Florist Sued for Refusing Service to Gay Couple Pens Defiant Letter Rejecting Gov’t Settlement Offer

[SassyIrishLass]

How about this hypothetical. A man's brother in law passes away. After doing some research as to florists in his area he identifies the flower shop owned by a gay. He orders an elaborate funeral arrangement with a banner that says God Hates Fags. Should the flower shop be shut down if they refuse this order?

They are going to respond with the florist doesn't have to comply because it's "hate speech"

 

[bodecea]

Capitalism is regulated here, and everywhere else. Time to grow up now.

...and the regulation is abusive as we see in the example of the florist that was simply exercising his moral and religious conviction, which suppose to be protected under our Bill of Rights.

Time for you to get your head of your abusive government loving ass.

Why won't you answer my questions? A florist refusing to serve a Catholic wedding would also be exercising his/her moral and religious conviction too, right?

 

[PaintMyHouse]

How about this hypothetical. A man's brother in law passes away. After doing some research as to florists in his area he identifies the flower shop owned by a gay. He orders an elaborate funeral arrangement with a banner that says God Hates Fags. Should the flower shop be shut down if they refuse this order?

Sell him the flowers, he can get the banner elsewhere since in that situation those are Fighting Words, and therefore not protected. Personally, if I did banners, he can have whatever he likes up to the point where what he wants is illegal, as long as the check clears.

 

[bodecea]

How about this hypothetical. A man's brother in law passes away. After doing some research as to florists in his area he identifies the flower shop owned by a gay. He orders an elaborate funeral arrangement with a banner that says God Hates Fags. Should the flower shop be shut down if they refuse this order?

They are going to respond with the florist doesn't have to comply because it's "hate speech"

Why are you avoiding answering the questions in my scenerio?

 

[Silhouette]

It was legal for the government to abuse the Jews in Germany just like it is legal for the government to abuse the florist in this example. Both are government tyranny, just different degrees. The mindset is the same. Government control.

And the Rainbow Reicht has already proven they will topple governors who speak out against gay marraige, or who arrest a major gay funds donor on suspicion of sodomizing a minor...what's one little florist to that militant manifesto?

 

[PaintMyHouse]

How about this hypothetical. A man's brother in law passes away. After doing some research as to florists in his area he identifies the flower shop owned by a gay. He orders an elaborate funeral arrangement with a banner that says God Hates Fags. Should the flower shop be shut down if they refuse this order?

They are going to respond with the florist doesn't have to comply because it's "hate speech"

Hate Speech really isn't on the books yet however Fighting Words are, and they aren't protected.

 

[Katzndogz]

How about this hypothetical. A man's brother in law passes away. After doing some research as to florists in his area he identifies the flower shop owned by a gay. He orders an elaborate funeral arrangement with a banner that says God Hates Fags. Should the flower shop be shut down if they refuse this order?

They are going to respond with the florist doesn't have to comply because it's "hate speech"

And a wedding that insults the morality of the florist isn't?

All of this controversy whether it's a florist, cake decorator or photographer have one thing in common. They are assaults against artistic freedom.

Even more than religious freedom artistic freedom should be absolute and unquestioned. No one has the right to the artistry of another.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

How about this hypothetical. A man's brother in law passes away. After doing some research as to florists in his area he identifies the flower shop owned by a gay. He orders an elaborate funeral arrangement with a banner that says God Hates Fags. Should the flower shop be shut down if they refuse this order?

Sell him the flowers, he can get the banner elsewhere since in that situation those are Fighting Words, and therefore not protected. Personally, if I did banners, he can have whatever he likes up to the point where what he wants is illegal, as long as the check clears.

So a baker can bake a wedding cake for homos but refuse to put any wording or two little homos on the top of it?

 

[BlindBoo]

I support civil rights

No you don't, you support businesses rights to discriminate indiscriminately.

 

[Skylar]

How about this hypothetical. A man's brother in law passes away. After doing some research as to florists in his area he identifies the flower shop owned by a gay. He orders an elaborate funeral arrangement with a banner that says God Hates Fags. Should the flower shop be shut down if they refuse this order?

They are going to respond with the florist doesn't have to comply because it's "hate speech"

Why are you avoiding answering the questions in my scenerio?

Perhaps they don't actually give a fiddler's **** about personal liberty or religious conviction......but Christian Sovereign Citizen arguments, where Christians can ignore any law they don't like.

But not Muslims, Hindus, Zorastrians, Buddhists or any other group. Just Christians.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

How about this hypothetical. A man's brother in law passes away. After doing some research as to florists in his area he identifies the flower shop owned by a gay. He orders an elaborate funeral arrangement with a banner that says God Hates Fags. Should the flower shop be shut down if they refuse this order?

Sell him the flowers, he can get the banner elsewhere since in that situation those are Fighting Words, and therefore not protected. Personally, if I did banners, he can have whatever he likes up to the point where what he wants is illegal, as long as the check clears.

So a baker can bake a wedding cake for homos but refuse to put any wording or two little homos on the top of it?

If they don't do words, or the words are offensive, and they don't stock homosexual cake toppers, sure thing.

