FDR knew!

[gipper]

I am not defending Japan's actions...dumb ass.

You have condemned Dipshit W for his war, while commending FDR for his. Yet there is little difference except that FDR caused the deaths of far more people, leading to decades of suffering and Cold War.

HYPOCRITE!!!!

Iraq was not a threat...Japan was

You lose

idiot...FDR MADE Japan a threat.

If only statists could learn....oh what wonderful peaceful world it would be.....peace is something they hate.

FDR along with plenty of supporters refused to allow authoritarian dictatorships like Imperial Japan and Nazi Germany dictate and order America about who American could or could not trade with and decide upon the kind of relationships it could have. Germany tried to dictate a halt in trade between the USA and Great Britain and began sinking American ships and killing American sailors. Japan demanded supplies be traded to them that were then used to commit and facilitate gross war crimes and atrocities. We wanted no part in those war crimes and atrocities and had a sovereign right and obligation to refuse participation in them. We did the right and moral thing.

FDR should have been shot for treason.

Instead, he became one of America's most beloved Presidents that was elected four times and rated as one of America's greatest Presidents alongside Washington, Jefferson, and Lincoln. So it is your opinion opposed to seventy years or more of generations of Americans that probably number in the hundreds of millions of citizens.

Historical facts are difficult for statists to accept.

 

[Camp]

Iraq was not a threat...Japan was

You lose

idiot...FDR MADE Japan a threat.

If only statists could learn....oh what wonderful peaceful world it would be.....peace is something they hate.

FDR along with plenty of supporters refused to allow authoritarian dictatorships like Imperial Japan and Nazi Germany dictate and order America about who American could or could not trade with and decide upon the kind of relationships it could have. Germany tried to dictate a halt in trade between the USA and Great Britain and began sinking American ships and killing American sailors. Japan demanded supplies be traded to them that were then used to commit and facilitate gross war crimes and atrocities. We wanted no part in those war crimes and atrocities and had a sovereign right and obligation to refuse participation in them. We did the right and moral thing.

FDR should have been shot for treason.

Instead, he became one of America's most beloved Presidents that was elected four times and rated as one of America's greatest Presidents alongside Washington, Jefferson, and Lincoln. So it is your opinion opposed to seventy years or more of generations of Americans that probably number in the hundreds of millions of citizens.

Historical facts are difficult for statists to accept.

I don't see facts coming from you Gipper. I see old worn out conspiracy theory mumbo jumbo that has been debunked for decades. What is really insane is that the President-elect appears to be the most likely President to mimic FDR in over 80 years. If there is one legacy Trump would like to mimic, it is the great builder FDR. It will be frustrating for Trump when he realizes he will never hold a candle to the building accomplishments of FDR. The Republican congress will just never give him the tools.

 

[gipper]

idiot...FDR MADE Japan a threat.

If only statists could learn....oh what wonderful peaceful world it would be.....peace is something they hate.

FDR along with plenty of supporters refused to allow authoritarian dictatorships like Imperial Japan and Nazi Germany dictate and order America about who American could or could not trade with and decide upon the kind of relationships it could have. Germany tried to dictate a halt in trade between the USA and Great Britain and began sinking American ships and killing American sailors. Japan demanded supplies be traded to them that were then used to commit and facilitate gross war crimes and atrocities. We wanted no part in those war crimes and atrocities and had a sovereign right and obligation to refuse participation in them. We did the right and moral thing.

FDR should have been shot for treason.

Instead, he became one of America's most beloved Presidents that was elected four times and rated as one of America's greatest Presidents alongside Washington, Jefferson, and Lincoln. So it is your opinion opposed to seventy years or more of generations of Americans that probably number in the hundreds of millions of citizens.

Historical facts are difficult for statists to accept.

I don't see facts coming from you Gipper. I see old worn out conspiracy theory mumbo jumbo that has been debunked for decades. What is really insane is that the President-elect appears to be the most likely President to mimic FDR in over 80 years. If there is one legacy Trump would like to mimic, it is the great builder FDR. It will be frustrating for Trump when he realizes he will never hold a candle to the building accomplishments of FDR. The Republican congress will just never give him the tools.

That is the problem with you murderous statists, facts that oppose your tyrannical world view are unacceptable.

 

[Lewdog]

I don't really think that Trump wants to be like FDR as much as he wants to be like Eisenhower. The only differences being, Eisenhower didn't really like the Russians, but he was against what McCarthy was doing, Eisenhower worked to build Social Security while it looks like Trump will work to hurt it, and Eisenhower created NASA and I'm not real sure if Trump will cut it's budget or not.

 

[Dr Grump]

The only thing Trump cares about is Trump. Period.

