Florida Teacher of the Year's gun violence post goes viral after school shooting

[iamwhatiseem]

Thank God we banned drugs in America........otherwise people would still be dying of overdose....

 

[depotoo]

Cities here with strict gun control, have more murders daily than places without.

Yeah gun control clearly does not work and when normal people realize that they can try to figure how to help instead of the mindless blabber about more of what does not ever work.

Countries with strong gun control aren't constantly mourning the last mass shooting like us. Seems to work actually.

 

[depotoo]

And once again, is it helplessness people feel that every discussion immediately delves off into gun control, rather than face the real issues she mentions?

 

[OldLady]

And once again, is it helplessness people feel that every discussion immediately delves off into gun control, rather than face the real issues she mentions?

Ironically, the things she is pushing for are the things that each of us has the power to do ourselves in our own families, our own lives and our own communities. Maybe most of us have already done our best that way. If so, helping other families to do the same, to get past the obstacles that are derailing them, are something neighbors can do to help neighbors.
But this is a political board, so everyone wants a political enemy to blame, no matter what the topic.

 

[hazlnut]

Not the type of gun control progressives want, because they will not compromise on anything short of firearm confiscation

WOW!!


A straw man so stupid it eats its own straw shit.

You should charge money to see this freak of nature...

 

[Dogmaphobe]

But this is a political board, so everyone wants a political enemy to blame, no matter what the topic.

I hold the A.C.L.U. just as culpable as the N.R.A., myself.

 

[Rustic]

Not the type of gun control progressives want, because they will not compromise on anything short of firearm confiscation

WOW!!


A straw man so stupid it eats its own straw shit.

You should charge money to see this freak of nature...

You’re the one that wants to take legal firearms from law-abiding citizens...

 

[Rustic]

Thank God we banned drugs in America........otherwise people would still be dying of overdose....

Yep, and the anti-gun nutters that want absolute firearm confiscation, think that will work. Insanity is alive and well in socialism always has been… LOL

 

[Flash]

Yeah gun control clearly does not work and when normal people realize that they can try to figure how to help instead of the mindless blabber about more of what does not ever work.

Yep, and I would imagine that if teachers are asked if they agree with her thoughts, most would agree as to what has been happening.

She's spot on, except gun control is ALSO needed. Her solutions are important but they won't bear fruit overnight.

She was spot on because she knows that silly, oppressive and ineffective gun control laws will never stop a crime.

 

[depotoo]

Problem is, I see it every day. Parents wanting to be friends with their kids, feeling that will keep them in the loop, yet those kids are also hidden behind their phones, and are allowed all the privacy they want. Kids want boundaries, discipline, yet they aren’t given it. They may not recognize that as what they want, but they know they are missing something.

And once again, is it helplessness people feel that every discussion immediately delves off into gun control, rather than face the real issues she mentions?

Ironically, the things she is pushing for are the things that each of us has the power to do ourselves in our own families, our own lives and our own communities. Maybe most of us have already done our best that way. If so, helping other families to do the same, to get past the obstacles that are derailing them, are something neighbors can do to help neighbors.
But this is a political board, so everyone wants a political enemy to blame, no matter what the topic.

 

[miketx]

Yeah gun control clearly does not work and when normal people realize that they can try to figure how to help instead of the mindless blabber about more of what does not ever work.

Countries with strong gun control aren't constantly mourning the last mass shooting like us. Seems to work actually.

Yeah, it works great.

November 2015 Paris attacks - Wikipedia

Just to name one.

 

[Norman]

Isn't it much easier to just not even attempt to have any authority over your pupils, teach with the blindfolds on and go protest how your vacation just isn't long enough, instead of doing your job?

Or in a other words, just farm the children for coin.

If there were more people like this teacher in the industry, who wants to provide the children rather than their wallet with the best possible, perhaps I could take them more seriously.

