First gay group forms on U.S. military base

[Katzndogz]

First gay group forms on U.S. military base

First gay group forms on U.S. military base - 1326 - Gay Lesbian Bi Trans News - Windy City Times

Only time will tell but Greece and Rome did alright.

I don't see the point in forming "gay groups" just go on about your duties like everyone else. They are all soldiers and all the same.

NOT anymore.

 

[High_Gravity]

I had a woman who worked for me. She spent 20 years in the Army during the days of Don't Ask Don't Tell. I asked her about gays in her unit. There were some, everyone knew who they were. They never caused a problem and got along well with everyone else. Her opinon was that if some of them did not have such intense restraints on their behavior it would have been much different. If she had not already put in her time and got discharged would she have stayed in? No. Not simply because there were gays in the unit, there were always gays in the unit but because the permission they now have in their behavior would not be worth the effort.

Once, I was on CQ duty and one of the guys came in from outside with his shirt pulled out of his pants and carrying his shoes. It was raining a little so I couldn't understand why he was carrying his shoes. He said a girl across the street at ARPAC was hosting a gang bang in the basement and after about 30 bangs someone went downstairs and told them to break it up. So everyone left quickly which is why he was carrying his shoes.

Anyone who thinks sex doesn't happen in the military is crazy.

This one sergeant in my squad brought his wife over one day and she was kind of mousy and shy. A couple of months later, the entire battalion was out on maneuvers but I was back at the barracks because I was recovering from a hernia operation. I walked down to the snack bar (very slowly and slightly hunched over) and this sexy voice said, "Hi Specialist Dean. Remember me?" I turned and it was this guy's wife in shiny hot pants and very high heels, make up, big hair. She was "on the prowl". I had already heard the stories. I didn't believe them before, but then I did.

Take thousands of young people and sex happens. It just does and it always will.

You pretty much nailed it with this one Dean.

 

[Katzndogz]

I had a woman who worked for me. She spent 20 years in the Army during the days of Don't Ask Don't Tell. I asked her about gays in her unit. There were some, everyone knew who they were. They never caused a problem and got along well with everyone else. Her opinon was that if some of them did not have such intense restraints on their behavior it would have been much different. If she had not already put in her time and got discharged would she have stayed in? No. Not simply because there were gays in the unit, there were always gays in the unit but because the permission they now have in their behavior would not be worth the effort.

Once, I was on CQ duty and one of the guys came in from outside with his shirt pulled out of his pants and carrying his shoes. It was raining a little so I couldn't understand why he was carrying his shoes. He said a girl across the street at ARPAC was hosting a gang bang in the basement and after about 30 bangs someone went downstairs and told them to break it up. So everyone left quickly which is why he was carrying his shoes.

Anyone who thinks sex doesn't happen in the military is crazy.

This one sergeant in my squad brought his wife over one day and she was kind of mousy and shy. A couple of months later, the entire battalion was out on maneuvers but I was back at the barracks because I was recovering from a hernia operation. I walked down to the snack bar (very slowly and slightly hunched over) and this sexy voice said, "Hi Specialist Dean. Remember me?" I turned and it was this guy's wife in shiny hot pants and very high heels, make up, big hair. She was "on the prowl". I had already heard the stories. I didn't believe them before, but then I did.

Take thousands of young people and sex happens. It just does and it always will.

You pretty much nailed it with this one Dean.

dean missed the point. It isn't that thousands of young people will have sex, it's whether or not same sex harassment will be tolerated. To thousands of young people sex will happen and some of those young people will be punished if they object. Which was the point my Army friend was making. Those who object and voice complaints will be subject to involuntary separation or other punishment.

The difference in dean's example is he was able to say no to the cougar on the prowl. Reject the advances of a homosexual and it might be (depending on how vindictive the gay is) a hate crime.

 

[High_Gravity]

Once, I was on CQ duty and one of the guys came in from outside with his shirt pulled out of his pants and carrying his shoes. It was raining a little so I couldn't understand why he was carrying his shoes. He said a girl across the street at ARPAC was hosting a gang bang in the basement and after about 30 bangs someone went downstairs and told them to break it up. So everyone left quickly which is why he was carrying his shoes.

Anyone who thinks sex doesn't happen in the military is crazy.