 

[Camp]

FDR along with plenty of supporters refused to allow authoritarian dictatorships like Imperial Japan and Nazi Germany dictate and order America about who American could or could not trade with and decide upon the kind of relationships it could have. Germany tried to dictate a halt in trade between the USA and Great Britain and began sinking American ships and killing American sailors. Japan demanded supplies be traded to them that were then used to commit and facilitate gross war crimes and atrocities. We wanted no part in those war crimes and atrocities and had a sovereign right and obligation to refuse participation in them. We did the right and moral thing.

FDR should have been shot for treason.

Instead, he became one of America's most beloved Presidents that was elected four times and rated as one of America's greatest Presidents alongside Washington, Jefferson, and Lincoln. So it is your opinion opposed to seventy years or more of generations of Americans that probably number in the hundreds of millions of citizens.

Historical facts are difficult for statists to accept.

I don't see facts coming from you Gipper. I see old worn out conspiracy theory mumbo jumbo that has been debunked for decades. What is really insane is that the President-elect appears to be the most likely President to mimic FDR in over 80 years. If there is one legacy Trump would like to mimic, it is the great builder FDR. It will be frustrating for Trump when he realizes he will never hold a candle to the building accomplishments of FDR. The Republican congress will just never give him the tools.

That is the problem with you murderous statists, facts that oppose your tyrannical world view are unacceptable.

Proven facts are what they are and subjective allegations are what they are. The sailors who sent the message of radar readings of large contingents of aircraft heading towards Pearl Harbor never changed their story through multiple congressional hearings. The Naval officer never denied receiving and misinterpreting the message he received. He admitted that he had little knowledge of the new technology and considered the warning report as referring to B-17's being delivered from the opposite direction. That is just one example of debunking the conspiracy theory. A viable and valid warning system was in place.

The British had developed torpedos that could launch and be effective in shallow water. The intelligence data was not shared.

A warning message was sent from Washington D.C. to Pearl Harbor but is was sent by a slow method of delivery and did not get to Pearl in time to avert the disaster

These are genuine facts. What you spew are speculations based on speculation.

 

[regent]

In any case American historians have never rated FDR lower than America's third greatest president. I wonder if the historians are aware of the Pearl Harbor charges made against FDR? Seems like they should, being America's best historians and rating presidents since 1948.
In the last rating the historians rated FDR, America.s greatest.
The people voted for FDR four times, a record that might stand as long as America.
That must hurt Republicans because they keep bringing up the same charges investigated so many times by Congress, Republicans and others.

 

[rightwinger]

In any case American historians have never rated FDR lower than America's third greatest president. I wonder if the historians are aware of the Pearl Harbor charges made against FDR? Seems like they should, being America's best historians and rating presidents since 1948.
In the last rating the historians rated FDR, America.s greatest.
The people voted for FDR four times, a record that might stand as long as America.
That must hurt Republicans because they keep bringing up the same charges investigated so many times by Congress, Republicans and others.

FDR saved Democracy in the world

Without FDR ......France, Germany, Norway, Belgium, Netherlands, Italy, Greece, Austria, Japan, Philippines, S Korea would all be under Nazi/Japanese control

 

[gipper]

In any case American historians have never rated FDR lower than America's third greatest president. I wonder if the historians are aware of the Pearl Harbor charges made against FDR? Seems like they should, being America's best historians and rating presidents since 1948.
In the last rating the historians rated FDR, America.s greatest.
The people voted for FDR four times, a record that might stand as long as America.
That must hurt Republicans because they keep bringing up the same charges investigated so many times by Congress, Republicans and others.

FDR saved Democracy in the world

Without FDR ......France, Germany, Norway, Belgium, Netherlands, Italy, Greece, Austria, Japan, Philippines, S Korea would all be under Nazi/Japanese control

Hang him. Hang him high.

 

[rightwinger]

In any case American historians have never rated FDR lower than America's third greatest president. I wonder if the historians are aware of the Pearl Harbor charges made against FDR? Seems like they should, being America's best historians and rating presidents since 1948.
In the last rating the historians rated FDR, America.s greatest.
The people voted for FDR four times, a record that might stand as long as America.
That must hurt Republicans because they keep bringing up the same charges investigated so many times by Congress, Republicans and others.

FDR saved Democracy in the world

Without FDR ......France, Germany, Norway, Belgium, Netherlands, Italy, Greece, Austria, Japan, Philippines, S Korea would all be under Nazi/Japanese control

Hang him. Hang him high.

But then again, there are those posters who are still upset that the Nazis didn't win

That is why they despise FDR....the man who saved the free world

 

[gipper]

In any case American historians have never rated FDR lower than America's third greatest president. I wonder if the historians are aware of the Pearl Harbor charges made against FDR? Seems like they should, being America's best historians and rating presidents since 1948.
In the last rating the historians rated FDR, America.s greatest.
The people voted for FDR four times, a record that might stand as long as America.
That must hurt Republicans because they keep bringing up the same charges investigated so many times by Congress, Republicans and others.

