Federal Reserve Won't Say Who They Gave $2 Trillion To?

[sealybobo]

And you guys are crying about $750 billion?

Notice this was done last year on Bush's watch?

This probably happens all the time and we just never hear about it. It is time to take back the Federal Reserve from the bankers that own it.

Why we are trusting greedy bankers instead of our own government is beyond me.

Stop thinking your government is the enemy. They only are if they are siding with these criminals!!!

http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/106443/why_won't_the_federal_reserve_say_who_they_gave_$2_trillion_to/

 

[sealybobo]

The idea that a central bank that has screwed up as badly as the Fed has under both Greenspan and Bernanke is so much better off independent than with the public having some control is ridiculous and fundamentally anti-democratic. Central bank independence has just led to a huge financial bubble and economic collapse, while Bernanke and Greenspan both acted as if they were virtual dictators.

 

[pete]

Bushes watch or not it was still GOVERNMENT they are all to blame not just Bush

 

[editec]

The masters control government and the banks.

They needed some additional dough.

They got it from administrations representing BOTH parties.

Que surprise, eh?

 

[sealybobo]

Bushes watch or not it was still GOVERNMENT they are all to blame not just Bush

I'm not even blaming government, other than the fact that they have the power to take back the Federal Reserve from private bankers.

And that's going to take more of you to join people like Bernie Sanders or Ron Paul.

Two opposite sides of the political spectrum, both telling you that these private bankers have too much power.

Come on!! We need the government to do this. And they won't if we don't make them. Dems or GOP. Neither will take this on until they know we support them.

Ron Paul has a petition.

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2009-2010 Federal Reserve Transparency Act of 2009

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And watch, the GOP will be the ones to defend the Federal Reserve. That's because the richest bankers in the world are Republicans!!!

But yes, they also have the dems under their control too. But I have heard many dems at least be open to doing this.

Remember what the GOP did to Ron Paul during the elections when he brought this up? They blacklisted him from any future debates, even though he won the first few he was in. And do you remember how Glen Beck treated him? Glen beck, a supposed "libertarian"? He rolled his eyes at Ron Paul.

 

[sealybobo]

The masters control government and the banks.

They needed some additional dough.

They got it from administrations representing BOTH parties.

Que surprise, eh?

I waited all this time and not one complaint from any teabaggers or people who are sooo worried about Obama's Trillion dollar 10 year plan.

No rallys being planned?

No outrage?

No replies?

I didn't think so.

Like I said Ed, the difference between the parties is the voters. The reason the Democrats are better is because WE as people are better people.

The right wingers won't complain about the bankers. The bankers can have as much as they want. Don't worry about inflation or the debt until Obama wants to spend some money.

 

[Oddball]

More BOOOOOOOOOOSH!!!!

 

[txlonghorn]

The masters control government and the banks.

They needed some additional dough.

They got it from administrations representing BOTH parties.

Que surprise, eh?

I waited all this time and not one complaint from any teabaggers or people who are sooo worried about Obama's Trillion dollar 10 year plan.

No rallys being planned?

No outrage?

No replies?

I didn't think so.

Like I said Ed, the difference between the parties is the voters. The reason the Democrats are better is because WE as people are better people.

The right wingers won't complain about the bankers. The bankers can have as much as they want. Don't worry about inflation or the debt until Obama wants to spend some money.

Let's keep in mind that the house that passed all these monies around had their grimey little paws out...yes...Democrats too.

You're better people??? STFU.

 

[sealybobo]

The masters control government and the banks.

They needed some additional dough.

They got it from administrations representing BOTH parties.

Que surprise, eh?

I waited all this time and not one complaint from any teabaggers or people who are sooo worried about Obama's Trillion dollar 10 year plan.

No rallys being planned?

No outrage?

No replies?

I didn't think so.

Like I said Ed, the difference between the parties is the voters. The reason the Democrats are better is because WE as people are better people.

The right wingers won't complain about the bankers. The bankers can have as much as they want. Don't worry about inflation or the debt until Obama wants to spend some money.

Let's keep in mind that the house that passed all these monies around had their grimey little paws out...yes...Democrats too.

You're better people??? STFU.

OMG, you didn't even read what was posted. No wonder the bankers took over. It was easy because people are clueless. Do you understand the 2 trillion did not go thru government? They gave the 2 trillion FIRST and then lied to us and said they needed $750 billion more.

If you knew how much a trillion was you'd be angry. Or, if you weren't controlled by the righties and media who tell you when to get mad, you'd realize the $750 billion was similar to how a magician distracts you with one hand and does the trick with the other.

