, a better scenario would have been for the florist to tell them that she was totally booked up for that day, rather than refuse due to their gayness.

Sure, cuz christians lie, right?

They sure seem to have a blind spot when it comes to that Commandment about "bearing false witness".

so now all anti-gay florists are Christians? No muslim florists?

I am waiting for a gay couple to file suit against a muslim florist. Probably going to be a long wait.

Why would it be a long wait? No Muslim florists? No Muslim florists in states with PA laws?

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Gay is not a race.

No, it's a minority, which we protect here. All but one race here are also minorities. See how that works?

 

[Redfish]

I don't think that is what he is saying at all. If you open your business to the public, then you have to let the public in.

Yes, a better scenario would have been for the florist to tell them that she was totally booked up for that day, rather than refuse due to their gayness.

Sure, cuz christians lie, right?

They sure seem to have a blind spot when it comes to that Commandment about "bearing false witness".

so now all anti-gay florists are Christians? No muslim florists?

I am waiting for a gay couple to file suit against a muslim florist. Probably going to be a long wait.

Why would it be a long wait? No Muslim florists? No Muslim florists in states with PA laws?

I am sure there are muslim florists. Why hasn't any gay couple sued one of them? why are only Christian florists getting sued?

 

[PaintMyHouse]

It does seem, in both of these threads, that the RW posters are advocating rolling over and taking discrimination.

No one said that but you want the businesses to roll over and forfeit their freedoms.

That happen when they opened the business. Their rights became "limited".

 

[Iceweasel]

They gain the right, even the expectation, to hold their heads up and proclaim that they will not be fucked with.

You need someone else's approval to hold your head up? Even if it's by force? No wonder your thinking is screwed up.

And it gets even more fascinating. So if someone fights for their rights not to be discriminated against, it means that they are seeking approval to hold their head up? Tell that one to Rosa Parks. She was just needy and wanted attention, eh?

Like I said before, you're a liar. He said "They gain the right, even the expectation, to hold their heads up and proclaim that they will not be fucked with."

So he's saying he needs it to hold his head up. Rosa Parks probably already did. But it isn't the same thing for reasons mentioned, i.e., public vs. private. Have someone explain the difference to you.

 

[chikenwing]

Or she can just go into a business that doesn't require her to offend her imaginary sky pixie.

Wrong answer Joe

-Geaux

No, that's perfectly the right answer.

She can have a "religion", but her business is a PUBLIC ACCOMMODATION. Therefore, if she advertises a service, she has to provide it to anyone who asks for it, not just people who are in good graces with her sky pixie.

Wrong its a private business,its not a public one

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Or she can just go into a business that doesn't require her to offend her imaginary sky pixie.

Wrong answer Joe

-Geaux

No, that's perfectly the right answer.

She can have a "religion", but her business is a PUBLIC ACCOMMODATION. Therefore, if she advertises a service, she has to provide it to anyone who asks for it, not just people who are in good graces with her sky pixie.

Wrong its a private business,its not a public one

Private, Private open to the Public, Public. They all follow different rules.

 

[bodecea]

Yes, a better scenario would have been for the florist to tell them that she was totally booked up for that day, rather than refuse due to their gayness.

Sure, cuz christians lie, right?

They sure seem to have a blind spot when it comes to that Commandment about "bearing false witness".

so now all anti-gay florists are Christians? No muslim florists?

I am waiting for a gay couple to file suit against a muslim florist. Probably going to be a long wait.

Oh my....did you just assume that the Commandments were JUST for Christians?

No, the point I was making is that gays are condemned to death in muslim countries. A muslim florist would never do business with a gay couple, but we don't ever hear or any gays suing muslim florists, muslim restaurants, muslim dry cleaners, or any other muslim business. Why is that?

Could it possibly be that liberals hate Christians but for some crazy assed reason love muslims?

Yes...gays are condemned to death in muslim countries. Are we supposed to be humble and grateful that you don't do that to us here in the U.S.?
And what makes you say that ALL muslim florists in the U.S. would not do business with us? Are they ALL fundamentalist crazies?
Why have we not heard of any gays suing muslim florists, muslim restaurants, muslim dry cleaners or any other muslim business? Maybe because they haven't been refused service in any of those? Maybe because Americanized Muslims are not crazy fundamentalists looking for a FOX gig? Or....maybe it hasn't happened yet in a state with PA laws.

Do you have any evidence of any U.S. Muslim business rejecting gay customers? If so, DO SHARE.

 

[bodecea]

They gain the right, even the expectation, to hold their heads up and proclaim that they will not be fucked with.

You need someone else's approval to hold your head up? Even if it's by force? No wonder your thinking is screwed up.

And it gets even more fascinating. So if someone fights for their rights not to be discriminated against, it means that they are seeking approval to hold their head up? Tell that one to Rosa Parks. She was just needy and wanted attention, eh?

Gay is not a race.

And.............who have made the claim that Gay is a race?

 

[Uncensored2008]

You can't force a small business to endorse activities/gatherings they have no interest in endorsing. Particularly if that activity constitutes sacrilege in their eyes.

Sucks to be a queer who wants to force Christians to kowtow at their *weddings*. Go pick your own flowers.

Of course they can, they have guns and illegitimate, unconstitutional laws.

 

[Uncensored2008]

And 145 pages, and these guys are still as clueless as the Whites Only folks, and that why we use the law. That's the only way to fix this when so many still live under rocks.

