Florida AG calls for investigation into $16M Bloomberg donations to help felons vote

There is nothing in the law about requiring an agreement.
How can one buy a vote without an agreement?

You can’t.

This is just desperation on your part.

Why are you hung up on the agreement part? He pays their fines, expects them to vote a certain way, and they know it.

If that isn't corruptly influencing, I don't know what is.

But continue to harp on the agreement part. Again, explain how this isn't corruptly influencing the person's vote.
Because it’s not illegal unless there’s an agreement.

And no, you don’t know what is corruptly influencing.

Because Bloomberg is giving this money without requesting anything in return. He is not making it contingent on them voting for Biden. He’s not even making it contingent on them voting at all. Therefore, it cannot be considered corrupt influence if it is given with nothing asked in return.

There is zero evidence of corruption. Just a lot of evidence or butt hurt Trump supporters.

There is nothing in the law about an agreement, so you can stop beating that dead horse.

He is paying for them to be able to vote, and he is supporting a certain candidate.

Everything else is you making bullshit excuses because it helps the candidate you support.

By any means necessary, right you SJW twat?

It says you can’t buy votes. Cant buy something without an agreement, dumb ass.

Sorry that basic English proficiency evades you. This is merely desperation. You must be really panicked.

You are creating stipulations that are not part of the law. He is influencing their vote by paying their fines, which prevent them from voting. he supports a specific candidate in an upcoming election is paying them to be able to vote in.

All because you have such a hard on to get Trump out of office that you will condone illegal actions to achieve that goal, but lack the actual balls to revolt, which is what you should be doing if you truly believe Trump is that great of a threat.
You’re so desperate to protect Trump, you’re inventing crimes in the opposition like a corrupt little dictator. Yet again, you’re intent on turning us into a shithole like Russia.

It’s not corrupt influence. Corrupt influence would require coercion. There is none here.

It's a law on the books. He's giving money to people so they can vote, up to $1500, and you really think he doesn't expect them to vote the way he wants them to?

Where the fuck does it say corrupt influence requires coercion? Why do you keep making shit up to defend illegal behavior?

Oh yes, because you are a gutless hack who will justify anything as long as it gets Trump defeated.

You are slime, you are worthless, and the world will be a far better place when you are 6 feet under it.
Bloomberg can expect anything he wants. That’s not illegal unless he exerts some corrupt influence on them, which he’s not.

The fact he is paying their fines, up to $1500 and is doing so so they can vote, and we know who he wants them to vote for, is all the corrupting influence you need.
Nope. That’s not corrupt influence given no one is pressured to vote for anyone or to even vote at all.

Where does influence require pressure?

And there is pressure, he paid for them to vote, you don't think they know they should vote the way the guy that paid for them to do it wants them to?

They may need him to pay off their debts again.

What happens if they don’t vote?

Why pay for them to get their voting rights back if they don't vote?

What is Bloomberg's motive for paying their fines? He is the one who would be liable.
What happens if they don’t vote?

Why would they be taking the $$ to pay off their restitution if they didn't want to vote?

Again, what is Bloomberg's reason for paying their fines?

I want you to say it.
Coward. Can’t even answer a simple question because you know the answer blows up your phony accusation.

I answered it, you just don't like the answer.

But I will spell it out for you, even if one person votes after their fines are paid off, then Bloomberg may be liable under the law. So you are saying none of these guys will vote after having their fines paid which was the one thing stopping them from voting? And they won't notice it was Bloomberg paying off their fines, and Bloomberg supports Biden?
You never answered. What happens if one of the felons doesn’t vote?

The answer that you’re afraid to admit is: nothing.

Why does there have to be a consequence? Influence is what is in the law, and by paying their fines and allowing them to vote his is influencing them to vote for the candidate he supports.

The issue is with Bloomberg breaking the law by buying their votes, which he is doing.
 
