Florist Sued for Refusing Service to Gay Couple Pens Defiant Letter Rejecting Gov’t Settlement Offer

[bodecea]

Well how else are they going to be able to kill all the people they want to kill? People aren't going to ELECT to be offed....

^ Remember what I said about RWrs sucking at analogies?

 

[Carla_Danger]

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Well that's tough shit. How bout that?

That sounds like the attitude the Nazis had with the Jews. "We are talking away your freedom and if you don't like it then tough shit".

Typical Libtard mindset.

I'm sorry about you losing your freedumb to discriminate. LOL! It just breaks my heart.

 

[Uncensored2008]

That version of Freedom hasn't existed in this country, ever. Right and Responsibilities, now you know.

You don't support rights. Rights accrue to all - regardless of their popularity with the party. Rights pertain to Christians whom the party hates, and to gays, whom the party loves as a voting bloc.

You oppose rights in favor of privilege granted by the party to groups favored by the party and withheld from those whom the party deigns enemy.

I just as strongly support the right of a gay florist to refuse to create floral arrangements for a Christian church. Free people decide who they will trade with - the choice is not for the government or the party.

 

[koshergrl]

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That version of Freedom hasn't existed in this country, ever. Right and Responsibilities, now you know.

You are trying (poorly) to justify tyranny. You Libtrads love government tyranny, don't you? You love being told what to do, don't you? It is all about that big government telling you how to live you life, isn't it? No personal responsibility or anything. Just do what the bureaucrats elected by special interest groups tell you what to do. Paradise, huh?

OH THE TYRANNY of expecting those with business licenses to treat all legal customers equally. OH THE HUMANITY! OH THE SLAVERY!

Our forefathers thought so, that's why they risked death to rebel.

 

[Silhouette]

I'm sorry about you losing your freedumb to discriminate. LOL! It just breaks my heart.

People have not lost any freedom to discriminate against which lifestyles they approve or disapprove of. Not at all. Point me to case law. I'll point you to Hobby Lobby.

 

[Dana7360]

This is the exact same debate our country had 60 years ago about WHITE ONLY lunch counters.

What is wrong with that?

Why should the government tell you who you have to serve at your lunch counter? Is this Nazi Germany?

No it's America.

Here in America we have this document called the Constitution. We base our nation and laws on that document.

In that document there's a clause called the Commerce Clause. That says that the government can regulate commerce.

Americans decided to regulate business so that there is no discrimination to anyone in our society.

That's why the government can tell you who you have to serve at a lunch counter.

It's your own fault if you hate freedom and our constitution. I would suggest you find a nation that has no constitution and has no discrimination laws. You're not going to find it here in America.

 

[Uncensored2008]

It must suck to be a conservative. Black people get to ride at the front of the bus, and businesses can't discriminate based on sexual orientation.

Oh the sacrifices you've had to make!

Funny - fact shows it was your democrats who forced blacks to the back of the bus.

Tell me, can a business discriminate based on bathing? Why or why not? (I'll wait while you log on to KOS to have the answer programmed into you..)

 

[PaintMyHouse]

That version of Freedom hasn't existed in this country, ever. Right and Responsibilities, now you know.

You don't support rights. Rights accrue to all - regardless of their popularity with the party. Rights pertain to Christians whom the party hates, and to gays, whom the party loves as a voting bloc.

You oppose rights in favor of privilege granted by the party to groups favored by the party and withheld from those whom the party deigns enemy.

I just as strongly support the right of a gay florist to refuse to create floral arrangements for a Christian church. Free people decide who they will trade with - the choice is not for the government or the party.

You live in a fantasy world, the world of a child. I live in the real one, where deals are cut and rights have limitations.

 

[bodecea]

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That version of Freedom hasn't existed in this country, ever. Right and Responsibilities, now you know.

You are trying (poorly) to justify tyranny. You Libtrads love government tyranny, don't you? You love being told what to do, don't you? It is all about that big government telling you how to live you life, isn't it? No personal responsibility or anything. Just do what the bureaucrats elected by special interest groups tell you what to do. Paradise, huh?

OH THE TYRANNY of expecting those with business licenses to treat all legal customers equally. OH THE HUMANITY! OH THE SLAVERY!

Our forefathers thought so, that's why they risked death to rebel.

So...they rebelled against being expected to treat all customers equally. I missed that part of American History.

 

[bodecea]

It must suck to be a conservative. Black people get to ride at the front of the bus, and businesses can't discriminate based on sexual orientation.

Oh the sacrifices you've had to make!

Funny - fact shows it was your democrats who forced blacks to the back of the bus.

Tell me, can a business discriminate based on bathing? Why or why not? (I'll wait while you log on to KOS to have the answer programmed into you..)

Southern Democrats and Southern Republicans did. Yes they did. While Northern Democrats and Northern Republicans worked for civil rights.

 

[Carla_Danger]

I'm sorry about you losing your freedumb to discriminate. LOL! It just breaks my heart.

People have not lost any freedom to discriminate against which lifestyles they approve or disapprove of. Not at all. Point me to case law. I'll point you to Hobby Lobby.

I was kidding with that comment, with the Washington State law (WLAD) in mind. I should have made that clear.

 

[bodecea]

It must suck to be a conservative. Black people get to ride at the front of the bus, and businesses can't discriminate based on sexual orientation.

Oh the sacrifices you've had to make!

Funny - fact shows it was your democrats who forced blacks to the back of the bus.

