First Venezuela and now Iran...Who is Next?

[scruffy]

That's twice now we have totally disabled Chinese made air defenses.

I suppose like everything else Chinese, they're meant to be disposable.

Just buy another one, maybe it'll work better.

 

[JohnDB]

You people are the most gullible people I've ever encountered in my life. You believe everything the government tells you. (As long as they have the right letter by their name, of course.)

We have been lied to about nearly every single war....and that's demonstrably true! But now they're telling the truth?

But setting that aside, it's not our ******* job to impose our will on other sovereign nations. It's not our job to invade other countries, forcibly remove their leaders (who just so happen to not be using the petrodollar btw) and to install Empire-approved puppet presidents. It's not our job to steal other country's resources, and it's not our job to be the self-appointed world's policeman. That is psychopath behavior.

You're believing lies and propaganda, plain and simple.

Oh, and I'm anti-communist, but that's not what this is about. Turn off the damn TV.

That's kinda naive thinking.

You are always going to have governments that are going to fight with other governments.
It's a design feature of the human race.

Death and taxes are constants.
This world is advanced enough for you to go anywhere you want.
However,
Your opinion is not always allowed to be expressed....choose wisely.

 

[MisterBeale]

It was a paradise before Castro ruined it.

Bullshit.

It was the headquarters for American organized crime.

 

[Hafar1014]

Cuba is next as their oil will be cut off and their economy will collapse

 

[JWBooth]

You people are the most gullible people I've ever encountered in my life. You believe everything the government tells you. (As long as they have the right letter by their name, of course.)

We have been lied to about nearly every single war....and that's demonstrably true! But now they're telling the truth?

But setting that aside, it's not our ******* job to impose our will on other sovereign nations. It's not our job to invade other countries, forcibly remove their leaders (who just so happen to not be using the petrodollar btw) and to install Empire-approved puppet presidents. It's not our job to steal other country's resources, and it's not our job to be the self-appointed world's policeman. That is psychopath behavior.

You're believing lies and propaganda, plain and simple.

Oh, and I'm anti-communist, but that's not what this is about. Turn off the damn TV.

As long as they are comfortable and personally unbothered the antics of the annoying orange are a WWF level amusement. Granted they have the adolescent’s level of discernment and a mouth breathing, knuckle dragging, booger eating, dullard’s depth of thinking, and their only recourse is to assume and accuse any opposition of being on the extreme opposite end of their narrow spectrum.
Take heart and adopt the collapsatarian view that whatever brings the end of the empire closer is a good thing. What we are dealing with are not the days of Augustus, Hadrian, Aurelius, or Trajan, but a Commodus or Caracalla.

It is, after all, a distraction, bread and circuses for the masses while all around them crumbles.

 

[MisterBeale]

Our government is thoroughly corrupt...and not just on one side of the aisle, on both sides of the aisle. And they have a track record of lying, especially when it comes to war, regime change, etc. So this is not about "spreading democracy" or spreading "freedom".... that's just how they're selling it to the public.

If you want to see ONE of the reasons why this is happening, please watch this video. But it has to be watched the whole way through, because he doesn't immediately state the point.

The worst ramifications of all this, are of course, the increased prospect for a global war.

I am starting to think all these thoroughly propagandized folks are eager for the end of the world and a collapsed economy?

It makes one think that none of them have ever even learned about history.

Some of the same folks that condemned Russia's meddling in Ukraine, think this is a justified violation of national sovereignty?

The stupidity of the state propaganda, and thus, the insanity on this forum is reaching ever greater heights. I didn't think that was possible.
. . . but that is how fascism works.

Larry Johnson: U.S. War on Venezuela Has Global Ramifications​

1 day ago

 

[JoeB131]

sad buttercup that does not think the most FREE country in world wants other countries to have the same level of freedom

you like communism and dictators, got it.......N. Korea wants you as their puppet

move and enjoy no freedom as a peasant subject

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Fred Thompson only sounded smart when Dick Wolf wrote lines for him.

Afghanistan, Iraq, Vietnam, these were screwups. Period.

 

[scruffy]

The worst ramifications of all this, are of course, the increased prospect for a global war.

I am starting to think all these thoroughly propagandized folks are eager for the end of the world and a collapsed economy?

It makes one think that none of them have ever even learned about history.

Some of the same folks that condemned Russia's meddling in Ukraine, think this is a justified violation of national sovereignty?

The stupidity of the state propaganda, and thus, the insanity on this forum is reaching ever greater heights. I didn't think that was possible.
. . . but that is how fascism works.

Larry Johnson: U.S. War on Venezuela Has Global Ramifications​

1 day ago

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They said all that same crap after Noriega too.

 

[MisterBeale]

They said all that same crap after Noriega too.

