Flashback: In 2007 Speech, Obama Credited 1965 Selma March For Inspiring His Birth--------- In 1961

We have proof he has a Connecticut social security number when he never lived there nor had family members live there.

Nope.

snopes.com Obama Stole His Social Security Number from Jean Paul Ludwig

We have this uncovered and presented by the Maricopa County Sheriffs Office:


Show us the official report from Maricopa County Sheriff's Department. There is none. Maricopa county won't officially get behind anything in that video. Mike Zullo will, however.

And Mike has been taking bribes from birthers as part of his 'investigation'.

fter two years of denying he personally profited from the Maricopa County Sheriff's Office investigation into the validity of President Barack Obama's birth certificate, the head of the sheriff's Cold Case Posse admitted to CBS 5 Investigates that he accepted a large monetary gift from one of the sources in the investigation.

Read more: Birther posse chief I accepted 10 000 from source - WFSB 3 Connecticut

Mike was asked about the check and adamant that it never happened:
"My answer to this question is emphatically No! These accusations that you claim you have heard are absolutely unfounded, slanderous and completely fabricated. They are designed to cast me and this organization in a disparaging light. I am appalled at this accusation!"

Read more: Birther posse chief I accepted 10 000 from source - WFSB 3 Connecticut

But when presented with evidence that prove Zullo a hapless liar, Zullo's story suddenly changes:

One day later, after faced with evidence provided by CBS 5 Investigates, Zullo sent another email.

"In 2012 a FedEx envelope arrives unexpectedly at my door, just out of nowhere. When I opened it there is a check for $10,000 made out to me personally from Bill," wrote Zullo. He was referring to Bill Wolf, who was a major researcher in the birther movement.

Wolf had supplied the Cold Case Posse with a dossier of information about alleged problems with the President's birth certificate. The dossier became a major source of information for Zullo's investigation.

Read more: Birther posse chief I accepted 10 000 from source - WFSB 3 Connecticut

So apparently, in the Cold Case Posse, the only thing you need to do for an investigation to say what you want it to say.....is to bribe the lead investigator. And this is your source?

Sigh....no wonder Birthers are a national laughing stock.

His Connecticut Social Security number is irrelevant to Ludwig and Snopes is not credible in the first place. As for Zullo, he broke no laws and it was perfectly legal to accept money from anyone who was interested in this cause and it is nobody's business. The gift has no bearing on Obama's forged documents.
 
Good old dependable Steve-o. You can always depend on him to come up with some crazy tinfoil hat quality stuff. Too bad it's never fresh. Always the same old thing. I like the way he does his funny little teabagger dance though.

So you know then, for instance that obama's draft form was accepted by the post office in 1980 and that the one showed in the video is false?

Save that the Selected Service already confirmed that its accurate. Same number, same date, same name, everything.

Just destroying your latest piece of batshit, my little relativist.

Just as one presumes that you KNOW that obama was a citizen of Connecticut when he received his SS card... and post the evidence on which THAT affirmation rests.

Snopes already took that piece of birther batshit apart.

snopes.com Obama Stole His Social Security Number from Jean Paul Ludwig

Try again.

Of course, even if ya did ALL of that, which is obviously impossible... because we KNOW that obama's draft form is fraudulent, because the type of stamp used is standardized and they are DESIGNED WITH A FOUR DIGIT YEAR and obama's has a two digit year, based upon the evidence which establishes it as such. And bears ALL of the signs of just a TERRIBLE forgery. Clearly the same person or same type of low-skill individual who did the bang up job of forging his birth-certs.

Save you don't 'know' any of that. Nor can you prove any of it. You simply typed it. While Selected Service contradicted you.

Why would I ignore selected service and instead believe you, citing yourself? I can't think of a single reason.

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AND... most importantly he was born to a Foreign National, thus given the Constitutional requirement that he be a Natural Born Citizen, we KNOW his Presidency is Illegitimate, because a person born to a Foreign National is NOT a natural born citizen of the United States, because his citizenship is not a function of natural consequences of birth, it is a function of US Law.

The obvious problem with your narrative being that you natural born status follows place of birth. By the standards laid out in Wong Kim Ark, which cited British Common Law as lens through which one understands natural born status.

Wong Kim Ark v. US said:
The fundamental principle of the common law with regard to English nationality was birth within the allegiance, also called "ligealty," "obedience," "faith," or "power" of the King. The principle embraced all persons born within the King's allegiance and subject to his protection. Such allegiance and protection were mutual -- as expressed in the maxim protectio trahit subjectionem, et subjectio protectionem -- and were not restricted to natural-born subjects and naturalized subjects, or to those who had taken an oath of allegiance, but were predicable of aliens in amity so long as they were within the kingdom. Children, born in England, of such aliens were therefore natural-born subjects. But the children, born within the realm, of foreign ambassadors, or the children of alien enemies, born during and within their hostile occupation of part of the King's dominions, were not natural-born subjects because not born within the allegiance, the obedience, or the power, or, as would be said at this day, within the jurisdiction, of the King.

Natural born status follows PLACE of birth. The USSC contradicts you. So you ignore the USSC, insisting that only the dictionary can tell us what 'natural born' means. Well, lets check the dictionary:



And when you follow native born, you get this:

Native born:
adjective:

1. born in the place or country indicated:
a native-born Australian.

Native-born Define Native-born at Dictionary.com

Destroying your silly little piece of relativist tin foil batshitery by your standards and mine.

Is there any claim I can't run you of off, birther?
Your post is nothing but a huge lie. You don't know what you are talking about.
 
We have proof he has a Connecticut social security number when he never lived there nor had family members live there.

Nope.

snopes.com Obama Stole His Social Security Number from Jean Paul Ludwig

We have this uncovered and presented by the Maricopa County Sheriffs Office:


Show us the official report from Maricopa County Sheriff's Department. There is none. Maricopa county won't officially get behind anything in that video. Mike Zullo will, however.

And Mike has been taking bribes from birthers as part of his 'investigation'.

fter two years of denying he personally profited from the Maricopa County Sheriff's Office investigation into the validity of President Barack Obama's birth certificate, the head of the sheriff's Cold Case Posse admitted to CBS 5 Investigates that he accepted a large monetary gift from one of the sources in the investigation.

Read more: Birther posse chief I accepted 10 000 from source - WFSB 3 Connecticut

Mike was asked about the check and adamant that it never happened:
"My answer to this question is emphatically No! These accusations that you claim you have heard are absolutely unfounded, slanderous and completely fabricated. They are designed to cast me and this organization in a disparaging light. I am appalled at this accusation!"

Read more: Birther posse chief I accepted 10 000 from source - WFSB 3 Connecticut

But when presented with evidence that prove Zullo a hapless liar, Zullo's story suddenly changes:

One day later, after faced with evidence provided by CBS 5 Investigates, Zullo sent another email.

"In 2012 a FedEx envelope arrives unexpectedly at my door, just out of nowhere. When I opened it there is a check for $10,000 made out to me personally from Bill," wrote Zullo. He was referring to Bill Wolf, who was a major researcher in the birther movement.

Wolf had supplied the Cold Case Posse with a dossier of information about alleged problems with the President's birth certificate. The dossier became a major source of information for Zullo's investigation.

Read more: Birther posse chief I accepted 10 000 from source - WFSB 3 Connecticut

So apparently, in the Cold Case Posse, the only thing you need to do for an investigation to say what you want it to say.....is to bribe the lead investigator. And this is your source?

Sigh....no wonder Birthers are a national laughing stock.

His Connecticut Social Security number is irrelevant to Ludwig and Snopes is not credible in the first place.


Snopes is a hell of a lot more credible than you are, Steven. And they simply destroy your silly conspiracy.

Sigh...again.

As for Zullo, he broke no laws and it was perfectly legal to accept money from anyone who was interested in this cause and it is nobody's business. The gift has no bearing on Obama's forged documents.

The only reason Zullo isn't in prison right now he isn't an officer of the law nor is he leading an official investigation. The 'Cold Case Posse' is a private non-profit.