FDR saved Democracy in the world

Without FDR ......France, Germany, Norway, Belgium, Netherlands, Italy, Greece, Austria, Japan, Philippines, S Korea would all be under Nazi/Japanese control

Hang him. Hang him high.

But then again, there are those posters who are still upset that the Nazis didn't win

That is why they despise FDR....the man who saved the free world

Lying America into war is okay by you as long as the POTUS who does it is a D.

Statists are a murderous bunch.

 

[HenryBHough]

The mighty Stalin was pretty much defeated by Hitler's Germany in 2 months.

If Roosevelt didn't enter America into the war, Hitler would have had unopposed control over Europe

Yup. But with Hitler's defeat Europe was doomed to have to wait until The European Union came along to stamp down the heel of fascism.

 

[rightwinger]

In any case American historians have never rated FDR lower than America's third greatest president. I wonder if the historians are aware of the Pearl Harbor charges made against FDR? Seems like they should, being America's best historians and rating presidents since 1948.
In the last rating the historians rated FDR, America.s greatest.
The people voted for FDR four times, a record that might stand as long as America.
That must hurt Republicans because they keep bringing up the same charges investigated so many times by Congress, Republicans and others.

FDR saved Democracy in the world

Without FDR ......France, Germany, Norway, Belgium, Netherlands, Italy, Greece, Austria, Japan, Philippines, S Korea would all be under Nazi/Japanese control

Hang him. Hang him high.

But then again, there are those posters who are still upset that the Nazis didn't win

That is why they despise FDR....the man who saved the free world

Lying America into war is okay by you as long as the POTUS who does it is a D.

Statists are a murderous bunch.

Pearl Harbor was real

 

[Lewdog]

In any case American historians have never rated FDR lower than America's third greatest president. I wonder if the historians are aware of the Pearl Harbor charges made against FDR? Seems like they should, being America's best historians and rating presidents since 1948.
In the last rating the historians rated FDR, America.s greatest.
The people voted for FDR four times, a record that might stand as long as America.
That must hurt Republicans because they keep bringing up the same charges investigated so many times by Congress, Republicans and others.

FDR saved Democracy in the world

Without FDR ......France, Germany, Norway, Belgium, Netherlands, Italy, Greece, Austria, Japan, Philippines, S Korea would all be under Nazi/Japanese control

Hang him. Hang him high.

But then again, there are those posters who are still upset that the Nazis didn't win

That is why they despise FDR....the man who saved the free world

Lying America into war is okay by you as long as the POTUS who does it is a D.

Statists are a murderous bunch.

Pearl Harbor was real

No, it was a false flag event!

 

[gipper]

In any case American historians have never rated FDR lower than America's third greatest president. I wonder if the historians are aware of the Pearl Harbor charges made against FDR? Seems like they should, being America's best historians and rating presidents since 1948.
In the last rating the historians rated FDR, America.s greatest.
The people voted for FDR four times, a record that might stand as long as America.
That must hurt Republicans because they keep bringing up the same charges investigated so many times by Congress, Republicans and others.

FDR saved Democracy in the world

Without FDR ......France, Germany, Norway, Belgium, Netherlands, Italy, Greece, Austria, Japan, Philippines, S Korea would all be under Nazi/Japanese control

Hang him. Hang him high.

But then again, there are those posters who are still upset that the Nazis didn't win

That is why they despise FDR....the man who saved the free world

Lying America into war is okay by you as long as the POTUS who does it is a D.

Statists are a murderous bunch.

Pearl Harbor was real

In your old age, you have learned nothing.

 

[rightwinger]

FDR saved Democracy in the world

Without FDR ......France, Germany, Norway, Belgium, Netherlands, Italy, Greece, Austria, Japan, Philippines, S Korea would all be under Nazi/Japanese control

Hang him. Hang him high.

But then again, there are those posters who are still upset that the Nazis didn't win

That is why they despise FDR....the man who saved the free world

Lying America into war is okay by you as long as the POTUS who does it is a D.

Statists are a murderous bunch.

Pearl Harbor was real

In your old age, you have learned nothing.

I know...it was all made up

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Here is another great column that should have Statists choking on their breakfast.

FDR KNEW...DID NOTHING...SCAPEGOATED COMMANDERS...TO GET HIS WAR...

HE WAS A TRAITOR AND DESERVED TO BE EXECUTED.

Why Did Japan Choose a Suicidal War in 1941?
By Eric Margolis

December 10, 2016

It seems clear by now that President Franklin Roosevelt’s White House knew from deciphered codes that Japan was planning an attack on America’s key naval base in Hawaii. Shamefully, the senior US Navy and Army commanders at Pearl Harbor were not informed of the impending attack. The US Navy’s three aircraft carriers were coincidentally moved far from harm’s way before the attack, leaving only obsolescent World War I battleships in port as sitting ducks.

