First Grader Gives Teacher Fourth Black Eye and A Concussion

[SweetSue92]

Brought back so many memories. I believe I attacked every teacher I had starting in the 5th grade.

Yeah well, if you're around my age, the teachers could at least restrain you if not attack back.

We can't touch them now.

 

[toobfreak]

I would put them in a headlock and let them pass out and release the hold. They wouldn't mess with me again.

Likely, the kid would still do damage that way, and it wouldn't stop his behavior. Hard to say what I'd do without being there, but the only thing stopping this kid is to be knocked on his ass. Maybe use a stun gun. No way is he beating up on me. That teacher has grounds to sue the school if not the parents for subjecting her to this.

This kid is not fit for a normal environment and must be removed NOW. If I were the teacher, I would not come to work if he isn't removed then sue the school for back pay. There are drugs they can put the kid on and special environments to deal with him. Teaching is secondary now as you can't send a person like this out into society, educated or not, until the behavior is addressed.

Me, if that kid came at me with fury, my first impulse would be to side thrust kick his little ass backwards across the room.

 

[Road Runner]

Just one example of what these kids do. You cannot touch them if they're just destroying property. Or you will be sued

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Can't you sue them/their parents?

 

[SweetSue92]

I'm trying to wrap my head around how an ADULT even lets a FIRST GRADER beat them up??? That is one candy-ass teacher!
Doctor--- one of my 1st graders cracked my skull and knocked out my teeth.


Let me get this straight--- schools expel you for biting your Pop Tart into the shape of a gun, but beat the livin' bejesus out of one of their teachers and you are OK?

THEY DIDN'T LIKE THE HOMEWORK ASSIGNMENT
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Yes.

Yes, it's a terrible version of "woke"--one in which if the child has ANY issues or is "traumatized" they attack you and we're to shrug it off. This is a HUGE problem no one is paying attention to.

We are not allowed to touch or restrain the children except in emergencies. So if a child picks up a chair, you can't stop him bc that's only "destroying property". Then he hurls it at your head. Too late. Black eye.

A teacher IN MY BUILDING got a black eye from a student and she was asked what she did to provoke him.

This is the biggest reason teachers are quitting. SOmetimes in the middle of the day. Sometimes they leave their classroom during the day and never come back.

Been teaching 30+ years. Never heard of this before the last five years.

 

[toobfreak]

This happens routinely in every school I know. Not black eyes but just in my school alone, teachers have been bitten, pushed, and had hair pulled out. While you all are banging the gong about the 10 teachers who are trans, every teacher I know has been accosted. One teacher in my building was told being beat on is "part of the job".

Never was the case when I was in school! I spent seven years in public school and 2.5 in private school--- I never once saw or heard of a teacher being attacked. Kids fought with other kids.

And many of these kids are huge. I am not. I weigh well under 100 pounds. No one cares if a kid hurts any of us. Except we were recently told we can call 911, and we sure enough will.

Brass knuckles--- the great equalizer. A lot can happen waiting for 911 to show up and it is kinda hard to call the police while some kid is on top of you.

 

[Road Runner]

Yes.

Yes, it's a terrible version of "woke"--one in which if the child has ANY issues or is "traumatized" they attack you and we're to shrug it off. This is a HUGE problem no one is paying attention to.

We are not allowed to touch or restrain the children except in emergencies. So if a child picks up a chair, you can't stop him bc that's only "destroying property". Then he hurls it at your head. Too late. Black eye.

A teacher IN MY BUILDING got a black eye from a student and she was asked what she did to provoke him.

This is the biggest reason teachers are quitting. SOmetimes in the middle of the day. Sometimes they leave their classroom during the day and never come back.

Been teaching 30+ years. Never heard of this before the last five years.

Here's my suggestion of how to handle it.

 

[SweetSue92]

I would put them in a headlock and let them pass out and release the hold. They wouldn't mess with me again.

In my state--and most states--you can't touch them unless there is an immediate emergency or you get fired and sued. Iow, you have to wait to protect yourself until the very last minute. By that time, it's too late.

 

[DakotaKai_fan20]

In my state--and most states--you can't touch them unless there is an immediate emergency or you get fired and sued. Iow, you have to wait to protect yourself until the very last minute. By that time, it's too late.