 

[Skylar]

How about this hypothetical. A man's brother in law passes away. After doing some research as to florists in his area he identifies the flower shop owned by a gay. He orders an elaborate funeral arrangement with a banner that says God Hates Fags. Should the flower shop be shut down if they refuse this order?

Sell him the flowers, he can get the banner elsewhere since in that situation those are Fighting Words, and therefore not protected. Personally, if I did banners, he can have whatever he likes up to the point where what he wants is illegal, as long as the check clears.

So a baker can bake a wedding cake for homos but refuse to put any wording or two little homos on the top of it?

Probably.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

How about this hypothetical. A man's brother in law passes away. After doing some research as to florists in his area he identifies the flower shop owned by a gay. He orders an elaborate funeral arrangement with a banner that says God Hates Fags. Should the flower shop be shut down if they refuse this order?

Sell him the flowers, he can get the banner elsewhere since in that situation those are Fighting Words, and therefore not protected. Personally, if I did banners, he can have whatever he likes up to the point where what he wants is illegal, as long as the check clears.

So a baker can bake a wedding cake for homos but refuse to put any wording or two little homos on the top of it?

If they don't do words, or the words are offensive, and they don't stock homosexual cake toppers, sure thing.

LOL What a lame attempt at spin

 

[Skylar]

It was legal for the government to abuse the Jews in Germany just like it is legal for the government to abuse the florist in this example. Both are government tyranny, just different degrees. The mindset is the same. Government control.

And the Rainbow Reicht has already proven they will topple governors who speak out against gay marraige, or who arrest a major gay funds donor on suspicion of sodomizing a minor...what's one little florist to that militant manifesto?

The Rainbow Reicht......the LBGT cult.......but you're not motivated by personal animus toward gays?

 

[g5000]

All of this controversy whether it's a florist, cake decorator or photographer have one thing in common. They are assaults against artistic freedom.

Nope. This is business. Money changes hands.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

How about this hypothetical. A man's brother in law passes away. After doing some research as to florists in his area he identifies the flower shop owned by a gay. He orders an elaborate funeral arrangement with a banner that says God Hates Fags. Should the flower shop be shut down if they refuse this order?

They are going to respond with the florist doesn't have to comply because it's "hate speech"

And a wedding that insults the morality of the florist isn't?

All of this controversy whether it's a florist, cake decorator or photographer have one thing in common. They are assaults against artistic freedom.

Even more than religious freedom artistic freedom should be absolute and unquestioned. No one has the right to the artistry of another.

Artistic Freedom is a push, that the courts have found wanting for far. In business you serve the customers. What they do with their lives is really none of your business.

 

[Silhouette]

Perhaps they don't actually give a fiddler's **** about personal liberty or religious conviction......but Christian Sovereign Citizen arguments, where Christians can ignore any law they don't like.

But not Muslims, Hindus, Zorastrians, Buddhists or any other group. Just Christians.

Christians are not in any way ignoring God's law when they refuse to serve gay weddings. They are mandated to do so with those lifestyles as prescribed in the New Testament (the book they follow) in Jude 1. Jude 1 doesn't have any gray areas for interpretation. The punishment is as severe for those Christians doing nothing to stop the steamroller as it is for those actively giving it a leg-up.

What trumps...business law or the 1st Amendment? I think I know which one and you do too..

 

[Skylar]

Perhaps they don't actually give a fiddler's **** about personal liberty or religious conviction......but Christian Sovereign Citizen arguments, where Christians can ignore any law they don't like.

But not Muslims, Hindus, Zorastrians, Buddhists or any other group. Just Christians.

Christians are not in any way ignoring God's law when they refuse to serve gay weddings. They are mandated to do so with those lifestyles as prescribed in the New Testament (the book they follow) in Jude 1.

Jude 1 makes no mention of selling cake.

You're hallucinating again.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

How about this hypothetical. A man's brother in law passes away. After doing some research as to florists in his area he identifies the flower shop owned by a gay. He orders an elaborate funeral arrangement with a banner that says God Hates Fags. Should the flower shop be shut down if they refuse this order?

Sell him the flowers, he can get the banner elsewhere since in that situation those are Fighting Words, and therefore not protected. Personally, if I did banners, he can have whatever he likes up to the point where what he wants is illegal, as long as the check clears.

So a baker can bake a wedding cake for homos but refuse to put any wording or two little homos on the top of it?

If they don't do words, or the words are offensive, and they don't stock homosexual cake toppers, sure thing.

LOL What a lame attempt at spin

That's not spin, that's truth. I'm not shocked that you wouldn't recognize it.

 

[Flash]

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Her morality, dummy. And running a business isn't serving God, it's serving man.

Everything a true believer does is serving God. If you would go to church every once in a while you would understand that. Our Founding Fathers understood that and that is why they said that the state should not interfere with religion. It is like the the cornerstone of our Republic. You have heard of the 1st Amendment, haven't you? Just because you don't like this concept of freedom of religion don't mean that it is not guaranteed under the Bill of Rights.

The fact of the matter is that you love queers because they are a special interest group of the Democrat Party so you want to protect the butt hole fuckers and you don't mind stepping on the rights of religious people to do it.

You are showing you Libtard stupidity and that is why you have been intellectually and morally dishonest in this discussion.