If Zullo were a cop, he'd already be head down, ass up in a prison cell.....as a cop taking bribes as part of a police investigation is flagrantly, wildly criminal and corrupt.

Zullo knows exactly how corrupt it is to take bribes during an investigation. Which is why he lied about it for years. This is Zullo's answer BEFORE the press handed him his ass with damning evidence.

"My answer to this question is emphatically No! These accusations that you claim you have heard are absolutely unfounded, slanderous and completely fabricated. They are designed to cast me and this organization in a disparaging light. I am appalled at this accusation!"

Read more: Birther posse chief I accepted 10 000 from source - WFSB 3 Connecticut

And this is Zullo's story one day later, AFTER the press handed him his ass with damning evidence.

One day later, after faced with evidence provided by CBS 5 Investigates, Zullo sent another email.

"In 2012 a FedEx envelope arrives unexpectedly at my door, just out of nowhere. When I opened it there is a check for $10,000 made out to me personally from Bill," wrote Zullo. He was referring to Bill Wolf, who was a major researcher in the birther movement.

Wolf had supplied the Cold Case Posse with a dossier of information about alleged problems with the President's birth certificate. The dossier became a major source of information for Zullo's investigation.

Read more: Birther posse chief I accepted 10 000 from source - WFSB 3 Connecticut

Zullo is a corrupt, lying piece of shit taking secret bribes from Birthers to say what Birthers want him to say. And this is your source?
 
Good old dependable Steve-o. You can always depend on him to come up with some crazy tinfoil hat quality stuff. Too bad it's never fresh. Always the same old thing. I like the way he does his funny little teabagger dance though.

So you know then, for instance that obama's draft form was accepted by the post office in 1980 and that the one showed in the video is false?

Save that the Selected Service already confirmed that its accurate. Same number, same date, same name, everything.

Just destroying your latest piece of batshit, my little relativist.

Just as one presumes that you KNOW that obama was a citizen of Connecticut when he received his SS card... and post the evidence on which THAT affirmation rests.

Snopes already took that piece of birther batshit apart.

snopes.com Obama Stole His Social Security Number from Jean Paul Ludwig

Try again.

Of course, even if ya did ALL of that, which is obviously impossible... because we KNOW that obama's draft form is fraudulent, because the type of stamp used is standardized and they are DESIGNED WITH A FOUR DIGIT YEAR and obama's has a two digit year, based upon the evidence which establishes it as such. And bears ALL of the signs of just a TERRIBLE forgery. Clearly the same person or same type of low-skill individual who did the bang up job of forging his birth-certs.

Save you don't 'know' any of that. Nor can you prove any of it. You simply typed it. While Selected Service contradicted you.

Why would I ignore selected service and instead believe you, citing yourself? I can't think of a single reason.

\
AND... most importantly he was born to a Foreign National, thus given the Constitutional requirement that he be a Natural Born Citizen, we KNOW his Presidency is Illegitimate, because a person born to a Foreign National is NOT a natural born citizen of the United States, because his citizenship is not a function of natural consequences of birth, it is a function of US Law.

The obvious problem with your narrative being that you natural born status follows place of birth. By the standards laid out in Wong Kim Ark, which cited British Common Law as lens through which one understands natural born status.

Wong Kim Ark v. US said:
The fundamental principle of the common law with regard to English nationality was birth within the allegiance, also called "ligealty," "obedience," "faith," or "power" of the King. The principle embraced all persons born within the King's allegiance and subject to his protection. Such allegiance and protection were mutual -- as expressed in the maxim protectio trahit subjectionem, et subjectio protectionem -- and were not restricted to natural-born subjects and naturalized subjects, or to those who had taken an oath of allegiance, but were predicable of aliens in amity so long as they were within the kingdom. Children, born in England, of such aliens were therefore natural-born subjects. But the children, born within the realm, of foreign ambassadors, or the children of alien enemies, born during and within their hostile occupation of part of the King's dominions, were not natural-born subjects because not born within the allegiance, the obedience, or the power, or, as would be said at this day, within the jurisdiction, of the King.

Natural born status follows PLACE of birth. The USSC contradicts you. So you ignore the USSC, insisting that only the dictionary can tell us what 'natural born' means. Well, lets check the dictionary:



And when you follow native born, you get this:

Native born:
adjective:

1. born in the place or country indicated:
a native-born Australian.

Native-born Define Native-born at Dictionary.com

Destroying your silly little piece of relativist tin foil batshitery by your standards and mine.

Is there any claim I can't run you of off, birther?
Your post is nothing but a huge lie. You don't know what you are talking about.

Then refute me. Is my quote of Wong Kim Ark inaccurate? Of course not. Is my citation of the dictionary inaccurate? Of course not.

Both just destroy your silly little birther batshit. So you ignore them both. As anything that doesn't ape your conspiracy....becomes part of it.
 
Flashback: In 2007 Speech, Obama Credited 1965 Selma March For Inspiring His Birth--------- In 1961

Yep, that is true.

Say What, Barack?

Aha. No wonder they didn't want to quote it.

"... something happened back here in Selma, Alabama. Something happened in Birmingham that sent out what Bobby Kennedy called, "ripples of hope all around the world." Something happened when a bunch of women decided they were going to walk instead of ride the bus after a long day of doing somebody else's laundry, looking after somebody else's children.

"When (black) men who had PhD's decided 'that's enough' and 'we're going to stand up for our dignity,' that sent a shout across oceans so that my grandfather began to imagine something different for his son. His son, who grew up herding goats in a small village in Africa could suddenly set his sights a little higher and believe that maybe a black man in this world had a chance. "So the Kennedy's decided we're going to do an air lift. We're going to go to Africa and start bringing young Africans over to this country and give them scholarships to study so they can learn what a wonderful country America is.

"This young man named Barack Obama got one of those tickets and came over to this country. He met this woman whose great great-great-great-grandfather had owned slaves; but she had a good idea there was some craziness going on because they looked at each other and they decided that we know that, (in) the world as it has been, it might not be possible for us to get together and have a child. There was something stirring across the country because of what happened in Selma, Alabama, because some folks are willing to march across a bridge. So they got together and Barack Obama Jr. was born. <<
That reference to a bunch of women who "decided they were going to walk instead of ride the bus" is a clear reference to the Montgomery bus boycott -- which happened in 1955-56. Taking that, Birmingham, Selma together in context reveals he speaks of the entire civil rights 'movement' and the cultural change that sprang from it and that is what leads up to "so they got together". Not a demonstration in 1965 all by itself.

Keep telling yourself that. Libtards love to conjure all kinds of excuses.

The benefits of knowing how the fuck to read.

It's uh, right there in the text, dood. Want to prove it isn't? Be my jest.
Why would you bring up Montgomery 1955 if what you're talking about is Selma 1965?

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And why did you not want to post the context in the first place? Inconvenient?
 
We have proof he has a Connecticut social security number when he never lived there nor had family members live there.

Nope.

snopes.com Obama Stole His Social Security Number from Jean Paul Ludwig

We have this uncovered and presented by the Maricopa County Sheriffs Office:


Show us the official report from Maricopa County Sheriff's Department. There is none. Maricopa county won't officially get behind anything in that video. Mike Zullo will, however.

And Mike has been taking bribes from birthers as part of his 'investigation'.

fter two years of denying he personally profited from the Maricopa County Sheriff's Office investigation into the validity of President Barack Obama's birth certificate, the head of the sheriff's Cold Case Posse admitted to CBS 5 Investigates that he accepted a large monetary gift from one of the sources in the investigation.

Read more: Birther posse chief I accepted 10 000 from source - WFSB 3 Connecticut

Mike was asked about the check and adamant that it never happened:
"My answer to this question is emphatically No! These accusations that you claim you have heard are absolutely unfounded, slanderous and completely fabricated. They are designed to cast me and this organization in a disparaging light. I am appalled at this accusation!"