Their "morality" will have to catch up, as usual.

Because the Irish aren't white, right you racist troll?

 

[bodecea]

It does seem, in both of these threads, that the RW posters are advocating rolling over and taking discrimination.

No one said that but you want the businesses to roll over and forfeit their freedoms.

They most certainly can try....I'm sure their lawyers appreciate the income.

 

[bodecea]

I'm pretty sure the laws of Louisiana don't apply to this case. But yeah, if you feel it is wrong they won't serve you then you should stand up and do something about it.

I asked you to cite the statutes that applied in this case, guess you can't do that.

Why would I want to force a black bar to serve me? What would I gain by doing that? maybe a gunshot or a knife in the gut. So I force them to serve me, a fight starts, people get hurt, the cops come and arrest a bunch of people, the bar owner loses his business. All because I chose to be an asshole?

The whole gay agenda is just foolish, it is hurting the gay cause much more than helping it.

This was a court ruling. Do I actually have to show the court was referencing a statute?

I have no idea why you would want to. I have already said that is your choice. Do it or don't. You have the option to do it if it means that much to you. Apparently it meant that much to this particular couple.

What did they gain? They get to pay legal bills, court costs, risk being counter sued. Managed to alienate many who might otherwise support them.

Liberals do not think rationally about anything. You shit in your soup and then ***** because it tastes bad.

They gain the right, even the expectation, to hold their heads up and proclaim that they will not be fucked with. If you don't see the need to fight for that, then we just are never going to understand each other.

ever hear the expression "pick your battles"? this kind of crap hurts the gay cause more than helps it.

I understand that our constitution give equal rights to every citizen, no special rights to minorities or majorities. Gays want special rights, want to redefine marriage, want to redefine human biology and sexuality. Homosexuality is not a normal human condition, it is an aberation, a mental illness.

mentally ill people are entitled to equal rights, they are not entitled to force anyone else to accept their orientation as normal.

Why oh why would someone who has the law on their side just roll over and take it?

 

[PaintMyHouse]

And 145 pages, and these guys are still as clueless as the Whites Only folks, and that why we use the law. That's the only way to fix this when so many still live under rocks.

Their "morality" will have to catch up, as usual.

Because the Irish aren't white, right you racist troll?

The Irish are a minority and if we hadn't passed laws to protect them this would still be legal. You guys won't be decent on your own so we use the law instead.

 

[kaz]

And btw, there were no laws against homosexual marriage until the bigots passed them.

So name a gay couple that got married before the courts started ordering States to marry gay couples

These were the first to try, when there were no laws on the books here:

"On May 18, 1970, two University of Minnesota students, Richard John 'Jack' Baker and James Michael McConnell applied to Hennepin County District Court clerk Gerald Nelson for a marriage license. He denied the application, because the applicants were both men. Baker and McConnell sued Nelson, claiming Minnesota law on marriage made no mention of gender. The trial court was not impressed with the argument, agreeing with Nelson. The state Supreme Court agreed with the lower court. When Baker-McConnell went to the U.S. Supreme Court, the couple was rebuffed again."
Timeline of same-sex marriage - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Exactly, thanks. There was no gay marriage, the whole thing about no laws being on the books was a canard, homosexual couples could not marry

 

[Pedro de San Patricio]

Look, you've got it all wrong. Here's what happened here: A florist set up a business to sell flowers for weddings. A gay couple tried to buy flowers from her for their wedding. She refused to do so on the grounds that her religion doesn't condone this. The gay couple posted about her refusal all over all the social media websites and set up a lawsuit against her business for discrimination and against her personally for being a bigot. She's probably going to lose her business and much of her savings over this. When this happens, the left is going to applaud the couple for standing up to the gay hating Christian bullies and she's going to become one of the homeless panhandlers the left sometimes gives a sandwich so they can feel morally superior to everyone else. This is all really just, and you're just an asshole and will have your life promptly destroyed in the name of justice, courtesy of the fine legal team of the ACLU, if you don't think this is the case.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Look, you've got it all wrong. Here's what happened here: a florist set up a business to sell flowers for weddings. A gay couple tried to buy flowers from her for their wedding. She refused to do so on the grounds that her religion doesn't condone this. The gay couple posted about her refusal all over all the social media websites and set up a lawsuit against her business for discrimination and against her personally for being a bigot. She's probably going to lose her business and much of her savings over this. When this happens, the left is going to applaud the couple for standing up to the gay hating Christian bullies and she's going to become one of the homeless panhandlers the left sometimes gives a sandwich so they can feel morally superior to everyone else. This is all really just, and you're just an asshole and will have your life promptly destroyed in the name of justice, courtesy of the fine legal team of the ACLU, if you don't think this is the case.

Bake the stupid cake, sell the stupid flowers. This isn't rocket science, it's business.

 

[bodecea]

Or she can just go into a business that doesn't require her to offend her imaginary sky pixie.

Wrong answer Joe

-Geaux

No, that's perfectly the right answer.

She can have a "religion", but her business is a PUBLIC ACCOMMODATION. Therefore, if she advertises a service, she has to provide it to anyone who asks for it, not just people who are in good graces with her sky pixie.

Wrong its a private business,its not a public one

Private? So the woman doesn't have to follow OSHA safety standards? She doesn't have to keep track of payroll and taxes for her employees? She didn't have to get a business license?