Finally, A Win For Anti-Gay Marriage Republicans

[rightwinger]

Why does government have any involvement in a wedding in the first place? Why are personal relationships legislated?

Because it is a legal contract with legal ramifications

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Why does government have any involvement in a wedding in the first place? Why are personal relationships legislated?

They are not involved in the wedding, just the marriage.

 

[fncceo]

Because it is a legal contract with legal ramifications

I can enter into any number of civil contracts without a government approval.

 

[fncceo]

They are not involved in the wedding, just the marriage.

But why does what is essentially a civil contract require a government approval?

 

[rightwinger]

I can enter into any number of civil contracts without a government approval.

The government does not get to approve of who you choose to marry

 

[jknowgood]

Pastors have that right
Government workers don’t

We know the positions you loons have, destroy anyone that doesn't agree with you. You loons destroyed a baker, caused he didn't agree with you.

 

[BS Filter]

Government punishes married couples. That's why many couples don't get married. If you're married you're taxed more. If you're a married couple on Medicare you are also punished.

 

[BS Filter]

The government does not get to approve of who you choose to marry

Yes they do. Try and marry your sister.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

But why does what is essentially a civil contract require a government approval?

Because the Govt choose to attach all sorts of benefits and privileges to that contract.

 

[rightwinger]

Yes they do. Try and marry your sister.

Not a legal marriage
Neither is marrying a 14 year old

But they have no right to restrict a legal marriage

 

[fncceo]

The government does not get to approve of who you choose to marry

Actually, if we had to pass separate legislation to "approve" the right to same-sex marriage, then it bloody well did. The government can forbid you from marrying a sibling, or a person with close family relations.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Not a legal marriage
Neither is marrying a 14 year old

But they have no right to restrict a legal marriage

They define what is a legal marriage.

 

[rightwinger]

Actually, if we had to pass separate legislation to "approve" the right to same-sex marriage, then it bloody well did. The government can forbid you from marrying a sibling, or a person with close family relations.

Those are not legal marriages
Your local Pastor cannot allow you to marry a sibling or minor either

 

[rightwinger]

They define what is a legal marriage.

Yes they do

A local clerk does not get to define a legal marriage either

 

[fncceo]

Because the Govt choose to attach all sorts of benefits and privileges to that contract.

There are tax implication with concerns to filing status which even a non-state sanctioned (de-facto) couple can enjoy. Childcare and other offspring related tax benefits do not require marriage.

What other government benefits and privileges are dependent on marital status?

 

[BS Filter]

Not a legal marriage
Neither is marrying a 14 year old

But they have no right to restrict a legal marriage

If the Supreme Court returns marriage laws to the states, some states will make same-sex legal and some won't.

 

[Polishprince]

Those are not legal marriages
Your local Pastor cannot allow you to marry a sibling or minor either

If you are in a civilized country like Poland or Zambia, they won't allow you to marry a dog or someone of the same sex as it isn't legal there.

 

[fncceo]

Those are not legal marriages
Your local Pastor cannot allow you to marry a sibling or minor either

That is my point. They are "illegal", the state has passed legislation to forbid them.

Why does the state have the power to legislate what is essentially a relationship between two (or more) people?

 

[rightwinger]

What other government benefits and privileges are dependent on marital status?

Survivor benefits, joint property, right to make medical decisions

 

[Harpy Eagle]

There are tax implication with concerns to filing status which even a non-state sanctioned (de-facto) couple can enjoy. Childcare and other offspring related tax benefits do not require marriage.

What other government benefits and privileges are dependent on marital status?

Social Security spousal and survival benefits for one

Married couples can transfer an unlimited amount of property to each other free of any reporting or gift tax.