This one sergeant in my squad brought his wife over one day and she was kind of mousy and shy. A couple of months later, the entire battalion was out on maneuvers but I was back at the barracks because I was recovering from a hernia operation. I walked down to the snack bar (very slowly and slightly hunched over) and this sexy voice said, "Hi Specialist Dean. Remember me?" I turned and it was this guy's wife in shiny hot pants and very high heels, make up, big hair. She was "on the prowl". I had already heard the stories. I didn't believe them before, but then I did.

Take thousands of young people and sex happens. It just does and it always will.

You pretty much nailed it with this one Dean.

dean missed the point. It isn't that thousands of young people will have sex, it's whether or not same sex harassment will be tolerated. To thousands of young people sex will happen and some of those young people will be punished if they object. Which was the point my Army friend was making. Those who object and voice complaints will be subject to involuntary separation or other punishment.

The difference in dean's example is he was able to say no to the cougar on the prowl. Reject the advances of a homosexual and it might be (depending on how vindictive the gay is) a hate crime.

So you really think straight people will have to tolerate homosexual advances or face legal punishments?

 

[Jos]

Monty Python- Camp Army Drill - YouTube
I hope this makes gay/bi/lesbian/goat fuckers/Dog wankers, feel like they belong in the hey its all good US Navy

Psst - that an Army Drill video, not a Navy one.


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Psst, they are neither, there Actors

 

[Katzndogz]

You pretty much nailed it with this one Dean.

dean missed the point. It isn't that thousands of young people will have sex, it's whether or not same sex harassment will be tolerated. To thousands of young people sex will happen and some of those young people will be punished if they object. Which was the point my Army friend was making. Those who object and voice complaints will be subject to involuntary separation or other punishment.

The difference in dean's example is he was able to say no to the cougar on the prowl. Reject the advances of a homosexual and it might be (depending on how vindictive the gay is) a hate crime.

So you really think straight people will have to tolerate homosexual advances or face legal punishments?

They do in civilian life now. Police, fire departments, every high school and college campus. Complain at your peril.

 

[High_Gravity]

dean missed the point. It isn't that thousands of young people will have sex, it's whether or not same sex harassment will be tolerated. To thousands of young people sex will happen and some of those young people will be punished if they object. Which was the point my Army friend was making. Those who object and voice complaints will be subject to involuntary separation or other punishment.

The difference in dean's example is he was able to say no to the cougar on the prowl. Reject the advances of a homosexual and it might be (depending on how vindictive the gay is) a hate crime.

So you really think straight people will have to tolerate homosexual advances or face legal punishments?

They do in civilian life now. Police, fire departments, every high school and college campus. Complain at your peril.

Huh? if a gay person makes a sexual advance at you and you complain, you get in trouble?

 

[WorldWatcher]

Monty Python- Camp Army Drill - YouTube
I hope this makes gay/bi/lesbian/goat fuckers/Dog wankers, feel like they belong in the hey its all good US Navy

Psst - that an Army Drill video, not a Navy one.


>>>>

Psst, they are neither, there Actors

True enough, I'm just trying to figure out why a comedy routine simulating an Army Drill would want to make someone join the US Navy.

In reality there is a choice: Spend hot sweaty days with a bunch of guys in the field or get to visit strange ports of call, drink vast quantities of inebriating liquors, and chase beautiful exotic women.

Well I know why I joined the Navy.


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[Katzndogz]

So you really think straight people will have to tolerate homosexual advances or face legal punishments?

They do in civilian life now. Police, fire departments, every high school and college campus. Complain at your peril.

Huh? if a gay person makes a sexual advance at you and you complain, you get in trouble?

What do you think the San Diego firefighter's complaints were about?

You might know someone yourself but they are just too afraid to say anything. I know a couple of teens myself that were threatened and intimidated into silence. The worst case was probably the Lawrence King murder where one boy was so harrassed and his complaints dismissed out of hand as "homophobia" that he just shot King through the head.

 

[Big Black Dog]

Jesus H. Christ. Not only are the new Navy uniforms "queer" but obviously so are some of their sailors...

 

[High_Gravity]

They do in civilian life now. Police, fire departments, every high school and college campus. Complain at your peril.

Huh? if a gay person makes a sexual advance at you and you complain, you get in trouble?

What do you think the San Diego firefighter's complaints were about?