Oh yeah? Do you have a link to that?

 

[JohnDB]

The worst ramifications of all this, are of course, the increased prospect for a global war.

I am starting to think all these thoroughly propagandized folks are eager for the end of the world and a collapsed economy?

It makes one think that none of them have ever even learned about history.

Some of the same folks that condemned Russia's meddling in Ukraine, think this is a justified violation of national sovereignty?

The stupidity of the state propaganda, and thus, the insanity on this forum is reaching ever greater heights. I didn't think that was possible.
. . . but that is how fascism works.

Larry Johnson: U.S. War on Venezuela Has Global Ramifications​

1 day ago

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This is a huge amount of rhetoric. A spec of truth the size of a grain of sand but mountains of lies.

It wasn't an invasion, it was an arrest. Huge difference. There are no US troops creating forward bases for occupation in Venezuela today. There are CCP officials wondering how their radar systems that supposedly can detect stealth aircraft failed to detect even our helicopters that arrested Maduro.

Currently our troops are massing around Iran to save the people from their government.

 

[MisterBeale]

A spec of truth the size of a grain of sand but mountains of lies.

Nope, not at all.

Other nations act as they see us acting.

The invasions of Ukraine, and now Taiwan have now been authorized by this action.

Currently our troops are massing around Iran to save the people from their government.

It is not the job of the American tax-payer to fund the manipulation of political actives in other nations. The Constitution does not authorize such activity.

This action is, prima facie, a violation of national sovereignty. Violations of national sovereignty have, for centuries, been considered an act of war.

If we do it, that justifies other nations doing the same.

The US government engaging in such sordid activity is but one more of the numerous international crimes it has committed, and yet another black mark on America's history of imperialism.

 

[JWBooth]

Currently our troops are massing around Iran to save the people from their government.

What a load of bootlicker crap.
Iran doesn’t bend the knee and that is all there is to it.

 

[JohnDB]

Nope, not at all.

Other nations act as they see us acting.

The invasions of Ukraine, and now Taiwan have now been authorized by this action.


It is not the job of the American tax-payer to fund the manipulation of political actives in other nations. The Constitution does not authorize such activity.

This action is, prima facie, a violation of national sovereignty. Violations of national sovereignty have, for centuries, been considered an act of war.

If we do it, that justifies other nations doing the same.

The US government engaging in such sordid activity is but one more of the numerous international crimes it has committed, and yet another black mark on America's history of imperialism.

So....
If someone steals the government away from the citizenry and the people beg for help from us, we should ignore the people?

 

[DennisPTate]

The news today is full of Venezuela.
What has slipped notice is that the Iatollah of Iran has escaped the country. The Capital city is under seize of protesters....police and military were not involved in suppressing anything after threats from Trump warned them.

But isn't forcing the leadership of Iran to move out of Iran a logical first step in assisting sincere people to end up in power in Iran?

Everybody who demonstrated in the streets of Iran showed great courage to do so, so obviously with that much courage being displayed by Iranians, we know that a political shift is coming there, [God of Abraham willing]?

 

[MisterBeale]

we should ignore the people?

Of course. We should ignore all the planet's "needs," except those of the American people. . . as the founders warned us to.

 

[JWBooth]

But isn't forcing the leadership of Iran to move out of Iran a logical first step in assisting sincere people to end up in power in Iran?

Everybody who demonstrated in the streets of Iran showed great courage to do so, so obviously with that much courage being displayed by Iranians, we know that a political shift is coming there, [God of Abraham willing]?

The only 'sincere people' the US government is interested in installing in power are puppets and satraps.

 

[JWBooth]

So....
If someone steals the government away from the citizenry and the people beg for help from us, we should ignore the people?

Absolutely.

 

[dudmuck]

Maduro wasn't "kidnapped" at all. There was a lawful indictment issued against him and his old lady.

Just a routine apprehension by law enforcement.

 

[MisterBeale]

Maduro wasn't "kidnapped" at all. There was a lawful indictment issued against him and his old lady.

Just a routine apprehension by law enforcement.

So if China "apprehends," Donald Trump for an indictment in Chinese courts for violating speech regulations of the CCP. . . that would just be, "routine apprehension by law enforcement?"




Dude, do you seriously not understand the concept of sovereignty, or are you implying that Venezuela is one of the territories of the U.S.?

sovereignty

www.law.cornell.edu

 

[JohnDB]

But isn't forcing the leadership of Iran to move out of Iran a logical first step in assisting sincere people to end up in power in Iran?

Everybody who demonstrated in the streets of Iran showed great courage to do so, so obviously with that much courage being displayed by Iranians, we know that a political shift is coming there, [God of Abraham willing]?

We know exactly who they want as leader....its not exactly a secret or surprise.