First Venezuela and now Iran...Who is Next?

[frigidweirdo]

North Korea?

Not a chance. China will not allow it.

 

[egp320i]

Our government is thoroughly corrupt...and not just on one side of the aisle, on both sides of the aisle. And they have a track record of lying, especially when it comes to war, regime change, etc. So this is not about "spreading democracy" or spreading "freedom".... that's just how they're selling it to the public.

If you want to see ONE of the reasons why this is happening, please watch this video. But it has to be watched the whole way through, because he doesn't immediately state the point.

um, welcome to government 101, you are just figuring this out now?

no government is really FOR he people, they use us and there is
no way to break out of that mold unless you have a revolution

not sure we the people would win this one right now, it would be a long, dirty, bloodshed battle

it would also open up to be weak enough to be taken over by china or russia

 

[buttercup]

um, welcome to government 101, you are just figuring this out now?

no government is really FOR he people, they use us and there is
no way to break out of that mold unless you have a revolution

not sure we the people would win this one right now, it would be a long, dirty, bloodshed battle

it would also open up to be weak enough to be taken over by china or russia

I figured it out decades ago, YOU are the one who is believing lame recycled propaganda (that we're "spreading democracy" or "spreading freedom") so I felt it necessary to point out that you're believing thoroughly corrupt subversive liars.

I mean, if this is first rodeo, that would be one thing....but since the average age on this site seems to be something like 85, I'm assuming you're old enough to have gone through numerous wars, regime changes, etc. But evidently you haven't learned, you're still believing the same old BS designed to sell us on undeclared, unconstitutional hyperintervenionist neocon warmongering, regime changes, nation building, etc.

 

[egp320i]

I figured it out decades ago, YOU are the one who is believing lame recycled propaganda (that we're "spreading democracy" or "spreading freedom") so I felt it necessary to point out that you're believing thoroughly corrupt subversive liars.

I mean, if this is first rodeo, that would be one thing....but since the average age on this site seems to be something like 85, I'm assuming you're old enough to have gone through numerous wars, regime changes, etc. But evidently you haven't learned, you're still believing the same old BS designed to sell us on undeclared, unconstitutional hyperintervenionist neocon warmongering, regime changes, nation building, etc.

I doubt 85 but yes I have witnessed history, I don't follow some some hardcore though

so if we could free N.korea from their pain so they are like the south by just grabbing their dictator it's not worth it?

the CIA has been doing regime changes for ages, many likely without us even knowing about it

who are you to say they are against the constitution? that document is mostly for US, I am sure there is provisions in the fine print if we are threatened we can take action or in many cases help a friend to do it, that's what alliances do

 

[buttercup]

I doubt 85 but yes I have witnessed history, I don't follow some some hardcore though

so if we could free N.korea from their pain so they are like the south by just grabbing their dictator it's not worth it?

the CIA has been doing regime changes for ages, many likely without us even knowing about it

who are you to say they are against the constitution? that document is mostly for US, I am sure there is provisions in the fine print if we are threatened we can take action or in many cases help a friend to do it, that's what alliances do

Constitutionally, congress is supposed to authorize war, that power is not supposed to be vested in one person. Now before you get me wrong again, I'm not saying that what's happening now is something new...obviously our elected "leaders" have been ignoring the constitution for a long time, but it's still both unconstitutional and wrong (when it's based on lies, which it is, it always is.)

As for the other things you said, I'm sorry but you're contradicting yourself. You say you know that the government is corrupt, but I don't think you realize just how fraudulent and corrupt they are, because you turn around and talk about how maybe we could be saviors of the world, spreading freedom to everyone worldwide.

Here's the part that I don't think you or many others here get. The globalists hijacked our government (again, not just one party, both sides of the party-of-one) so everything is moving in that direction...toward world government. The NWO. It's not going to be "freedom for all", but pretty much the opposite... more authoritarianism, less individual rights, less privacy and eventually an entirely new system that is not good for ANY of us regular folk, only for the very small number of people in control at the very top.

