Five Alive: Constitutional Convention being explored by states

[JoeB131]

Why bother? If you had cancer and the cure was sitting in front of you, would you refuse to take it?

We do have a cure to debt. It's called 'Making the rich pay their fair share".

Works every time it's tried.

What is the rich's fair share?

what they were paying before Reagan was perfectly fine.

 

[BluesLegend]

A BBA won't fix the problem, the problem is millions of Americans thinking its okay to sit around on their fat asses sucking on government hand outs. That and puke communist liberals who wreck everything they touch.

 

[Derideo_Te]

Why bother? If you had cancer and the cure was sitting in front of you, would you refuse to take it?

We do have a cure to debt. It's called 'Making the rich pay their fair share".

Works every time it's tried.

What is the rich's fair share?

Whatever it takes to not have a deficit and to pay down the national debt over the next 50 years.

 

[JoeB131]

A BBA won't fix the problem, the problem is millions of Americans thinking its okay to sit around on their fat asses sucking on government hand outs. That and puke communist liberals who wreck everything they touch.

Okay, how many Americans do you think are actually doing that?

Let's put aside that 40% of households using SNAP (food stamps) have at least one family member who is employed, and most of the recipiants are children and the elderly, people we don't expect to work to start with.

It strikes me that when you allow employers to pay poverty wages where people can barely make ends meet, you eventually end up having to subsidize them.

 

[The Rabbi]

Why bother? If you had cancer and the cure was sitting in front of you, would you refuse to take it?

We do have a cure to debt. It's called 'Making the rich pay their fair share".

Works every time it's tried.

The rich pay over 100% of income taxes. "Their fair share" would mean reducing their tax burden. And you are right: That does work every time.
The poeple getting away with murder are the bottom 47% of wage earners who get more back than they pay in.

 

[The Rabbi]

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I'd sure love to see a BBA, but it would force the liars in DC to directly justify their taxing & spending initiatives on both sides.

Imagine for a moment how much political influence would be lost.

Probably wishful thinking, I'm afraid.

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Might be wishful thinking, but, the seeds are being sewn. When the states speak, Washington will be forced to listen. Just watch and see what happens.

You're incredibly naive.

The right always thinks bigger government is the answer.

That's why the Right engineered Dodd-Frank,Obamacare, and other huge programs? Dummy.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

A BBA won't fix the problem, the problem is millions of Americans thinking its okay to sit around on their fat asses sucking on government hand outs. That and puke communist liberals who wreck everything they touch.

Obviously you're unaware of how ridiculous this is.

Just as ridiculous as a BBA.

 

[JoeB131]

The rich pay over 100% of income taxes. "Their fair share" would mean reducing their tax burden. And you are right: That does work every time.
The poeple getting away with murder are the bottom 47% of wage earners who get more back than they pay in.

Uh, guy, seriously, how can they pay 100% of income taxes? Do you even think these things through before you type them down.

The bottom 47% include children and the elderly.

Oh, by the way, Supply Side doesn't work. Never has, never will. Didn't work when Reagan did it. Didn't work when Bush did it.

 

[The Rabbi]

The rich pay over 100% of income taxes. "Their fair share" would mean reducing their tax burden. And you are right: That does work every time.
The poeple getting away with murder are the bottom 47% of wage earners who get more back than they pay in.

Uh, guy, seriously, how can they pay 100% of income taxes? Do you even think these things through before you type them down.

The bottom 47% include children and the elderly.

Oh, by the way, Supply Side doesn't work. Never has, never will. Didn't work when Reagan did it. Didn't work when Bush did it.

Do I need to post this link yet again, for the 10th time, or will you just admit I'm right?
Chidlren and the elderly arent generally wage earners. Your powers of reading suck, along with everything else about you.
Supply side, which you cannot define, works 100% of the time. Worked under Reagan. Worked for Bush in the Clinton Recession.

 

[The Rabbi]

Personally I'd like to see an amendment redefinign the Commerce Clause to reign in federal power. The Commerce Clause and its abuse have been the root of way too much bad policy in this country.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

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I'd sure love to see a BBA, but it would force the liars in DC to directly justify their taxing & spending initiatives on both sides.