Tell me, can a business discriminate based on bathing? Why or why not? (I'll wait while you log on to KOS to have the answer programmed into you..)

So...you now want to compare being gay or being black or being of a certain religion with bathing.

Fascinating where you want to take a simple law preventing discrimination in business dealings.

 

[koshergrl]

That version of Freedom hasn't existed in this country, ever. Right and Responsibilities, now you know.

You don't support rights. Rights accrue to all - regardless of their popularity with the party. Rights pertain to Christians whom the party hates, and to gays, whom the party loves as a voting bloc.

You oppose rights in favor of privilege granted by the party to groups favored by the party and withheld from those whom the party deigns enemy.

I just as strongly support the right of a gay florist to refuse to create floral arrangements for a Christian church. Free people decide who they will trade with - the choice is not for the government or the party.

You live in a fantasy world, the world of a child. I live in the real one, where deals are cut and rights have limitations.

Rights don't have limitations, scum.

I'm so glad that you're powerless, as well as witless. When creepy freaks like you slime into power...

Killing Fields - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
Nazi concentration camps - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
MURDER BY COMMUNISM

 

[Flash]

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Work to repeal PA laws then. I'm sure you can get a majority to agree with you.

Democracy is a piss poor form of government when it allows the majority (usually only a plurality) to take away the rights of the minority. In this case a simple florist being able to decide who he wanted to do business with.

Quite often the majority will not do what is morally and intellectually the right thing to do because of greed, not to mention being misinformed or just plain stupid. We saw that in the election of Obama, didn't we?

Our Founding Fathers understood this very well by making this a Republic with a Bill of Rights. The only problem is that the Bill of Rights did not address individual protection against the abuse of the tyranny of government and the majority strongly enough. Even if it had then it would have been ignored by corrupt politicians like Obama who have redfined or ignored the Constitution.

Our system of government simply put is a failure at providing real freedom for the American citizens. That florist got a good dose of that, didn't he?

 

[Silhouette]

Here in America we have this document called the Constitution. We base our nation and laws on that document.

In that document there's a clause called the Commerce Clause. That says that the government can regulate commerce..

Here in America we also have a thing called The First Amendment. It is the unchallengeable right of a person to exercise their religion in their daily life.

Since we are tallking about a lifestyle here and not a race of people, Christians and others may absolutely reject serving anyone whose lifestyle forces that Christian to quit practicing the edicts of their faith....particularly those like in Jude 1 of the New Testament which spells out quite clearly that promoting a homosexual cultural takeover of any society or human settlement is worthy of eternal damnation. And just passively letting it happen is equally as damnable as actively assisting it.

Plus, we live in a democracy and when it comes to this quesiton and the LGBT cult lifestyles, there is a CLEAR majority on this question. A church is nothing more than a congregation of individual Christians: Should Churches be forced to accomodate for homosexual weddings Page 787 US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum Refer to the numbers in the poll at the top of the page.

 

[g5000]

Funny - fact shows it was your democrats who forced blacks to the back of the bus.

Funny - facts show those Democrats were far right wing conservatives. They are your political ancestors.

Funny - that part of the equation is always willfully censored out by the people pouring that piss you drink with so much gusto.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

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Work to repeal PA laws then. I'm sure you can get a majority to agree with you.

Democracy is a piss poor form of government when it allows the majority (usually only a plurality) to take away the rights of the minority. In this case a simple florist being able to decide who he wanted to do business with.

Quite often the majority will not do what is morally and intellectually the right thing to do because of greed, not to mention being misinformed or just plain stupid. We saw that in the election of Obama, didn't we?

Our Founding Fathers understood this very well by making this a Republic with a Bill of Rights. The only problem is that the Bill of Rights did not address individual protection against the abuse of the tyranny of government and the majority strongly enough. Even if it had then it would have been ignored by corrupt politicians like Obama who have redfined or ignored the Constitution.

Our system of government simply put is a failure at providing real freedom for the American citizens. That florist got a good dose of that, didn't he?

She, try to read the actual case under discussion. I know facts don't matter to you but try anyway.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Funny - fact shows it was your democrats who forced blacks to the back of the bus.

Funny - facts show those Democrats were right wing conservatives.

Funny - you rubes always leave that part out.

Which "facts"? When did these democrats become right wing conservatives?

 

[bodecea]

Here's a scenerio for you all to chew on.

Washington Business A sells flowers. Customer B comes in and orders flowers for a wedding that will take place at a Catholic church. Business owner A tells Customer B that they don't sell flowers nor flower arrangements to Catholics because of their personal belief system.

SO.....
1) Has Business A broken the law?

2) Does Customer A have the right to report them to the state if they have broken the law?

3) If the state finds that Business A has indeed broken the law, has the state the right to fine Business A based on the law?

4) Does Business A have the right to ignore the law and ignore the fine because they don't like it?

 

[Flash]

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Well that's tough shit. How bout that?

That sounds like the attitude the Nazis had with the Jews. "We are talking away your freedom and if you don't like it then tough shit".

Typical Libtard mindset.

Check you out! Comparing keeping a business from discriminating against fellow citizens because of their sexual orientation (which is totally legal) is JUST LIKE what the Nazis did to the Jews.

RWrs sure do suck at analogies.

It was legal for the government to abuse the Jews in Germany just like it is legal for the government to abuse the florist in this example. Both are government tyranny, just different degrees. The mindset is the same. Government control.