Now if you are or were angry about the $750 billion or the $30 billion to the auto companies, consider that 1 trillion is 1000 billions. Is that correct? Did I hear that right? So the Federal Reserve gave 2000 billion dollars to the banks and AIG before ever coming to us for the $750.

And they won't even tell our politicans who got the money.

And here is the problem with Americans. You will vote for the GOP who protect these bankers.

And you'll say the Dems protect them too, but right now Dems and Ron Paul (long republican) are trying to take them on but you are busy teabagging Obama.

If you joined us in telling them to take back the country from the bankers, we would win. But instead you are crying about socialism and crying for free market capitalism when that means you defend the bankers to have free reign over us. Don't regulate them. The are PRIVATE bankers and you are crying to privatize everything.

Yes America should be pro business, but being pro corporations being more powerful than our government and owning the process is what you defend. Learn the difference.

It is a joke to say "dems too". Of course Dems too. But do you really understand the game and what's going on in order to change it? No you do not.

 

[Avatar4321]

And you guys are crying about $750 billion?

Notice this was done last year on Bush's watch?

This probably happens all the time and we just never hear about it. It is time to take back the Federal Reserve from the bankers that own it.

Why we are trusting greedy bankers instead of our own government is beyond me.

Stop thinking your government is the enemy. They only are if they are siding with these criminals!!!

http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/106443/why_won't_the_federal_reserve_say_who_they_gave_$2_trillion_to/

Yet it's Obama who isnt telling where the money went...

 

[oreo]

And you guys are crying about $750 billion?

Notice this was done last year on Bush's watch?

This probably happens all the time and we just never hear about it. It is time to take back the Federal Reserve from the bankers that own it.

Why we are trusting greedy bankers instead of our own government is beyond me.

Stop thinking your government is the enemy. They only are if they are siding with these criminals!!!

http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/106443/why_won't_the_federal_reserve_say_who_they_gave_$2_trillion_to/

All of these agencies including AIG--Fannie--Freddie were DEREGULATED during the Clinton administration.

Fannie Mae Eases Credit To Aid Mortgage Lending - The New York Times

You liberals have got to get off of "it's always" Bush's fault--because you're just becoming way to easy to debate.

No--I don't trust the federal government because they are in effect the makers of this current GLOBAL economic collapse. In fact, I can't think of one single thing that they have worked their fingers into over the last 70 years that they haven't screwed up--costing the taxpayers of this country trillions. Social Security/Medicare will be the next economic calamity.

Why anyone would trust the Federal Government---dictate private industry & try to run it--is completely beyond my comprehension. To any politician the number 1 concern is personal political gain--aka getting re-elected. What's good for the country is put way down in the bottom drawer.

As far as the federal reserve--you are posting a message out of a blog--there is no link for proof as to what you're stating. The Federal reserve has to remain independant from the Federal government. They cannot be politically motived--like the government is.

"Government is not the solution, it's the problem" Ronald Reagan

 

[DamnYankee]

And you guys are crying about $750 billion?

Notice this was done last year on Bush's watch?

This probably happens all the time and we just never hear about it. It is time to take back the Federal Reserve from the bankers that own it.

Why we are trusting greedy bankers instead of our own government is beyond me.

Stop thinking your government is the enemy. They only are if they are siding with these criminals!!!

http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/106443/why_won't_the_federal_reserve_say_who_they_gave_$2_trillion_to/

Wow.... Just before this nice little speech you gave me....

http://www.usmessageboard.com/econo...the-store-at-the-fed-reserve.html#post1248325

 

[sealybobo]

And you guys are crying about $750 billion?

Notice this was done last year on Bush's watch?

This probably happens all the time and we just never hear about it. It is time to take back the Federal Reserve from the bankers that own it.

Why we are trusting greedy bankers instead of our own government is beyond me.

Stop thinking your government is the enemy. They only are if they are siding with these criminals!!!

http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/106443/why_won't_the_federal_reserve_say_who_they_gave_$2_trillion_to/

Yet it's Obama who isnt telling where the money went...

This was before Obama was president.

And duh, of course Obama knows about this. But just look at how YOU know about it and you don't seem to care. So when the masses are braindead, he can only do so much.

If you and me call him and demand they support Ron Paul and/or Bernie Sanders call to audit the Fed and/or put it back under government control, they'll do it. But we all got to call. But you won't, because Fox hasn't made a big deal out of this. And MSNBC hasn't either. They're probably owned by the banks. And you're owned by the GOP. So I give you this nugget and you get distracted with god gays and guns.

