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Far too many people live for the feud, it's not about the country, it's about feeling as if they are actively involved in shaping their own personal future when the horrible truth is that we are pretty much helpless to do anything real, by design. We are not really free to change things by collectively lobbying our leaders to honestly address our problems within the system and anything else is greeted by accusations of radicalism and worse. We all know the system is rigged against us yet we blame a bunch of other people in the same boat as we are. In years past I was just as solidly partisan as most on this board, a proud democrat and supporter of president Obama, but as time went on I realized that I was guilty of the same shit I accused republicans of doing. These days I do not hold out hope that any politician can do a damned thing except kowtow to the rich sociopaths who put them in office.
The real answer is to abandon conventional politics as a lost cause and be prepared to get in the faces of authority and say, fuck you, all of you, every single one of you. Only a truly anti-authoritarian person has any hope of not inadvertently supporting the nonsense machine.
Indeed. STOMP on them like you would any snake.Clearly, blind partisanship and prejudice against our fellow Americans isn't working (Republicans and Democrats both are guilty). A broken people cannot act as one (just look to the middle east for proof). Perhaps compromise is the solution.
Are there any issues you would mind compromising on for the sake of this country's future, be it economical, social, or religious?
Republicans have been compromising with Democrats for 100 years. That's how we got into this fix. The solution is to defeat the Democrats, not compromise with them.
Republicans are 90% white.
Kind of says how the nation is divided.
Let's start with that. So what if a certain percentage of Republicans are white and a certain % of Dems are blah blah blah? Why should race matter in the first place? I have known many black people who are intelligent and I have known many whites to be intelligent as well. Both races are equally capable of coming to the table and bargaining on a solution to the nation's issues.
BTW, whites make up 72.4 % of the U.S' population. An abnormally large percentage of whites is to be expected.
Republicans are 90% white.
Kind of says how the nation is divided.
Are you seriously trying to argue that racist, segregated America in 1942 was taken over by the "far left"? That's brilliant. What was "far left" about ending the Holocaust? Because America could not have won WWII without legalizing Cannabis Sativa. Legal "Marihuana" made ropes for our ships, parachute rigging for our paratroopers, and boot laces and uniforms for our soldiers. How would the Navy have functioned without rigging? How would our paratroopers have survived jumping out of airplanes without their parachutes? Could our soldiers have stormed all of those beaches if they were naked and barefoot?Please say that you're joking. This response is all too common and I can't look into your eyes to see if you're serious or not.
Marijuana has never caused a single overdose or case of lung cancer, and marijuana has been used as medicine on every continent for over 3,000 years, so the US government passed the Controlled Substances Act of 1970 which declares that marijuana is a dangerous narcotic that cannot be used as a medicine.
The National Institutes of Health says on their cancer website that marijuana has been used as medicine for 3,000 years while the DEA's official website says that marijuana can't be used as medicine at all. It seems like there should be a compromise in there.
It is all far left propaganda.
It is also one of the very few things the far left does not want to regulate or control.
Yes, historical fact is all just "far left propaganda".
Racist, segregated America was not "taken over by the far left" because if real far left Progressives had ever been in office then it wouldn't have taken until 1964 for black people to get the right to vote.Are you seriously trying to argue that racist, segregated America in 1942 was taken over by the "far left"? That's brilliant. What was "far left" about ending the Holocaust? Because America could not have won WWII without legalizing Cannabis Sativa. Legal "Marihuana" made ropes for our ships, parachute rigging for our paratroopers, and boot laces and uniforms for our soldiers. How would the Navy have functioned without rigging? How would our paratroopers have survived jumping out of airplanes without their parachutes? Could our soldiers have stormed all of those beaches if they were naked and barefoot?It is all far left propaganda.
It is also one of the very few things the far left does not want to regulate or control.
Yes, historical fact is all just "far left propaganda".
What do you mean racist, segregated America in 1942 was taken over by the far left? The far left created racist, segregated America. It was far left President Woodrow Wilson who resegregated the nation. And it was by studying the propaganda from the Wilson administration that the National Socialists were able to develop their own propaganda to begin the Holocaust.
As for Marijuana. I don't care. With all the problems are society has, worrying about Marijuana is a complete waste of time. Anyone who prioritizes Marijuana as important is asleep at the wheel.
Also, suggesting that without marijuana products our soldiers would have been naked and barefoot is absurd. People were clothes and footwear today that are not made with marijuana.
Considering the range of social concerns in contemporary America, marihuana does not, in our considered judgment, rank very high. We would deemphasize marihuana as a problem.
