g5000
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Southern California has 1.8 billion square feet of warehouse space. I doubt Florida can match that.
Florida to Shipping Companies: Forget California, We’ll Unload Your Ships
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Manonthestreet
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Doesn't have too, and no such claim was made
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Where's he going to get the trucker's, employee's to unload. I'm sure in the part of Florida where they would be unloading the retired people will unload. 5% unemployment rate or just below as of today. Not a bad idea though.Extra 3-4 days sail time vs having your ships sit idle off the California coast for months.
Once again Democrats scare away major businesses.
“Florida is where your success comes in, and our seaports are the solution to ensure the cargo shipping logjam doesn’t become the Grinch that stole Christmas,” said Michael Rubin, President and CEO of the Florida Ports Council. “Why pay to moor off the coast of California, when Florida shipping lanes are open and serving as the gateway for getting goods to America’s market,” Rubin said in a press release.
Florida to shipping companies: Our ports are open
As California faces shipping logjams, Florida leaders say the Sunshine State is a better way to move goods to the East Coast or even the Midwest.www.wtvy.com
So leave the 1000 ft ships on the West coast, the rest can go elsewhere. Only the warehouses are making money if nothing is moving. Biden better do something or even the dumbest progs will turn on him.
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Saw a report on TV this morning about Savannah, GA port with 700 plus containers waiting on the doc for weeks and ships in gridlock waiting to get in to port of Savannah. Doubt if Florida will significantly ease the continental United States freight logistic problem. I can't see freighters moving from port to port to port, looking for service, trying to avoid the logjam.Extra 3-4 days sail time vs having your ships sit idle off the California coast for months.
Once again Democrats scare away major businesses.
“Florida is where your success comes in, and our seaports are the solution to ensure the cargo shipping logjam doesn’t become the Grinch that stole Christmas,” said Michael Rubin, President and CEO of the Florida Ports Council. “Why pay to moor off the coast of California, when Florida shipping lanes are open and serving as the gateway for getting goods to America’s market,” Rubin said in a press release.
Florida to shipping companies: Our ports are open
As California faces shipping logjams, Florida leaders say the Sunshine State is a better way to move goods to the East Coast or even the Midwest.
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Interesting. You think a private sector problem should be solved by the government.
You must be a liberal Democrat.
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Florida has the deep water ports to do it so I hope all those ships head our way.
Florida has the deep water ports to do it so I hope all those ships head our way.
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From Panama City: They can unload but the problem lies elsewhere.
“Once we have a ship in, we’re able to efficiently and effectively unload that vessel and have that cargo ready to go,” Panama City Port Authority Executive Director Alex King said.
We’re told they see almost two million tons of cargo come in and out of the port a year. But once cargo is unloaded, the problem lies elsewhere.
“We’re seeing a very congested in-land supply chain, both rail and truck, this delays getting shipments off the port,” said King.
Delays that can be attributed to local labor and equipment shortages.
Port Panama City sees shipment backlog
It could be weeks before dozens of supply ships anchored off the California coast can dock, but we're told the record breaking backlog on the west coast has not affected cargo ships coming into Port Panama City.
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The government is in the way. This is about Biden and Newsome's idiotic mandates and overall inept leadership.
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Some will go to Florida.
It's an added expense though.
Things stopped moving when the lockdown occurred. Nobody wanted the stuff. Now that the lockdown is over, things are starting to move. There's traffic jams just like you'd expect.
It's an added expense though.
Things stopped moving when the lockdown occurred. Nobody wanted the stuff. Now that the lockdown is over, things are starting to move. There's traffic jams just like you'd expect.
g5000
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How is the government in the way?
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I-40 (the largest moving warehouse in America) stays packed with trucks and I have not heard of railroad problems. I have no idea what the inland logistic hold up is really all about.From Panama City: They can unload but the problem lies elsewhere.
“Once we have a ship in, we’re able to efficiently and effectively unload that vessel and have that cargo ready to go,” Panama City Port Authority Executive Director Alex King said.
We’re told they see almost two million tons of cargo come in and out of the port a year. But once cargo is unloaded, the problem lies elsewhere.
“We’re seeing a very congested in-land supply chain, both rail and truck, this delays getting shipments off the port,” said King.
Delays that can be attributed to local labor and equipment shortages.
Port Panama City sees shipment backlog
It could be weeks before dozens of supply ships anchored off the California coast can dock, but we're told the record breaking backlog on the west coast has not affected cargo ships coming into Port Panama City.
And many of these aren't just big container ships from China, they are MEGA SIZE container ships.... Takes a deep port with mega machines.
HereWeGoAgain
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Extra 3-4 days sail time vs having your ships sit idle off the California coast for months.
Once again Democrats scare away major businesses.