The law prohibits corrupting influence on someone's vote. Paying off their debt is a corrupting influence in this case because the people know who paid it, and who the person paying it supports in this election.

Except there's no "Vote for Biden" message here. He's just paying off their debt. They could well vote for Trump, for all he knows.
 
Why does there have to be a consequence? Influence is what is in the law, and by paying their fines and allowing them to vote his is influencing them to vote for the candidate he supports.

The issue is with Bloomberg breaking the law by buying their votes, which he is doing.

By your logic, if I drive my elderly neighbor to a polling place, then I am breaking the law by buying her vote.

True, I didn't tell her how to vote, I just drove her to the polling place.
 
There is nothing in the law about requiring an agreement.
How can one buy a vote without an agreement?

You can’t.

This is just desperation on your part.

Why are you hung up on the agreement part? He pays their fines, expects them to vote a certain way, and they know it.

If that isn't corruptly influencing, I don't know what is.

But continue to harp on the agreement part. Again, explain how this isn't corruptly influencing the person's vote.
Because it’s not illegal unless there’s an agreement.

And no, you don’t know what is corruptly influencing.

Because Bloomberg is giving this money without requesting anything in return. He is not making it contingent on them voting for Biden. He’s not even making it contingent on them voting at all. Therefore, it cannot be considered corrupt influence if it is given with nothing asked in return.

There is zero evidence of corruption. Just a lot of evidence or butt hurt Trump supporters.

There is nothing in the law about an agreement, so you can stop beating that dead horse.

He is paying for them to be able to vote, and he is supporting a certain candidate.

Everything else is you making bullshit excuses because it helps the candidate you support.

By any means necessary, right you SJW twat?

It says you can’t buy votes. Cant buy something without an agreement, dumb ass.

Sorry that basic English proficiency evades you. This is merely desperation. You must be really panicked.

You are creating stipulations that are not part of the law. He is influencing their vote by paying their fines, which prevent them from voting. he supports a specific candidate in an upcoming election is paying them to be able to vote in.

All because you have such a hard on to get Trump out of office that you will condone illegal actions to achieve that goal, but lack the actual balls to revolt, which is what you should be doing if you truly believe Trump is that great of a threat.
You’re so desperate to protect Trump, you’re inventing crimes in the opposition like a corrupt little dictator. Yet again, you’re intent on turning us into a shithole like Russia.

It’s not corrupt influence. Corrupt influence would require coercion. There is none here.

It's a law on the books. He's giving money to people so they can vote, up to $1500, and you really think he doesn't expect them to vote the way he wants them to?

Where the fuck does it say corrupt influence requires coercion? Why do you keep making shit up to defend illegal behavior?

Oh yes, because you are a gutless hack who will justify anything as long as it gets Trump defeated.

You are slime, you are worthless, and the world will be a far better place when you are 6 feet under it.
Bloomberg can expect anything he wants. That’s not illegal unless he exerts some corrupt influence on them, which he’s not.

The fact he is paying their fines, up to $1500 and is doing so so they can vote, and we know who he wants them to vote for, is all the corrupting influence you need.
Nope. That’s not corrupt influence given no one is pressured to vote for anyone or to even vote at all.

Where does influence require pressure?

And there is pressure, he paid for them to vote, you don't think they know they should vote the way the guy that paid for them to do it wants them to?

They may need him to pay off their debts again.

What happens if they don’t vote?

Why pay for them to get their voting rights back if they don't vote?

What is Bloomberg's motive for paying their fines? He is the one who would be liable.
What happens if they don’t vote?

Why would they be taking the $$ to pay off their restitution if they didn't want to vote?

Again, what is Bloomberg's reason for paying their fines?

I want you to say it.
Coward. Can’t even answer a simple question because you know the answer blows up your phony accusation.

I answered it, you just don't like the answer.

