Federal Employee Union Sues Government Over Shutdown, Alleging Wage Violations

[depotoo]

Blame the Democrats, if they had helped pass a 2019 budget, none of this would be happening.

It was passed. Trump childishly refused to sign it.

True - and previously saying he would sign it.

He signed it for a short time, as Dems promised to work with him over the funding. They didn’t, now it is shut down.-

We're not backing down," Mulvaney responded. "Keep in mind this is just, this bill is just for the last five months of this year. We're actually, almost more than halfway through fiscal year '17, we're only talking about through the end of September. The discussion for what to do with fiscal year '18, which starts October 1st, the discussion actually starts as soon as this bill is signed so we're going to continue these conversations.

"We just thought it would be a good first step to get these things that everybody agrees on and take the idea of a government shutdown off the table."

Trump promised many times in the presidential campaign that he would construct a border wall on the southern border and make Mexico pay for it. But as the budget deadline gets closer, the Democrats have threatened to shut the government down rather than include the $1 billion requested by the Trump administration to begin construction.”
Mulvaney confirms Trump will sign budget bill that excludes border wall funding


This is on the Dems.

 

[BULLDOG]

Blame the Democrats, if they had helped pass a 2019 budget, none of this would be happening.

It was passed. Trump childishly refused to sign it.

True - and previously saying he would sign it.

He signed it for a short time, as Dems promised to work with him over the funding. They didn’t, now it is shut down.-

We're not backing down," Mulvaney responded. "Keep in mind this is just, this bill is just for the last five months of this year. We're actually, almost more than halfway through fiscal year '17, we're only talking about through the end of September. The discussion for what to do with fiscal year '18, which starts October 1st, the discussion actually starts as soon as this bill is signed so we're going to continue these conversations.

"We just thought it would be a good first step to get these things that everybody agrees on and take the idea of a government shutdown off the table."

Trump promised many times in the presidential campaign that he would construct a border wall on the southern border and make Mexico pay for it. But as the budget deadline gets closer, the Democrats have threatened to shut the government down rather than include the $1 billion requested by the Trump administration to begin construction.”
Mulvaney confirms Trump will sign budget bill that excludes border wall funding


This is on the Dems.

If Mexico is going to pay for it, why does he want our tax money?

 

[Lakhota]

Blame the Democrats, if they had helped pass a 2019 budget, none of this would be happening.

It was passed. Trump childishly refused to sign it.

True - and previously saying he would sign it.

He signed it for a short time, as Dems promised to work with him over the funding. They didn’t, now it is shut down.-

We're not backing down," Mulvaney responded. "Keep in mind this is just, this bill is just for the last five months of this year. We're actually, almost more than halfway through fiscal year '17, we're only talking about through the end of September. The discussion for what to do with fiscal year '18, which starts October 1st, the discussion actually starts as soon as this bill is signed so we're going to continue these conversations.

"We just thought it would be a good first step to get these things that everybody agrees on and take the idea of a government shutdown off the table."

Trump promised many times in the presidential campaign that he would construct a border wall on the southern border and make Mexico pay for it. But as the budget deadline gets closer, the Democrats have threatened to shut the government down rather than include the $1 billion requested by the Trump administration to begin construction.”
Mulvaney confirms Trump will sign budget bill that excludes border wall funding


This is on the Dems.

He signed it for a short time? What the hell does that mean? Proof? Link?

 

[saveliberty]

If Mexico is going to pay for it, why does he want our tax money?

Mexico funds it indirectly, for example:

While Trump’s team has not reached a consensus, leading proposals include adding a small percentage fee on money sent by individuals in the United States to recipients in Mexico.

Another is directing a surplus in revenue from a revised trade agreement with Mexico and Canada.

 

[BULLDOG]

If Mexico is going to pay for it, why does he want our tax money?

Mexico funds it indirectly, for example:

While Trump’s team has not reached a consensus, leading proposals include adding a small percentage fee on money sent by individuals in the United States to recipients in Mexico.

Another is directing a surplus in revenue from a revised trade agreement with Mexico and Canada.

Great. Go do that and quit trying to take my tax money.

 

[depotoo]

Uh, read the link. He signed it for 5 months, dear, with the promise from the Dems to work with him. They haven’t.

Blame the Democrats, if they had helped pass a 2019 budget, none of this would be happening.

It was passed. Trump childishly refused to sign it.

True - and previously saying he would sign it.

He signed it for a short time, as Dems promised to work with him over the funding. They didn’t, now it is shut down.-

We're not backing down," Mulvaney responded. "Keep in mind this is just, this bill is just for the last five months of this year. We're actually, almost more than halfway through fiscal year '17, we're only talking about through the end of September. The discussion for what to do with fiscal year '18, which starts October 1st, the discussion actually starts as soon as this bill is signed so we're going to continue these conversations.

"We just thought it would be a good first step to get these things that everybody agrees on and take the idea of a government shutdown off the table."