Read more: Birther posse chief I accepted 10 000 from source - WFSB 3 Connecticut

But when presented with evidence that prove Zullo a hapless liar, Zullo's story suddenly changes:

One day later, after faced with evidence provided by CBS 5 Investigates, Zullo sent another email.

"In 2012 a FedEx envelope arrives unexpectedly at my door, just out of nowhere. When I opened it there is a check for $10,000 made out to me personally from Bill," wrote Zullo. He was referring to Bill Wolf, who was a major researcher in the birther movement.

Wolf had supplied the Cold Case Posse with a dossier of information about alleged problems with the President's birth certificate. The dossier became a major source of information for Zullo's investigation.

Read more: Birther posse chief I accepted 10 000 from source - WFSB 3 Connecticut

So apparently, in the Cold Case Posse, the only thing you need to do for an investigation to say what you want it to say.....is to bribe the lead investigator. And this is your source?

Sigh....no wonder Birthers are a national laughing stock.

His Connecticut Social Security number is irrelevant to Ludwig and Snopes is not credible in the first place.


Snopes is a hell of a lot more credible than you are, Steven. And they simply destroy your silly conspiracy.

Sigh...again.

As for Zullo, he broke no laws and it was perfectly legal to accept money from anyone who was interested in this cause and it is nobody's business. The gift has no bearing on Obama's forged documents.

The only reason Zullo isn't in prison right now he isn't an officer of the law nor is he leading an official investigation. The 'Cold Case Posse' is a private non-profit.

If Zullo were a cop, he'd already be head down, ass up in a prison cell.....as a cop taking bribes as part of a police investigation is flagrantly, wildly criminal and corrupt.

Zullo knows exactly how corrupt it is to take bribes during an investigation. Which is why he lied about it for years. This is Zullo's answer BEFORE the press handed him his ass with damning evidence.

"My answer to this question is emphatically No! These accusations that you claim you have heard are absolutely unfounded, slanderous and completely fabricated. They are designed to cast me and this organization in a disparaging light. I am appalled at this accusation!"

Read more: Birther posse chief I accepted 10 000 from source - WFSB 3 Connecticut

And this is Zullo's story one day later, AFTER the press handed him his ass with damning evidence.

One day later, after faced with evidence provided by CBS 5 Investigates, Zullo sent another email.

"In 2012 a FedEx envelope arrives unexpectedly at my door, just out of nowhere. When I opened it there is a check for $10,000 made out to me personally from Bill," wrote Zullo. He was referring to Bill Wolf, who was a major researcher in the birther movement.

Wolf had supplied the Cold Case Posse with a dossier of information about alleged problems with the President's birth certificate. The dossier became a major source of information for Zullo's investigation.

Read more: Birther posse chief I accepted 10 000 from source - WFSB 3 Connecticut

Zullo is a corrupt, lying piece of shit taking secret bribes from Birthers to say what Birthers want him to say. And this is your source?

There was no bribe? Stop lying
 
Good old dependable Steve-o. You can always depend on him to come up with some crazy tinfoil hat quality stuff. Too bad it's never fresh. Always the same old thing. I like the way he does his funny little teabagger dance though.

So you know then, for instance that obama's draft form was accepted by the post office in 1980 and that the one showed in the video is false?

Save that the Selected Service already confirmed that its accurate. Same number, same date, same name, everything.

Just destroying your latest piece of batshit, my little relativist.

Just as one presumes that you KNOW that obama was a citizen of Connecticut when he received his SS card... and post the evidence on which THAT affirmation rests.

Snopes already took that piece of birther batshit apart.

snopes.com Obama Stole His Social Security Number from Jean Paul Ludwig

Try again.

Of course, even if ya did ALL of that, which is obviously impossible... because we KNOW that obama's draft form is fraudulent, because the type of stamp used is standardized and they are DESIGNED WITH A FOUR DIGIT YEAR and obama's has a two digit year, based upon the evidence which establishes it as such. And bears ALL of the signs of just a TERRIBLE forgery. Clearly the same person or same type of low-skill individual who did the bang up job of forging his birth-certs.

Save you don't 'know' any of that. Nor can you prove any of it. You simply typed it. While Selected Service contradicted you.

Why would I ignore selected service and instead believe you, citing yourself? I can't think of a single reason.

\
AND... most importantly he was born to a Foreign National, thus given the Constitutional requirement that he be a Natural Born Citizen, we KNOW his Presidency is Illegitimate, because a person born to a Foreign National is NOT a natural born citizen of the United States, because his citizenship is not a function of natural consequences of birth, it is a function of US Law.

The obvious problem with your narrative being that you natural born status follows place of birth. By the standards laid out in Wong Kim Ark, which cited British Common Law as lens through which one understands natural born status.

Wong Kim Ark v. US said:
The fundamental principle of the common law with regard to English nationality was birth within the allegiance, also called "ligealty," "obedience," "faith," or "power" of the King. The principle embraced all persons born within the King's allegiance and subject to his protection. Such allegiance and protection were mutual -- as expressed in the maxim protectio trahit subjectionem, et subjectio protectionem -- and were not restricted to natural-born subjects and naturalized subjects, or to those who had taken an oath of allegiance, but were predicable of aliens in amity so long as they were within the kingdom. Children, born in England, of such aliens were therefore natural-born subjects. But the children, born within the realm, of foreign ambassadors, or the children of alien enemies, born during and within their hostile occupation of part of the King's dominions, were not natural-born subjects because not born within the allegiance, the obedience, or the power, or, as would be said at this day, within the jurisdiction, of the King.

Natural born status follows PLACE of birth. The USSC contradicts you. So you ignore the USSC, insisting that only the dictionary can tell us what 'natural born' means. Well, lets check the dictionary:



And when you follow native born, you get this:

Native born:
adjective:

1. born in the place or country indicated:
a native-born Australian.

Native-born Define Native-born at Dictionary.com

Destroying your silly little piece of relativist tin foil batshitery by your standards and mine.

Is there any claim I can't run you of off, birther?
Your post is nothing but a huge lie. You don't know what you are talking about.

Then refute me. Is my quote of Wong Kim Ark inaccurate? Of course not. Is my citation of the dictionary inaccurate? Of course not.

Both just destroy your silly little birther batshit. So you ignore them both. As anything that doesn't ape your conspiracy....becomes part of it.
Good old dependable Steve-o. You can always depend on him to come up with some crazy tinfoil hat quality stuff. Too bad it's never fresh. Always the same old thing. I like the way he does his funny little teabagger dance though.

So you know then, for instance that obama's draft form was accepted by the post office in 1980 and that the one showed in the video is false?

Save that the Selected Service already confirmed that its accurate. Same number, same date, same name, everything.

Just destroying your latest piece of batshit, my little relativist.

Just as one presumes that you KNOW that obama was a citizen of Connecticut when he received his SS card... and post the evidence on which THAT affirmation rests.

Snopes already took that piece of birther batshit apart.

snopes.com Obama Stole His Social Security Number from Jean Paul Ludwig

Try again.

Of course, even if ya did ALL of that, which is obviously impossible... because we KNOW that obama's draft form is fraudulent, because the type of stamp used is standardized and they are DESIGNED WITH A FOUR DIGIT YEAR and obama's has a two digit year, based upon the evidence which establishes it as such. And bears ALL of the signs of just a TERRIBLE forgery. Clearly the same person or same type of low-skill individual who did the bang up job of forging his birth-certs.

Save you don't 'know' any of that. Nor can you prove any of it. You simply typed it. While Selected Service contradicted you.

Why would I ignore selected service and instead believe you, citing yourself? I can't think of a single reason.

\
AND... most importantly he was born to a Foreign National, thus given the Constitutional requirement that he be a Natural Born Citizen, we KNOW his Presidency is Illegitimate, because a person born to a Foreign National is NOT a natural born citizen of the United States, because his citizenship is not a function of natural consequences of birth, it is a function of US Law.