 

[depotoo]

I have a question for you, I believe you were a teacher. What do you think of the mainstreaming of all kids that is required today? Has it increased problems exponentially for schools?
Reading through the wiki article about it, it appears it is making it almost impossible for schools today. It was really eye opening for me how far it goes. I understand and believe in the concept of it for those kids that can be mainstreamed without it causing a lot of difficulty, but for those that have severe problems it is just causing major disruptions. Should all kids be mainstreamed, no matter the degree of disability? Do you believe it also puts unrealistic expectations on some of this kids with trying to be so-called normal, as their peers are, and could create even further difficulties for them?
Individuals with Disabilities Education Act - Wikipedia

Add in the deliberate decision by school administrations to mainstream kids that have issues too serious for a teacher to deal with and it's a recipe for disaster.

If we treated our schools as places of learning instead of indoctrination centers and social experiments, we could begin to address the problem. A teacher in this country has to spend so much of their time dealing with the kids with obvious mental illnesses that they can hardly teach a thing to the others. The failures are bureaucratic, as the dogma of "inclusiveness" overrides any real concern for the children who are in school to learn.

You can't blame the administrators for that. It is federal law. The public schools get them all.

Fair enough.

Those who pushed for the laws are the same ones crying about gun control. Perhaps they should look in the mirror, instead.

You got any ideas, Dog?

 

[depotoo]

Mental health issues are huge and widely ignored. If it squeaks give it a pill. If it cries give it a pill. They fling so many pills at these kids without any consideration for pharmacogenetics. One size fits all. Sad.

Reading the wiki article on mainstreaming all kids is really eye opening as to what is expected of our schools today, IMO, and how it creates more problems for everyone, without truly helping the severely impaired. The expectations of these kids to sit and be normal in a class would add stress to everyone, when it isn’t possible for them to achieve such.

Why are the unions, as representatives of educators, not broaching this conversation?

 

[NYcarbineer]

The gun nuts love to rave about mental health issues, right up until mental health becomes cause for regulating one's access to guns,

and then they're right back to their extreme interpretation of the 2nd amendment.

 

[jknowgood]

Parents need to hear this from a Florida Teacher of the Year winner. It’s not the complete answer, but it is a large part-


Kelly Guthrie Raley

Kelly Guthrie Raley
February 15 at 8:25am · Eustis, FL ·
Okay, I’ll be the bad guy and say what no one else is brave enough to say, but wants to say. I’ll take all the criticism and attacks from everyone because you know what? I’m a TEACHER. I live this life daily. And I wouldn’t do anything else! But I also know daily I could end up in an active shooter situation.

Until we, as a country, are willing to get serious and talk about mental health issues, lack of available care for the mental health issues, lack of discipline in the home, horrendous lack of parental support when the schools are trying to control horrible behavior at school (oh no! Not MY KID. What did YOU do to cause my kid to react that way?), lack of moral values, and yes, I’ll say it-violent video games that take away all sensitivity to ANY compassion for others’ lives, as well as reality TV that makes it commonplace for people to constantly scream up in each others’ faces and not value any other person but themselves, we will have a gun problem in school. Our kids don’t understand the permanency of death anymore!!!

I grew up with guns. Everyone knows that. But you know what? My parents NEVER supported any bad behavior from me. I was terrified of doing something bad at school, as I would have not had a life until I corrected the problem and straightened my ass out. My parents invaded my life. They knew where I was ALL the time. They made me have a curfew. They made me wake them up when I got home. They made me respect their rules. They had full control of their house, and at any time could and would go through every inch of my bedroom, backpack, pockets, anything! Parents: it’s time to STEP UP! Be the parent that actually gives a crap! Be the annoying mom that pries and knows what your kid is doing. STOP being their friend. They have enough “friends” at school. Be their parent. Being the “cool mom” means not a damn thing when either your kid is dead or your kid kills other people because they were allowed to have their space and privacy in YOUR HOME. I’ll say it again. My home was filled with guns growing up. For God’s sake, my daddy was an 82nd Airborne Ranger who lost half his face serving our country. But you know what? I never dreamed of shooting anyone with his guns. I never dreamed of taking one! I was taught respect for human life, compassion, rules, common decency, and most of all, I was taught that until I moved out, my life and bedroom wasn’t mine...it was theirs. And they were going to know what was happening because they loved me and wanted the best for me.