“Florida is where your success comes in, and our seaports are the solution to ensure the cargo shipping logjam doesn’t become the Grinch that stole Christmas,” said Michael Rubin, President and CEO of the Florida Ports Council. “Why pay to moor off the coast of California, when Florida shipping lanes are open and serving as the gateway for getting goods to America’s market,” Rubin said in a press release.
Florida to shipping companies: Our ports are open
As California faces shipping logjams, Florida leaders say the Sunshine State is a better way to move goods to the East Coast or even the Midwest.
The Panamanians would love the extra income.
Hell they can come to Texas as well.
Officially Ranked the #1 Port
- Number 1 U.S. port in foreign waterborne tonnage
- Number 1 U.S. port in total foreign and domestic waterborne tonnage
- Number 3 U.S. port in terms of total foreign cargo value
- 6th ranked U.S. container port by total TEUs
- Largest Gulf Coast container port, handling 69% of U.S. Gulf Coast container traffic
- Largest Texas port with 96% market share in containers
- Largest Texas port with 40% of market share by tonnage
HereWeGoAgain
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They can just come to Texas.
We're #1 in foreign tonnage.
Officially Ranked the #1 Port
- Number 1 U.S. port in foreign waterborne tonnage
- Number 1 U.S. port in total foreign and domestic waterborne tonnage
- Number 3 U.S. port in terms of total foreign cargo value
- 6th ranked U.S. container port by total TEUs
- Largest Gulf Coast container port, handling 69% of U.S. Gulf Coast container traffic
- Largest Texas port with 96% market share in containers
- Largest Texas port with 40% of market share by tonnage
No worries,Texas can handle them with ease.
HereWeGoAgain
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Florida has plenty of space for cargo containers.
As in 14 million square feet.
Facilities
www.porteverglades.net
LordBrownTrout
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Maybe CA will shear off and float out to the sea.
There was an idea floating around some time ago about building a second canal. This was supposed to be Costa Rica. The Southern states would be come supreme with this as the West coast states are prog dominated. The potential for growth would be off the charts. We need big projects again that can be done and show results. Of course Costa Rica would have to be in on this and it would have to viable.
The east coast ports are backed up as well I believe...?
Miami might be able to easily take in some of the container ships going in to New York Metro ports but I dunno? Usually if the ships are pegged for a new York metro area, they are for delivery to customers in the north east....diverting shipping to Miami would cost more to deliver back up to the North east distributors and retail stores who ordered it.
Unless from China, most distributors or retailers try to get their goods delivered to a port nearest to their own distribution center.
China is a whole nuther ball game....the west coast is so much shorter of a trip to a port there, and then truck it across country, even with the fee on crossing over the Mississippi river that apply, than it is to spend on fuel for 3 to 4 more days running at sea, paying the Panama canal fees, and prayers that the Canal is not backed up, slowing delivery more....we took the "time is money" approach when I was working in the wholesale/retail industries.
So a cost to benefit analysis will be done.... With specifics on cost to idle vs cost to running the ships a thousand or 2 miles, including securing truckers in Miami, cost to truck it.....
I just see a lot of difficulty involved...
Those mega container ships have containers for all kinds of companies and distributors in both the east and west coast, with contracts with truckers to deliver are made well in advance, swapping delivery on them from one coast to another coast is just a humongous headache for all involved to find new truckers on another coast....
Anyway, all of that will be weighed, and depending on the bottom line, between days idling and days at sea cost, fees for changing delivery port, they may or may not, do it.
Miami might be able to easily take in some of the container ships going in to New York Metro ports but I dunno? Usually if the ships are pegged for a new York metro area, they are for delivery to customers in the north east....diverting shipping to Miami would cost more to deliver back up to the North east distributors and retail stores who ordered it.
Unless from China, most distributors or retailers try to get their goods delivered to a port nearest to their own distribution center.
China is a whole nuther ball game....the west coast is so much shorter of a trip to a port there, and then truck it across country, even with the fee on crossing over the Mississippi river that apply, than it is to spend on fuel for 3 to 4 more days running at sea, paying the Panama canal fees, and prayers that the Canal is not backed up, slowing delivery more....we took the "time is money" approach when I was working in the wholesale/retail industries.
So a cost to benefit analysis will be done.... With specifics on cost to idle vs cost to running the ships a thousand or 2 miles, including securing truckers in Miami, cost to truck it.....
I just see a lot of difficulty involved...
Those mega container ships have containers for all kinds of companies and distributors in both the east and west coast, with contracts with truckers to deliver are made well in advance, swapping delivery on them from one coast to another coast is just a humongous headache for all involved to find new truckers on another coast....
Anyway, all of that will be weighed, and depending on the bottom line, between days idling and days at sea cost, fees for changing delivery port, they may or may not, do it.
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