But at least you now know. The bankers last year gave $2 trillion to themselves. Do you realize how much more that is than $750 bill? I don't think you do. It is 2000 billion. I might be wrong. Its too big for me to grasp too! So go teabag about this.

 

[sealybobo]

And you guys are crying about $750 billion?

Notice this was done last year on Bush's watch?

This probably happens all the time and we just never hear about it. It is time to take back the Federal Reserve from the bankers that own it.

Why we are trusting greedy bankers instead of our own government is beyond me.

Stop thinking your government is the enemy. They only are if they are siding with these criminals!!!

http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/106443/why_won't_the_federal_reserve_say_who_they_gave_$2_trillion_to/

All of these agencies including AIG--Fannie--Freddie were DEREGULATED during the Clinton administration.

Fannie Mae Eases Credit To Aid Mortgage Lending - The New York Times

You liberals have got to get off of "it's always" Bush's fault--because you're just becoming way to easy to debate.

No--I don't trust the federal government because they are in effect the makers of this current GLOBAL economic collapse. In fact, I can't think of one single thing that they have worked their fingers into over the last 70 years that they haven't screwed up--costing the taxpayers of this country trillions. Social Security/Medicare will be the next economic calamity.

Why anyone would trust the Federal Government---dictate private industry & try to run it--is completely beyond my comprehension. To any politician the number 1 concern is personal political gain--aka getting re-elected. What's good for the country is put way down in the bottom drawer.

As far as the federal reserve--you are posting a message out of a blog--there is no link for proof as to what you're stating. The Federal reserve has to remain independant from the Federal government. They cannot be politically motived--like the government is.

"Government is not the solution, it's the problem" Ronald Reagan

Its not the GOP's fault. It's not the Dems fault. It's YOUR FAULT!!!

You won't do shit about the private bankers or any private corporations.

You were all for deregulations. So Clinton had to and Bush loved to. With citizens like you, who's gonna stop the private bankers.

Remember, I hate the rich. That's what you say to liberals when we point out that the bankers are the problem.

You, like other righties, are just parrots. Rush tells you GOVERNMENTS the problem, GOVERNMENTS the problem and you repeat it.

He never taught you MEGA CORPORATIONS are the problem. Well here I man trying to teach you. Ron Paul's trying to teach you to.

But all the "liberal" media has to do is bring up God gays and Guns and you will fucking forget this problem so fast. Because you are easily distracted. Most dumb american voters are. Everyone thinks they are different. Even the stupid people think they are smart. Right? You think you are smart, right?

 

[sealybobo]

And you guys are crying about $750 billion?

Notice this was done last year on Bush's watch?

This probably happens all the time and we just never hear about it. It is time to take back the Federal Reserve from the bankers that own it.

Why we are trusting greedy bankers instead of our own government is beyond me.

Stop thinking your government is the enemy. They only are if they are siding with these criminals!!!

http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/106443/why_won't_the_federal_reserve_say_who_they_gave_$2_trillion_to/

Wow.... Just before this nice little speech you gave me....

http://www.usmessageboard.com/econo...the-store-at-the-fed-reserve.html#post1248325

I stand by what I said retard. All I did was point out that this was done on Bush's watch, because guys like you want to make this about Obama/Pelosi.

I bet you can not stop arguing with me and admit that we need to take control away from these private bankers.

Fuck Dem/GOP. Stop it you fucking moron. Lets focus on the Robber Baron's raping your country. The more we go into debt, the better it is for them. This Depression was done by design.

Yes, Clinton signed NAFTA, but HW Bush ceremoniously signed it first before Clinton kicked his ass. And Clinton was a sellout. Is that what you wanted to hear? Yes, he was just as bad as Bush 1 & 2. And actually, all this shit started on Reagan's watch. You want to start talking about who started breaking unions and giving the rich unfair tax breaks and deregulating? It was Reagan. But it wasn't that braindead chimp either. Just like it wasn't GW Bush. They were just figureheads. The bankers pulled their strings too.

Now Obama will only fix the problem if YOU call him and tell him that the private bankers are the problem. They have too much power.

But you can't do that. You can only say SOCIALISM and FREE TRADE and CLINTON DID IT. Fucking parrots.

 

[Hammerhead]

how about we just do away with the FED, and put the gold back as backing to the U.S. dollar

 

[sealybobo]

how about we just do away with the FED, and put the gold back as backing to the U.S. dollar

Exactly. And don't let the private bankers distract you with discussing why the gold standard isn't possible. Who cares? Whether it is possible or not, the one thing that is possible is that we do away with the Fed.

