Fire every federal bureaucrat/employee caught undermining the administration.

[martybegan]

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"Undermining and sabotaging a president".

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...................

Maybe by a squeak of a definition.


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If they actively give information to foreign enemies, then traitors.

If they don't do their job, they aren't doing their job. Just fire their asses and be done with it.

The objective is to clean out the swamp, not create martyrs.

 

[TemplarKormac]

There are many out there who aren't involved in deep state sabotage who are well qualified and would love one of those good government jobs. And getting rid of the riff raff would almost certainly provide them much less resistance in being considered.

In my opinion, when the bad actors outnumber the ones with good intentions, the government would cease to function in any capacity.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

If they actively give information to foreign enemies, then traitors.

If they don't do their job, they aren't doing their job. Just fire their asses and be done with it.

The objective is to clean out the swamp, not create martyrs.

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Good point re: martyrs.


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[Foxfyre]

Fire them, indict them, and send them to prison for 35 years.

You gotta catch them first. I'm sure Mannina is just the tip of the iceberg. I'm hoping the Department/agency heads, DOJ and DOGE audit teams will be looking for that kind of stuff.

 

[hadit]

If they actively give information to foreign enemies, then traitors.

If they don't do their job, they aren't doing their job. Just fire their asses and be done with it.

The objective is to clean out the swamp, not create martyrs.

This is true. Treat them like any CEO would treat employees who openly defy his directions and policies for the company.

 

[Foxfyre]

In my opinion, when the bad actors outnumber the ones with good intentions, the government would cease to function in any capacity.

Maybe but I think there are far more TDS and never-Trumper afflicted in the federal government than good honest employees but we are still functioning however ineffectively and inefficiently.

An analysis of the 2024 campaign donations by federal employees:
". . .Almost 70% of Political Donations for Democrats
Of the donations from all agencies, 30.5% went to Republicans, and 69.5% went to Democrats. Two agencies did not have any donations to Republicans: The Department of Education and the Office of Personnel Management. . ."

Federal Employees And Political Donations In 2024 Election Cycle | FedSmith.com

The federal government is a large organization, presumably with an apolitical workforce to serve the public interest. Which political party do federal employees support with their political donations?

www.fedsmith.com

And while donations in and of themselves do not indicate a person is not apolitical in his/her job, which is what we expect of federal employees, the office of personnel management having NO conservatives in it suggests a real likelihood of bias in hiring.

I know a few federal employees who are militantly anti-Trump and do what they can off the clock to discredit, smear, undermine him and they don't mind using the most dishonest stuff to do that. They've done so for at least five years now. What they do on the clock is anybody's guess, but you do have to wonder.

 

[Wild Bill Kelsoe]

They aren't traitors. Don't fall into the trap of over-accusing people as the left does.

They don't want to do their jobs, they don't have to have their jobs.

I dunno, this sounds a lot like treason...

"On one date with the undercover journalist, Mannina said that the next day he would be personally presenting to the chiefs of the Army, the Navy, and the Air Force, in a meeting led by General CQ Brown, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. He said the topic was artificial intelligence and the need to share information with other countries “because we need to fight together.” "

Pentagon Aide Terminated After Boasting About Conspiring With Retired Generals To Stop Trump

A Booz Allen Hamilton contractor embedded in the Pentagon’s Joint Staff, its highest office, has been terminated after boasting to an undercover journalist that he worked with retired generals to try to stop Donald Trump, who he viewed as a “sociopathic narcissist,” from winning the presidency.

www.dailywire.com

 

[martybegan]

I dunno, this sounds a lot like treason...

"On one date with the undercover journalist, Mannina said that the next day he would be personally presenting to the chiefs of the Army, the Navy, and the Air Force, in a meeting led by General CQ Brown, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. He said the topic was artificial intelligence and the need to share information with other countries “because we need to fight together.” "

Pentagon Aide Terminated After Boasting About Conspiring With Retired Generals To Stop Trump

A Booz Allen Hamilton contractor embedded in the Pentagon’s Joint Staff, its highest office, has been terminated after boasting to an undercover journalist that he worked with retired generals to try to stop Donald Trump, who he viewed as a “sociopathic narcissist,” from winning the presidency.

www.dailywire.com

if they actually give the information to other countries, and those are our enemies, then go after them for treason.

If they just refuse to do their job, fire their asses. If uniformed officers refuse to follow orders, ask them to resign their commissions.

 

[Foxfyre]

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Is there such a thing as overkill when dealing with traitors?


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You have to cut some slack for the employee whose choice is following the orders of his/her supervisor(s) or be fired, demoted, whatever. Everybody doesn't have the courage of a whistleblower but those people maybe should be fired but shouldn't be subject to indictment/jail time.

But I would be all for federal employees to sign some kind of affidavit that they will do their jobs apolitically and to the best of their ability no matter who is in charge of Congress and the White House. And that they understand failure to do so could result in their termination.

Then again there has to be at least some protection for the federal employees who are honestly doing their job and are falsely accused by their supervisors or coworkers. Just as nobody should be convicted of anything solely on the accusation of another person without any other evidence, neither should somebody lose their job just because somebody accuses them of something they didn't do.

 

[d0gbreath]

The Apprentice Loyalty Show

 

[Foxfyre]

I dunno, this sounds a lot like treason...