The existing social and legal policy is out of proportion to the individual and social harm engendered by the use of the drug. To replace it, we have attempted to design a suitable social policy, which we believe is fair, cautious and attuned to the social realities of our time.
Marijuana and Social Policy
^One of MANY USMB Racists^Republicans are 90% white.
Kind of says how the nation is divided.
^One of MANY USMB Racists^Republicans are 90% white.
Kind of says how the nation is divided.
Racist, segregated America was not "taken over by the far left" because if real far left Progressives had ever been in office then it wouldn't have taken until 1964 for black people to get the right to vote.Are you seriously trying to argue that racist, segregated America in 1942 was taken over by the "far left"? That's brilliant. What was "far left" about ending the Holocaust? Because America could not have won WWII without legalizing Cannabis Sativa. Legal "Marihuana" made ropes for our ships, parachute rigging for our paratroopers, and boot laces and uniforms for our soldiers. How would the Navy have functioned without rigging? How would our paratroopers have survived jumping out of airplanes without their parachutes? Could our soldiers have stormed all of those beaches if they were naked and barefoot?
Yes, historical fact is all just "far left propaganda".
What do you mean racist, segregated America in 1942 was taken over by the far left? The far left created racist, segregated America. It was far left President Woodrow Wilson who resegregated the nation. And it was by studying the propaganda from the Wilson administration that the National Socialists were able to develop their own propaganda to begin the Holocaust.
As for Marijuana. I don't care. With all the problems are society has, worrying about Marijuana is a complete waste of time. Anyone who prioritizes Marijuana as important is asleep at the wheel.
Also, suggesting that without marijuana products our soldiers would have been naked and barefoot is absurd. People were clothes and footwear today that are not made with marijuana.
You seem to have a different definition of "far left" than everyone else on Earth, because there was nothing "leftist" or "progressive" about Woodrow Wilson, the Nazi party or segregation. Where do you even come up with that? Let me guess. The Heritage Foundation, right? Leftist liberal progressives don't believe in genocide or separating races. Why? Because We the People are all one race- the human race. It's psychotic to think otherwise in the 21st century, just as it is psychotic to think that Liberal means Communist or Progressive means Fascist. Of course, it's probably impossible to explain it to GOP voters, but let's try anyway.
What policies of Woodrow Wilson's can you cite to justify calling him a "liberal"? If Wilson was so liberal, then why weren't black people allowed to vote until 1964? And what could the Nazi party in Germany have possibly done to make you think that they were "leftist"? Was it the series of extermination camps? Since when do Progressives believe in extermination camps? They don't. Why? Because exterminating people isn't PROGRESS. Ending genocide, slavery and oppression is what true Progressives believe in, so therefore the Nazi party couldn't have been "Progressive".
As for your statement about "marijuana isn't as important as other issues", that was the closing argument of the 1972 National Commission on Marihuana and Drug Abuse when they told Nixon to decriminalize Cannabis. Here's the exact quote:
Considering the range of social concerns in contemporary America, marihuana does not, in our considered judgment, rank very high. We would deemphasize marihuana as a problem.
The existing social and legal policy is out of proportion to the individual and social harm engendered by the use of the drug. To replace it, we have attempted to design a suitable social policy, which we believe is fair, cautious and attuned to the social realities of our time.
Marijuana and Social Policy
Nixon thought the report was going to be the final proof that marijuana is dangerous, so when this report came out and advised legalization, he ramped up the war on drugs. The war on drugs has since cost the taxpayers over a trillion dollars needlessly, it has been the number one excuse for implementing the American police state, there is more marijuana now than ever before, and NO ONE HAS DIED FROM USING IT. Not one person has ever overdosed on weed. The only people who die because of marijuana is if they are either shot by a cop or a drug lord, and that problem is solved by legalizing it and letting people grow it for themselves.
Instead, "small government fiscal conservatives" want to spend billions of dollars each year on raiding homes with heavily-armed SWAT teams to lock up thousands of free Americans over the same plant that stopped "liberal, leftist Commie Progressive" Hitler.
Get a clue.
^One of MANY USMB Racists^Republicans are 90% white.
Kind of says how the nation is divided.
