Finally, a libertarian president

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Trump budget expected to seek historic contraction of federal workforce

I told you to pick this guy.

Now you will all be jumpin in joy. Except parasites.

Take them from one part, and increase them somewhere else while telling everyone how much you're getting rid of federal workers... you'll see.

No, that's how democrats do it. Except they don't cut anything.

Ah, always blame it on the Democrats......

Dems are the ones who create the excess. Repubs capitalize.

Yeah, right, as long as we live in your fantasy world, it's true/

If you lived in my real world, you'd know.
Ask Aunt Esther (tigerturd)

 

[JimBowie1958]

From 1991 to 2013 I worked mostly as a government contractor, and the reputation that government workers have is unjust and inaccurate.

With the single exception of the DoJ, every agency and department I worked in was staffed with the most professional, responsible and patriotic of Americans, who could have made far more money had they gone into the private sector. Most of them are as outraged by government scandals as anyone else. They love our country and its people, and our way of life. You have to get into the upper reaches of the bureaucracy before you meet the Literati elitists working at the GS13 level and higher. At least that was my experience, and I worked at Treasury, the Department of Energy, The USPS, the FDA, DoJ, INS, the Army, the Navy and the IRS.

When the IRS scandals came out about crap going on in OK, this one woman that worked there quit because she could not work for an agency that she felt had lost its way. We talked about it a number of times and she eventually went back when she understood (not all through my efforts of course) that we NEED people like her in our government to help keep it honest and efficient.

When people go to work for the government, their skill set becomes very tuned to government work exclusively in most cases. Unless one is getting a sweet heart sort of deal with a corporation that one had oversight on, generally there is a lower pay for people that move from the government to the private sector, at least for a while though there are always exceptions. Just talking about what I personally have seen. While there are jobs for satellite photography specialists, for instance, there are not that many jobs for them.

When people go into the government to work for the American people, they are making a sacrifice that they hope is balanced with job security and a pension perhaps.

To make such huge cuts as Trump is talking about, 10% to 30% of various agencies and Departments, is inhumane, unwise and shooting America in the foot in the long run by breaking an implicit agreement of providing security instead of financial compensation, I am quite certain.

We should use attrition and early retirement to reduce the force, not summary firings.

 

[grbb]

Libertarians do not agree with one another.

One thing we DO agree is we need less government and more meritocracy

 

[grbb]

From 1991 to 2013 I worked mostly as a government contractor, and the reputation that government workers have is unjust and inaccurate.

With the single exception of the DoJ, every agency and department I worked in was staffed with the most professional, responsible and patriotic of Americans, who could have made far more money had they gone into the private sector. Most of them are as outraged by government scandals as anyone else. They love our country and its people, and our way of life. You have to get into the upper reaches of the bureaucracy before you meet the Literati elitists working at the GS13 level and higher. At least that was my experience, and I worked at Treasury, the Department of Energy, The USPS, the FDA, DoJ, INS, the Army, the Navy and the IRS.

When the IRS scandals came out about crap going on in OK, this one woman that worked there quit because she could not work for an agency that she felt had lost its way. We talked about it a number of times and she eventually went back when she understood (not all through my efforts of course) that we NEED people like her in our government to help keep it honest and efficient.

When people go to work for the government, their skill set becomes very tuned to government work exclusively in most cases. Unless one is getting a sweet heart sort of deal with a corporation that one had oversight on, generally there is a lower pay for people that move from the government to the private sector, at least for a while though there are always exceptions. Just talking about what I personally have seen. While there are jobs for satellite photography specialists, for instance, there are not that many jobs for them.

When people go into the government to work for the American people, they are making a sacrifice that they hope is balanced with job security and a pension perhaps.

To make such huge cuts as Trump is talking about, 10% to 30% of various agencies and Departments, is inhumane, unwise and shooting America in the foot in the long run by breaking an implicit agreement of providing security instead of financial compensation, I am quite certain.

We should use attrition and early retirement to reduce the force, not summary firings.

Really? Then why some american black presidential candidate say that all those in department of education just wants to keep their jobs by making things complicated? Why teachers in public schools don't compete for performance.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Really? Then why some american black presidential candidate say that all those in department of education just wants to keep their jobs by making things complicated?

I dont know, you should probably ask him. Maybe it was just hyperbole?

Why teachers in public schools don't compete for performance.

Most government jobs do not really yeild themselves to the efficiency of competition and cause a distortion of how the job should be done instead.


Imagine IRS employees competing for the most taxes brought in. I dont like that idea.

Teachers competing for their kids doing the best on a year end test causes neglect for teaching critical thinking skills that are not easily placed in a bubble filling test answer sheet, and so get ignored, and yet this is one of the main skills our young adults need.

Perhaps we just need more patience with the government, which is composed of mere humanity after all.

 

[grbb]

Perhaps we have too much patient for government. Being human is not an excuse at all. Fail and you'll be replaced by robots. That's the market way. That's how we should treat fellow humans. Because that's the efficient ways.

Kids are already critical. Government infested schools are just indoctrination.

 

[grbb]

Ah you may be right. May be government is not too bad. Well, my government is very bad. And US government is never friendly to immigrant like I was anyway. So I always thank free market and avoid anything governmental. Work well so far for me.