Personally, I wouldn't give a damn as the child attacked me first and I was acting in self defense.

 

[SweetSue92]

Never was the case when I was in school! I spent seven years in public school and 2.5 in private school--- I never once saw or heard of a teacher being attacked. Kids fought with other kids.


Brass knuckles--- the great equalizer. A lot can happen waiting for 911 to show up and it is kinda hard to call the police while some kid is on top of you.

Comparing to "when you were in school" is like comparing 1924 to 2024, sorry. That's no remark on your age, but how terrible everything in schools are these days. The severely behaved children and their parents run the entire show. My school is an asylum and I'm not even kidding.

Part of the problem is the over-focus on "mental health". Which is my opinion almost always makes things worse. Yes, some people are truly mentally ill, granted. But "life is hard" is not a mental illness.

 

[toobfreak]

Kids that age rage, believe it. And throw things. That's probably what happened. The kid flung a chair.

I never raged in school or threw anything. Something is different today.

 

[Road Runner]

In my state--and most states--you can't touch them unless there is an immediate emergency or you get fired and sued. Iow, you have to wait to protect yourself until the very last minute. By that time, it's too late.

Technically spraying them with gasoline and lighting a match isn't touching them.

 

[Donald H]

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The special ed laws, and people's interpretation of them, make this possible. We need to tighten the laws so assaults cannot happen, no matter WHAT the child's dx. In the real world, if you assault anyone, it's a crime. It's not allowed. Now, punishments can be mitigated depending on mental issues, and I understand and support that. But just saying children and staff should put up with physical abuse because a child "had a bad day" is not ever a valid excuse. Ever.

The teacher's hands were tied and she was prevented from even slapping the kid's wrist to settle him down.

 

[SweetSue92]

Here's my suggestion of how to handle it.

Once the A and B team teachers are all run out of the profession, believe me, this will be the D team.

And we deserve it.

We don't deserve good teachers anymore. I love teaching to my core. But I often tell my younger colleagues when it comes up: get out now.

All this plus the huge dose of disrespect we get because we're all "groomers"

 

[DakotaKai_fan20]

Technically spraying them with gasoline and lighting a match isn't touching them.

But a huge problem is it would be a crime of attempted murder. But I had a good laugh.

 

[SweetSue92]

Technically spraying them with gasoline and lighting a match isn't touching them.

Okay I'm never thinking that BUT, the children I'm supposed to coddle? No, I'm done. I'm in my twilight years here and I will get right in their face and say "if you do that one more time XYZ". Guess what? They stop. They stop immediately

I don't care how they feel.

I don't care if that makes them sad.

STOP.

I said, STOP.

I don't care if the gentle parents never tell their kids no; I do. And it works.

 

[Road Runner]

But a huge problem is it would be a crime of attempted murder. But I had a good laugh.

I know that as I was just mostly joking but you can still say that you never put a hand on them and it would be the honest truth.

 

[toobfreak]

Yeah well, if you're around my age, the teachers could at least restrain you if not attack back.
We can't touch them now.

But that is HALF THE PROBLEM. Knowing that you can't touch them or fight back just encourages more and greater outbursts of violence. That is wrong.

Spare the rod spoil the child rings true.

 

[SweetSue92]

I never raged in school or threw anything. Something is different today.

I never lie here and that's the honest truth.

Something is VERY VERY wrong and it's terrifying. The kids are not okay. The extreme behaviors and the amount of them. How many kids are severely impacted, is crazy. It's something. It's chemicals in our food; the gene pool has been eroded; it's the vaccines. I'm not making this up.

The best admin I ever worked for said he retired when he noticed that we had one very, very difficult child per school, and it went to one child per CLASS. Now it's several per class. Severe behavioral, mental, social issues. I have stories you wouldn't believe, but they're true.

 

[SweetSue92]

I know that as I was just mostly joking but you can still say that you never put a hand on them and it would be the honest truth.

My teacher look is nuclear--but it doesn't work on those kids mostly. Sadly.

 

[Road Runner]

Btw I love children for the record and usually want to protect them and have my own someday but this is just messed up. Where are the parents anyways?