As a few of us have been saying, what's happening now is biblical. But I don't want to get even more off topic, so I'll leave it at that.

 

[egp320i]

Constitutionally, congress is supposed to authorize war, that power is not supposed to be vested in one person. Now before you get me wrong again, I'm not saying that what's happening now is something new...obviously our elected "leaders" have been ignoring the constitution for a long time, but it's still both unconstitutional and wrong (when it's based on lies, which it is, it always is.)

As for the other things you said, I'm sorry but you're contradicting yourself. You say you know that the government is corrupt, but I don't think you realize just how fraudulent and corrupt they are, because you turn around and talk about how maybe we could be saviors of the world, spreading freedom to everyone worldwide.

Here's the part that I don't think you or many others here get. The globalists hijacked our government (again, not just one party, both sides of the party-of-one) so everything is moving in that direction...toward world government. The NWO. It's not going to be "freedom for all", but pretty much the opposite... more authoritarianism, less individual rights, less privacy and eventually an entirely new system that is not good for ANY of us regular folk, only for the very small number of people in control at the very top.

As a few of us have been saying, what's happening now is biblical. But I don't want to get even more off topic, so I'll leave it at that.

it was not an act of war, he was already on the US list as a terrorist with a warrant for his arrest from what I read

This was just a capture like that drug dealer in mexico a few years or so

just happens he was so the so called leader but he stole it

this was a CIA/seal mission

if this was illegal would they not be letting Murdoro out of prison with a free ride home with all charges dropped?

 

[buttercup]

it was not an act of war, he was already on the US list as a terrorist with a warrant for his arrest from what I read

This was just a capture like that drug dealer in mexico a few years or so

just happens he was so the so called leader but he stole it

this was a CIA/seal mission

if this was illegal would they not be letting Murdoro out of prison with a free ride home with all charges dropped?

I hear something similar to that every single time. It's always "not a war", so that whichever puppet president who happens to be in power at the time can get around congressional authorization.

Furthermore, Trump announced that we're going to stay there and take over for a while, so staying there and "rebuilding" is a bit more than a mere "seal mission."

And I'm getting tired of talking about this, but in addition to that, the point remains that it's based on lies. It's not about drugs. It's not about "freeing" the people. The powers-that-be couldn't care less about regular people, we are all expendable to them. This was about control, and the empire forcing a regime change, which they do for any political leader who doesn't play along with the empire and the petrodollar... and of course taking control of their vast resources.

 

[egp320i]

I hear something similar to that every single time. It's always "not a war", so that whichever puppet president who happens to be in power at the time can get around congressional authorization.

Furthermore, Trump announced that we're going to stay there and take over for a while, so staying there and "rebuilding" is a bit more than a mere "seal mission."

And I'm getting tired of talking about this, but in addition to that, the point remains that it's based on lies. It's not about drugs. It's not about "freeing" the people. The powers-that-be couldn't care less about regular people, we are all expendable to them. This was about control, and the empire forcing a regime change, which they do for any political leader who doesn't play along with the empire and the petrodollar.

what you hear and what they do might not align

we removed him, no reason to stay, we set up power to the right person

sure we get oil but they need real experts like mobil and chevron to fix all the broken wells, etc

that costs $$, just watch landman at home it costs

they are free, we get some oil with a deal, win-win

plus this does not go to china, russia or any other asshole country on our list

I don't see any problem at all, it will all work out, just relax

 

[frigidweirdo]

um, welcome to government 101, you are just figuring this out now?

no government is really FOR he people, they use us and there is
no way to break out of that mold unless you have a revolution

not sure we the people would win this one right now, it would be a long, dirty, bloodshed battle

it would also open up to be weak enough to be taken over by china or russia

But there are better forms of government, like Proportional Representation, which allow the people far more power over their governments, and lead to better politicians.

The rich don't like that, so they don't tell people, and the people don't question.

 

[buttercup]

 

[scruffy]

Cuba is harmless except insofar as they trans-ship drugs for other countries. Venezuela was their biggest supplier, that's over now.