"On one date with the undercover journalist, Mannina said that the next day he would be personally presenting to the chiefs of the Army, the Navy, and the Air Force, in a meeting led by General CQ Brown, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. He said the topic was artificial intelligence and the need to share information with other countries “because we need to fight together.” "

Pentagon Aide Terminated After Boasting About Conspiring With Retired Generals To Stop Trump

A Booz Allen Hamilton contractor embedded in the Pentagon’s Joint Staff, its highest office, has been terminated after boasting to an undercover journalist that he worked with retired generals to try to stop Donald Trump, who he viewed as a “sociopathic narcissist,” from winning the presidency.

www.dailywire.com

It does indeed. It is one thing to campaign passionately for your candidate of choice, and something else again to conspire with other countries to undermine the electoral process in the USA. It might have gone down very differently with Pam Bondi as A.G. but you know Biden/Garland/deep state aren't going to prosecute one of their own.

 

[Dragonlady]

Here is what Trump is having to deal with even before taking office. We saw it played out by FBI personnel et al in his first administration and no doubt it will continue, i.e. federal bureaucrats/employees intentionally undermining and/or sabotaging the President and his agenda.



I want Congress to pass a law mandating that any bureaucrat/employee/appointee who is caught and confirmed in deliberately sabotaging or otherwise interfering with the elected leadership can be immediately fired and will be entitled to no benefits. If sufficiently severe, the person can be indicted and tried for criminal acts.

No President can do his job as effectively with this kind of deep state subversion going on.

Federal employees must be instructed and must agree to work faithfully for the people's choice as their leaders or they must be out.

That of course would not apply to honest whistle blowers who go through proper channels to report any obvious malfeasance going on within the government.

I have seen posted on social media that Mannina was fired over the incident in the link but I have not confirmed that.

No civil rights for anyone. Fire the disloyal.

This is why the USA is failing in every way that matters.

 

[Foxfyre]

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Is there such a thing as overkill when dealing with traitors?


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Government has to serve at the will of the people. No matter how good the government, if the people think it has overstepped its authority and the government loses their good will, we lose that good government. As much as we would like for justice to be blind, when it comes to politics it just can't be. Most especially when we have a MSM that is mostly in bed with the deep state.

 

[toobfreak]

Here is what Trump is having to deal with even before taking office.

It is all about a corrupt power structure of current and former people all working together to try to keep the sweet gig that made them rich from being broken up.

 

[toobfreak]

No civil rights for anyone. Fire the disloyal.

You mean fire the treasonous. Prosecute the criminal.

This is why the USA is failing in every way that matters.

Funny that you claim the USA is failing (current tense) yet defend keeping the system in place which has caused it to fail.
Obvious, if the USA is already failing and Trump isn't even in office, then you need to look at who oversaw the USA failing for the past 50 years.

Not Trump who was only in office for 4 and was obstructed at his every turn.

Jackass.

 

[BluesLegend]

Democrats have ZERO respect for elections or the will of the American people. We need to create new reservations on federal lands and force Democrats onto the reservations.

 

[marvin martian]

Here is what Trump is having to deal with even before taking office. We saw it played out by FBI personnel et al in his first administration and no doubt it will continue, i.e. federal bureaucrats/employees intentionally undermining and/or sabotaging the President and his agenda.



I want Congress to pass a law mandating that any bureaucrat/employee/appointee who is caught and confirmed in deliberately sabotaging or otherwise interfering with the elected leadership can be immediately fired and will be entitled to no benefits. If sufficiently severe, the person can be indicted and tried for criminal acts.

No President can do his job as effectively with this kind of deep state subversion going on.

Federal employees must be instructed and must agree to work faithfully for the people's choice as their leaders or they must be out.

That of course would not apply to honest whistle blowers who go through proper channels to report any obvious malfeasance going on within the government.

I have seen posted on social media that Mannina was fired over the incident in the link but I have not confirmed that.

Fire, investigate, prosecute, imprison.

 

[Foxfyre]

It is all about a corrupt power structure of current and former people all working together to try to keep the sweet gig that made them rich from being broken up.

Trump and his team want to change that culture but they have four short years to do it and without a free and responsible press they have to do it with one hand tied behind their backs. But Trump accomplished so much in his first term with far more handicaps than he will start out with this time, I hope and pray he can pull off a miracle again.

And all of us should do everything we can to help include being careful not to use false memes and stuff but get good verifiable information out there.

 

[westwall]

Overkill. If they refuse to do thier jobs, ask them to resign. If they don't resign, fire them for cause.

There's no such thing as overkill. Especially when it comes to these assholes attempting to interfere with the Trump presidency. They are at best committing sedition, and at worse committing treason. Punish them accordingly.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

Here is what Trump is having to deal with even before taking office. We saw it played out by FBI personnel et al in his first administration and no doubt it will continue, i.e. federal bureaucrats/employees intentionally undermining and/or sabotaging the President and his agenda.



I want Congress to pass a law mandating that any bureaucrat/employee/appointee who is caught and confirmed in deliberately sabotaging or otherwise interfering with the elected leadership can be immediately fired and will be entitled to no benefits. If sufficiently severe, the person can be indicted and tried for criminal acts.

No President can do his job as effectively with this kind of deep state subversion going on.

Federal employees must be instructed and must agree to work faithfully for the people's choice as their leaders or they must be out.

That of course would not apply to honest whistle blowers who go through proper channels to report any obvious malfeasance going on within the government.

I have seen posted on social media that Mannina was fired over the incident in the link but I have not confirmed that.

That's great! Undermine the orange bag O' shit every single minute for the next four years! Heck, ignore it completely and see if it slithers away on it's own.

Win-win!