Imagine for a moment how much political influence would be lost.

Probably wishful thinking, I'm afraid.

.

Might be wishful thinking, but, the seeds are being sewn. When the states speak, Washington will be forced to listen. Just watch and see what happens.

You're incredibly naive.

The right always thinks bigger government is the answer.

That's why the Right engineered Dodd-Frank,Obamacare, and other huge programs? Dummy.

The right squandered a budget surplus, started two failed, illegal wars, and expanded the size and authority of the Federal government creating a massive deficit – all to the tune of billions of wasted dollars.

The last thing we need is conservative 'fiscal responsibility.'

 

[Derideo_Te]

The rich pay over 100% of income taxes.

 

[Freewill]

Why bother? If you had cancer and the cure was sitting in front of you, would you refuse to take it?

We do have a cure to debt. It's called 'Making the rich pay their fair share".

Works every time it's tried.

What is the rich's fair share?

Whatever it takes to not have a deficit and to pay down the national debt over the next 50 years.

So you don't really know you just think more. You are like the a wife who spends and spends and tells her husband just to go out and earn more money. With the mindset of the liberal left there NEVER will be enough money.

So paying the majority isn't enough. But you are right, to keep on with the wreck less spending of Washington the rich will have to pay more because they are the ones with the money. :

The rich pay majority of U.S. income taxes

Many people think that the rich are able to weasel their way out of taxes, but they actually pay an overwhelming majority of the taxes in the United States.
What's more, their share of the tax burden is increasing.

 

[BluesLegend]

A BBA won't fix the problem, the problem is millions of Americans thinking its okay to sit around on their fat asses sucking on government hand outs. That and puke communist liberals who wreck everything they touch.

Okay, how many Americans do you think are actually doing that?

Let's put aside that 40% of households using SNAP (food stamps) have at least one family member who is employed, and most of the recipiants are children and the elderly, people we don't expect to work to start with.

It strikes me that when you allow employers to pay poverty wages where people can barely make ends meet, you eventually end up having to subsidize them.

^^^ perfect example of the mentality I'm talking about. Will you liberal please pull your heads out of your asses. Stop pinning your hopes on wealth redistribution there's not enough wealth to redistribute to solve the problem, for fucks sake. You have to generate 'new' wealth and a LOT of it. Meanwhile most liberal idiots are busy passing laws and regulations that only make it more difficult to generate jobs and new wealth. Talk about a death spiral, you bunch of dumb asses have the nation on a path to tail spin into the ground with your policies, regulations, and non-stop tax and borrow and spend BS.

 

[JoeB131]

Do I need to post this link yet again, for the 10th time, or will you just admit I'm right?
Chidlren and the elderly arent generally wage earners. Your powers of reading suck, along with everything else about you.
Supply side, which you cannot define, works 100% of the time. Worked under Reagan. Worked for Bush in the Clinton Recession.

NO, it really didn't. the 2001 recession was a WORLD WIDE recession caused by an overabundence of inventories in a global economy. Bush's giveaway to the rich really didn't help at all. First, GDP Growth was back before the first of them even hit.

What actually helped was after 9/11, Bush borrowed a bunch of money to pay for war materials.

 

[JoeB131]

So you don't really know you just think more. You are like the a wife who spends and spends and tells her husband just to go out and earn more money. With the mindset of the liberal left there NEVER will be enough money.

So paying the majority isn't enough. But you are right, to keep on with the wreck less spending of Washington the rich will have to pay more because they are the ones with the money. :

The problem with your graph is that the to 10% control 80% of the wealth, so them paying 70% of the income tax is not them paying their fair share.
You also neglect that the bottom 90% get socked hard by Social Security, State Income and Medicare Taxes, along with sales taxes and property taxes.

 

[Derideo_Te]

Why bother? If you had cancer and the cure was sitting in front of you, would you refuse to take it?

We do have a cure to debt. It's called 'Making the rich pay their fair share".

Works every time it's tried.

What is the rich's fair share?

Whatever it takes to not have a deficit and to pay down the national debt over the next 50 years.

So you don't really know you just think more. You are like the a wife who spends and spends and tells her husband just to go out and earn more money. With the mindset of the liberal left there NEVER will be enough money.