 

[buttercup]

Cuba is harmless except insofar as they trans-ship drugs for other countries. Venezuela was their biggest supplier, that's over now.

Tell that to Lindsey Graham. He's hinting about regime change in Cuba, in addition to other countries they've been talking about. As I just posted on another thread, all of this is looking more and more like the long standing plan of the globalists and the technocrats.

 

[scruffy]

Tell that to Lindsey Graham. He's hinting about regime change in Cuba, in addition to other countries they've been talking about. As I just posted on another thread, all of this is looking more and more like the long standing plan of the globalists and the technocrats.

Meh... Lindsey is a Neo-Con and he doesn't control anything.

 

[scruffy]

As I just posted on another thread, all of this is looking more and more like the long standing plan of the globalists and the technocrats.

Keep an eye on Iran. Things are moving fast over there. Khamenei may flee to Russia. Him and Delcy can shack up with Bassar.

If Venezuela and Iran become cosmopolitan again, then China just lost 50% of its cheap Western oil. The primary truth about China is it needs to be contained, and that will certainly help.

 

[justoffal]

Columbia is likely on the list...
Mexico gets an honorable mention (cartels are running things there)
Canada might face some severe tarrifs if they don't get their stuff figured out. Alberta is getting preference over the other states. (Because they aren't too dumb to figure it out).

Oh boy our local lefties are going to be weeping, sobbing and gnashing their teeth.....
America is winning which means they are losing.

 

[eagle1462010]

Our government is thoroughly corrupt...and not just on one side of the aisle, on both sides of the aisle. And they have a track record of lying, especially when it comes to war, regime change, etc. So this is not about "spreading democracy" or spreading "freedom".... that's just how they're selling it to the public.

If you want to see ONE of the reasons why this is happening, please watch this video. But it has to be watched the whole way through, because he doesn't immediately state the point.

Which is better for Venezuala? A Dictator who kills all opposition and caysed 8 million people to flee or a return to being Free before these assholes took power?

The people there are abroad are CHEERING. Let that sink in. Oil? Well that remains to be seen if we seize any?


Iran? This is an internal revolution.

 

[justoffal]

Where do you get your news?

He just doesn't like what's going on so he's going to ***** about it. You have to vet everything you read these days.... But for anyone to think that Twitter is any worse than traditional international media sources only means they haven't been paying attention to anything.

 

[justoffal]

Which is better for Venezuala? A Dictator who kills all opposition and caysed 8 million people to flee or a return to being Free before these assholes took power?

The people there are abroad are CHEERING. Let that sink in. Oil? Well that remains to be seen if we seize any?


Iran? This is an internal revolution.

China is funding most of the antidisestablishment media noise right now. None of what is happening is good for China so you're going to see a tremendous amount of money pour into negative coverage of the administration because of what's happening. Problem with the American public is that they pay more attention to dancing with the stars when they do to the more important political news that affects their future. When somebody like Whoopi Goldberg actually matters the country is pretty much fucked.

 

[eagle1462010]

China is funding most of the antidisestablishment media noise right now. None of what is happening is good for China so you're going to see a tremendous amount of money pour into negative coverage of the administration because of what's happening. Problem with the American public is that they pay more attention to dancing with the stars when they do to the more important political news that affects their future. When somebody like Whoopi Goldberg actually matters the country is pretty much fucked.

China is trying to move into our neighborhood. And they use drug lords bitches tobl do so.

They are upset that we have COUNTERED THEM.

 

[justoffal]

China is trying to move into our neighborhood. And they use drug lords bitches tobl do so.

They are upset that we have COUNTERED THEM.

China policy is to be verbally upset about everything while quietly building the world's largest war arsenal with the AIM of abandoning diplomacy altogether and simply overpowering everyone else. One of their biggest fears is that Japan will once again be unleashed to be the industrial tiger that it once was. In my opinion we have no choice but to drop all constraints on Japanese manufacturing and war machinery production.