When did pointing out the truth become "racist"? The endless "blacks are stupid" and "blacks are ugly" threads? You don't think it's left wingers posting those, do you?
ahhhhh..., spoken by a true liberal commie, every time we Conservatives and some Republicans compromise with liberals we lose some more freedoms, e.g., liberal whiney cry babies said: "we just want you to stop smoking on airplanes", we did, then come the restaurant, "smoking or non smoking", now look at where smokers are today, smokers are the worst kind of human being there ever was.
gun control, there was a time (any period pre 1950) when a 12 y.o. boy/girl could walk into their local general store, buy a .22 rifle and a box of ammo and go squirrel hunting on his way home from school. today if a 12 y.o. boy/girl points their finger and says "BANG", instantly he/she is expelled from school and not allowed to return till a full psychological evaluation is made.
fucking liberals/democrats/RINOS have ruined this once great country.
Since when did registered Republicans who voted Mitt become liberal commies? When did watching Fox News as your source of keeping up to date on the world become commie? When did being a pro-life Catholic become commie? When did being pro 2nd amendment make you a liberal cry baby? When did not giving a damn if kids said "Bang" and made hand-signs make you a country ruining RINO?
I may uphold Right values, but something isn't working. It is not just the left (although they are slightly more to blame than the right). Both sides need to come to the table and stop worrying about their pocketbooks instead of the freedom and prosperity of the nation.
How is that being a leftie?
And I was born in 1990, so I have no idea what the 50s were like.
So you are a low info voter that voted for Obama twice.
The US spends over $20b each year to arrest and prosecute marijuana offenses, and then imports millions of dollars of hemp products from China, and cuts down trees for paper and construction, and dumps chemical pollution into public lakes and rivers, and lies to the entire world to start wars for easier access to petroleum, and grows more corn for fuel than for food.
All of these problems can be alleviated by legalizing marijuana again like we did to save the world from the Axis of Evil. American hemp will replace Chinese hemp (BECAUSE IT'S THE SAME PLANT), hemp will replace forests for paper and building materials, hemp will replace corn for ethanol production, hemp will replace petrochemicals for plastics, and marijuana will help lower medical costs and cure cancer.
Let's compromise on this. Is that even possible? Can fiscally conservative Republicans compromise by admitting that the drug war is a trillion-dollar failure that undermines American liberty and it never should have started in the first place?
ahhhhh..., spoken by a true liberal commie, every time we Conservatives and some Republicans compromise with liberals we lose some more freedoms, e.g., liberal whiney cry babies said: "we just want you to stop smoking on airplanes", we did, then come the restaurant, "smoking or non smoking", now look at where smokers are today, smokers are the worst kind of human being there ever was.
gun control, there was a time (any period pre 1950) when a 12 y.o. boy/girl could walk into their local general store, buy a .22 rifle and a box of ammo and go squirrel hunting on his way home from school. today if a 12 y.o. boy/girl points their finger and says "BANG", instantly he/she is expelled from school and not allowed to return till a full psychological evaluation is made.
fucking liberals/democrats/RINOS have ruined this once great country.
Since when did registered Republicans who voted Mitt become liberal commies? When did watching Fox News as your source of keeping up to date on the world become commie? When did being a pro-life Catholic become commie? When did being pro 2nd amendment make you a liberal cry baby? When did not giving a damn if kids said "Bang" and made hand-signs make you a country ruining RINO?
I may uphold Right values, but something isn't working. It is not just the left (although they are slightly more to blame than the right). Both sides need to come to the table and stop worrying about their pocketbooks instead of the freedom and prosperity of the nation.
How is that being a leftie?
And I was born in 1990, so I have no idea what the 50s were like.[/QUOTE]
i am guessing that is why you are asking all these stupid, "when did...", "why did..." questions, when you get at least 50 years worth of historical knowledge under your skull cap, come back and discuss..., thank you. ::up
When you study ancient history and have several thousand years of experience, come back and discuss.
And I can't help how old I am any more than you can.
Age does not always equal wisdom.
Some of the responses in this topic are proof that certain factions in both parties have no interest in compromise of any kind. It's not enough that the opposition be seen political rivals you can work with. They are enemies from within, meant to be crushed. The good news is political message boards bring out the extremes on both sides. The posters here in no way represent the average American voter.
aaron, would you really like to know why my opposition needs crushing ? http://www.commieblaster.com/
and here is another one,
http://cpc.grijalva.house.gov/
after you have perused those sites you will see..., maybe, why the liberal/democRAT regimes need defeated on all fronts........., OK?
Clearly, blind partisanship and prejudice against our fellow Americans isn't working (Republicans and Democrats both are guilty). A broken people cannot act as one (just look to the middle east for proof). Perhaps compromise is the solution.
Are there any issues you would mind compromising on for the sake of this country's future, be it economical, social, or religious?
Republicans have been compromising with Democrats for 100 years. That's how we got into this fix. The solution is to defeat the Democrats, not compromise with them.