So paying the majority isn't enough. But you are right, to keep on with the wreck less spending of Washington the rich will have to pay more because they are the ones with the money. :

The rich pay majority of U.S. income taxes

Many people think that the rich are able to weasel their way out of taxes, but they actually pay an overwhelming majority of the taxes in the United States.
What's more, their share of the tax burden is increasing.

So you swallow the Libertarian Koolaid without ever bothering to question the source of the disinformation.

Taxes are the price we pay to live in a civilized society. Oliver Wendell Holmes.

The out of control spending in this nation is driven by warmongering. Slash that spending in half and return to tax rates that existed before redink Reagan started implementing the failed Libertarian fiscal dogma and we will be back to normal again.

And start giving hardworking Americans pay raises again. That will improve the economy and create jobs. Too bad your "job creators" never fulfilled their side of the bargain when you gave them those massive taxcut welfare handouts that they didn't need.

 

[JoeB131]

perfect example of the mentality I'm talking about. Will you liberal please pull your heads out of your asses. Stop pinning your hopes on wealth redistribution there's not enough wealth to redistribute to solve the problem, for fucks sake. You have to generate 'new' wealth and a LOT of it. Meanwhile most liberal idiots are busy passing laws and regulations that only make it more difficult to generate jobs and new wealth. Talk about a death spiral, you bunch of dumb asses have the nation on a path to tail spin into the ground with your policies, regulations, and non-stop tax and borrow and spend BS.

Why didn't you answer my question?

Here it is again.

How many Americans do you really think are " [sitting] around on their fat asses sucking on government hand outs."

Put a number to it. And don't include children or the elderly. How many Americans do you think are out there, who are able bodied and could work who are just collecting food stamps and Obama-phones.

Actually, there's plenty of wealth to redistribute. the GDP of this country is 18 Trillion. Dividing that by 300 million Americans would allot $60,000 to every man woman and child in the country. A family of four would make $240,000 if they got their equal share of that.

No one is proposing that, of course. That would be silly.

But it's equally silly to think that 1% of the population having 43% of that 18 trillion is fine and dandy as well. They certainly didn't do the physical labor to create said wealth. someone else did.

 

[occupied]

Why bother? If you had cancer and the cure was sitting in front of you, would you refuse to take it?

We do have a cure to debt. It's called 'Making the rich pay their fair share".

Works every time it's tried.

What is the rich's fair share?

Whatever it takes to not have a deficit and to pay down the national debt over the next 50 years.

So you don't really know you just think more. You are like the a wife who spends and spends and tells her husband just to go out and earn more money. With the mindset of the liberal left there NEVER will be enough money.

So paying the majority isn't enough. But you are right, to keep on with the wreck less spending of Washington the rich will have to pay more because they are the ones with the money. :

The rich pay majority of U.S. income taxes

Many people think that the rich are able to weasel their way out of taxes, but they actually pay an overwhelming majority of the taxes in the United States.
What's more, their share of the tax burden is increasing.

They make most of the income so it's only right that they pay most of the income taxes. What you plutocrat toadies ignore is that working people pay most of the local and state revenue and especially in red states it's getting more regressive every year. You guys never want to go after the people with the most money to spare and instead nickle-and-dime the working class into the poor house in spite of the fact that their income has declined.

 

[Kosh]

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I'd sure love to see a BBA, but it would force the liars in DC to directly justify their taxing & spending initiatives on both sides.

Imagine for a moment how much political influence would be lost.

Probably wishful thinking, I'm afraid.

.

Might be wishful thinking, but, the seeds are being sewn. When the states speak, Washington will be forced to listen. Just watch and see what happens.

You're incredibly naive.

The right always thinks bigger government is the answer.

That's why the Right engineered Dodd-Frank,Obamacare, and other huge programs? Dummy.

The right squandered a budget surplus, started two failed, illegal wars, and expanded the size and authority of the Federal government creating a massive deficit – all to the tune of billions of wasted dollars.

The last thing we need is conservative 'fiscal responsibility.'

Says the irony impaired far left drone that supports Obama's illegal wars and far left spending without restrictions..