And again, where is the "liberal media" on this story?

2 trillion? We found this out, Bloomberg is suing the Federal Reserve, and this isn't front page?

Oh yea, it could cause a run on the banks and we worry that could cause another crash. FUCK THAT. Anyone buying that bullshit? They won't tell us who they gave the 2 trillion dollars to??? And people can even defend that? Or that's their best excuse? FUCK THAT!!!

 

[sealybobo]

how about we just do away with the FED, and put the gold back as backing to the U.S. dollar

The Fed made the loans under 11 programs in response to the biggest financial crisis since the Great Depression. The total doesn't include an additional $700 billion approved by Congress in a bailout package.

Bloomberg Sues Fed to Force Disclosure of Collateral (Update1) - Bloomberg.com

Bloomberg News on May 21 asked the Fed to provide data on the collateral posted between April 4 and May 20. The central bank said on June 19 that it needed until July 3 to search out the documents and determine whether it would make them public. Bloomberg never received a formal response that would enable it to file an appeal. On Oct. 25, Bloomberg filed another request and has yet to receive a reply.

The Fed staff planned to recommend that Bloomberg's request be denied under an exemption protecting ``confidential commercial information,''

 

[DamnYankee]

And you guys are crying about $750 billion?

Notice this was done last year on Bush's watch?

This probably happens all the time and we just never hear about it. It is time to take back the Federal Reserve from the bankers that own it.

Why we are trusting greedy bankers instead of our own government is beyond me.

Stop thinking your government is the enemy. They only are if they are siding with these criminals!!!

http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/106443/why_won't_the_federal_reserve_say_who_they_gave_$2_trillion_to/

Wow.... Just before this nice little speech you gave me....

http://www.usmessageboard.com/econo...the-store-at-the-fed-reserve.html#post1248325

I stand by what I said retard. All I did was point out that this was done on Bush's watch, because guys like you want to make this about Obama/Pelosi.

I bet you can not stop arguing with me and admit that we need to take control away from these private bankers.

Fuck Dem/GOP. Stop it you fucking moron. Lets focus on the Robber Baron's raping your country. The more we go into debt, the better it is for them. This Depression was done by design.

Yes, Clinton signed NAFTA, but HW Bush ceremoniously signed it first before Clinton kicked his ass. And Clinton was a sellout. Is that what you wanted to hear? Yes, he was just as bad as Bush 1 & 2. And actually, all this shit started on Reagan's watch. You want to start talking about who started breaking unions and giving the rich unfair tax breaks and deregulating? It was Reagan. But it wasn't that braindead chimp either. Just like it wasn't GW Bush. They were just figureheads. The bankers pulled their strings too.

Now Obama will only fix the problem if YOU call him and tell him that the private bankers are the problem. They have too much power.

But you can't do that. You can only say SOCIALISM and FREE TRADE and CLINTON DID IT. Fucking parrots.

One would think that a mind-reader such as yourself would know that pay-back is a bitch....

 

[Sweet Willy]

The Federal Reserve has a solution to the cash problems. They have done this before, they know how to handle it.

When the Gold Standard was removed, there were still US backed gold and silver certificates floating around. Part of the job of converting over to a fiat system was to collect all these gold and silver backed notes. The Depression helped most Americans get off of the gold and silver notes they were holding. Then they were declared ILLEGAL to posess. Nearly everyone spent their notes before they were declared illegal. What this did was to relieve the obligation to reconcile the notes with the gold they were purported to represent.

Fast forward to today. There is a vast amount of electronic currency floating around. Credits and debits. Just like with the gold standard, it is a very, very dangerous propositon if we were to ever see a large movement to reconcile electronic credits with actual currency or products. There simply have been too many electronic dollars created by fractional reserve policy. There is no actual value, much less currency attached to them.

The Federal Reserve plan to cure this is the same as the Gold plan. It has already begun. Switch everyone over to electronic currency and outlaw cash. Thus, there is no day of reckoning for reconciling our cash against the imaginary electronic money they have issued. They get away with the next heist of the century. And they are even more crafty about it this time. Hoards of Americans have already fallen for direct deposit and debit cards. You never even hold your money. You take a government credit redeemable in goods, not a measure of gold, not a denomination of cash, goods only.

It is the future and there is no stopping it. It has, for all intents, already happened. The wealthy and the few smart enough to find the cracks in the system will still deal in precious comodities. The masses will trade in worthless blips of electrons and actually PAY for the priviledge of doing so.