FBI scheduling interviews with 6 lawmakers who encouraged military members to refuse 'illegal orders'

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

You are still clueless

Yet you cannot dispute anything I have said with any facts. What does that say about you?

 

[Zincwarrior]

There is no need for one to have occured.

Procuring any proof is the job of the investigators and grand juries.
You really don't understand how investigations work.

Proof of what? That they posted a video to OBEY THE LAW. MAGAS CAN'T REALIZE HOW INSANE THEY ARE.

 

[22lcidw]

Notice they can't even imagine or invent one possible relevant thing this farce of an investigation might uncover.

Not one single thing. Because they haven't thought that far. They are compulsively behaving per their programming.

Well, the "big club" theory will most likely win again.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Are you predicting they will all take the fifth?

They don't have to say shit.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Yes you are. There needs to be suspicion of a crime.

You say that like there isn't any.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Chill, Democrats!

It is only an interview.

They can have a lawyer present, take the fifth, or fully coopetate, just as they see fit.

What is wrong with a few questions?

Agreed.everyone in the administration will be asked that in three years.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Because I will fight Trump tyranny every step!

And you'll go to federal prison for 10-15 years for it.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

You say that like there isn't any.

So, what is the crime?

 

[M14 Shooter]

Proof of what? That they posted a video...

They did.
And if it can be proven they posted that video with the intent to get servicemen to believe some of their legal orders are illegal, and refuse to follow them, they go to prison.

 

[DonGlock26]

Proof of what? That they posted a video to OBEY THE LAW. MAGAS CAN'T REALIZE HOW INSANE THEY ARE.

We'll see what their intentions were based on their communications, unless they have already destroyed the evidence.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

An investigation may uncover evidence of a criminal conspiracy to foment sedition and mutiny.

There you go! Insane, but we will work with it. Also not supported even in the slightest by the video, so you left out an entire series events thay don't exist anywhere outside of your mind.

And how do you think they will find such evidence? They can't get a warrant based on "This is my MAGAt Christmas list!"

So, how?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

We'll see what their intentions were based on their communications,

No we won't, because they won't be able to get a warrant for that.

 

[DonGlock26]

No, he didn't. Quote what he said in the video. Nothing was illegal or encouraged people to disobey lawful orders.

How is he going to turn on them? He is being investigated by the military for invoking his rank is all they will likely get him on. That's a letter of reprimand at best.

Why should have access to private emails or text messages unless you have a crime? Warrants require the crime be specified and what you are looking for!

You admitted that their intent was "evil". So what do you think they were trying to do?

 

[DonGlock26]

No we won't, because they won't be able to get a warrant for that.

We'll see.

 

[Zincwarrior]

You say that like there isn't any.

Name ******* one **** nut. They said obey legal orders. You ******* NAGA covksuckers can't even separate legal from illegal any more. ******* shit head mouthbreathers. Justice will **** you hard in the next term.

 

[cnm]

What was the point, if not to encourage low-ranking service members to disobey orders?

To encourage members of US offence forces to obey lawful orders.

Probably because everyone can see Chump legally compromising junior military ranks.

Just how ******* dumb are MAGAts?





That was rhetorical.

 

[DonGlock26]

There you go! Insane, but we will work with it. Also not supported even in the slightest by the video, so you left out an entire series events thay don't exist anywhere outside of your mind.

And how do you think they will find such evidence? They can't get a warrant based on "This is my MAGAt Christmas list!"

So, how?

They can use grand jury subpoenas and search warrants.

 

[Seymour Flops]

No, he didn't. Quote what he said in the video.

“I was a captain in the United States Navy,” Kelly says before the others reel off their experience.

Here is the text of the rest of the video, which the speakers take turns delivering, sometimes switching off in midsentence. (Note: some repeated phrases have been removed for clarity):

We want to speak directly to members of the military and the intelligence community who take risks each day to keep Americans safe.

We know you are under enormous stress and pressure right now. Americans trust their military, but that trust is at risk.

This administration is pitting our uniformed military and intelligence community professionals against American citizens.

Like us, you all swore an oath to protect and defend this Constitution. Right now, the threats to our Constitution aren’t just coming from abroad, but from right here at home.

Our laws are clear. You can refuse illegal orders. You must refuse illegal orders. No one has to carry out orders that violate the law or our Constitution.

We know this is hard and that it’s a difficult time to be a public servant. But whether you’re serving in the CIA, the Army, our Navy, the Air Force, your vigilance is critical — and know that we have your back.

Nothing was illegal or encouraged people to disobey lawful orders.

The above tells service members that they "must" refuse illegal orders.

The investigation is to determine whether the Democrats also gave clear guidelines as to what is and is not illegal, or whether they left it to privates, airmen, and seamen, to guess, thus putting them in legal jeopardy with their advice.

Shouldn't legal advice come from lawyers, not politicians?

How is he going to turn on them? He is being investigated by the military for invoking his rank is all they will likely get him on. That's a letter of reprimand at best.

At least you admit he did wrong.

To get that letter of reprimand, instead of "death or such penalty as the court martial may direct," he will likely be asked to turn over emails between himself and his co-conspirators.

Which may well show that they are all perfectly innocent. Again - this is only he beginning of an investigation, no one has fired up the gas chamber.

Why should have access to private emails or text messages unless you have a crime? Warrants require the crime be specified and what you are looking for!

Kelly can turn over the emails as part of the plea bargain.

If they were on Senate/Congressional email, they were not private, they were public records subject to FOIA. If they were about Senate/Congressional business, but done on non official email servers to dodge FOIA, they are still subject to FOIA and the NRA if they are destroyed.

Why would you not want them turned over? You seem to think they have something to hide. What is it?

 

[Zincwarrior]

We'll see what their intentions were based on their communications, unless they have already destroyed the evidence.

Won't happen. There are standards of evidence for search warrants.

'we have probable cause that they said FOLLOW THE LAW.' YEA.

 

[Seymour Flops]

To encourage members of US offence forces to obey lawful orders.

Probably because everyone can see Chump legally compromising junior military ranks.

Just how ******* dumb are MAGAts?





That was rhetorical.

How does a private determine whether orders are lawful?

Take an order to be deployed int a city beset by riots, as an example.

How will Private Joe Snuffy make that determination? Based on advice form Mark Kelly?