The obvious problem with your narrative being that you natural born status follows place of birth. By the standards laid out in Wong Kim Ark, which cited British Common Law as lens through which one understands natural born status.

Wong Kim Ark v. US said:
The fundamental principle of the common law with regard to English nationality was birth within the allegiance, also called "ligealty," "obedience," "faith," or "power" of the King. The principle embraced all persons born within the King's allegiance and subject to his protection. Such allegiance and protection were mutual -- as expressed in the maxim protectio trahit subjectionem, et subjectio protectionem -- and were not restricted to natural-born subjects and naturalized subjects, or to those who had taken an oath of allegiance, but were predicable of aliens in amity so long as they were within the kingdom. Children, born in England, of such aliens were therefore natural-born subjects. But the children, born within the realm, of foreign ambassadors, or the children of alien enemies, born during and within their hostile occupation of part of the King's dominions, were not natural-born subjects because not born within the allegiance, the obedience, or the power, or, as would be said at this day, within the jurisdiction, of the King.

Natural born status follows PLACE of birth. The USSC contradicts you. So you ignore the USSC, insisting that only the dictionary can tell us what 'natural born' means. Well, lets check the dictionary:



And when you follow native born, you get this:

Native born:
adjective:

1. born in the place or country indicated:
a native-born Australian.

Native-born Define Native-born at Dictionary.com

Destroying your silly little piece of relativist tin foil batshitery by your standards and mine.

Is there any claim I can't run you of off, birther?
Your post is nothing but a huge lie. You don't know what you are talking about.

Then refute me. Is my quote of Wong Kim Ark inaccurate? Of course not. Is my citation of the dictionary inaccurate? Of course not.

Both just destroy your silly little birther batshit. So you ignore them both. As anything that doesn't ape your conspiracy....becomes part of it.
Start your own thread about Wong Kim Ark since this is a different thread topic. I will gladly discuss it.
 
We have proof he has a Connecticut social security number when he never lived there nor had family members live there.

Nope.

snopes.com Obama Stole His Social Security Number from Jean Paul Ludwig

We have this uncovered and presented by the Maricopa County Sheriffs Office:


Show us the official report from Maricopa County Sheriff's Department. There is none. Maricopa county won't officially get behind anything in that video. Mike Zullo will, however.

And Mike has been taking bribes from birthers as part of his 'investigation'.

fter two years of denying he personally profited from the Maricopa County Sheriff's Office investigation into the validity of President Barack Obama's birth certificate, the head of the sheriff's Cold Case Posse admitted to CBS 5 Investigates that he accepted a large monetary gift from one of the sources in the investigation.

Read more: Birther posse chief I accepted 10 000 from source - WFSB 3 Connecticut

Mike was asked about the check and adamant that it never happened:
"My answer to this question is emphatically No! These accusations that you claim you have heard are absolutely unfounded, slanderous and completely fabricated. They are designed to cast me and this organization in a disparaging light. I am appalled at this accusation!"

Read more: Birther posse chief I accepted 10 000 from source - WFSB 3 Connecticut

But when presented with evidence that prove Zullo a hapless liar, Zullo's story suddenly changes:

One day later, after faced with evidence provided by CBS 5 Investigates, Zullo sent another email.

"In 2012 a FedEx envelope arrives unexpectedly at my door, just out of nowhere. When I opened it there is a check for $10,000 made out to me personally from Bill," wrote Zullo. He was referring to Bill Wolf, who was a major researcher in the birther movement.

Wolf had supplied the Cold Case Posse with a dossier of information about alleged problems with the President's birth certificate. The dossier became a major source of information for Zullo's investigation.

Read more: Birther posse chief I accepted 10 000 from source - WFSB 3 Connecticut

So apparently, in the Cold Case Posse, the only thing you need to do for an investigation to say what you want it to say.....is to bribe the lead investigator. And this is your source?

Sigh....no wonder Birthers are a national laughing stock.

His Connecticut Social Security number is irrelevant to Ludwig and Snopes is not credible in the first place.


Snopes is a hell of a lot more credible than you are, Steven. And they simply destroy your silly conspiracy.

Sigh...again.

As for Zullo, he broke no laws and it was perfectly legal to accept money from anyone who was interested in this cause and it is nobody's business. The gift has no bearing on Obama's forged documents.

The only reason Zullo isn't in prison right now he isn't an officer of the law nor is he leading an official investigation. The 'Cold Case Posse' is a private non-profit.

If Zullo were a cop, he'd already be head down, ass up in a prison cell.....as a cop taking bribes as part of a police investigation is flagrantly, wildly criminal and corrupt.

Zullo knows exactly how corrupt it is to take bribes during an investigation. Which is why he lied about it for years. This is Zullo's answer BEFORE the press handed him his ass with damning evidence.

"My answer to this question is emphatically No! These accusations that you claim you have heard are absolutely unfounded, slanderous and completely fabricated. They are designed to cast me and this organization in a disparaging light. I am appalled at this accusation!"

Read more: Birther posse chief I accepted 10 000 from source - WFSB 3 Connecticut

And this is Zullo's story one day later, AFTER the press handed him his ass with damning evidence.

One day later, after faced with evidence provided by CBS 5 Investigates, Zullo sent another email.

"In 2012 a FedEx envelope arrives unexpectedly at my door, just out of nowhere. When I opened it there is a check for $10,000 made out to me personally from Bill," wrote Zullo. He was referring to Bill Wolf, who was a major researcher in the birther movement.

Wolf had supplied the Cold Case Posse with a dossier of information about alleged problems with the President's birth certificate. The dossier became a major source of information for Zullo's investigation.

Read more: Birther posse chief I accepted 10 000 from source - WFSB 3 Connecticut

Zullo is a corrupt, lying piece of shit taking secret bribes from Birthers to say what Birthers want him to say. And this is your source?

There was no bribe? Stop lying


That's what you say. This is what Zullo was forced to admit when cornered by the press.....and after 2 years of lying his corrupt ass off:

One day later, after faced with evidence provided by CBS 5 Investigates, Zullo sent another email.

"In 2012 a FedEx envelope arrives unexpectedly at my door, just out of nowhere. When I opened it there is a check for $10,000 made out to me personally from Bill," wrote Zullo. He was referring to Bill Wolf, who was a major researcher in the birther movement.

Wolf had supplied the Cold Case Posse with a dossier of information about alleged problems with the President's birth certificate. The dossier became a major source of information for Zullo's investigation.

Read more: Birther posse chief I accepted 10 000 from source - WFSB 3 Connecticut

Zullo is a corrupt, lying sack of shit. And the only reason he's not in prison right now....is that he's not an officer of the law, nor is he conducting any official investigatin. If he were a cop, he'd have long since been brought up on charges for taking bribes and corruption.

Lucky for Zullo.... the 'Cold Case Posse' is only a meaningless and corrupt non-profit.
 
Good old dependable Steve-o. You can always depend on him to come up with some crazy tinfoil hat quality stuff. Too bad it's never fresh. Always the same old thing. I like the way he does his funny little teabagger dance though.

So you know then, for instance that obama's draft form was accepted by the post office in 1980 and that the one showed in the video is false?

Save that the Selected Service already confirmed that its accurate. Same number, same date, same name, everything.

Just destroying your latest piece of batshit, my little relativist.

Just as one presumes that you KNOW that obama was a citizen of Connecticut when he received his SS card... and post the evidence on which THAT affirmation rests.

Snopes already took that piece of birther batshit apart.

snopes.com Obama Stole His Social Security Number from Jean Paul Ludwig

Try again.

Of course, even if ya did ALL of that, which is obviously impossible... because we KNOW that obama's draft form is fraudulent, because the type of stamp used is standardized and they are DESIGNED WITH A FOUR DIGIT YEAR and obama's has a two digit year, based upon the evidence which establishes it as such. And bears ALL of the signs of just a TERRIBLE forgery. Clearly the same person or same type of low-skill individual who did the bang up job of forging his birth-certs.

Save you don't 'know' any of that. Nor can you prove any of it. You simply typed it. While Selected Service contradicted you.