But I will spell it out for you, even if one person votes after their fines are paid off, then Bloomberg may be liable under the law. So you are saying none of these guys will vote after having their fines paid which was the one thing stopping them from voting? And they won't notice it was Bloomberg paying off their fines, and Bloomberg supports Biden?
You never answered. What happens if one of the felons doesn’t vote?

The answer that you’re afraid to admit is: nothing.

Why does there have to be a consequence? Influence is what is in the law, and by paying their fines and allowing them to vote his is influencing them to vote for the candidate he supports.

The issue is with Bloomberg breaking the law by buying their votes, which he is doing.
Because that’s what constitutes a quid pro quo.

He’s not buying votes since the individuals are getting their fines paid whether they vote or not. When one buys something, they agree to exchange money for some good. Since there is no agreement and no requirement for the good in exchange for the money, it cannot constitute buying.
 
The law prohibits corrupting influence on someone's vote. Paying off their debt is a corrupting influence in this case because the people know who paid it, and who the person paying it supports in this election.

Except there's no "Vote for Biden" message here. He's just paying off their debt. They could well vote for Trump, for all he knows.

They could also sprout antlers and fart unicorn dust.
 
Why does there have to be a consequence? Influence is what is in the law, and by paying their fines and allowing them to vote his is influencing them to vote for the candidate he supports.

The issue is with Bloomberg breaking the law by buying their votes, which he is doing.

By your logic, if I drive my elderly neighbor to a polling place, then I am breaking the law by buying her vote.

True, I didn't tell her how to vote, I just drove her to the polling place.

There is a difference between driving someone, net value of probably less than $10 and paying up to $1500 to clear a person's debt.
 
There is nothing in the law about requiring an agreement.
How can one buy a vote without an agreement?

You can’t.

This is just desperation on your part.

Why are you hung up on the agreement part? He pays their fines, expects them to vote a certain way, and they know it.

If that isn't corruptly influencing, I don't know what is.

But continue to harp on the agreement part. Again, explain how this isn't corruptly influencing the person's vote.
Because it’s not illegal unless there’s an agreement.

And no, you don’t know what is corruptly influencing.

Because Bloomberg is giving this money without requesting anything in return. He is not making it contingent on them voting for Biden. He’s not even making it contingent on them voting at all. Therefore, it cannot be considered corrupt influence if it is given with nothing asked in return.

There is zero evidence of corruption. Just a lot of evidence or butt hurt Trump supporters.

There is nothing in the law about an agreement, so you can stop beating that dead horse.

He is paying for them to be able to vote, and he is supporting a certain candidate.

Everything else is you making bullshit excuses because it helps the candidate you support.

By any means necessary, right you SJW twat?

It says you can’t buy votes. Cant buy something without an agreement, dumb ass.

Sorry that basic English proficiency evades you. This is merely desperation. You must be really panicked.

You are creating stipulations that are not part of the law. He is influencing their vote by paying their fines, which prevent them from voting. he supports a specific candidate in an upcoming election is paying them to be able to vote in.

All because you have such a hard on to get Trump out of office that you will condone illegal actions to achieve that goal, but lack the actual balls to revolt, which is what you should be doing if you truly believe Trump is that great of a threat.
You’re so desperate to protect Trump, you’re inventing crimes in the opposition like a corrupt little dictator. Yet again, you’re intent on turning us into a shithole like Russia.

It’s not corrupt influence. Corrupt influence would require coercion. There is none here.

It's a law on the books. He's giving money to people so they can vote, up to $1500, and you really think he doesn't expect them to vote the way he wants them to?

Where the fuck does it say corrupt influence requires coercion? Why do you keep making shit up to defend illegal behavior?

Oh yes, because you are a gutless hack who will justify anything as long as it gets Trump defeated.

You are slime, you are worthless, and the world will be a far better place when you are 6 feet under it.
Bloomberg can expect anything he wants. That’s not illegal unless he exerts some corrupt influence on them, which he’s not.