You might know someone yourself but they are just too afraid to say anything. I know a couple of teens myself that were threatened and intimidated into silence. The worst case was probably the Lawrence King murder where one boy was so harrassed and his complaints dismissed out of hand as "homophobia" that he just shot King through the head.

The Lawrence King situation was out of hand, even the boys parents wanted the school to act and do something about his behavior, just the fact that he was able to walk into the school dressed like a girl astounds me. If you tried to walk into my old middle school in Kansas City dressed as a girl you wouldn't even make it into the building.

 

[High_Gravity]

I actually think the woman, third one from the right is cute.

 

[Ropey]

First gay group forms on U.S. military base

First gay group forms on U.S. military base - 1326 - Gay Lesbian Bi Trans News - Windy City Times

Only time will tell but Greece and Rome did alright.

I don't see the point in forming "gay groups" just go on about your duties like everyone else. They are all soldiers and all the same.

People form groups of like minded people. It's the human condition and this pendulum will find center and I think the US will still have the best fighting force in the world.

I actually think the woman, third one from the right is cute.

In comparison? I agree.

 

[Mr Natural]

I actually think the woman, third one from the right is cute.

Yeah, she's not half bad.

I wonder if she'd consider changing teams for a while to see how it goes. She can even bring her buddy with her.

 

[NLT]

Anything that fractures the military like it has fractured civillians will ultimately bring us toward the end game.

Interestingly enough, there have been gays in the military since I enlisted in 1982, and there were still gays in the military when I retired in 2002.

During my career, one of the jobs I had to do every 6 months was calculate worksheets for the people in the command that were eligible for the advancement exam, which included their time in service, length of service, time in paygrade, as well as add up all their personal awards and average their evaluations for that period.

I also knew who was and wasn't gay in just about every command I was attached to, because people trusted me and knew I wouldn't tell on them.

Know what I found out from that? Gays generally had better evaluations and more personal awards than their straight counterparts.

Katz..........quick question.............did YOU ever serve in the military? If so, how many gay people did you know.

Try again..........your premise is seriously screwed up. I know this from experience.

You were a PN? Kinda figures.

 

[Katzndogz]

I don't need to have served in the military to know that the military today isn't the same as it was in 1982 or 2002. I do know that in 2002 military men were not wearing false tits and fake pregnant bellies as part of their training.

When someone has a propensity to act out and is forbidden to do so, they will behave far differently when they suddenly have permission to engage their fantasies.

 

[Warrior102]

I actually think the woman, third one from the right is cute.

Yeah, she's not half bad.

I wonder if she'd consider changing teams for a while to see how it goes. She can even bring her buddy with her.

The guy on the far right looks more like your type

 

[Warrior102]

I don't need to have served in the military.....

******* Idiot Alert

 

[ABikerSailor]

Heterosexual intercourse often results in babies. The legitimate concern that women back home, either married or not, who might be incapacitated by having been impregnated by a US Navy Sailor and concern for the baby is the reason that the Navy gets involved with the social life of Sailors. Homosexual sailors don't have that problem. In fact it's freaking impossible for a gay relationship to result in pregnancy. So why should the Navy get involved with homosexual relationships? The gay member back home is probably doing better financially than the gay Sailor. Should the Navy get involved when the "spouse" of a gay Sailor finds a longer dikk to suck?

Actually, it's not for the children, it's for the spouses of the sailors that the Ombudsman groups exist. Many sailors have only a wife if they're lower ranks.

Take your bullshit and shove it up your ass.

Maybe you know more about it from a personal level but I assume that in a male gay relationship the boy back home probably makes a living as well or better than the gay boy in the Navy. There is no way the gay boy back home could end up barefoot and pregnant and since only 7 states allow homosexual marriages there is no legal need for the Navy to interfere in a relationship that literally sucks.

"Barefoot and pregnant" is only 1 of the may things that the Ombudsman program handles. What if their house burns down? What if the car suddenly goes on the fritz? What if pipes burst in the winter? Those are things that are expensive to fix, and yeah......the Ombudsman program hooks those people up with Navy Relief so that they can get their things fixed.

There's also the matter of a death in the family, or, the possibility of the death of the SO of the gay servicemember.

 

[Mr Natural]

I actually think the woman, third one from the right is cute.

Yeah, she's not half bad.

I wonder if she'd consider changing teams for a while to see how it goes. She can even bring her buddy with her.

The guy on the far right looks more like your type

No thanks! Not after you've had your way with him.