Why would I ignore selected service and instead believe you, citing yourself? I can't think of a single reason.

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AND... most importantly he was born to a Foreign National, thus given the Constitutional requirement that he be a Natural Born Citizen, we KNOW his Presidency is Illegitimate, because a person born to a Foreign National is NOT a natural born citizen of the United States, because his citizenship is not a function of natural consequences of birth, it is a function of US Law.

The obvious problem with your narrative being that you natural born status follows place of birth. By the standards laid out in Wong Kim Ark, which cited British Common Law as lens through which one understands natural born status.

Wong Kim Ark v. US said:
The fundamental principle of the common law with regard to English nationality was birth within the allegiance, also called "ligealty," "obedience," "faith," or "power" of the King. The principle embraced all persons born within the King's allegiance and subject to his protection. Such allegiance and protection were mutual -- as expressed in the maxim protectio trahit subjectionem, et subjectio protectionem -- and were not restricted to natural-born subjects and naturalized subjects, or to those who had taken an oath of allegiance, but were predicable of aliens in amity so long as they were within the kingdom. Children, born in England, of such aliens were therefore natural-born subjects. But the children, born within the realm, of foreign ambassadors, or the children of alien enemies, born during and within their hostile occupation of part of the King's dominions, were not natural-born subjects because not born within the allegiance, the obedience, or the power, or, as would be said at this day, within the jurisdiction, of the King.

Natural born status follows PLACE of birth. The USSC contradicts you. So you ignore the USSC, insisting that only the dictionary can tell us what 'natural born' means. Well, lets check the dictionary:



And when you follow native born, you get this:

Native born:
adjective:

1. born in the place or country indicated:
a native-born Australian.

Native-born Define Native-born at Dictionary.com

Destroying your silly little piece of relativist tin foil batshitery by your standards and mine.

Is there any claim I can't run you of off, birther?
Your post is nothing but a huge lie. You don't know what you are talking about.

Then refute me. Is my quote of Wong Kim Ark inaccurate? Of course not. Is my citation of the dictionary inaccurate? Of course not.

Both just destroy your silly little birther batshit. So you ignore them both. As anything that doesn't ape your conspiracy....becomes part of it.
Good old dependable Steve-o. You can always depend on him to come up with some crazy tinfoil hat quality stuff. Too bad it's never fresh. Always the same old thing. I like the way he does his funny little teabagger dance though.

So you know then, for instance that obama's draft form was accepted by the post office in 1980 and that the one showed in the video is false?

Save that the Selected Service already confirmed that its accurate. Same number, same date, same name, everything.

Just destroying your latest piece of batshit, my little relativist.

Just as one presumes that you KNOW that obama was a citizen of Connecticut when he received his SS card... and post the evidence on which THAT affirmation rests.

Snopes already took that piece of birther batshit apart.

snopes.com Obama Stole His Social Security Number from Jean Paul Ludwig

Try again.

Of course, even if ya did ALL of that, which is obviously impossible... because we KNOW that obama's draft form is fraudulent, because the type of stamp used is standardized and they are DESIGNED WITH A FOUR DIGIT YEAR and obama's has a two digit year, based upon the evidence which establishes it as such. And bears ALL of the signs of just a TERRIBLE forgery. Clearly the same person or same type of low-skill individual who did the bang up job of forging his birth-certs.

Save you don't 'know' any of that. Nor can you prove any of it. You simply typed it. While Selected Service contradicted you.

Why would I ignore selected service and instead believe you, citing yourself? I can't think of a single reason.

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AND... most importantly he was born to a Foreign National, thus given the Constitutional requirement that he be a Natural Born Citizen, we KNOW his Presidency is Illegitimate, because a person born to a Foreign National is NOT a natural born citizen of the United States, because his citizenship is not a function of natural consequences of birth, it is a function of US Law.

The obvious problem with your narrative being that you natural born status follows place of birth. By the standards laid out in Wong Kim Ark, which cited British Common Law as lens through which one understands natural born status.

Wong Kim Ark v. US said:
The fundamental principle of the common law with regard to English nationality was birth within the allegiance, also called "ligealty," "obedience," "faith," or "power" of the King. The principle embraced all persons born within the King's allegiance and subject to his protection. Such allegiance and protection were mutual -- as expressed in the maxim protectio trahit subjectionem, et subjectio protectionem -- and were not restricted to natural-born subjects and naturalized subjects, or to those who had taken an oath of allegiance, but were predicable of aliens in amity so long as they were within the kingdom. Children, born in England, of such aliens were therefore natural-born subjects. But the children, born within the realm, of foreign ambassadors, or the children of alien enemies, born during and within their hostile occupation of part of the King's dominions, were not natural-born subjects because not born within the allegiance, the obedience, or the power, or, as would be said at this day, within the jurisdiction, of the King.

Natural born status follows PLACE of birth. The USSC contradicts you. So you ignore the USSC, insisting that only the dictionary can tell us what 'natural born' means. Well, lets check the dictionary:



And when you follow native born, you get this:

Native born:
adjective:

1. born in the place or country indicated:
a native-born Australian.

Native-born Define Native-born at Dictionary.com

Destroying your silly little piece of relativist tin foil batshitery by your standards and mine.

Is there any claim I can't run you of off, birther?
Your post is nothing but a huge lie. You don't know what you are talking about.

Then refute me. Is my quote of Wong Kim Ark inaccurate? Of course not. Is my citation of the dictionary inaccurate? Of course not.

Both just destroy your silly little birther batshit. So you ignore them both. As anything that doesn't ape your conspiracy....becomes part of it.
Start your own thread about Wong Kim Ark since this is a different thread topic. I will gladly discuss it.

Laughing.....so you can't refute me, nor can you refute any of my sources.

Run along, Steven. You're clearly out of your depth.
 
We have proof he has a Connecticut social security number when he never lived there nor had family members live there.

Nope.

snopes.com Obama Stole His Social Security Number from Jean Paul Ludwig

We have this uncovered and presented by the Maricopa County Sheriffs Office:


Show us the official report from Maricopa County Sheriff's Department. There is none. Maricopa county won't officially get behind anything in that video. Mike Zullo will, however.

And Mike has been taking bribes from birthers as part of his 'investigation'.

fter two years of denying he personally profited from the Maricopa County Sheriff's Office investigation into the validity of President Barack Obama's birth certificate, the head of the sheriff's Cold Case Posse admitted to CBS 5 Investigates that he accepted a large monetary gift from one of the sources in the investigation.

Read more: Birther posse chief I accepted 10 000 from source - WFSB 3 Connecticut

Mike was asked about the check and adamant that it never happened:
"My answer to this question is emphatically No! These accusations that you claim you have heard are absolutely unfounded, slanderous and completely fabricated. They are designed to cast me and this organization in a disparaging light. I am appalled at this accusation!"

Read more: Birther posse chief I accepted 10 000 from source - WFSB 3 Connecticut

But when presented with evidence that prove Zullo a hapless liar, Zullo's story suddenly changes:

One day later, after faced with evidence provided by CBS 5 Investigates, Zullo sent another email.

"In 2012 a FedEx envelope arrives unexpectedly at my door, just out of nowhere. When I opened it there is a check for $10,000 made out to me personally from Bill," wrote Zullo. He was referring to Bill Wolf, who was a major researcher in the birther movement.

Wolf had supplied the Cold Case Posse with a dossier of information about alleged problems with the President's birth certificate. The dossier became a major source of information for Zullo's investigation.

Read more: Birther posse chief I accepted 10 000 from source - WFSB 3 Connecticut

So apparently, in the Cold Case Posse, the only thing you need to do for an investigation to say what you want it to say.....is to bribe the lead investigator. And this is your source?

Sigh....no wonder Birthers are a national laughing stock.

His Connecticut Social Security number is irrelevant to Ludwig and Snopes is not credible in the first place.


Snopes is a hell of a lot more credible than you are, Steven. And they simply destroy your silly conspiracy.