The fact he is paying their fines, up to $1500 and is doing so so they can vote, and we know who he wants them to vote for, is all the corrupting influence you need.
Nope. That’s not corrupt influence given no one is pressured to vote for anyone or to even vote at all.

Where does influence require pressure?

And there is pressure, he paid for them to vote, you don't think they know they should vote the way the guy that paid for them to do it wants them to?

They may need him to pay off their debts again.

What happens if they don’t vote?

Why pay for them to get their voting rights back if they don't vote?

What is Bloomberg's motive for paying their fines? He is the one who would be liable.
What happens if they don’t vote?

Why would they be taking the $$ to pay off their restitution if they didn't want to vote?

Again, what is Bloomberg's reason for paying their fines?

I want you to say it.
Coward. Can’t even answer a simple question because you know the answer blows up your phony accusation.

I answered it, you just don't like the answer.

But I will spell it out for you, even if one person votes after their fines are paid off, then Bloomberg may be liable under the law. So you are saying none of these guys will vote after having their fines paid which was the one thing stopping them from voting? And they won't notice it was Bloomberg paying off their fines, and Bloomberg supports Biden?
You never answered. What happens if one of the felons doesn’t vote?

The answer that you’re afraid to admit is: nothing.

Why does there have to be a consequence? Influence is what is in the law, and by paying their fines and allowing them to vote his is influencing them to vote for the candidate he supports.

The issue is with Bloomberg breaking the law by buying their votes, which he is doing.
Because that’s what constitutes a quid pro quo.

He’s not buying votes since the individuals are getting their fines paid whether they vote or not. When one buys something, they agree to exchange money for some good. Since there is no agreement and no requirement for the good in exchange for the money, it cannot constitute buying.

They are getting their fines paid so they CAN vote, and they know who is paying the fines for them, and they know who said person supports.
 
They could also sprout antlers and fart unicorn dust.

They could. Frankly, it would make about as much sense for anyone voting for Trump.

They are getting their fines paid so they CAN vote, and they know who is paying the fines for them, and they know who said person supports.

None of which compels them to vote for that person.

The reality is, the REpublicans are the ones who don't want ex-felons to vote because they know they will vote Democratic. It's just another form of voter suppression.
 
They could also sprout antlers and fart unicorn dust.

They could. Frankly, it would make about as much sense for anyone voting for Trump.

They are getting their fines paid so they CAN vote, and they know who is paying the fines for them, and they know who said person supports.

None of which compels them to vote for that person.

The reality is, the REpublicans are the ones who don't want ex-felons to vote because they know they will vote Democratic. It's just another form of voter suppression.

Bullshit.

And the only reason Bloomie is paying their fines and restitution is because he knows they will vote democrat, and he's paying for it.
 
Bullshit.

And the only reason Bloomie is paying their fines and restitution is because he knows they will vote democrat, and he's paying for it.

And because it's the right thing to do, but I don't think you understand that concept.

You know, if you guys spent half the time finding ways to win over poor people of color that you do trying to cheat them out of their vote, you might even make some progress. Some might even mistake you for human. Just saying.
 
Bullshit.

And the only reason Bloomie is paying their fines and restitution is because he knows they will vote democrat, and he's paying for it.

And because it's the right thing to do, but I don't think you understand that concept.

You know, if you guys spent half the time finding ways to win over poor people of color that you do trying to cheat them out of their vote, you might even make some progress. Some might even mistake you for human. Just saying.

How is denying felons the vote until the give full restitution cheating them out of voting?
 
How is denying felons the vote until the give full restitution cheating them out of voting?

Because that wasn't the intent of the voters in Florida when they voted out this old Jim Crow law that was designed to keep blacks from voting.

The law includes restitution as a valid requirement.

Felons should not be able to vote when serving their sentence, including parole and restitution.
 
The law includes restitution as a valid requirement.

Felons should not be able to vote when serving their sentence, including parole and restitution.