Trump promised many times in the presidential campaign that he would construct a border wall on the southern border and make Mexico pay for it. But as the budget deadline gets closer, the Democrats have threatened to shut the government down rather than include the $1 billion requested by the Trump administration to begin construction.”
Mulvaney confirms Trump will sign budget bill that excludes border wall funding


This is on the Dems.

He signed it for a short time? What the hell does that mean? Proof? Link?

 

[22lcidw]

I don't really care about these federal workers. They are parasites off those of us who work in the private sector and don't have all the protections they do.

Yes, clearly a govt of, by, for the people is parasitic, while a govt of, by, for concentrated corporate state wealth and power is fweedumb.

Well tell us our choices for president as we get two every 4 years. Just in the beltway region of D.C. its like the rich mainline of cities with the amount of government employees living a good life. And of course the areas are turning deep blue. And why wouldn't they? Spread that wealth to the rest of the people. I envision a whole nation of government employees earning a great living. I'm in.

 

[Lakhota]

Uh, read the link. He signed it for 5 months, dear, with the promise from the Dems to work with him. They haven’t.

Blame the Democrats, if they had helped pass a 2019 budget, none of this would be happening.

It was passed. Trump childishly refused to sign it.

True - and previously saying he would sign it.

He signed it for a short time, as Dems promised to work with him over the funding. They didn’t, now it is shut down.-

We're not backing down," Mulvaney responded. "Keep in mind this is just, this bill is just for the last five months of this year. We're actually, almost more than halfway through fiscal year '17, we're only talking about through the end of September. The discussion for what to do with fiscal year '18, which starts October 1st, the discussion actually starts as soon as this bill is signed so we're going to continue these conversations.

"We just thought it would be a good first step to get these things that everybody agrees on and take the idea of a government shutdown off the table."

Trump promised many times in the presidential campaign that he would construct a border wall on the southern border and make Mexico pay for it. But as the budget deadline gets closer, the Democrats have threatened to shut the government down rather than include the $1 billion requested by the Trump administration to begin construction.”
Mulvaney confirms Trump will sign budget bill that excludes border wall funding


This is on the Dems.

He signed it for a short time? What the hell does that mean? Proof? Link?

Wow, sounds like he's an idiot negotiator.

 

[BS Filter]

Trump offered to meet, Dems refused. It is their shut down.

Funny. Why meet with him? He wants $5 billion for wall - Nancy says NO. Go Nancy! Trump shut the government down.

Why? If they want to govt shut down to end, they will. They won’t, they don’t. Plain and simple.

And give in to blackmail? Never.

If it was a Democrat President, you'd accuse Republicans of playing partisan politics and demanding they be bipartisan. We've become very familiar with the game y'all play.

 

[JustAnotherNut]

So did this union, or any union sue the government every time it was shutdown, or just Trumps government???

 

[Desperado]

HOLIDAY HELL FOR UNPAID TSA AGENTS

Officers are worried about how they’ll pay rent or feed their families if the crisis drags on.

Transportation Security Administration employees, who are staffing airports at one of the busiest travel times of the year, are dealing with low morale, frustration at Washington and uncertainty over how they’ll pay rent or feed their families if the government shutdown drags on.

The shutdown is making the already stressful task of securing airports over the holidays even more difficult and demoralizing, TSA officers told HuffPost, all on the condition of anonymity, fearing repercussions at their jobs.

Although Trump has said that federal workers want him to hold out in shutdown negotiations until he gets his way, the TSA employees who talked with HuffPost had a very different message.

“While Congress and Mr. Trump get to stay home, enjoy their personal time with their families, and still get paid, we have to struggle and suffer,” a Transportation Security Officer told HuffPost in an email. The officer, a single mother, now worries how she’ll take care of her kids if the shutdown drags on.

“Most of us live paycheck to paycheck and cannot afford to be unpaid and still go to work for long. It is not fair,” she said.

“To say morale is low is an understatement. People on both sides of the political argument are infuriated at this,” another TSA officer said. “We feel completely and utterly unappreciated.”

TSA Workers Vent Anger At Shutdown As They Work Without Pay Over Holidays

Sad at any time - but especially during the Christmas holidays.

TSA does not deserve to get paid as they do not provide a worthwhile service so it is poetic justice they are not receiving a paycheck

 

[depotoo]

No, the Dem’s don’t act in faith.

Uh, read the link. He signed it for 5 months, dear, with the promise from the Dems to work with him. They haven’t.

It was passed. Trump childishly refused to sign it.

True - and previously saying he would sign it.

He signed it for a short time, as Dems promised to work with him over the funding. They didn’t, now it is shut down.-

We're not backing down," Mulvaney responded. "Keep in mind this is just, this bill is just for the last five months of this year. We're actually, almost more than halfway through fiscal year '17, we're only talking about through the end of September. The discussion for what to do with fiscal year '18, which starts October 1st, the discussion actually starts as soon as this bill is signed so we're going to continue these conversations.

"We just thought it would be a good first step to get these things that everybody agrees on and take the idea of a government shutdown off the table."