Sigh...again.

As for Zullo, he broke no laws and it was perfectly legal to accept money from anyone who was interested in this cause and it is nobody's business. The gift has no bearing on Obama's forged documents.

The only reason Zullo isn't in prison right now he isn't an officer of the law nor is he leading an official investigation. The 'Cold Case Posse' is a private non-profit.

If Zullo were a cop, he'd already be head down, ass up in a prison cell.....as a cop taking bribes as part of a police investigation is flagrantly, wildly criminal and corrupt.

Zullo knows exactly how corrupt it is to take bribes during an investigation. Which is why he lied about it for years. This is Zullo's answer BEFORE the press handed him his ass with damning evidence.

"My answer to this question is emphatically No! These accusations that you claim you have heard are absolutely unfounded, slanderous and completely fabricated. They are designed to cast me and this organization in a disparaging light. I am appalled at this accusation!"

Read more: Birther posse chief I accepted 10 000 from source - WFSB 3 Connecticut

And this is Zullo's story one day later, AFTER the press handed him his ass with damning evidence.

One day later, after faced with evidence provided by CBS 5 Investigates, Zullo sent another email.

"In 2012 a FedEx envelope arrives unexpectedly at my door, just out of nowhere. When I opened it there is a check for $10,000 made out to me personally from Bill," wrote Zullo. He was referring to Bill Wolf, who was a major researcher in the birther movement.

Wolf had supplied the Cold Case Posse with a dossier of information about alleged problems with the President's birth certificate. The dossier became a major source of information for Zullo's investigation.

Read more: Birther posse chief I accepted 10 000 from source - WFSB 3 Connecticut

Zullo is a corrupt, lying piece of shit taking secret bribes from Birthers to say what Birthers want him to say. And this is your source?

There was no bribe? Stop lying


That's what you say. This is what Zullo was forced to admit when cornered by the press.....and after 2 years of lying his corrupt ass off:

One day later, after faced with evidence provided by CBS 5 Investigates, Zullo sent another email.

"In 2012 a FedEx envelope arrives unexpectedly at my door, just out of nowhere. When I opened it there is a check for $10,000 made out to me personally from Bill," wrote Zullo. He was referring to Bill Wolf, who was a major researcher in the birther movement.

Wolf had supplied the Cold Case Posse with a dossier of information about alleged problems with the President's birth certificate. The dossier became a major source of information for Zullo's investigation.

Read more: Birther posse chief I accepted 10 000 from source - WFSB 3 Connecticut

Zullo is a corrupt, lying sack of shit. And the only reason he's not in prison right now....is that he's not an officer of the law, nor is he conducting any official investigatin. If he were a cop, he'd have long since been brought up on charges for taking bribes and corruption.

Lucky for Zullo.... the 'Cold Case Posse' is only a meaningless and corrupt non-profit.

The CCP has ALL the full resources of the Maricopa County Sheriffs Office at their disposal. They are not meaningless and there has been absolutely ZERO evidence of any corruption. They are still active. Zullo is COMPLETELY innocent.
 
Nope.

snopes.com Obama Stole His Social Security Number from Jean Paul Ludwig

Show us the official report from Maricopa County Sheriff's Department. There is none. Maricopa county won't officially get behind anything in that video. Mike Zullo will, however.

And Mike has been taking bribes from birthers as part of his 'investigation'.

Mike was asked about the check and adamant that it never happened:
But when presented with evidence that prove Zullo a hapless liar, Zullo's story suddenly changes:

So apparently, in the Cold Case Posse, the only thing you need to do for an investigation to say what you want it to say.....is to bribe the lead investigator. And this is your source?

Sigh....no wonder Birthers are a national laughing stock.
His Connecticut Social Security number is irrelevant to Ludwig and Snopes is not credible in the first place.

Snopes is a hell of a lot more credible than you are, Steven. And they simply destroy your silly conspiracy.

Sigh...again.

As for Zullo, he broke no laws and it was perfectly legal to accept money from anyone who was interested in this cause and it is nobody's business. The gift has no bearing on Obama's forged documents.

The only reason Zullo isn't in prison right now he isn't an officer of the law nor is he leading an official investigation. The 'Cold Case Posse' is a private non-profit.

If Zullo were a cop, he'd already be head down, ass up in a prison cell.....as a cop taking bribes as part of a police investigation is flagrantly, wildly criminal and corrupt.

Zullo knows exactly how corrupt it is to take bribes during an investigation. Which is why he lied about it for years. This is Zullo's answer BEFORE the press handed him his ass with damning evidence.

"My answer to this question is emphatically No! These accusations that you claim you have heard are absolutely unfounded, slanderous and completely fabricated. They are designed to cast me and this organization in a disparaging light. I am appalled at this accusation!"

Read more: Birther posse chief I accepted 10 000 from source - WFSB 3 Connecticut

And this is Zullo's story one day later, AFTER the press handed him his ass with damning evidence.

One day later, after faced with evidence provided by CBS 5 Investigates, Zullo sent another email.

"In 2012 a FedEx envelope arrives unexpectedly at my door, just out of nowhere. When I opened it there is a check for $10,000 made out to me personally from Bill," wrote Zullo. He was referring to Bill Wolf, who was a major researcher in the birther movement.

Wolf had supplied the Cold Case Posse with a dossier of information about alleged problems with the President's birth certificate. The dossier became a major source of information for Zullo's investigation.

Read more: Birther posse chief I accepted 10 000 from source - WFSB 3 Connecticut

Zullo is a corrupt, lying piece of shit taking secret bribes from Birthers to say what Birthers want him to say. And this is your source?
There was no bribe? Stop lying

That's what you say. This is what Zullo was forced to admit when cornered by the press.....and after 2 years of lying his corrupt ass off:

One day later, after faced with evidence provided by CBS 5 Investigates, Zullo sent another email.

"In 2012 a FedEx envelope arrives unexpectedly at my door, just out of nowhere. When I opened it there is a check for $10,000 made out to me personally from Bill," wrote Zullo. He was referring to Bill Wolf, who was a major researcher in the birther movement.

Wolf had supplied the Cold Case Posse with a dossier of information about alleged problems with the President's birth certificate. The dossier became a major source of information for Zullo's investigation.

Read more: Birther posse chief I accepted 10 000 from source - WFSB 3 Connecticut

Zullo is a corrupt, lying sack of shit. And the only reason he's not in prison right now....is that he's not an officer of the law, nor is he conducting any official investigatin. If he were a cop, he'd have long since been brought up on charges for taking bribes and corruption.

Lucky for Zullo.... the 'Cold Case Posse' is only a meaningless and corrupt non-profit.
The CCP has ALL the full resources of the Maricopa County Sheriffs Office at their disposal. They are not meaningless and there has been absolutely ZERO evidence of any corruption. They are still active. Zullo is COMPLETELY innocent.

Then show us the official Maricopa County Sheriff's report on the topic.

There is none, is there? This isn't a police investigation. Zullo isn't acting as a law enforcement officer. He's a corrupt and lying sack of shit taking bribes as the head of a meaningless non-profit called 'The Cold Case Posse'.

And Maricopa County won't issue an official report backing any of Zullo's bullshit.

So if I send bribes to Zullo will his 'investigation' magically match my narrative too?
 
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His Connecticut Social Security number is irrelevant to Ludwig and Snopes is not credible in the first place.

Snopes is a hell of a lot more credible than you are, Steven. And they simply destroy your silly conspiracy.

Sigh...again.

As for Zullo, he broke no laws and it was perfectly legal to accept money from anyone who was interested in this cause and it is nobody's business. The gift has no bearing on Obama's forged documents.

The only reason Zullo isn't in prison right now he isn't an officer of the law nor is he leading an official investigation. The 'Cold Case Posse' is a private non-profit.

If Zullo were a cop, he'd already be head down, ass up in a prison cell.....as a cop taking bribes as part of a police investigation is flagrantly, wildly criminal and corrupt.