There. Say that I’m a horrible person. I didn’t bring up gun control, and I will refuse to debate it with anyone. This post wasn’t about gun control. This was me, loving the crap out of people and wanting the best for them. This was about my school babies and knowing that God created each one for greatness, and just wanting them to reach their futures. It’s about 20 years ago this year I started my teaching career. Violence was not this bad 20 years ago. Lack of compassion wasn’t this bad 20 years ago. And God knows 20 years ago that I wasn’t afraid daily to call a parent because I KNEW that 9 out of 10 would cuss me out, tell me to go to Hell, call the news on me, call the school board on me, or post all over FaceBook about me because I called to let them know what their child chose to do at school...because they are a NORMAL kid!!!!!

Those 17 lives mattered. When are we going to take our own responsibility seriously?



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Florida Teacher of the Year's gun violence post goes viral after school shooting

Hmm, are you suggesting we be parents? Lol, that as stupid as when that politition guy said they should read bills before they pass them,lol. Something horrible happens and the answer is, “be a parent”. Na, ban guns. Not at home, but was her post on the news? Doubt it. Common sense rarely ever is a factor in these situations.

Well Hillary Clinton said it takes a village to raise a child. To bad the kid she wants to produce is one that does school shootings.

 

[OKTexas]

Add in the deliberate decision by school administrations to mainstream kids that have issues too serious for a teacher to deal with and it's a recipe for disaster.

If we treated our schools as places of learning instead of indoctrination centers and social experiments, we could begin to address the problem. A teacher in this country has to spend so much of their time dealing with the kids with obvious mental illnesses that they can hardly teach a thing to the others. The failures are bureaucratic, as the dogma of "inclusiveness" overrides any real concern for the children who are in school to learn.

You can't blame the administrators for that. It is federal law. The public schools get them all.

Fair enough.

Those who pushed for the laws are the same ones crying about gun control. Perhaps they should look in the mirror, instead.

You got any ideas, Dog?

Yeah, return discipline to the schools and home. This shit has been percolating since the late 60s to early 70s when kids started calling the police when their parents busted their ass for bad behavior and parents started suing the schools for doing the same. You can thank the lefties for the politics of unaccountability.


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[depotoo]

I agree. It has also correlated with mainstreaming all kids into school, as well.

Add in the deliberate decision by school administrations to mainstream kids that have issues too serious for a teacher to deal with and it's a recipe for disaster.

If we treated our schools as places of learning instead of indoctrination centers and social experiments, we could begin to address the problem. A teacher in this country has to spend so much of their time dealing with the kids with obvious mental illnesses that they can hardly teach a thing to the others. The failures are bureaucratic, as the dogma of "inclusiveness" overrides any real concern for the children who are in school to learn.

You can't blame the administrators for that. It is federal law. The public schools get them all.

Fair enough.

Those who pushed for the laws are the same ones crying about gun control. Perhaps they should look in the mirror, instead.

You got any ideas, Dog?

Yeah, return discipline to the schools and home. This shit has been percolating since the late 60s to early 70s when kids started calling the police when their parents busted their ass for bad behavior and parents started suing the schools for doing the same. You can thank the lefties for the politics of unaccountability.


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[Brain357]

Yeah gun control clearly does not work and when normal people realize that they can try to figure how to help instead of the mindless blabber about more of what does not ever work.

Countries with strong gun control aren't constantly mourning the last mass shooting like us. Seems to work actually.

You are assuming there are no other differences.

We didn't have these things happening when I was a child and we had LESS restrictive laws in those days.

Bet AR15's weren't common either. And we had 6 shot revolvers rather than high capacity semi autos.

 

[miketx]

Yeah gun control clearly does not work and when normal people realize that they can try to figure how to help instead of the mindless blabber about more of what does not ever work.

Countries with strong gun control aren't constantly mourning the last mass shooting like us. Seems to work actually.

You are assuming there are no other differences.

We didn't have these things happening when I was a child and we had LESS restrictive laws in those days.

Bet AR15's weren't common either. And we had 6 shot revolvers rather than high capacity semi autos.

Liar.