Trump promised many times in the presidential campaign that he would construct a border wall on the southern border and make Mexico pay for it. But as the budget deadline gets closer, the Democrats have threatened to shut the government down rather than include the $1 billion requested by the Trump administration to begin construction.”
Mulvaney confirms Trump will sign budget bill that excludes border wall funding


This is on the Dems.

He signed it for a short time? What the hell does that mean? Proof? Link?

Wow, sounds like he's an idiot negotiator.

 

[Lakhota]

HOLIDAY HELL FOR UNPAID TSA AGENTS

Officers are worried about how they’ll pay rent or feed their families if the crisis drags on.

Transportation Security Administration employees, who are staffing airports at one of the busiest travel times of the year, are dealing with low morale, frustration at Washington and uncertainty over how they’ll pay rent or feed their families if the government shutdown drags on.

The shutdown is making the already stressful task of securing airports over the holidays even more difficult and demoralizing, TSA officers told HuffPost, all on the condition of anonymity, fearing repercussions at their jobs.

Although Trump has said that federal workers want him to hold out in shutdown negotiations until he gets his way, the TSA employees who talked with HuffPost had a very different message.

“While Congress and Mr. Trump get to stay home, enjoy their personal time with their families, and still get paid, we have to struggle and suffer,” a Transportation Security Officer told HuffPost in an email. The officer, a single mother, now worries how she’ll take care of her kids if the shutdown drags on.

“Most of us live paycheck to paycheck and cannot afford to be unpaid and still go to work for long. It is not fair,” she said.

“To say morale is low is an understatement. People on both sides of the political argument are infuriated at this,” another TSA officer said. “We feel completely and utterly unappreciated.”

TSA Workers Vent Anger At Shutdown As They Work Without Pay Over Holidays

Sad at any time - but especially during the Christmas holidays.

TSA does not deserve to get paid as they do not provide a worthwhile service so it is poetic justice they are not receiving a paycheck

Proof? Links?

 

[BULLDOG]

Trump offered to meet, Dems refused. It is their shut down.

Funny. Why meet with him? He wants $5 billion for wall - Nancy says NO. Go Nancy! Trump shut the government down.

Why? If they want to govt shut down to end, they will. They won’t, they don’t. Plain and simple.

And give in to blackmail? Never.

If it was a Democrat President, you'd accuse Republicans of playing partisan politics and demanding they be bipartisan. We've become very familiar with the game y'all play.

You mean like the Rs did for the entire 8 years of our last presidents terms?

 

[Lakhota]

Trump offered to meet, Dems refused. It is their shut down.

Funny. Why meet with him? He wants $5 billion for wall - Nancy says NO. Go Nancy! Trump shut the government down.

Why? If they want to govt shut down to end, they will. They won’t, they don’t. Plain and simple.

And give in to blackmail? Never.

If it was a Democrat President, you'd accuse Republicans of playing partisan politics and demanding they be bipartisan. We've become very familiar with the game y'all play.

You mean like the Rs did for the entire 8 years of our last presidents terms?

Amen! How can we ever forget the obstructionist Republicans!?

 

[eagle1462010]

Takes a long time to get a lawsuit through the courts...........good luck. Your going to need it.

 

[BS Filter]

Trump offered to meet, Dems refused. It is their shut down.

Funny. Why meet with him? He wants $5 billion for wall - Nancy says NO. Go Nancy! Trump shut the government down.

Why? If they want to govt shut down to end, they will. They won’t, they don’t. Plain and simple.

And give in to blackmail? Never.

If it was a Democrat President, you'd accuse Republicans of playing partisan politics and demanding they be bipartisan. We've become very familiar with the game y'all play.

You mean like the Rs did for the entire 8 years of our last presidents terms?

No, I mean like when republicans tried to get some of their ideas into Obamacare and Obama and democrats told them to go pound sand. If you want to go down this road you better have some arrows in your quiver or you're gonna look even dumber than you already are.

 

[NightFox]

The union said employees can’t be forced to work without pay.

Yep, that's right, so do the prudent thing and quit, let's see how you fare in the private sector where results matter and excuses don't.

#NoSympathyForGovernmentDrones

 

[longknife]

Trump offered to meet, Dems refused. It is their shut down.

Funny. Why meet with him? He wants $5 billion for wall - Nancy says NO. Go Nancy! Trump shut the government down.

You really love posting stuff like this, don't you Lakota?
It makes no difference that there is far more to the story than meets the eye. This is just another way for a union to do what it can to overturn the president's constitutional exercise of executive control over his branch. They seeks a friendly judge and hang everything up for months, with taxpayers ending up with the bill.

 

[longknife]

Blame the Democrats, if they had helped pass a 2019 budget, none of this would be happening.

It was passed. Trump childishly refused to sign it.

Really?
One resolution passed the House and a different one passed the Senate. The way things work, the two were supposed to be worked out in conference to then face the requirement that the resulting resolution was to be passed by a 2/3 majority in both houses.
That 2/3 majority was a pipe dream.
Nothing was sent to the president for his signature!