Zullo knows exactly how corrupt it is to take bribes during an investigation. Which is why he lied about it for years. This is Zullo's answer BEFORE the press handed him his ass with damning evidence.

"My answer to this question is emphatically No! These accusations that you claim you have heard are absolutely unfounded, slanderous and completely fabricated. They are designed to cast me and this organization in a disparaging light. I am appalled at this accusation!"

Read more: Birther posse chief I accepted 10 000 from source - WFSB 3 Connecticut

And this is Zullo's story one day later, AFTER the press handed him his ass with damning evidence.

One day later, after faced with evidence provided by CBS 5 Investigates, Zullo sent another email.

"In 2012 a FedEx envelope arrives unexpectedly at my door, just out of nowhere. When I opened it there is a check for $10,000 made out to me personally from Bill," wrote Zullo. He was referring to Bill Wolf, who was a major researcher in the birther movement.

Wolf had supplied the Cold Case Posse with a dossier of information about alleged problems with the President's birth certificate. The dossier became a major source of information for Zullo's investigation.

Read more: Birther posse chief I accepted 10 000 from source - WFSB 3 Connecticut

Zullo is a corrupt, lying piece of shit taking secret bribes from Birthers to say what Birthers want him to say. And this is your source?
There was no bribe? Stop lying

That's what you say. This is what Zullo was forced to admit when cornered by the press.....and after 2 years of lying his corrupt ass off:

One day later, after faced with evidence provided by CBS 5 Investigates, Zullo sent another email.

"In 2012 a FedEx envelope arrives unexpectedly at my door, just out of nowhere. When I opened it there is a check for $10,000 made out to me personally from Bill," wrote Zullo. He was referring to Bill Wolf, who was a major researcher in the birther movement.

Wolf had supplied the Cold Case Posse with a dossier of information about alleged problems with the President's birth certificate. The dossier became a major source of information for Zullo's investigation.

Read more: Birther posse chief I accepted 10 000 from source - WFSB 3 Connecticut

Zullo is a corrupt, lying sack of shit. And the only reason he's not in prison right now....is that he's not an officer of the law, nor is he conducting any official investigatin. If he were a cop, he'd have long since been brought up on charges for taking bribes and corruption.

Lucky for Zullo.... the 'Cold Case Posse' is only a meaningless and corrupt non-profit.
The CCP has ALL the full resources of the Maricopa County Sheriffs Office at their disposal. They are not meaningless and there has been absolutely ZERO evidence of any corruption. They are still active. Zullo is COMPLETELY innocent.

Then show us the official Maricopa County Sheriff's report on the topic.

There is none, is there? This isn't a police investigation. Zullo isn't acting as a law enforcement officer. He's a corrupt and lying sack of shit taking bribes as the head of a meaningless non-profit called 'The Cold Case Posse'.

And Maricopa County won't issue an official report backing any of Zullo's bullshit.

So if I send bribes to Zullo will his 'investigation' magically match my narrative too?
Thats because thecreport is not ready to be released Mr. Obama water boy. When they're through getting through wrapping up a few legal hurdles by their lawyer Arpaio will expose the usurper.
 
Good old dependable Steve-o. You can always depend on him to come up with some crazy tinfoil hat quality stuff. Too bad it's never fresh. Always the same old thing. I like the way he does his funny little teabagger dance though.

So you know then, for instance that obama's draft form was accepted by the post office in 1980 and that the one showed in the video is false?

Because, if you do KNOW that, then you can post the evidence on which you rest that affirmation. And put that would-be rumor to bed.

Just as one presumes that you KNOW that obama was a citizen of Connecticut when he received his SS card... and post the evidence on which THAT affirmation rests.

And you can explain how obama's conception was, in ANY way, inspired by events which would not happen for another FOUR plus YEARS after his birth, which requires that you provide evidence that obama was born BOTH in 1961 and in late 1965, or later... .

Of course, even if ya did ALL of that, which is obviously impossible... because we KNOW that obama's draft form is fraudulent, because the type of stamp used is standardized and they are DESIGNED WITH A FOUR DIGIT YEAR and obama's has a two digit year, based upon the evidence which establishes it as such. And bears ALL of the signs of just a TERRIBLE forgery. Clearly the same person or same type of low-skill individual who did the bang up job of forging his birth-certs.

We know that obama was NEVER a citizen of Connecticut, which proves his SS card is fraudulent.

So, all that's left is the date of his birth, which HE CLAIMS was in 61, and that such was inspired by the events in Selma, AL 4 years after he claims he was born.

AND... most importantly he was born to a Foreign National, thus given the Constitutional requirement that he be a Natural Born Citizen, we KNOW his Presidency is Illegitimate, because a person born to a Foreign National is NOT a natural born citizen of the United States, because his citizenship is not a function of natural consequences of birth, it is a function of US Law.

So, where the issue is 'tinfoil hat', which refers to people with foolish, irrational political 'beliefs, it is YOU who are demonstrating the traits common to THAT unenviable tag.

See how that works?


Right. Keep that tinfoil hat tight.
 
Good old dependable Steve-o. You can always depend on him to come up with some crazy tinfoil hat quality stuff. Too bad it's never fresh. Always the same old thing. I like the way he does his funny little teabagger dance though.

So you know then, for instance that obama's draft form was accepted by the post office in 1980 and that the one showed in the video is false?

Save that the Selected Service already confirmed that its accurate. Same number, same date, same name, everything.

Just destroying your latest piece of batshit, my little relativist.

Just as one presumes that you KNOW that obama was a citizen of Connecticut when he received his SS card... and post the evidence on which THAT affirmation rests.

Snopes already took that piece of birther batshit apart.

snopes.com Obama Stole His Social Security Number from Jean Paul Ludwig

Try again.

Of course, even if ya did ALL of that, which is obviously impossible... because we KNOW that obama's draft form is fraudulent, because the type of stamp used is standardized and they are DESIGNED WITH A FOUR DIGIT YEAR and obama's has a two digit year, based upon the evidence which establishes it as such. And bears ALL of the signs of just a TERRIBLE forgery. Clearly the same person or same type of low-skill individual who did the bang up job of forging his birth-certs.

Save you don't 'know' any of that. Nor can you prove any of it. You simply typed it. While Selected Service contradicted you.

Why would I ignore selected service and instead believe you, citing yourself? I can't think of a single reason.

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AND... most importantly he was born to a Foreign National, thus given the Constitutional requirement that he be a Natural Born Citizen, we KNOW his Presidency is Illegitimate, because a person born to a Foreign National is NOT a natural born citizen of the United States, because his citizenship is not a function of natural consequences of birth, it is a function of US Law.

The obvious problem with your narrative being that you natural born status follows place of birth. By the standards laid out in Wong Kim Ark, which cited British Common Law as lens through which one understands natural born status.

Wong Kim Ark v. US said:
The fundamental principle of the common law with regard to English nationality was birth within the allegiance, also called "ligealty," "obedience," "faith," or "power" of the King. The principle embraced all persons born within the King's allegiance and subject to his protection. Such allegiance and protection were mutual -- as expressed in the maxim protectio trahit subjectionem, et subjectio protectionem -- and were not restricted to natural-born subjects and naturalized subjects, or to those who had taken an oath of allegiance, but were predicable of aliens in amity so long as they were within the kingdom. Children, born in England, of such aliens were therefore natural-born subjects. But the children, born within the realm, of foreign ambassadors, or the children of alien enemies, born during and within their hostile occupation of part of the King's dominions, were not natural-born subjects because not born within the allegiance, the obedience, or the power, or, as would be said at this day, within the jurisdiction, of the King.

Natural born status follows PLACE of birth. The USSC contradicts you. So you ignore the USSC, insisting that only the dictionary can tell us what 'natural born' means. Well, lets check the dictionary:



And when you follow native born, you get this:

Native born:
adjective:

1. born in the place or country indicated:
a native-born Australian.

Native-born Define Native-born at Dictionary.com

Destroying your silly little piece of relativist tin foil batshitery by your standards and mine.