Actually, you got it in reverse. The referendum called for a free and clear restoration of voting rights.

The Legislature added the additional requirement.

The people made their intent clear. Bloomie is only carrying out the intent of the people.
 
They could also sprout antlers and fart unicorn dust.

They could. Frankly, it would make about as much sense for anyone voting for Trump.

They are getting their fines paid so they CAN vote, and they know who is paying the fines for them, and they know who said person supports.

None of which compels them to vote for that person.

The reality is, the REpublicans are the ones who don't want ex-felons to vote because they know they will vote Democratic. It's just another form of voter suppression.

Bullshit.

And the only reason Bloomie is paying their fines and restitution is because he knows they will vote democrat, and he's paying for it.
How does Bloomberg know who they will vote for?
 
The law includes restitution as a valid requirement.

Felons should not be able to vote when serving their sentence, including parole and restitution.

Actually, you got it in reverse. The referendum called for a free and clear restoration of voting rights.

The Legislature added the additional requirement.

The people made their intent clear. Bloomie is only carrying out the intent of the people.

The legislature represents the people.
 
They could also sprout antlers and fart unicorn dust.

They could. Frankly, it would make about as much sense for anyone voting for Trump.

They are getting their fines paid so they CAN vote, and they know who is paying the fines for them, and they know who said person supports.

None of which compels them to vote for that person.

The reality is, the REpublicans are the ones who don't want ex-felons to vote because they know they will vote Democratic. It's just another form of voter suppression.

Bullshit.

And the only reason Bloomie is paying their fines and restitution is because he knows they will vote democrat, and he's paying for it.
How does Bloomberg know who they will vote for?

Then why buy their voting rights back?
 
They could also sprout antlers and fart unicorn dust.

They could. Frankly, it would make about as much sense for anyone voting for Trump.

They are getting their fines paid so they CAN vote, and they know who is paying the fines for them, and they know who said person supports.

None of which compels them to vote for that person.

The reality is, the REpublicans are the ones who don't want ex-felons to vote because they know they will vote Democratic. It's just another form of voter suppression.

Bullshit.

And the only reason Bloomie is paying their fines and restitution is because he knows they will vote democrat, and he's paying for it.
How does Bloomberg know who they will vote for?

Then why buy their voting rights back?
Refusing to answer the question again.

Such a snowflake.
 
They could also sprout antlers and fart unicorn dust.

They could. Frankly, it would make about as much sense for anyone voting for Trump.

They are getting their fines paid so they CAN vote, and they know who is paying the fines for them, and they know who said person supports.

None of which compels them to vote for that person.

The reality is, the REpublicans are the ones who don't want ex-felons to vote because they know they will vote Democratic. It's just another form of voter suppression.

Bullshit.

And the only reason Bloomie is paying their fines and restitution is because he knows they will vote democrat, and he's paying for it.
How does Bloomberg know who they will vote for?

Then why buy their voting rights back?
Refusing to answer the question again.

Such a snowflake.

He knows how most of them will vote, that's why he's buying their vote.

And again you use the term snowflake wrong, twat.
 
They could also sprout antlers and fart unicorn dust.

They could. Frankly, it would make about as much sense for anyone voting for Trump.

They are getting their fines paid so they CAN vote, and they know who is paying the fines for them, and they know who said person supports.

None of which compels them to vote for that person.

The reality is, the REpublicans are the ones who don't want ex-felons to vote because they know they will vote Democratic. It's just another form of voter suppression.

Bullshit.

And the only reason Bloomie is paying their fines and restitution is because he knows they will vote democrat, and he's paying for it.
How does Bloomberg know who they will vote for?

Then why buy their voting rights back?
Refusing to answer the question again.

Such a snowflake.

He knows how most of them will vote, that's why he's buying their vote.

And again you use the term snowflake wrong, twat.
How does he know how they will vote?

A snowflake refuses to answer questions because they’re too scared of the implications of the answers.
 

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