Roosevelt was eager to get the United States into war against Germany at all costs. But Americans wanted no part of Europe’s war, recalling how British propaganda had deceived America into World War I. The single largest ethnic group in America was of German origin. In the 1880’s, my native New York City was the third most populous German city on earth after Berlin and Hamburg.

Roosevelt, whose sympathies lay far to the left in spite of his patrician background, understood that only a surprise attack would provoke Americans into war.

At the time, the US supplied 80% of Japan’s oil, 100% of its aviation fuel, and much of its metal. Roosevelt demanded Japan vacate China that it had invaded, or face an embargo of these vital strategic materials on which Japan’s industry depended. Japan’s fascist military government refused, as Washington knew it would. A US embargo ensued.

Japan had a one-year strategic reserve of oil. Its stark choice was either run out of oil, fuel, and scrap steel over 12 months or go to war while it still had these resources. The only other potential source of oil for Japan was the distant Dutch East Indies, today Indonesia.

Japan had a choice to roll back its militaristic expansion or go to war with the most powerful economy on earth

They chose wrong

I am not defending Japan's actions...dumb ass.

You have condemned Dipshit W for his war, while commending FDR for his. Yet there is little difference except that FDR caused the deaths of far more people, leading to decades of suffering and Cold War.

HYPOCRITE!!!!

Iraq was not a threat...Japan was

You lose

idiot...FDR MADE Japan a threat.

If only statists could learn....oh what wonderful peaceful world it would be.....peace is something they hate.

Japan invading China and massacring a hundred thousand innocent civilians made them a threat

Nanking Massacre - Wikipedia

Charity Begins at Home, and Should End There, Too

How was that any of our business? Let the natives take care of their own problems or they deserve to get overrun. What kind of people took over after the Japanese left? A country gets the government, and even the foreign occupation, it deserves.

 

[rightwinger]

Japan had a choice to roll back its militaristic expansion or go to war with the most powerful economy on earth

They chose wrong

I am not defending Japan's actions...dumb ass.

You have condemned Dipshit W for his war, while commending FDR for his. Yet there is little difference except that FDR caused the deaths of far more people, leading to decades of suffering and Cold War.

HYPOCRITE!!!!

Iraq was not a threat...Japan was

You lose

idiot...FDR MADE Japan a threat.

If only statists could learn....oh what wonderful peaceful world it would be.....peace is something they hate.

Japan invading China and massacring a hundred thousand innocent civilians made them a threat

Nanking Massacre - Wikipedia

Charity Begins at Home, and Should End There, Too

How was that any of our business? Let the natives take care of their own problems or they deserve to get overrun. What kind of people took over after the Japanese left? A country gets the government, and even the foreign occupation, it deserves.

We decided not to contribute any more military supplies to a government massacring hundreds of thousands of innocents

It's called having a conscience

 

[gipper]

Japan had a choice to roll back its militaristic expansion or go to war with the most powerful economy on earth

They chose wrong

I am not defending Japan's actions...dumb ass.

You have condemned Dipshit W for his war, while commending FDR for his. Yet there is little difference except that FDR caused the deaths of far more people, leading to decades of suffering and Cold War.

HYPOCRITE!!!!

Iraq was not a threat...Japan was

You lose

idiot...FDR MADE Japan a threat.

If only statists could learn....oh what wonderful peaceful world it would be.....peace is something they hate.

Japan invading China and massacring a hundred thousand innocent civilians made them a threat

Nanking Massacre - Wikipedia

Charity Begins at Home, and Should End There, Too

How was that any of our business? Let the natives take care of their own problems or they deserve to get overrun. What kind of people took over after the Japanese left? A country gets the government, and even the foreign occupation, it deserves.

Statists love war because war IS the health of the state... naturally statists like Leftnutter love a very healthy state. Plus they don't care about all the people murdered for their nefarious purposes.

 

[rightwinger]

I am not defending Japan's actions...dumb ass.

You have condemned Dipshit W for his war, while commending FDR for his. Yet there is little difference except that FDR caused the deaths of far more people, leading to decades of suffering and Cold War.

HYPOCRITE!!!!

Iraq was not a threat...Japan was

You lose

idiot...FDR MADE Japan a threat.

If only statists could learn....oh what wonderful peaceful world it would be.....peace is something they hate.

Japan invading China and massacring a hundred thousand innocent civilians made them a threat

Nanking Massacre - Wikipedia

Charity Begins at Home, and Should End There, Too

How was that any of our business? Let the natives take care of their own problems or they deserve to get overrun. What kind of people took over after the Japanese left? A country gets the government, and even the foreign occupation, it deserves.

Statists love war because war IS the health of the state... naturally statists like Leftnutter love a very healthy state. Plus they don't care about all the people murdered for their nefarious purposes.

Which people?