Is there any claim I can't run you of off, birther?


I'm surprised you had the patience to explain all that to that idiot. It's not like he hasn't already heard it at least a million times.
 
Snopes is a hell of a lot more credible than you are, Steven. And they simply destroy your silly conspiracy.

Sigh...again.

The only reason Zullo isn't in prison right now he isn't an officer of the law nor is he leading an official investigation. The 'Cold Case Posse' is a private non-profit.

If Zullo were a cop, he'd already be head down, ass up in a prison cell.....as a cop taking bribes as part of a police investigation is flagrantly, wildly criminal and corrupt.

Zullo knows exactly how corrupt it is to take bribes during an investigation. Which is why he lied about it for years. This is Zullo's answer BEFORE the press handed him his ass with damning evidence.

And this is Zullo's story one day later, AFTER the press handed him his ass with damning evidence.

Zullo is a corrupt, lying piece of shit taking secret bribes from Birthers to say what Birthers want him to say. And this is your source?
There was no bribe? Stop lying

That's what you say. This is what Zullo was forced to admit when cornered by the press.....and after 2 years of lying his corrupt ass off:

One day later, after faced with evidence provided by CBS 5 Investigates, Zullo sent another email.

"In 2012 a FedEx envelope arrives unexpectedly at my door, just out of nowhere. When I opened it there is a check for $10,000 made out to me personally from Bill," wrote Zullo. He was referring to Bill Wolf, who was a major researcher in the birther movement.

Wolf had supplied the Cold Case Posse with a dossier of information about alleged problems with the President's birth certificate. The dossier became a major source of information for Zullo's investigation.

Read more: Birther posse chief I accepted 10 000 from source - WFSB 3 Connecticut

Zullo is a corrupt, lying sack of shit. And the only reason he's not in prison right now....is that he's not an officer of the law, nor is he conducting any official investigatin. If he were a cop, he'd have long since been brought up on charges for taking bribes and corruption.

Lucky for Zullo.... the 'Cold Case Posse' is only a meaningless and corrupt non-profit.
The CCP has ALL the full resources of the Maricopa County Sheriffs Office at their disposal. They are not meaningless and there has been absolutely ZERO evidence of any corruption. They are still active. Zullo is COMPLETELY innocent.

Then show us the official Maricopa County Sheriff's report on the topic.

There is none, is there? This isn't a police investigation. Zullo isn't acting as a law enforcement officer. He's a corrupt and lying sack of shit taking bribes as the head of a meaningless non-profit called 'The Cold Case Posse'.

And Maricopa County won't issue an official report backing any of Zullo's bullshit.

So if I send bribes to Zullo will his 'investigation' magically match my narrative too?
Thats because thecreport is not ready to be released Mr. Obama water boy. When they're through getting through wrapping up a few legal hurdles by their lawyer Arpaio will expose the usurper.


Can we expect a joint release with the Donald Trump investigation, or did that thing on his head eat his report?
 
Good old dependable Steve-o. You can always depend on him to come up with some crazy tinfoil hat quality stuff. Too bad it's never fresh. Always the same old thing. I like the way he does his funny little teabagger dance though.
So did Obama make that Selma quote about his parents or not?
Yes he did, "There was something stirring across the country because of what happened in Selma, Alabama, because some folks are willing to march across a bridge. So they got together and Barack Obama Jr. was born. So don't tell me I don't have a claim on Selma, Alabama. Don't tell me I’m not coming home to Selma, Alabama." Obama in 2007.

Where's the rest of the quote? That can't be all there is...

:eusa_whistle:
It is the part that proves you a liar. Want the rest, Google it.

So you don't think Obama is a liar also then?
With which part of this do you disagree with Obama because he told us blatantly he was a liar from his book "Dreams of My Father"...
It was usually an effective tactic, another one of those tricks I had learned.
People were satisfied so long as you were courteous and smiled and made no sudden moves.
They were more than satisfied. They were revealed.
Such a pleasant surprise to find a well-mannered young black man who didn't seem angry all the time."

People that use "tricks", "tactics" to fool people are also lying to people.
 
Good old dependable Steve-o. You can always depend on him to come up with some crazy tinfoil hat quality stuff. Too bad it's never fresh. Always the same old thing. I like the way he does his funny little teabagger dance though.

So you know then, for instance that obama's draft form was accepted by the post office in 1980 and that the one showed in the video is false?

Because, if you do KNOW that, then you can post the evidence on which you rest that affirmation. And put that would-be rumor to bed.

Just as one presumes that you KNOW that obama was a citizen of Connecticut when he received his SS card... and post the evidence on which THAT affirmation rests.

And you can explain how obama's conception was, in ANY way, inspired by events which would not happen for another FOUR plus YEARS after his birth, which requires that you provide evidence that obama was born BOTH in 1961 and in late 1965, or later... .

Of course, even if ya did ALL of that, which is obviously impossible... because we KNOW that obama's draft form is fraudulent, because the type of stamp used is standardized and they are DESIGNED WITH A FOUR DIGIT YEAR and obama's has a two digit year, based upon the evidence which establishes it as such. And bears ALL of the signs of just a TERRIBLE forgery. Clearly the same person or same type of low-skill individual who did the bang up job of forging his birth-certs.

We know that obama was NEVER a citizen of Connecticut, which proves his SS card is fraudulent.

So, all that's left is the date of his birth, which HE CLAIMS was in 61, and that such was inspired by the events in Selma, AL 4 years after he claims he was born.

AND... most importantly he was born to a Foreign National, thus given the Constitutional requirement that he be a Natural Born Citizen, we KNOW his Presidency is Illegitimate, because a person born to a Foreign National is NOT a natural born citizen of the United States, because his citizenship is not a function of natural consequences of birth, it is a function of US Law.

So, where the issue is 'tinfoil hat', which refers to people with foolish, irrational political 'beliefs, it is YOU who are demonstrating the traits common to THAT unenviable tag.

See how that works?


Right. Keep that tinfoil hat tight.

From the looks of it, you've got it strapped on properly!

Your concession is duly noted and summarily accepted
 
Flashback: In 2007 Speech, Obama Credited 1965 Selma March For Inspiring His Birth--------- In 1961

Yep, that is true.

Say What, Barack?

Aha. No wonder they didn't want to quote it.

"... something happened back here in Selma, Alabama. Something happened in Birmingham that sent out what Bobby Kennedy called, "ripples of hope all around the world." Something happened when a bunch of women decided they were going to walk instead of ride the bus after a long day of doing somebody else's laundry, looking after somebody else's children.

"When (black) men who had PhD's decided 'that's enough' and 'we're going to stand up for our dignity,' that sent a shout across oceans so that my grandfather began to imagine something different for his son. His son, who grew up herding goats in a small village in Africa could suddenly set his sights a little higher and believe that maybe a black man in this world had a chance. "So the Kennedy's decided we're going to do an air lift. We're going to go to Africa and start bringing young Africans over to this country and give them scholarships to study so they can learn what a wonderful country America is.

"This young man named Barack Obama got one of those tickets and came over to this country. He met this woman whose great great-great-great-grandfather had owned slaves; but she had a good idea there was some craziness going on because they looked at each other and they decided that we know that, (in) the world as it has been, it might not be possible for us to get together and have a child. There was something stirring across the country because of what happened in Selma, Alabama, because some folks are willing to march across a bridge. So they got together and Barack Obama Jr. was born. <<
That reference to a bunch of women who "decided they were going to walk instead of ride the bus" is a clear reference to the Montgomery bus boycott -- which happened in 1955-56. Taking that, Birmingham, Selma together in context reveals he speaks of the entire civil rights 'movement' and the cultural change that sprang from it and that is what leads up to "so they got together". Not a demonstration in 1965 all by itself.

Please do not try to explain context to conservatives

They only understand sound bites
 
The problem here is who is more to blame, Obama foe putting this crap out there or the American voter for lapping it up without questions?
 

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